Re: wish me luck!
Just to clarify, I meant the online ability to purchase the final product. I don't care if it's no good. 8-))) On 23/01/2011, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/21/2011 10:24 AM, Tanya Love wrote: Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. Well, I do wish you luck, but from what I gather about you and your photography, you're bound to acquit yourself brilliantly. I would be also intrigued to see your work should it become possible to do so online. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21/01/2011, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Let us know if there's online availability, please. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/21/2011 10:24 AM, Tanya Love wrote: Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. Well, I do wish you luck, but from what I gather about you and your photography, you're bound to acquit yourself brilliantly. I would be also intrigued to see your work should it become possible to do so online. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sounds like you've got plenty of luck already, Tanya. :-) Just keep going. cheers, Jostein 2011/1/21 Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Of course! Best of luck Tanya! Dario - Original Message - From: Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:24 AM Subject: wish me luck! Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 10.0.1191 / Database dei virus: 1435/3393 - Data di rilascio: 20/01/2011 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21 January 2011 19:24, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). LOL, if I didn't know you better I'd think so too! Go for it, you'll sh_t it in, not wanting to sound inappropriate given the circumstances but have fun (I'm sure you of all people will be able to find the good in it all) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( [...] congratulations - that's a great result. Break a leg! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Congratulations! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tan, that's a great project. It will undoubtedly be a sell out. I don't think 10,000 will be enough. Let us know when to look out for it in the shops. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:24 +1000, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21/1/11, Tanya Love, discombobulated, unleashed: she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too! That, I would have to say, would be about the understatement of the year. Best of luck Tan x -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:33 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like you've got plenty of luck already, Tanya. :-) Just keep going. cheers, Jostein Ditto. Just do what you're good at ... shoot! Congratulations! Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Sounds like a very worthy project. All the best. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good for you! Looking forward to seeing the results. Paul On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Tanya Love wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You don't need luck, you have the skill and experience to handle this nicely. And obviously you make your own good luck. But for what it is worth, Good Luck! Stan On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Tanya Love wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't doubt they've exercised good judgment in giving you the assignment, Tanya. Attendant pressure will only insure your success and satisfaction with the results. Jack --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: From: Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com Subject: wish me luck! To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 12:24 AM Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I believe the phrase is good onya...? Best of luck! :) -c On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bravo! Go Forth and Make Photos! Good luck and congratulations! This is terrific! On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What he said. Igor Stan Halpin stan at stans-photography.info Fri Jan 21 07:00:08 CST 2011 You don't need luck, you have the skill and experience to handle this nicely. And obviously you make your own good luck. But for what it is worth, Good Luck! Stan On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Tanya Love wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This is fantastic, Tanya. Wishing you all the best from Chicago!!! Great way to use your skills to make a difference!!! And I'll buy a calendar for sure if available this far away!!! Sending biggest good luck wishes and cheers possible, Christine - Original Message - From: Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:24 AM Subject: wish me luck! Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would think you yourself are about to become a news story as well. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:24 AM Subject: wish me luck! Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AlunFoto wrote: Sounds like you've got plenty of luck already, Tanya. :-) Just keep going. cheers, Jostein And be careful!!! Sounds scary to me ann the cowardly shooter 2011/1/21 Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Christine Aguila wrote: I would think you yourself are about to become a news story as well. Cheers, Christine thats why I told her to be careful :_) ann - Original Message - From: Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:24 AM Subject: wish me luck! Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow 'em Tanja. We all know you can! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:24, Tanya Love wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. I'm a little fuzzy on this, or maybe just clueless. You're going into a disaster area... to shoot for a calendar? If the goal is to have an appealing calendar that delights people when they look at it, it sounds like you definitely have your work cut out for you. It sounds exciting and challenging, and I'm glad it's not me going! Good luck, and stay safe. