Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Keith, here's what I'm thinking.  It's probably best that your
current/last/present wife never know about the irreplaceable one.  I think
you'd want to ensure that.  You should send me some insurance, just to make sure
she doesn't find out, if you know what I mean.  You must have some nice lenses
or bodies for that purpose.  I could use a nice tripod, too.

Problem is the ~whole freaking list knows now~ so you'll have a lot of insurance
premiums to pay, if you want us all to shut up!  vbg

Seriously, I've got an irreplaceable one, too (don't we all?).  A middle aged
guy's dream.  I was 43, she was 27, and stunningly beautiful.  And, smart, too
(she was an architect).  Still can't figure out what she saw in me, but it was
fun while it lasted.  It had no future - in fact we both knew that when it
started, but man, what a roller coaster ride for 6 months!  vbg

cheers,
frank

Keith Whaley wrote:

 I'll go along with part of that...but...
 I once had a girlfriend that could not, and will never be, replaced.
 Some women are like that, I guess.
 My present/current/last wife will never know that, but what is, simply is...
 That I'm much happier (overall) with my present wife is almost totally
 beside the point.
 And fortunately, I'll never have to explain that.  To anyone.  rbg

 keith


--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread frank theriault
I share your grief!  In fact, as you said, it isn't a contest, but it
sounds like your last week or so is worse than mine.  I only have one
bike frame to replace.  And, well, let's not talk about the girlfriend,
but, whatever.

But a whole bag full of stuff?  OUCH!

You win.  vbg

regards,
frank

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bad weekend here -- last weekend.  Bad enough that I've spent
 the whole week in denial, not wanting to say it, hoping that
 I've imagined the whole thing and miraculously all will be
 right again when I next open my eyes.

 Migraine on Sunday with the worst pain I've ever experienced
 (I was actually wondering if I had a means of suicide at hand
 that would take less time than waiting for the medicine to
 take effect -- it was that bad) wasn't enough:

 My camera bag got stolen.

 Doesn't compare to some things that can go wrong -- and I
 don't want to accidentally get into the whose pain is
 worse game -- but it's got me pretty low.

 A bunch of tools I had come to count on.  A bunch of nifty
 things I'd gotten attached to.  At least one borrowed item
 and at least one gift -- and I haven't wanted to deal with
 telling the folks those came from.  (There's a shame
 factor involved -- gee, I couldn't even manage to hang on
 to what I was given... probably not reasonable for me to
 think that way, but since when do emotions reliably conform
 to reason?)  A whole mess of gear I was lucky to have gotten
 ahold of in the first place and can't afford to replace.

 I'm not sure yet whether my homeowner's insurance covers it
 or not.  (Technically renter's insurance.)  It was taken
 out of the trunk of my car.

 Fortunately it didn't have all four K-mount bodies in it --
 two were in a separate, smaller bag.  Nor any of the screwmount
 gear (except the screw-to-K adaptor).  Unfortunately, well
 I already wrote the bad-news part.

 I've been compiling a list, with serial numbers, and plan
 on making the rounds of nearby pawn shops.  The police are
 supposed to distribute a list to pawn shops and check up on
 them, but I don't think they actually bother.

 So between one thing and another, I haven't been feeling
 extra talkative lately.

 Anyhow, that's the news.  Probably talk more when I start
 getting over this latest setback.  Right now, I'm thinking
 that maybe I should never take my cameras out of the house,
 lest someone steal the rest of them.  But they won't do me
 a Hell of a lot of good if I keep them in a vault and never
 use them, will they?

 -- Glenn

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread Caveman
frank theriault wrote:

Still can't figure out what she saw in me, but it was
fun while it lasted.
Must have been the bunny ears ;-)

cheers,
caveman


Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread Keith Whaley
That's almost word for word a decent description of the irreplaceable
memory I carry around with me... It lasted over 3 years (and about
$40,000) I figure... smile

Back then, I had some money to spare. Today I have quite considerably
less, but in truth, money can't buy memories like that.

