Re: They should have done this one first

[John Francis]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:03:03AM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
> On 2011-06-29 23:46, John Francis wrote:
> > 
> 
> The one I'm looking at is very similar.  Black on black, black
> interior, dual spoke wheels, JCW package.
> 
> >I almost bought one (soft-top) to go alongside my wife's Mini Cooper;
> >it was a close decision between a fully-tricked-out JCW Mini and the Z4.
> 
> I faced the same dilemma (Z3/4 versus Mini).  For me, the decider
> was that the Mini has a back seat, which means I can put taller
> cargo in it.

That wasn't a factor for me - we've still got the Mini
(which we refer to as the high-capacity load-hauler).

If my wife ever manages to find gainful employment
again we're planning on upgrading to a Countryman.


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Re: They should have done this one first

[Ecke PDML]

2011/6/30 John Coyle :
>
> I also take an SV for a walk now and then, just for old time's sake - and it 
> still works
> perfectly too...

A Stig Vidar? I've seen one of those. It takes really good pictures =)

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RE: They should have done this one first

[John Coyle]

The phrase "cold, dead hands" comes to mind with the MZ-S!  I've gone back to 
shooting
family stuff with it, as my wife likes to get prints rather than look at photos 
on screen
- and I tend to be slack at printing digital off, never mind the inevitable
post-processing.
It is one of the best cameras Pentax produced, in my admittedly limited 
experience of
handling those from the 80's. Mine's had a CLA here in Oz, and is as good as 
new, and I
have no idea how many frames I've shot with it.
I also take an SV for a walk now and then, just for old time's sake - and it 
still works
perfectly too...

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 09:47:42PM +, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> MZ-S came in today.  I can see why people love it.

I can't bring myself to part with mine, even though I consider it extremely 
unlikely I'll
ever put another roll of film through it.
I've still got a PZ-1p (and a couple of MXs) if I feel the urge to shoot film 
(and some
Royal Gold 25 in a box in the freezer).


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Re: They should have done this one first

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-06-29 23:46, John Francis wrote:

 


The one I'm looking at is very similar.  Black on black, black interior, 
dual spoke wheels, JCW package.



I almost bought one (soft-top) to go alongside my wife's Mini Cooper;
it was a close decision between a fully-tricked-out JCW Mini and the Z4.


I faced the same dilemma (Z3/4 versus Mini).  For me, the decider was 
that the Mini has a back seat, which means I can put taller cargo in it, 
which I occasionally have to do.  What I really wanted was a G35 Sport 
Coupe or a 325/328/330, but the used car market is definitely moving 
north in this area.  I could get them for my price six weeks ago, but 
not today.


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Re: They should have done this one first

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:05:26PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
> 
> Oh, on a mostly sort of unrelated topic, I'm going to see and drive,
> and hopefully buy, a used Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works edition
> tomorrow, for those of you that care about cars.

Those are fun little machines.  My mother's next door neighbour had one.



I almost bought one (soft-top) to go alongside my wife's Mini Cooper;
it was a close decision between a fully-tricked-out JCW Mini and the Z4.
The price would have ended up about the same.  The (used) Z4 won out,
in the end, because the SMG meant that my wife could drive it without
putting too much strain on her knee - she has severe arthritis.



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Re: They should have done this one first

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-06-29 21:00, John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 09:47:42PM +, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

MZ-S came in today.  I can see why people love it.


I can't bring myself to part with mine, even though I consider it
extremely unlikely I'll ever put another roll of film through it.
I've still got a PZ-1p (and a couple of MXs) if I feel the urge
to shoot film (and some Royal Gold 25 in a box in the freezer).


