Re: Tokina lenses and Pentax?
From: Igor Roshchin Rick, I was unaware of their collaboration in 90's but knew about that in 00's. But now I see new Tokina lenses that are distinct from any Pentax lenses. Yet, none of them are available with Pentax mount. Hence my question: why? Igor Just a SWAG, but perhaps a corporate decision that there's not enough profit there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tokina lenses and Pentax?
This is a mystery to me, as well. The most aggregious example that I am aware of is the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 AT-X Pro 116. This lens was co-designed with Pentax and so Tokina doesn't make it in a Pentax mount (presumably so a Pentax branded edition could be produced) yet none is ever produced by Pentax. One might assume that this would be because it would hurt sales of the DA 12-24mm f4. But then why co-design it in the first place? To keep Tokina from offering it in a Pentax mount, to the detriment of Pentax owners - is the only answer I can come up with. I would imagine that any agreements with Hoya would have transferred to Ricoh, since they would have been made with the Pentax division itself, not the parent corp. There has been some talk of Ricoh and Tokina being competitors in more business arenas than Tokina and Pentax were. If true, that might put a damper on any such cooperation going forward. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tokina lenses and Pentax?
Igor, Pentax and Tokina collaborated on a number of lenses in the '90s and '00s, as I recall. Part of the deal was that they would only be available for Pentax with a Pentax badge on them. The similarities in focal lengths, sizes, formulae, and features aren't a coincidence. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Tokina lenses and Pentax? Does anybody know what happened with Tokina lenses for Pentax? I very much like my Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8. This was my first lens for Pentax cameras that I bought with Zx5n. When Hoya bought Pentax, Tokina stopped producing any lenses in Pentax mount, and as far as I understood, started producing some of the Pentax lens designs in other mounts (10-17 fisheye, 12-24, 100/2.8 Macro. Now, that the relation through marriage has broken apart, and Tokina again makes lenses on its own, - will they start producing any lenses in Pentax mount? (like the new 16-28/2.8, 11-16/2.8) Or are they still under some contractual obligation that forbids that? http://www.thkphoto.com/tokina/ Does anybody know? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tokina lenses and Pentax?
Rick, I was unaware of their collaboration in 90's but knew about that in 00's. But now I see new Tokina lenses that are distinct from any Pentax lenses. Yet, none of them are available with Pentax mount. Hence my question: why? Igor Sun Jan 29 22:07:21 EST 2012 Rick Womer wrote: Igor, Pentax and Tokina collaborated on a number of lenses in the '90s and '00s, as I recall. Part of the deal was that they would only be available for Pentax with a Pentax badge on them. The similarities in focal lengths, sizes, formulae, and features aren't a coincidence. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org To: PDML at pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Tokina lenses and Pentax? Does anybody know what happened with Tokina lenses for Pentax? I very much like my Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8. This was my first lens for Pentax cameras that I bought with Zx5n. When Hoya bought Pentax, Tokina stopped producing any lenses in Pentax mount, and as far as I understood, started producing some of the Pentax lens designs in other mounts (10-17 fisheye, 12-24, 100/2.8 Macro. Now, that the relation through marriage has broken apart, and Tokina again makes lenses on its own, - will they start producing any lenses in Pentax mount? (like the new 16-28/2.8, 11-16/2.8) Or are they still under some contractual obligation that forbids that? http://www.thkphoto.com/tokina/ Does anybody know? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tokina lenses and Pentax?
Does anybody know what happened with Tokina lenses for Pentax? I very much like my Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8. This was my first lens for Pentax cameras that I bought with Zx5n. When Hoya bought Pentax, Tokina stopped producing any lenses in Pentax mount, and as far as I understood, started producing some of the Pentax lens designs in other mounts (10-17 fisheye, 12-24, 100/2.8 Macro. Now, that the relation through marriage has broken apart, and Tokina again makes lenses on its own, - will they start producing any lenses in Pentax mount? (like the new 16-28/2.8, 11-16/2.8) Or are they still under some contractual obligation that forbids that? http://www.thkphoto.com/tokina/ Does anybody know? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Tokina lenses and Pentax?
From: Igor Roshchin Does anybody know what happened with Tokina lenses for Pentax? I very much like my Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8. This was my first lens for Pentax cameras that I bought with Zx5n. When Hoya bought Pentax, Tokina stopped producing any lenses in Pentax mount, and as far as I understood, started producing some of the Pentax lens designs in other mounts (10-17 fisheye, 12-24, 100/2.8 Macro. Now, that the relation through marriage has broken apart, and Tokina again makes lenses on its own, - will they start producing any lenses in Pentax mount? (like the new 16-28/2.8, 11-16/2.8) Or are they still under some contractual obligation that forbids that? http://www.thkphoto.com/tokina/ Does anybody know? Igor I know that back when Hoya bought Pentax, I was told in no uncertain terms here on the list that there was no relationship between Hoya Tokina. THK was merely the U.S. distributor who handled Hoya filters Tokina lenses; that there were only a few specific lenses that were jointly designed by Pentax Tokina where Pentax manufactured the K-mount and Tokina manufactured the lens for Nikon Canon and that Tokina was free to offer their own independent designs in K-mount if they chose to do so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
