RE: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-27 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
> -Original Message-
> From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:21 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?
>
> Probably just "Pentax D".

I was just about to suggest this myself :-).

Antti-Pekka



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Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread graywolf

Your point is well taken, Cotty.

In many areas something that will bring the price of a pack of 
cigarettes is at risk. Certainly anything that will get a druggy a hit 
of his favorite substance is. In Tampa my bicycle was stolen. I had paid 
$50 for it in a pawnshop. I would guess another (or maybe the same) 
pawnshop gave the thief $10 for it and sold it to someone else for $50.


When I worked at a hospital in Ann Arbor people would walk off with the 
courtesy wheelchairs. I went into the local pawnshop once and there were 
three of them with "Property of St Joseph Hospital" clearly stenciled on 
them. Of course the owner claimed he had no idea they were stolen.


When I was a kid someone stole a shipyard welding unit from the dockside 
where my dad's boat (he was the 1st mate on a Great Lakes Freighter back 
in the early '50's) was docked. The thing was 1/2 the size of a RR 
boxcar and would have required a crane and a flatbed semi-truck to 
steal. Does make one wonder


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---


Cotty wrote:


As to value of gear, anything hung around a neck or a shoulder that has
a lens and glitters is going to be of some value, usually several
hundreds of units of any given currency. 
_








Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread graywolf
On the other hand I used to know a guy who wore a President Day-Date. He 
told everyone it was a cheap copy. Good idea as there are areas where 
they would cut off your hand to get a $10,000 watch.


I am currently wearing a Rolex Explorer II look alike. Jeweled automatic 
movement, solid stainless steel case. The bracelet is cheap junk 
(replaced it with a leather strap which is much more comfortable in the 
cold), but the watch is great. Cost $50 including sending it back to 
Hong Kong for a repair. However, I bet a real Rolex is twice the watch 
this is --for 100x the money.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---


Paul Stenquist wrote:
I showed my Rolex Daytona to a bartender in my LA hotel a few years 
back. I went to bed that night and left it on the nightstand. When I 
woke up the next day, it was gone. Too bad, It was one of the nicest, 
most authentic counterfeits I've ever seen. Paid $35 for it on New 
York's Canal Street.

Paul
On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:40 PM, Bob Shell wrote:



On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Cotty wrote:


When someone asks me what kind of camera I have, I just reply: "Three
grand", because let's face it, that's ultimately what every Joe 
wants to know.



Now that's practical.




Not sure I'd recommend that.  You could be talking to a thief, or be 
overheard by one, you know.  Better to say something like, "Oh, just 
some old thing I dragged out of the closet".


A few years ago a friend of mine was talking to the bell captain at a 
hotel where he had stopped in to look around for possible interesting 
photo locations.  They got to talking about cameras, and he showed the 
bell captain his Leica gear from inside his camera bag.  They talked a 
bit longer, and then he left and walked home.  As he unlocked the door 
of his apartment he was hit over the head with some sort of club and 
came to to find himself tied up and some guy ransacking his apartment. 
 All of his camera gear and a bunch of other stuff was taken, and it 
took him hours to get someone's attention and get free.  He recognized 
the thief as someone he'd noticed hanging out in the hotel lobby.


Not only did he lose all his camera gear and some other valuable 
things, he had problems for several years from where he was hit on the 
head.  He died, and I've never been sure the head injury wasn't a 
contributing factor.


With camera gear as expensive as it has gotten, you can't be too 
careful who you let know its value.


Bob








Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread herb greenslade
Bob Shell wrote



About 10 years ago, we had a robbery, and the bedroom was pulled apart and some 
of the objects taken were my Pentax LX and 
lenses. But the kids also took my telephone long distance card and started to 
call all the numbers (mostly drug countries) in the 
instruction leaflet. The telephone company reported them and we got everything 
back wihin 48 hours none the worse for wear. 

last year we had another robbery, but the thieves discovered my play money bank 
 - about $800 in coin. They brought in my mainb 
camera bag with most of my equipment into my computer room, but only took the 
money. Some weeks later I discovered that an 
older bag was missing probably to carry the coins in. 