Oh, and BTW, I was single all the time I was squiring this young lady
all over town, spending money like the mad fool I was...   Ahhh, yes...  

keith

frank theriault wrote:
 
 Hey, Keith, here's what I'm thinking.  It's probably best that your
 current/last/present wife never know about the irreplaceable one.  I think
 you'd want to ensure that.  You should send me some insurance, just to make sure
 she doesn't find out, if you know what I mean.  You must have some nice lenses
 or bodies for that purpose.  I could use a nice tripod, too.
 
 Problem is the ~whole freaking list knows now~ so you'll have a lot of insurance
 premiums to pay, if you want us all to shut up!  vbg
 
 Seriously, I've got an irreplaceable one, too (don't we all?).  A middle aged
 guy's dream.  I was 43, she was 27, and stunningly beautiful.  And, smart, too
 (she was an architect).  Still can't figure out what she saw in me, but it was
 fun while it lasted.  It had no future - in fact we both knew that when it
 started, but man, what a roller coaster ride for 6 months!  vbg
 
 cheers,
 frank

...rest snipped and computer purged!  bg



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread Caveman
Keith Whaley wrote:
That's almost word for word a decent description of the irreplaceable
memory I carry around with me... It lasted over 3 years (and about
$40,000) I figure... smile


Some men never listen,
Others never learn,
But why this man did as he did
Only he will ever know.
He knew he was walking
Into a waiting trap,
Neatly set up for him
With a bait so richly wrapped.
So he went inside there to take on what he found,
But he never escaped them, for who can escape what he desires?
Genesis, The Lady Lies



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread Keith Whaley
Big grin...
I never said I was all that wise.
But, it is all perspective, isn't it... I was out for experiencing what
I considered the fine life. 
I was lucky enough to have her to accompany me. A perfect companion for
a short time.

Nevertheless, a very good call, Caveman... good pickup.
I'll have to break out that old Genesis disc, if I can find it...  

keith

Caveman wrote:
 
 Keith Whaley wrote:
  That's almost word for word a decent description of the irreplaceable
  memory I carry around with me... It lasted over 3 years (and about
  $40,000) I figure... smile
 
 Some men never listen,
 Others never learn,
 But why this man did as he did
 Only he will ever know.
 
 He knew he was walking
 Into a waiting trap,
 Neatly set up for him
 With a bait so richly wrapped.
 
 So he went inside there to take on what he found,
 But he never escaped them, for who can escape what he desires?
 
 Genesis, The Lady Lies



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread T Rittenhouse
Sorry to hear this, Glenn. Hopefully, your renters insurance will cover the
lost.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto





Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the sympathy, folks.  (One thing I knew was that
folks here would understand how I'm feeling.)

Cotty wrote:
 Saddened to read of your loss. Nothing one can say except chin up old
 boy, it could have been worse. Really.

Yes, it could've been.  In a great many different ways.
And eventually I'll get to where I'm looking at it in
that sort of perspective.  Right now I'm still pretty
mopey about it.  The rational part of me knows that 
since I'm not dead, I'll get past this, and hey, it's
only _stuff_.  The emotional part hasn't quite caught
up yet.

 Besides, once you get past the shit (which you will), and pop out the
 other side (which you will), you'll have the best excuse ever for us
 giving you more than a little enabling ;-)

:-)  Yeah ... if my insurance covers any of it -- otherwise
I don't have any money to spend on replacing or upgrading
the lost gear.  :-(

 Have a drink from me.

As soon as I stop having these migraines, there's a bottle
of Mackesson Triple Stout and a bottle of Yuengling Porter
in my fridge.  

Frank Theriault wrote:
 I share your grief!  In fact, as you said, it isn't a contest, but it
 sounds like your last week or so is worse than mine.  I only have one
 bike frame to replace.  And, well, let's not talk about the girlfriend,
 but, whatever.

I've had breakups that felt worse than this, so I wasn't about
to directly compare who had the worst week.  (In fact, I share
experiences others have described about irreplacable lovers.
*sigh*  If I hadn't been so scared of moving to a country where
I didn't speak the language yet, around 1986, I'd be in Austria
now, and probably married.)