In some ways, I'd like to keep mine just as a testament to mechanical 
art (the same reason I own some obsolete firearms ... they're just 
simply beautiful in their workmanship).  The MZ-S were truly beautiful 
machines.  On the other hand, they fetch very attractive prices on the 
open market, I'm told.  If I could trade it for a grand or so, I might 
find I could get over the loss.  With the battery grip attached, and the 
FA* 200/2.8 or F* 300/4.5 in position, it's like an extension of both my 
arm and my vision.  It's all very visceral, to me at least.


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Re: They should have done this one first

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-06-29 18:11, Darren Addy wrote:

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Doug Franklin
  wrote:

Yep, [the MZ-S is] one of the finest feeling pieces of gear I've ever owned. 
And it
held up pretty well while I was shooting film.  Had to send it in once, but
that was because I dribbled half a bucket load of fudge and ice cream on it
while not paying enough attention. ;-)


What day of the week did that happen? Sundae???


I wish ... it was "Petit Saturday"  ... I didn't even have a banana 
handy ... the day the Petit le Mans runs ... can't remember the year, 
now that I try ... must've been before '05 because I got the *ist D then 
(I think) and the film cameras haven't gotten any use since then.


Oh, on a mostly sort of unrelated topic, I'm going to see and drive, and 
hopefully buy, a used Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works edition tomorrow, 
for those of you that care about cars.


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Re: They should have done this one first

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 09:47:42PM +, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> MZ-S came in today.  I can see why people love it.

I can't bring myself to part with mine, even though I consider it
extremely unlikely I'll ever put another roll of film through it.
I've still got a PZ-1p (and a couple of MXs) if I feel the urge
to shoot film (and some Royal Gold 25 in a box in the freezer).


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Re: They should have done this one first

[Steven Desjardins]

Still my favorite camera body.  It was awesome with the grip.  If that
Phillips sensor had worked, they would have built the MZ-D as a single
piece body just like the MZ-S with the grip.  Full frame, 6MP,
beautiful camera, and far too expensive to buy.  The stuff that dreams
are made of.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Doug Franklin
>>  wrote:
>>> Yep, that's one of the finest feeling pieces of gear I've ever owned. And it
>>> held up pretty well while I was shooting film.  Had to send it in once, but
>>> that was because I dribbled half a bucket load of fudge and ice cream on it
>>> while not paying enough attention. ;-)
>>
>> What day of the week did that happen? Sundae???
>
> Hmm. On a sloe gin fizz day, perhaps ... ?
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Re: They should have done this one first

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Doug Franklin
>  wrote:
>> Yep, that's one of the finest feeling pieces of gear I've ever owned. And it
>> held up pretty well while I was shooting film.  Had to send it in once, but
>> that was because I dribbled half a bucket load of fudge and ice cream on it
>> while not paying enough attention. ;-)
>
> What day of the week did that happen? Sundae???

Hmm. On a sloe gin fizz day, perhaps ... ?
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Re: They should have done this one first

[Darren Addy]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Doug Franklin
 wrote:
> Yep, that's one of the finest feeling pieces of gear I've ever owned. And it
> held up pretty well while I was shooting film.  Had to send it in once, but
> that was because I dribbled half a bucket load of fudge and ice cream on it
> while not paying enough attention. ;-)

What day of the week did that happen? Sundae???

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: They should have done this one first

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-06-29 17:47, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:


If I still shot 135 film I might be tempted to keep [the MZ-S] ... what a gem.


Yep, that's one of the finest feeling pieces of gear I've ever owned. 
And it held up pretty well while I was shooting film.  Had to send it in 
once, but that was because I dribbled half a bucket load of fudge and 
ice cream on it while not paying enough attention. ;-)


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They should have done this one first

[Collin Brendemuehl]

MZ-S came in today.  I can see why people love it.
Reminds me of my Vertex VX-150 HT with that slanted control set.
The grip feels better (to my hand) than the
K-x, *istDS, or K100D that I've owned.  
At least that's my first impression.

If I still shot 135 film I might be tempted to keep it ... what a gem.


Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
http://kerygmainstitute.org 

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" 
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