I have most of my camera equipment in a LowePro  Commercial Magnum AW. I only 
take it with me on vacation or long weekend 
trips when I want to have all my equipment with me. I usually put it into an 
old rusty Coleman cooler in the trunk of the car, mostly to 
protect it from the summer heat. Hopefully it is safe there unless the thieves 
want to have a cold beer :-)

herb 





Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds


On Feb 25, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I once had the tape deck stolen out of my car while it was parked in my
garage one night. No big deal - it was a cheap tape deck and I just
replaced it, as I had been meaning to do for weeks, with the
top-of-the-line Nakamichi TD500... which had been sitting on a shelf
next to the car while the thief went to all the effort of removing the
junk unit from the dashboard.


My uncle drove a 1970s Skoda.  He would leave the windows rolled down 
and the keys in the ignition and thieves would steal the tape deck.


Eventually the frame rusted out and the car fell onto its own wheels 
while driving.


I hear new Skodas are much nicer.

-Aaron



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>They grabbed cameras, lenses, etc., seemingly at  
>random, leaving some expensive items and taking some awfully cheap  
>stuff like Zenit SLR cameras.

I once had the tape deck stolen out of my car while it was parked in my
garage one night. No big deal - it was a cheap tape deck and I just
replaced it, as I had been meaning to do for weeks, with the
top-of-the-line Nakamichi TD500... which had been sitting on a shelf
next to the car while the thief went to all the effort of removing the
junk unit from the dashboard.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Shell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


[creative camera hides snipped]


Neither of these guys has ever had anything stolen.


I wrote:


Car theft is must be a very common crime where those guys live...:-)


Duh. Spoiled joke...
That should have been UNcommon, of course.

Oh well... Just ignore the nutty norwegian...:-)

Jostein



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Shell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


[creative camera hides snipped]


Neither of these guys has ever had anything stolen.


Car theft is must be a very common crime where those guys live...:-)

Jostein



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 25, 2006, at 5:36 AM, Cotty wrote:


Interesting tale.

I normally walk around with $45,000 worth of TV gear hung over my
shoulder. I'm 6' 5"" tall and weigh 210. In 15 years I have had  
zillions
of people comment on how expensive-looking the kit is. I have never  
once

had a problem.

Of course, that is not to say that it could easily happen. There are
numerous documented cases of violent theft here in the UK. As a normal
part of my work, I risk assess continually. If I think there's any
possibility of unwanted attention, there are a host of security  
measures
I call on. Things that are incredibly simple, like parking with the  
rear

of the vehicle to the wall, so kit is not 'on display' when getting it
out / putting away. The camera weighs 26 lbs and I would not  
hesitate to

use it as a weapon in the event of an attempted robbery.

That's filming kit, and there is no such thing as 'low-profile'  
with it.

I appreciate that stills kit is a different kettle of worms ;-)  and i
certainly do take appropriate measures when out and about.



For one thing, if a thief did steal all that TV gear it would not be  
easy to sell as compared to still camera gear.  As you say, a thief  
can sell a still camera in a local pub.  Not so likely with pro video  
gear.


Thieves are usually pretty stupid people.  Years ago I worked in a  
camera shop and we were hit by thieves one night.  They came in  
through a side window on an alley.  They tried to open the cash  
register and couldn't get it open, so they threw it out the window  
into the alley, which did open it.  Of course the day's receipts were  
taken out at the end of the day and there was nothing in it but a few  
dollars in change.  They grabbed cameras, lenses, etc., seemingly at  
random, leaving some expensive items and taking some awfully cheap  
stuff like Zenit SLR cameras.Anyway, two days later the  
"mastermind" was caught trying to sell cameras out of a big burlap  
sack in the restaurant just around the corner from our shop!!  The  
restaurant owner called us and we called the cops.  We got most of  
the stuff back none the worse for wear.