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Congrats, Tanya! Your story reminds me of the Thomas Jefferson quote: “I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it.” -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Go for it, Tan. Nice work so far and I'm sure there's more to come. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats, Tanya! Your story reminds me of the Thomas Jefferson quote: “I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it.” -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Tanya Love There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). I *DO* wish you luck. But I don't know how good of a mentor this highly respected photographer can be if he needs his eyes examined that badly. Them ain't BALLS. I've seen the pictures! - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2011-01-21 01:24 , Tanya Love wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. that's sounds like a very positive way to respond to the flood, also real challenge and a great job done setting it up; stay humble and let us know how it goes -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21 January 2011 03:24, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. It will make you, Tan; no doubt about it. You go, Girl! :-) —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You go girl ! Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com Subject: wish me luck! Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You're amazing, Tan! Go for it, and I'll look forward to buying the results. John -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tanya Love Sent: Friday, 21 January 2011 6:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: wish me luck! Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow... can't wait to see your pix -T On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal. Tomorrow, I am going, under police/government escort to a little town called Grantham. I use the term town loosely as there is nothing left of it now. :( It is the spot where over 10 lives were lost and there are still about 8 missing. It is currently a crime scene and even the towns folk are only allowed limited access. From 6am tomorrow (Saturday), until 6pm Sunday night, I will be there, K-7s in tow, photographing the scene and its people for a calendar that I am designing. Don't ask me how but I have endorsement from the AIPP, Pentax Australia and Qld Premier Anna Bligh, all of whom will be providing a Foreward and logos etc for Inclusion in the calendar. We have an initial print run happening of 10,000, and the Premier's office itself is paying for the printing! It is going to be distributed to every Newsagent in the country and possibly into Myer and Target department stores too. There was a meeting last night of the Qld Council of the AIPP, where they elected to allow me to wear official AIPP attire, reserved usually only for officials and judges at the National Awards etc. Apparently, all of those at the meeting were chomping at the bit wishing that they were in my shoes. The Chairperson even exclaimed in astonishment How the fuck did she manage to get in there?! To which a highly respected photographer, who for some reason has taken me under his wing this past few months replied, Because she has BALLS, and she is a tenacious little thing too!(He told me this story when I went to his studio to collect the uniform today). Exciting stuff, but to say that I am crapping myself is an understatement, this is BIG time. This could really make or break me! Wish me luck! Oh, and did I mention that I managed to get a rather nice lens on loan from CR Kennedy for the expedition too? Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Doug Brewer Bob Sullivan wrote: Tim, A co-worker responsible for a series of training classes had a sign above his desk. The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I'm sure you can do that. Regards, Bob S. http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/ I hate Power Point. Worst thing that ever happened to the U.S. Army was when officers discovered Power Point. Spare me from daily briefings Power Point Rangers! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. Good luck. Some good books about composition and analysing pictures are, in no particular order: A primer of visual literacy, Dondis Photo Design, Mante Color Design, Mante The photograph: composition and colour design, Mante Learning to look at paintings, Acton Point and line to plane, Kandinsky Seeing is Believing, Berger Introduction to Two-Dimensional Design, Bowers How to Read a Photograph, Ian Jeffrey Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_pp Tim, A co-worker responsible for a series of training classes had a sign above his desk. The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I'm sure you can do that. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What a relief! When I saw the subject line I was afraid you were hiring out on another ship! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com Subject: Please wish me luck folks To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:53 PM Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No more ships for Tim! He'll be flying everywhere from now on. What a relief! When I saw the subject line I was afraid you were hiring out on another ship! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Leave ship? Is that an option? I have thought about it. But I have realized that the reason I suck as photographer is not my tools, it is my own limitation. I've almost stopped blaming my tools. -- MaritimTim 2009/4/1 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: What a relief! When I saw the subject line I was afraid you were hiring out on another ship! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doug, That sacrilege to those of us who revere Lincoln! ;-) I used to keep a copy of the Gettysburg Address posted on my office wall... for those who couldn't keep their memos under 1 page. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Tim, A co-worker responsible for a series of training classes had a sign above his desk. The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I'm sure you can do that. Regards, Bob S. http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, A co-worker responsible for a series of training classes had a sign above his desk. The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I'm sure you can do that. Regards, Bob S. What, no mention of Nikon.:-) Dave On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tim, are you starting photo classes on april 1st??? Whyinhell that kind of opportunity don't come my way Serious, I really wish you a very, very sucessful first day - and still more sucessful others following said first day. ...how much would the lessons cost to a brasilian student??? Tim, I'd try to point photos could be built - an idea I got from Michael Busselle books and some Life book on photo from the 70's. And the importance of paying attention to photo ops - and how easier to get the decisive moment if you happen to have the camera pointed the right way, just a little earlier. There are lots of good sources, and I'm positive the other messages will present unusual sources as well... I'll be taking notes myself. Congrats! LF Tim Øsleby escreveu: Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tim Øsleby wrote: I've almost stopped blaming my tools. Mark! Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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good luck! I'm doing the same next monday. i was asked by a group of students from a local 'tech-students club' (which i mentioned these days, it was celebrating a 55th anniversary). i have no idea of their level and tought of starting with presenting some good images in different mediums (print, lousy print, slide, digital projection) and than showing them some bad pictures just to confuse/amuse/amaze?? them a little for a start. then i'm thinking to start as high or low as the group seems to be. cheers, luka ps probably will end up in a disaster, good thing i said i'll start out for free :) On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Leave ship? Is that an option? I have thought about it. But I have realized that the reason I suck as photographer is not my tools, it is my own limitation. I've almost stopped blaming my tools. -- MaritimTim 2009/4/1 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: What a relief! When I saw the subject line I was afraid you were hiring out on another ship! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. You live on the Norwegian coast. Stop mocking us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. I can't help you in any way except to wish you all the best in your endeavor. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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:-) It's been a long time since my last score. -- MaritimTim 2009/4/1 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Tim Øsleby wrote: I've almost stopped blaming my tools. Mark! Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tim Øsleby wrote: :-) It's been a long time since my last score. story of my life, buddy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks. Good luck to you too. I think I passed the test. Pretty high on adrenaline now ;-) -- MaritimTim 2009/4/1 Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com: good luck! I'm doing the same next monday. i was asked by a group of students from a local 'tech-students club' (which i mentioned these days, it was celebrating a 55th anniversary). i have no idea of their level and tought of starting with presenting some good images in different mediums (print, lousy print, slide, digital projection) and than showing them some bad pictures just to confuse/amuse/amaze?? them a little for a start. then i'm thinking to start as high or low as the group seems to be. cheers, luka ps probably will end up in a disaster, good thing i said i'll start out for free :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I like a friend's signature file: An amateur practices until he can get it right. A professional practices until he can't get it wrong. -- Sandy Harris, Quanzhou, Fujian, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Sandy Harris Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I like a friend's signature file: An amateur practices until he can get it right. A professional practices until he can't get it wrong. A PRO gets paid for his/her work. All the rest of it just arguing how high or low in the profession he/she is. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Please wish me luck folks
Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tim Øsleby wrote: Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim Sure. Tonight read On Being a Photographer by David Hurn and Bill Jay. go on. Get started. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. IMHO, powerpoint presentations are guaranteed to put people to sleep and not get the point across. Other than that, HCB's The Mind's Eye is quite good for philosophical points on composition. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Don't worry Scott. The presentation is not a non stop show. My plan is to talk a lot, on and off topic. And the idea is to open up for input from the class to. The PP presentation is just the icing on the cake. Or perhaps better, the structure of the exercise. -- MaritimTim 2009/4/1 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com: IMHO, powerpoint presentations are guaranteed to put people to sleep and not get the point across. Other than that, HCB's The Mind's Eye is quite good for philosophical points on composition. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 3/31/2009 4:53:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, maritim...@gmail.com writes: Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim === Good luck. In the photography class I've taken where the teacher put a lot of emphasis on composition, he obviously laboriously culled example photos from all over the place. No Help At All, Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0003) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tim, A co-worker responsible for a series of training classes had a sign above his desk. The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I'm sure you can do that. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Tomorrow I'm having my first photo class, as a tutor :-) I know. I'm raving mad, so you don't need to tell me that. We are a bunch who are starting a photo club, and somebody got to do it :-) Me and a friend has been working a lot creating a PowerPoint presentation. First lesson will be basic stuff, exposure and such. But next session will be about basic composition. That's a lot tougher. The good thing about it, is that I'll probably learn a lot. Anybody got some ideas where to look for inspiration? Except from the obvious tip, to look at good pictures. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob Sullivan wrote: Tim, A co-worker responsible for a series of training classes had a sign above his desk. The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I'm sure you can do that. Regards, Bob S. http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 3/31/2009 8:18:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, d...@alphoto.com writes: Bob Sullivan wrote: Tim, A co-worker responsible for a series of training classes had a sign above his desk. The difference between an amateur and a pro is that the pro looks prepared and has powerpoint slides. I'm sure you can do that. Regards, Bob S. http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/ = Heheheheh. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0003) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Paul Stenquist wrote: No real news. The first hearing was just to see if my daughter was going to appear and to tell her not to leave the jurisdiction until the case is settled. Our lawyer asked for a dismissal, but the judge wants to hold the evidentiary hearing before ruling on that. It will probably happen in a few weeks. Paul I haven't been keeping up on the list here, but I belatedly wish you and your daughter good luck in this. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, Michigan www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: William Robb - Original Message - From: Bill Sawyer Subject: RE: Wish Me Luck Also, the court is dealing with American citizens, give it great credit for protecting it's own - I thought they were supposed to be unbiased and impartial. Are you implying that American courts act improperly? William Robb No more so than the English court system. They guy with the most money for lawyers usually prevails, which can put you at a disadvantage if you're an individual going up against someone who's got a government paying the tab. Best legal advice I ever got - Don't go into court expecting Truth, Justice and the American Way! 'Cause what you're going to get is the LAW. And the law is whatever the judge says the law is. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Jim King On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:09:59 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how would they filter out cases without merit? They'd have to hear both sides. In other words, that is what bringing things into court does. It would seem to me that the courts could review the cases being brought and dismiss out of hand those with no legal basis, rather than hauling the person being sued into court to defend themselves against a malicious attack. But I don't know all the facts or the law in this matter; it may be that a hearing with both sides present is required to sort this matter out. The courts can do that. But they will have to hear at least some arguments to determine what does or does not have legal basis, although I think the legalese for the term is merit. In any event, if the plaintiff does not have a valid case (s)he should pay the legal costs of the defendant without having to resort to more legal action to force recovery. If I understand correctly that's the way it works in many countries. However, US lawyers have constructed the legal system differently here. I guess you win some and I win some, but the lawyers always win... (My father was a lawyer and my daughter is a lawyer; I've had this discussion with them also.) Regards, Jim The problem with a system where the loser is automatically saddled with the winner's legal costs is it tilts the system even farther toward the litigant with the deepest pockets. Consider the poor person wronged by the rich man. The rich man can already afford to pay lawyers to obfuscate, delay and run out the clock. Now you propose to enable the rich man to to pile on insult to injury by bankrupting him for his temerity in seeking redress. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Sessoms wrote: From: William Robb - Original Message - From: Bill Sawyer Subject: RE: Wish Me Luck Also, the court is dealing with American citizens, give it great credit for protecting it's own - I thought they were supposed to be unbiased and impartial. Are you implying that American courts act improperly? William Robb No more so than the English court system. They guy with the most money for lawyers usually prevails, which can put you at a disadvantage if you're an individual going up against someone who's got a government paying the tab. Best legal advice I ever got - Don't go into court expecting Truth, Justice and the American Way! 