 But a whole bag full of stuff?  OUCH!

Yah.  Nearly full.  The KX and K2 plus a couple of lenses and
one flash were elsewhere.  (And the screwmount gear and some
of the longest lenses live in other bags.)

Gonna go try to distract myself with other things for a while.
Like the Mac a friend gave me (the weekend wasn't _all_ bad;
it just had this overwhelmingly bad chunk in the middle).

-- Glenn



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread jcoyle
Glenn, sorry to hear about your loss, and I really hope that you either get
an insurance payout or that you are able to recover them.

It's no consolation, but I have had camera gear stolen from both my car and
my home, so you really can't leave it anywhere!


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes


 Bad weekend here -- last weekend.  Bad enough that I've spent
 the whole week in denial, not wanting to say it, hoping that
 I've imagined the whole thing and miraculously all will be
 right again when I next open my eyes.

 Migraine on Sunday with the worst pain I've ever experienced
 (I was actually wondering if I had a means of suicide at hand
 that would take less time than waiting for the medicine to
 take effect -- it was that bad) wasn't enough:

 My camera bag got stolen.

 Doesn't compare to some things that can go wrong -- and I
 don't want to accidentally get into the whose pain is
 worse game -- but it's got me pretty low.

 A bunch of tools I had come to count on.  A bunch of nifty
 things I'd gotten attached to.  At least one borrowed item
 and at least one gift -- and I haven't wanted to deal with
 telling the folks those came from.  (There's a shame
 factor involved -- gee, I couldn't even manage to hang on
 to what I was given... probably not reasonable for me to
 think that way, but since when do emotions reliably conform
 to reason?)  A whole mess of gear I was lucky to have gotten
 ahold of in the first place and can't afford to replace.

 I'm not sure yet whether my homeowner's insurance covers it
 or not.  (Technically renter's insurance.)  It was taken
 out of the trunk of my car.

 Fortunately it didn't have all four K-mount bodies in it --
 two were in a separate, smaller bag.  Nor any of the screwmount
 gear (except the screw-to-K adaptor).  Unfortunately, well
 I already wrote the bad-news part.

 I've been compiling a list, with serial numbers, and plan
 on making the rounds of nearby pawn shops.  The police are
 supposed to distribute a list to pawn shops and check up on
 them, but I don't think they actually bother.

 So between one thing and another, I haven't been feeling
 extra talkative lately.

 Anyhow, that's the news.  Probably talk more when I start
 getting over this latest setback.  Right now, I'm thinking
 that maybe I should never take my cameras out of the house,
 lest someone steal the rest of them.  But they won't do me
 a Hell of a lot of good if I keep them in a vault and never
 use them, will they?

 -- Glenn





Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread ernreed2
Sorry to hear it, Glenn.



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-06-01 Thread Peter Alling
Well I'm having a bad week too, but nothing compared to yours or
Franks for that matter.  Hope things get better, (and they catch the
scum that  desecrated your life, though that seems unlikely).
At 12:46 AM 5/31/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Bad weekend here -- last weekend.  Bad enough that I've spent
the whole week in denial, not wanting to say it, hoping that
I've imagined the whole thing and miraculously all will be
right again when I next open my eyes.
Migraine on Sunday with the worst pain I've ever experienced
(I was actually wondering if I had a means of suicide at hand
that would take less time than waiting for the medicine to
take effect -- it was that bad) wasn't enough:
My camera bag got stolen.