About camera bags.  I have one friend who keeps his expensive gear in  
a diaper bag on the back seat of his car, complete with a couple  
diapers sticking out.  He used tea to partially stain the diapers.
He never locks the car.


Another keeps his Leica gear in a woman's sewing case.  He made a  
false top out of cardboard and glued spools of thread and other  
parephernalia to it.  That lies on top of the cameras, and the lid of  
the sewing case stays open.  Again, on the back seat of the car, car  
never locked.


Neither of these guys has ever had anything stolen.

Bob



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The camera weighs 26 lbs and I would not hesitate to
>use it as a weapon in the event of an attempted robbery.

And he's just referring to the Canon 1D-II here ;-)
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/2/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Of course, that is not to say that it could easily happen. 

...that it couldn't easily happen. 

I hate double negs !




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Steve Jolly

Adam Maas wrote:
How the heck to you pronouce *ist? Pentax is easy to say, *ist isn't (I 
normally just call it an ist, but that asterisk is a little confusing)


According to Pentax, it should be pronounced "ist".  But I reckon any 
pronunciation is fair game, given how silly it is... :-)


S



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-25 Thread Cotty

>>> When someone asks me what kind of camera I have, I just reply: "Three
>>> grand", because let's face it, that's ultimately what every Joe  
>>> wants to know.
>>
>> Now that's practical.
>
>
>Not sure I'd recommend that.  You could be talking to a thief, or be  
>overheard by one, you know.  Better to say something like, "Oh, just  
>some old thing I dragged out of the closet".
>
>A few years ago a friend of mine was talking to the bell captain at a  
>hotel where he had stopped in to look around for possible interesting  
>photo locations.  They got to talking about cameras, and he showed  
>the bell captain his Leica gear from inside his camera bag.  They  
>talked a bit longer, and then he left and walked home.  As he  
>unlocked the door of his apartment he was hit over the head with some  
>sort of club and came to to find himself tied up and some guy  
>ransacking his apartment.  All of his camera gear and a bunch of  
>other stuff was taken, and it took him hours to get someone's  
>attention and get free.  He recognized the thief as someone he'd  
>noticed hanging out in the hotel lobby.
>
>Not only did he lose all his camera gear and some other valuable  
>things, he had problems for several years from where he was hit on  
>the head.  He died, and I've never been sure the head injury wasn't a  
>contributing factor.
>
>With camera gear as expensive as it has gotten, you can't be too  
>careful who you let know its value.

Interesting tale.

I normally walk around with $45,000 worth of TV gear hung over my
shoulder. I'm 6' 5"" tall and weigh 210. In 15 years I have had zillions
of people comment on how expensive-looking the kit is. I have never once
had a problem.

Of course, that is not to say that it could easily happen. There are
numerous documented cases of violent theft here in the UK. As a normal
part of my work, I risk assess continually. If I think there's any
possibility of unwanted attention, there are a host of security measures
I call on. Things that are incredibly simple, like parking with the rear
of the vehicle to the wall, so kit is not 'on display' when getting it
out / putting away. The camera weighs 26 lbs and I would not hesitate to
use it as a weapon in the event of an attempted robbery.

That's filming kit, and there is no such thing as 'low-profile' with it.
I appreciate that stills kit is a different kettle of worms ;-)  and i
certainly do take appropriate measures when out and about. My quip about
three grand was intended to be humourous, and it would not be my normal
desired opening line when accosted by a measurebator (q.v. Ken
Rockwell), but amongst a Sunday afternoon crowd at a family kite flying
festival, it's not a problem. In a bustling urban centre with hordes of
hooded youth about, my priorities are adapted accordingly.

For instance, with stills, I have several types of bags, one of which is
a canvas shoulder sack, the kind that students might carry books in. It
fits a camera and lens combo (even the size of Canon's offerings!) just
right, and means that while walking about, no attention is drawn. Camera
out of bag, snaps taken, camera in bag, move on.

On the whole, photogs are a very aware lot, good at using their eyes and
taking in what's going on around them. i think most on this list would
register unwanted attention and act accordingly, discretion the better
part of valour.

