Re: Zeiss and Pentax coatings, lenses (similarities, differences)

2002-04-23 Thread b_rubenstein

If you over generalize, then yes, IF = floating element. 
In the case of Nikon, they refer to a floating element 
design, for wide angles, as Close-Range Correction 
(CRC). It's intended to improve performance of the lens 
when focused close. Aside from the single CRC element 
the lens focuses like a regular one. The IF lenses move 
groups of elements (and the group changes from one lens 
design to another) for basic focus.

From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Actually, though, it is not clear in my mind, but 
wouldn't IF
lenses be, in effect, lenses that have floating elements 
(inasmuch
as one or more elements move relative to the other 
elements when
focusing)?  Or, to put it another way, couldn't the term 
be applied
to any lens that moves elements (or groups of elements)
differentially, compared to other elements (or groups)?

Fred
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Re: Zeiss and Pentax coatings, lenses (similarities, differences)

2002-04-23 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

F> Actually, though, it is not clear in my mind, but wouldn't IF
F> lenses be, in effect, lenses that have floating elements (inasmuch
F> as one or more elements move relative to the other elements when
F> focusing)?  Or, to put it another way, couldn't the term be applied
F> to any lens that moves elements (or groups of elements)
F> differentially, compared to other elements (or groups)?

F> Fred

Yep, I think that IF qualifies. And they also use FREE - fixed rear
element and similar designs AFAIK.

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: Zeiss and Pentax coatings, lenses (similarities, differences)

2002-04-23 Thread Fred

> I could be mistaken, but as I can see, Pentax do not seem to use
> floating element design like the other manufacturers. I know Nikon
> use it. Any idea?

I think that one of the Pentax lenses that may supposedly have
involved some Zeiss/Pentax collaboration is the the K 28/2, which
uses a floating element.

Actually, though, it is not clear in my mind, but wouldn't IF
lenses be, in effect, lenses that have floating elements (inasmuch
as one or more elements move relative to the other elements when
focusing)?  Or, to put it another way, couldn't the term be applied
to any lens that moves elements (or groups of elements)
differentially, compared to other elements (or groups)?

Fred
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Re: Zeiss and Pentax coatings, lenses (similarities, differences)

2002-04-23 Thread Alan Chan

>Interestingly, the article also mentions the 18mm lens
>as to result from  the joint development of Pentax and
>Zeiss. I have never found a confirmation information
>about that anywhere. However, I have a diagram of the
>Contax Distagon 18/4. This shows that it's design is
>exactly identical to that of the SMCP-K 18mm/3.5. The
>only difference is that the Zeiss as floating elements
>while the Pentax has not.

I could be mistaken, but as I can see, Pentax do not seem to use floating 
element design like the other manufacturers. I know Nikon use it. Any idea?

regards,
Alan Chan


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Zeiss and Pentax coatings, lenses (similarities, differences)

2002-04-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Check out 

http://www.cdegroot.com/archives/yashicacontax-slr/199905/msg00087.html 

for a summary of the collaboration between Pentax and Zeiss by someone paraphrasing a 
book by an Asahi historian. It provides some details about how the coatings and two or 
three lenses began as joint developments but went their separate ways 

The writer summarizes the optical differences between the two companies' 15/3.5 and 
28/2 lenses.

No word about OCLI here; Pentax and Zeiss are credited with developing the SMC and T* 
multicoatings.

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