Doesn't compare to some things that can go wrong -- and I
don't want to accidentally get into the whose pain is
worse game -- but it's got me pretty low.
A bunch of tools I had come to count on.  A bunch of nifty
things I'd gotten attached to.  At least one borrowed item
and at least one gift -- and I haven't wanted to deal with
telling the folks those came from.  (There's a shame
factor involved -- gee, I couldn't even manage to hang on
to what I was given... probably not reasonable for me to
think that way, but since when do emotions reliably conform
to reason?)  A whole mess of gear I was lucky to have gotten
ahold of in the first place and can't afford to replace.
I'm not sure yet whether my homeowner's insurance covers it
or not.  (Technically renter's insurance.)  It was taken
out of the trunk of my car.
Fortunately it didn't have all four K-mount bodies in it --
two were in a separate, smaller bag.  Nor any of the screwmount
gear (except the screw-to-K adaptor).  Unfortunately, well
I already wrote the bad-news part.
I've been compiling a list, with serial numbers, and plan
on making the rounds of nearby pawn shops.  The police are
supposed to distribute a list to pawn shops and check up on
them, but I don't think they actually bother.
So between one thing and another, I haven't been feeling
extra talkative lately.
Anyhow, that's the news.  Probably talk more when I start
getting over this latest setback.  Right now, I'm thinking
that maybe I should never take my cameras out of the house,
lest someone steal the rest of them.  But they won't do me
a Hell of a lot of good if I keep them in a vault and never
use them, will they?
-- Glenn
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx


Re: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Harold Owen
 Harry
 Why not buy three lotttery tickets?
 Clive
 Antibes
 France

Good idea that Clive, I like a flutter!

Have just selected the numbers using a combination taken from the serial
numbers of the latest Pentax lenses I received today.

If I win anything I'll eat my hat!! g

Harry
-- 
Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread frank theriault
I can always count on the Caveman to cheer me up!!

-frank (singing soprano for a day or two)

Caveman wrote:

 frank theriault wrote:
  Do bad things come in threes too?
 
  Got dumped last weekend.

 This ain't necessarily a bad thing ;-)

  Today my beloved Cyclops track bike snapped a
  seat tube (it rusted out from the inside out, and just snapped).
  Luckily, the rest of the frame held, and nothing catastrphic happened to
  me (ie:  I didn't fall).

 But where did the tube end up ? ;-)

  Hot damn!  What's the third thing going to be?

 Always the worst: you'll notice your favourite lens has started to
 develop fungus ;-)

 cheers,
 caveman

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Brendan
Oh come on Frakie, it's not that bad. There is always
worse out there, cheer up and be glad you don't look
like me :D

 --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  I can always count on the Caveman to cheer me
up!!
 
 -frank (singing soprano for a day or two)
 
 Caveman wrote:
 
  frank theriault wrote:
   Do bad things come in threes too?
  
   Got dumped last weekend.
 
  This ain't necessarily a bad thing ;-)
 
   Today my beloved Cyclops track bike snapped a
   seat tube (it rusted out from the inside out,
 and just snapped).
   Luckily, the rest of the frame held, and nothing
 catastrphic happened to
   me (ie:  I didn't fall).
 
  But where did the tube end up ? ;-)
 
   Hot damn!  What's the third thing going to be?
 
  Always the worst: you'll notice your favourite
 lens has started to
  develop fungus ;-)
 
  cheers,
  caveman
 
 --
 The optimist thinks this is the best of all
 possible worlds. The pessimist
 fears it is true. -J. Robert
 Oppenheimer
 
  

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Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Caveman
Brendan wrote:
Oh come on Frakie, it's not that bad. There is always
worse out there, cheer up and be glad you don't look
like me :D
The always modest Brendan... Say, you got some flak on usefilm lately, 
didn't you ? ;-) You asked for it ;-)

cheers,
caveman


Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Brendan
Yup I asked for that flak and it helps, see I don't
mind being beaten up by a photographer ( you should
see how BRUTAL Aaron is on my work ) but I detest it
when it's a model who says it's better to stick her
A$$ in the air and spread you know where to get a good
shot ( and I quickly run away when they do that ).

 --- Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Brendan
wrote:
  Oh come on Frakie, it's not that bad. There is
 always
  worse out there, cheer up and be glad you don't
 look
  like me :D
 
 The always modest Brendan... Say, you got some flak
 on usefilm lately, 
 didn't you ? ;-) You asked for it ;-)
 
 cheers,
 caveman
  

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Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread T Rittenhouse
Life is tough. Only thing is, the alternative is SOo boring, and you
don't get to change your mind.