As to value of gear, anything hung around a neck or a shoulder that has
a lens and glitters is going to be of some value, usually several
hundreds of units of any given currency. If it is going to be passed off
as something dragged out of the closet, then it has got to look like it.
I don't care how you dress up a camera, whether it's taping up the logo
or hiding it in a canvas bag or even caking it in mud (!) but a camera
is a camera. To a dope fiend it is worth a good hit after it has been
hawked in a pub for a fraction of its real used value. My intention is
to avoid letting the dope fiend see it, let alone get access to it

Saturday morning musings over ;-)



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread David Savage
I'm kinda' partial to "Camera", or to be a bit more trendy "Kamera"

>From the same school of thought that makes people call the dog "Dog",
or the cat "Cat".

Dave :-)

On 2/24/06, Martin Trautmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> what's your guess about the name of the next *istD?



> - Martin
>
>



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, some of the counterfeits are excellent. I found some on Canal 
Street that actually had the perpetual movement. No battery. With the 
back cover removed, you would swear they were the real thing. At one 
time I was director of a radio control racing series. It was a six-city 
circuit with races once a month and a championship point series in five 
classes. I gave each class champion a Rolex at the end of the season. I 
wish someone had been there with a camera to record the look on their 
faces.

Paul
On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Bob Shell wrote:



On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I showed my Rolex Daytona to a bartender in my LA hotel a few years 
back. I went to bed that night and left it on the nightstand. When I 
woke up the next day, it was gone. Too bad, It was one of the nicest, 
most authentic counterfeits I've ever seen. Paid $35 for it on New



My Rolex President day/date is still with me.  I bought it in the 
Chinese Market in Kuala Lumpur some years ago for US $ 30.  The man 
who sold it to me said it had a lifetime warranty and just to bring it 
back to him if I ever had a problem with it.  It still runs and keeps 
perfect time, something which can't often be said for the real McCoy.


Bob





Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I showed my Rolex Daytona to a bartender in my LA hotel a few years  
back. I went to bed that night and left it on the nightstand. When  
I woke up the next day, it was gone. Too bad, It was one of the  
nicest, most authentic counterfeits I've ever seen. Paid $35 for it  
on New



My Rolex President day/date is still with me.  I bought it in the  
Chinese Market in Kuala Lumpur some years ago for US $ 30.  The man  
who sold it to me said it had a lifetime warranty and just to bring  
it back to him if I ever had a problem with it.  It still runs and  
keeps perfect time, something which can't often be said for the real  
McCoy.


Bob



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/24/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I showed my Rolex Daytona to a bartender in my LA hotel a few years
> back. I went to bed that night and left it on the nightstand. When I
> woke up the next day, it was gone. Too bad, It was one of the nicest,
> most authentic counterfeits I've ever seen. Paid $35 for it on New
> York's Canal Street.
> Paul

Does Canal Street have a website.  I'm looking for an authentic
counterfeit Leica.  

--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I showed my Rolex Daytona to a bartender in my LA hotel a few years 
back. I went to bed that night and left it on the nightstand. When I 
woke up the next day, it was gone. Too bad, It was one of the nicest, 
most authentic counterfeits I've ever seen. Paid $35 for it on New 
York's Canal Street.

Paul
On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:40 PM, Bob Shell wrote:



On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Cotty wrote:


When someone asks me what kind of camera I have, I just reply: "Three
grand", because let's face it, that's ultimately what every Joe 
wants to know.


Now that's practical.



Not sure I'd recommend that.  You could be talking to a thief, or be 
overheard by one, you know.  Better to say something like, "Oh, just 
some old thing I dragged out of the closet".


A few years ago a friend of mine was talking to the bell captain at a 
hotel where he had stopped in to look around for possible interesting 
photo locations.  They got to talking about cameras, and he showed the 
bell captain his Leica gear from inside his camera bag.  They talked a 
bit longer, and then he left and walked home.  As he unlocked the door 
of his apartment he was hit over the head with some sort of club and 
came to to find himself tied up and some guy ransacking his apartment. 
 All of his camera gear and a bunch of other stuff was taken, and it 
took him hours to get someone's attention and get free.  He recognized 
the thief as someone he'd noticed hanging out in the hotel lobby.


