Re: to PZ1-P experts. About TTL Flash

2001-04-18 Thread Arne Lie \(f\)

On question three, just be aware of, when using the exposure compensation
system (on the back of the camera), this will, as normal is, change the
cameras "knowledge" about the film ISO speed. As a result, both ambient
light and flash illumination are reduced or increased respectively. The only
way to compensate both independently, is to use the HyM mode and read the
over/underexposure bar in the viewfinder (only PZ1p, not the non-p), and use
the dedicated flash compensation menu for the flash. However, this is a very
powerful combination, one that I really enjoy on this body!

Arnie

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Subject: RE: to PZ1-P experts. About TTL Flash


 Alex,

 Question:
 1. Is the TTL flash metering region the same as the light metering? Let me
explain: if I set the exposure metering to multi-segment, will the TTL flash
use the same metering mode to decide the flash exposure or will it use only
spot, or something else?

 Answer:
 It is not the same.  It uses an OTF sensor that provides a centre-weighted
reading.  This reading is not the same as the centre-weighted reading for
normal exposure either.


 Question:
 2. If I set PF-7 to program the IF button to set the exposure to the
background, which metering mode will it use? Let me explain again: I set the
metering exposure to spot and I pop up the flash but I would like to have
the proper exposure for background. So, as I set PF-7 to do that, I press IF
button. What happens? Does it shift to multi-segment to have the proper
exposure for background or does it use the spot metering I choose for
correction without change the flash configuration or something else

 Answer:
 This is just my hypothesis and you will have to check it out...Since the
flash exposure is calculated real-time using a different sensor, it cannot
be used to determine the ambient background exposure.  Likewise, the
multi-segment (ambient) meter cannot measure background lighting if it is in
spot mode, so for things to be consistent the multi-segment meter will have
to switch into multi-segment mode to determine the background exposure when
you press the IF button.  However, check it out.


 Question:
 3. I am using fill flash. So, I set the exposure for background and I
would like to program de flash to fill a subject that is not in the centre
spot. How can I do that without change the exposure for the background
Is it possible with the camera metering only?

 Answer:
 Since the ambient and flash exposure are handled in the PZ1-p by two
completely separate systems.  In this particular case, if I were using slide
film I would set the ambient exposure compensation to -0.5 and the flash
exposure compensation to about -1 and bracket a bit on the flash
compensation.  For print film I would not bother to bracket as a little over
exposure will do not harm.

 Bill O'Neill


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Re: to PZ1-P experts. About TTL Flash

2001-04-17 Thread John Francis

"Alexandre A. P. Suaide" wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am trying to understand some features PZ1-P provides about
 TTL flash metering and I would like to ask some questions to the
 PZ-1P experts:
 
 1. Is the TTL flash metering region the same as the light metering?
 Let me explain: if I set the exposure metering to multi-segment, will
 the TTL flash use the same metering mode to decide the flash exposure
 or will it use only spot, or something else?

Flash metering is an entirely separate system, using a center-weighted
sensor measuring illumnation on the actual film.

 2. If I set PF-7 to program the IF button to set the exposure to the
 background, which metering mode will it use? Let me explain again:
 I set the metering exposure to spot and I pop up the flash but I would
 like to have the proper exposure for background. So, as I set PF-7 to do
 that, I press IF button. What happens? Does it shift to multi-segment
 to have the proper exposure for background or does it use the spot metering
 I choose for correction without change the flash configuration
 or something else

It will meter exactly as it would if you didn't have the flash up.
If you are set to spot metering, it will use spot metering.  If you
are set to multi-segment, it will use multi-segment metering. 

 3. I am using fill flash. So, I set the exposure for background and I
 would like to program de flash to fill a subject that is not in the
 center spot. How can I do that without change the exposure for the
 background Is it possible with the camera metering only?

Again, the flash metering is center-weighted.   If you know that
the item that will be illuminated by the flash is far enough off-
center that it will be reduced in significance by the flash
metering, you want to adjust the flash balance.   you can do this
by setting the flash exposure compensation (a Pentax Function).


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RE: to PZ1-P experts. About TTL Flash

2001-04-17 Thread O'Neill, William

Alex,

Question:
1. Is the TTL flash metering region the same as the light metering? Let me explain: if 
I set the exposure metering to multi-segment, will the TTL flash use the same metering 
mode to decide the flash exposure or will it use only spot, or something else?

Answer:
It is not the same.  It uses an OTF sensor that provides a centre-weighted reading.  
This reading is not the same as the centre-weighted reading for normal exposure either.


Question:
2. If I set PF-7 to program the IF button to set the exposure to the background, which 
metering mode will it use? Let me explain again: I set the metering exposure to spot 
and I pop up the flash but I would like to have the proper exposure for background. 
So, as I set PF-7 to do that, I press IF button. What happens? Does it shift to 
multi-segment to have the proper exposure for background or does it use the spot 
metering I choose for correction without change the flash configuration or 
something else

Answer:
This is just my hypothesis and you will have to check it out...Since the flash 
exposure is calculated real-time using a different sensor, it cannot be used to 
determine the ambient background exposure.  Likewise, the multi-segment (ambient) 
meter cannot measure background lighting if it is in spot mode, so for things to be 
consistent the multi-segment meter will have to switch into multi-segment mode to 
determine the background exposure when you press the IF button.  However, check it out.


Question:
3. I am using fill flash. So, I set the exposure for background and I would like to 
program de flash to fill a subject that is not in the centre spot. How can I do that 
without change the exposure for the background Is it possible with the camera 
metering only? 

Answer:
Since the ambient and flash exposure are handled in the PZ1-p by two completely 
separate systems.  In this particular case, if I were using slide film I would set the 
ambient exposure compensation to -0.5 and the flash exposure compensation to about -1 
and bracket a bit on the flash compensation.  For print film I would not bother to 
bracket as a little over exposure will do not harm.

Bill O'Neill


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