Girlfriends can be replaced. Bicycles can be replaced. Cameras can be
replaced. Jobs can be replaced...

Listen to me! I mean someone has to, I never do grin.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes


 I can always count on the Caveman to cheer me up!!

 -frank (singing soprano for a day or two)





Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Keith Whaley


Brendan wrote:
 
 Yup I asked for that flak and it helps, see I don't
 mind being beaten up by a photographer ( you should
 see how BRUTAL Aaron is on my work ) but I detest it
 when it's a model who says it's better to stick her
 A$$ in the air and spread you know where to get a good
 shot ( and I quickly run away when they do that ).

  [...raised eyebrows...]   You DO, Frakie?

keith
 
  --- Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Brendan wrote:

   Oh come on Frakie, it's not that bad. There is always
   worse out there, cheer up and be glad you don't look
   like me :D

  The always modest Brendan... Say, you got some flak
  on usefilm lately, didn't you ? ;-) You asked for it ;-)
 
  cheers,
  caveman



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Caveman
Brendan wrote:

... but I detest it
when it's a model who says it's better to stick her
A$$ in the air and spread you know where to get a good
shot
Well, it largely depends on the audience to tell what a good shot is or 
not. A porn website editor or user would qualify your usefilm shots as 
pure useless crap. So don't dismiss that model's advice, she might know 
better than you what the audience wants ;-) BTW, I noticed that one of 
the most active groups there is into sharing more or less nude 
selfshots. Some girl posts a soft, barely recognisable self portrait, 
with a ton of photoshop added mascara and the whole group is in awe and 
posts 30-40 comments stating how exceptional that shot is. Then someone 
else from the group posts a shot of his left leg, with a photoshop bone 
layered on it, and the whole process restarts. etc. etc. etc.

cheers,
caveman


Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Brendan
Subject: Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes


 Yup I asked for that flak and it helps, see I don't
 mind being beaten up by a photographer ( you should
 see how BRUTAL Aaron is on my work ) but I detest it
 when it's a model who says it's better to stick her
 A$$ in the air and spread you know where to get a good
 shot ( and I quickly run away when they do that ).

You what??
Ah well, you are still young. By the time you have it figured out, it
will be too late.

William Robb



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Keith Whaley

T Rittenhouse wrote:
 
 Life is tough. Only thing is, the alternative is SOo boring, and you
 don't get to change your mind.
 
 Girlfriends can be replaced. Bicycles can be replaced. Cameras can be
 replaced. Jobs can be replaced...

I'll go along with part of that...but...
I once had a girlfriend that could not, and will never be, replaced.
Some women are like that, I guess.
My present/current/last wife will never know that, but what is, simply is...
That I'm much happier (overall) with my present wife is almost totally
beside the point.
And fortunately, I'll never have to explain that.  To anyone.  rbg

keith

 Listen to me! I mean someone has to, I never do grin.
 
 Ciao,
 Graywolf



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Brendan
Ok now I'm confused.

 --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 - Original Message -
 From: Brendan
 Subject: Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things
 come in threes
 
 
  Yup I asked for that flak and it helps, see I
 don't
  mind being beaten up by a photographer ( you
 should
  see how BRUTAL Aaron is on my work ) but I detest
 it
  when it's a model who says it's better to stick
 her
  A$$ in the air and spread you know where to get a
 good
  shot ( and I quickly run away when they do that ).
 
 You what??
 Ah well, you are still young. By the time you have
 it figured out, it
 will be too late.
 
 William Robb
  

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OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread Mike Ignatiev
I wish I were that lucky...

Mishka

 Do bad things come in threes too?
 Got dumped last weekend. 



Re: OT: a very bad week!-was: good things come in threes

2003-05-31 Thread brooksdj
  
  The always modest Brendan... Say, you got some flak
  on usefilm lately, 
  didn't you ? ;-) You asked for it ;-)
  
  cheers,
  caveman

Got some from Val too Brendan,but he was nice. lol
Thanks Cave.
Dave





good things come in threes

2003-05-30 Thread Clive evans
Harry
Why not buy three lotttery tickets?
Clive
Antibes
France