Not only did he lose all his camera gear and some other valuable 
things, he had problems for several years from where he was hit on the 
head.  He died, and I've never been sure the head injury wasn't a 
contributing factor.


With camera gear as expensive as it has gotten, you can't be too 
careful who you let know its value.


Bob





Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Cotty wrote:


When someone asks me what kind of camera I have, I just reply: "Three
grand", because let's face it, that's ultimately what every Joe  
wants to know.


Now that's practical.



Not sure I'd recommend that.  You could be talking to a thief, or be  
overheard by one, you know.  Better to say something like, "Oh, just  
some old thing I dragged out of the closet".


A few years ago a friend of mine was talking to the bell captain at a  
hotel where he had stopped in to look around for possible interesting  
photo locations.  They got to talking about cameras, and he showed  
the bell captain his Leica gear from inside his camera bag.  They  
talked a bit longer, and then he left and walked home.  As he  
unlocked the door of his apartment he was hit over the head with some  
sort of club and came to to find himself tied up and some guy  
ransacking his apartment.  All of his camera gear and a bunch of  
other stuff was taken, and it took him hours to get someone's  
attention and get free.  He recognized the thief as someone he'd  
noticed hanging out in the hotel lobby.


Not only did he lose all his camera gear and some other valuable  
things, he had problems for several years from where he was hit on  
the head.  He died, and I've never been sure the head injury wasn't a  
contributing factor.


With camera gear as expensive as it has gotten, you can't be too  
careful who you let know its value.


Bob



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Cotty wrote:


When someone asks me what kind of camera I have, I just reply: "Three
grand", because let's face it, that's ultimately what every Joe  
wants to know.


Now that's practical.

Godfrey



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread DagT

Den 25. feb. 2006 kl. 00.13 skrev Cotty:


When someone asks me what kind of camera I have, I just reply: "Three
grand", because let's face it, that's ultimately what every Joe  
wants to know.


I just answer: The kind that lets some light hit a sensor.

It doesn´t tell them what they want to know, but what the 

DagT



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Cotty
When someone asks me what kind of camera I have, I just reply: "Three
grand", because let's face it, that's ultimately what every Joe wants to know.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

Well, it would be nice to have a name that's pronouncable so you  can 
tell people what your camera is called when they ask. That's  always 
been the biggest problem with the *ist name.



Try "Pentax" or "Canon". Only the geekies will demand a model name. ;-) 


I agree with Godfrey (meaning, I suppose, we've had similar 
conversations with people.) Most people want to know what brand and is 
it digital? So my usual reply is "it's a Pentax DSLR." This takes care 
of about half the inquiries. Others require more details -- how much of 
a zoom does it have? To which I then explain that THIS lens on here 
right now is ...
Oh, but I digress. I tell 'em Pentax DSLR. If I told them "ist-dee" 
they'd still say "what's that" since everybody else they see with a DSLR 
has a Canon, which is twice the size.


ERN



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread E.R.N. Reed

DagT wrote:

My guess is: *istDx 


There'd be precedent for going with *istDn. Not that I think they should 
do that.




Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Cory Papenfuss wrote:


Just a WAG on my part (nor do I give a sh*t), but:


Will it be a *ist D2?

Doubt it... too easily confused with D[LS]2 of the 6MP generations. 


From a camera company that sold an Optio 550 and an Optio S50 within a 
couple years of each other? I doubt that would bother them.




Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread John Coyle
If anyone chooses to look at the larger version of the photo of the new APS 
digital, they will see that the badge simply says "D" - no "*" no "ist".  So 
maybe some of the flak that flew around with the *ist cameras was taken note 
of by Pentax.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia 



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

Well, it would be nice to have a name that's pronouncable so you  can 
tell people what your camera is called when they ask. That's  always 
been the biggest problem with the *ist name.



Try "Pentax" or "Canon". Only the geekies will demand a model name. ;-)

G


I've found exactly the opposite, the gear geeks are happy with 'Pentax' 
and the non-gear geeks kept asking me how to pronounce *ist.


-Adam



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

Well, it would be nice to have a name that's pronouncable so you  
can tell people what your camera is called when they ask. That's  
always been the biggest problem with the *ist name.


Try "Pentax" or "Canon". Only the geekies will demand a model name. ;-)

G



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
In my programming circles we call that a 'splat'  - so splat-ist, I
guess .

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Friday, February 24, 2006, 11:15:59 AM, you wrote:


BS> On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

>> Boris,
>>
>> How the heck to you pronouce *ist? Pentax is easy to say, *ist  
>> isn't (I normally just call it an ist, but that asterisk is a  
>> little confusing)
>>
>> -Adam


BS> I always thought that * was pronounced "Star".  So Star-ist.  I know
BS> it sounds a bit like a can of tuna

BS> Bob




Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

How the heck to you pronouce *ist? Pentax is easy to say, *ist isn't 
(I normally just call it an ist, but that asterisk is a little confusing)


-Adam



I always thought that * was pronounced "Star".  So Star-ist.  I know it 
sounds a bit like a can of tuna


Bob, each time I see a word with * symbol in it, I automatically feel 
like I am programming again... One of the ways to treat this symbol is 
not to pronounce it at all...


There is by the way Russian specific way in which I sometimes pronounce 
the name of my camera, but it shall be left private partly because it is 
very similar to certain obscenity.


Boris



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

How the heck to you pronouce *ist? Pentax is easy to say, *ist isn't (I 
normally just call it an ist, but that asterisk is a little confusing)


Please don't laff, ok? Thanks...

The camera is called *istD... I pronounce it like "East Dee". Now that 
I've written it, it is kind of funny, because I live on Middle *ist ;-).


Boris



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Adam Maas wrote:


Boris,

How the heck to you pronouce *ist? Pentax is easy to say, *ist  
isn't (I normally just call it an ist, but that asterisk is a  
little confusing)


-Adam



I always thought that * was pronounced "Star".  So Star-ist.  I know  
it sounds a bit like a can of tuna


Bob



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas

Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

Well, it would be nice to have a name that's pronouncable so you can 
tell people what your camera is called when they ask. That's always 
been the biggest problem with the *ist name.



Adam, since when Pentax is not pronounceable??? I think even I can 
pronounce it reasonably clear.


In fact, I think that outside of Pentax realm, no-one really knows the 
subtle differences between *istD and all its siblings... Usually, if I 
tell people that my photo gear of choice is Pentax branded, it suffices...


Godfrey, I am with you at this time. You're absolutely right - if you 
have this very camera in your hands, it absolutely does not matter what 
is its name...


Boris




Boris,

How the heck to you pronouce *ist? Pentax is easy to say, *ist isn't (I 
normally just call it an ist, but that asterisk is a little confusing)


-Adam



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 01:47:33PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >Who cares?
> >They can call it anything they like as long as it works well.
> >
> >If it doesn't, it'll be called a piece of junk. Or worse. ;-)
> >
> >Godfrey
> 
> Well, it would be nice to have a name that's pronouncable so you can 
> tell people what your camera is called when they ask. That's always been 
> the biggest problem with the *ist name.

I just say "It's a Pentax"




Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Well, it would be nice to have a name that's pronouncable so you can 
tell people what your camera is called when they ask. That's always been 
the biggest problem with the *ist name.


Adam, since when Pentax is not pronounceable??? I think even I can 
pronounce it reasonably clear.


In fact, I think that outside of Pentax realm, no-one really knows the 
subtle differences between *istD and all its siblings... Usually, if I 
tell people that my photo gear of choice is Pentax branded, it suffices...


Godfrey, I am with you at this time. You're absolutely right - if you 
have this very camera in your hands, it absolutely does not matter what 
is its name...


Boris




Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Who cares?
They can call it anything they like as long as it works well.

If it doesn't, it'll be called a piece of junk. Or worse. ;-)

Godfrey


Well, it would be nice to have a name that's pronouncable so you can 
tell people what your camera is called when they ask. That's always been 
the biggest problem with the *ist name.


-Adam



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I care ... very much ;-))

I'd like it to be named *Irving if it's a boy and *Irene if it's a girl.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

> Who cares?
> They can call it anything they like as long as it works well.
>
> If it doesn't, it'll be called a piece of junk. Or worse. ;-)
>
> Godfrey




Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Who cares?
They can call it anything they like as long as it works well.

If it doesn't, it'll be called a piece of junk. Or worse. ;-)

Godfrey



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-02-24 13:00, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
> *istDX


from staristdesix to staristde-x? Nice idea.


(all former DSLRs had 6 MP, now it's a ten as in MacOSX)

Could be. I felt the 'Mac-of-Photography' was Olympus, 
while Pentax was more some kind of IBM -
offering the best idea many times, but being too late now. 



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl


*istDX


"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
-- Jim Elliott



RE: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Cory Papenfuss

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Jens Bladt wrote:


Probably just "Pentax D".
It doesn't say *ist anywhere at the moment.
Regards


Elegantly simple thought.

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RE: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Malcolm Smith
Michel Carrère-Gée wrote:

> A new name ?
> No more *ist ?
> "newname" D  ?

*ist D'oh!

Malcolm





RE: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Probably just "Pentax D".
It doesn't say *ist anywhere at the moment.
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Emne: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?


Hi all,

what's your guess about the name of the next *istD?

The 10 MP camera does not show a name yet.
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-04.jpg
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200609.html


Will it be a *ist D2?

Since Samsung did GX-1S = *ist DS2 and GX-1L = *ist DL2, they would have
to name this as GX-1?

How about *ist DA (advanced) or *ist DP (professional)?
Or even better "*ist D*"...


- Martin

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Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Pål Jensen


- Original Message - 
From: "K.Takeshita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I thought I saw somewhere that Pentax no longer use *ist designation for
next generations of DSLRs.   Crossing fingers ;-).



It was said that the *ist name was reserved for entry level cameras. So it 
depends wether this ine is entry level or not...



Pål 





Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/24/06 10:55 AM, "Cory Papenfuss", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How about just '*'?  Seems pretty likely given the names of
> before.

I thought I saw somewhere that Pentax no longer use *ist designation for
next generations of DSLRs.   Crossing fingers ;-).

Ken



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread DagT

My guess is: *istDx

DagT

Den 24. feb. 2006 kl. 16.45 skrev Martin Trautmann:


Hi all,

what's your guess about the name of the next *istD?

The 10 MP camera does not show a name yet.
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-04.jpg
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200609.html


Will it be a *ist D2?

Since Samsung did GX-1S = *ist DS2 and GX-1L = *ist DL2, they would  
have

to name this as GX-1?

How about *ist DA (advanced) or *ist DP (professional)?
Or even better "*ist D*"...


- Martin





Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée

A new name ?
No more *ist ?
"newname" D  ?

??

Michel



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Cory Papenfuss

Just a WAG on my part (nor do I give a sh*t), but:


Will it be a *ist D2?

	Doubt it... too easily confused with D[LS]2 of the 6MP 
generations.



Since Samsung did GX-1S = *ist DS2 and GX-1L = *ist DL2, they would have
to name this as GX-1?


Again, generational confusion.


How about *ist DA (advanced) or *ist DP (professional)?
Or even better "*ist D*"...

	How about just '*'?  Seems pretty likely given the names of 
before.


Stupid Pentax.

-Cory

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* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
Hi all,

what's your guess about the name of the next *istD?

The 10 MP camera does not show a name yet.
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-04.jpg
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200609.html


Will it be a *ist D2?

Since Samsung did GX-1S = *ist DS2 and GX-1L = *ist DL2, they would have
to name this as GX-1?

How about *ist DA (advanced) or *ist DP (professional)?
Or even better "*ist D*"...


- Martin