'Cause what you're going to get is the LAW. And the law is whatever the judge says the law is. Hah! Now, John's absolutely got that down pat! Every jury I've been a part of, the judge says essentially the same thing. I'LL tell you what the law is, and what to believe. keith whaley U.S. of A. Home of very expensive attorneys, mostly biased judges and greenback justice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I hope everything turns out well for your daughter, granddaughter and you, Paul. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 07:46:52 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Wish Me Luck Thanks Tim. And that's a great idea. I'm going to bring quite a few pictures. All of her birthdays, Christmas, that shot with my mom and more. Paul The one of her sleeping on the kitchen floor might not be a good idea. But you never know. On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I feel I know Grace, so hearing this makes me angry. Judging from the facts I have I don't give the scumbag much of a chance in court. But you should not have to deal with this. All the stress a situation like this causes. Please keep me informed Paul, on or off list. One little idea Paul. Bring the picture of Grace and you mom to the lawyer. Used the right way it could influence the court decision. It makes a very strong statement saying that Grace is taken well care off where she is. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 26. mars 2007 01:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Wish Me Luck The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time drug dealer who lives near Edinburg, Scotland. But like all citizens of the Uk, he's entitled to free legal aid. So when my daughter, who was tired of being beaten and locked in an apartment, fled Scotland with Grace, he sought legal aid. He doesn't really want Grace. He wants to punish my daughter for leaving him. But the UK legal aid system is monstrous. They were able to retain the best law firm in Michigan to represent him. The law firm evidently was able to pull some strings. We weren't served papers until Friday night for a Monday court appearance. The first lawyer my daughter talked to wanted a 20K US retainer just to show up. Luckily, I have some friends in law as well. I eventually found a very aggressive young woman lawyer who will represent us tomorrow. I still have to come up with a six K retainer, but that's better than twenty K. I think the Brits and their social welfare state should go directly to hell. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 07:48:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck The father has a recent conviction for drug possession and no job, yet UK legal aid still allowed him to bring this suit and apparently is paying the US lawyers $700 an hour for their services. Now our UK friends know where there tax dollars are going. Paul I pay tax in _dollars_? Don't know whether to be annoyed that I'm in the 51st state or happy that my bill just reduced by 50%. On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Jim King wrote: keith_w wrote on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:58:07 -0800: (snip) Misleading! As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and both are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents. Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having to do more with malice than with equity. The legal system needs to filter out cases without merit before allowing charges or a tort to be brought, and there should be consequences for those bringing baseless cases before the court. Our system seems to reward lawyers for such behavior. But then, I'm not a lawyer; what do I know? Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nightmare had become reality.snip Paul, I've now read many dozens of replies in this thread, and really, I can add nothing to this matter other than to send my best wishes to your grandaughter (for it's her welfare that is everyone's primary concern), your daughter and you and your family. One thing I will caution you about is listening to legal advice from non-lawyers (including this list). Without comment, I'll say that I've seen much in the way of inaccuracy and wrong information on this list, well intentioned though it might be. You'll be paying plenty to your lawyer - listen to her. Best of luck, and I'll be sending good thoughts Grace's way! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Be happy:-). Just a cross cultural screw up on my part. Tax dollars is such a common expression here that it slipped out unnoticed. Paul On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:54 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 07:48:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck The father has a recent conviction for drug possession and no job, yet UK legal aid still allowed him to bring this suit and apparently is paying the US lawyers $700 an hour for their services. Now our UK friends know where there tax dollars are going. Paul I pay tax in _dollars_? Don't know whether to be annoyed that I'm in the 51st state or happy that my bill just reduced by 50%. On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Jim King wrote: keith_w wrote on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:58:07 -0800: (snip) Misleading! As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and both are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents. Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having to do more with malice than with equity. The legal system needs to filter out cases without merit before allowing charges or a tort to be brought, and there should be consequences for those bringing baseless cases before the court. Our system seems to reward lawyers for such behavior. But then, I'm not a lawyer; what do I know? Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nightmare had become reality.snip Paul, Trust it all works out in the end. The road can get rough tho. Hang tough, best of luck. dk -- www.pbase.com/davekennedy Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 01:30:53 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck Be happy:-). Just a cross cultural screw up on my part. Tax dollars is such a common expression here that it slipped out unnoticed. Paul Just hope I'm lightening your day. What news? On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:54 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 07:48:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck The father has a recent conviction for drug possession and no job, yet UK legal aid still allowed him to bring this suit and apparently is paying the US lawyers $700 an hour for their services. Now our UK friends know where there tax dollars are going. Paul I pay tax in _dollars_? Don't know whether to be annoyed that I'm in the 51st state or happy that my bill just reduced by 50%. On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Jim King wrote: keith_w wrote on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:58:07 -0800: (snip) Misleading! As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and both are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents. Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having to do more with malice than with equity. The legal system needs to filter out cases without merit before allowing charges or a tort to be brought, and there should be consequences for those bringing baseless cases before the court. Our system seems to reward lawyers for such behavior. But then, I'm not a lawyer; what do I know? Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Frank. I'm in good hands with the lawyers who are working on the case. They have a lot of experience and are very thorough. I think it will be handled quickly. Translation: I hope it will be handled before I run out of money:-). Paul On Mar 27, 2007, at 9:41 AM, frank theriault wrote: On 3/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nightmare had become reality.snip Paul, I've now read many dozens of replies in this thread, and really, I can add nothing to this matter other than to send my best wishes to your grandaughter (for it's her welfare that is everyone's primary concern), your daughter and you and your family. One thing I will caution you about is listening to legal advice from non-lawyers (including this list). Without comment, I'll say that I've seen much in the way of inaccuracy and wrong information on this list, well intentioned though it might be. You'll be paying plenty to your lawyer - listen to her. Best of luck, and I'll be sending good thoughts Grace's way! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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No real news. The first hearing was just to see if my daughter was going to appear and to tell her not to leave the jurisdiction until the case is settled. Our lawyer asked for a dismissal, but the judge wants to hold the evidentiary hearing before ruling on that. It will probably happen in a few weeks. Paul On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:06 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 01:30:53 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck Be happy:-). Just a cross cultural screw up on my part. Tax dollars is such a common expression here that it slipped out unnoticed. Paul Just hope I'm lightening your day. What news? On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:54 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 07:48:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck The father has a recent conviction for drug possession and no job, yet UK legal aid still allowed him to bring this suit and apparently is paying the US lawyers $700 an hour for their services. Now our UK friends know where there tax dollars are going. Paul I pay tax in _dollars_? Don't know whether to be annoyed that I'm in the 51st state or happy that my bill just reduced by 50%. On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Jim King wrote: keith_w wrote on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:58:07 -0800: (snip) Misleading! As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and both are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents. Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having to do more with malice than with equity. The legal system needs to filter out cases without merit before allowing charges or a tort to be brought, and there should be consequences for those bringing baseless cases before the court. Our system seems to reward lawyers for such behavior. But then, I'm not a lawyer; what do I know? Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Paul, I wish you the very best of luck with this horrible situation. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Was that the first $6,000? I assume not. In this situation, having essentially the total legal gauntlet in front of me certainly would add to my frustration. As the process goes forward, however, I'd look for a relaxing of anxiety and a growing optimism. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No real news. The first hearing was just to see if my daughter was going to appear and to tell her not to leave the jurisdiction until the case is settled. Our lawyer asked for a dismissal, but the judge wants to hold the evidentiary hearing before ruling on that. It will probably happen in a few weeks. Paul On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:06 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 01:30:53 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck Be happy:-). Just a cross cultural screw up on my part. Tax dollars is such a common expression here that it slipped out unnoticed. Paul Just hope I'm lightening your day. What news? On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:54 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 07:48:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck The father has a recent conviction for drug possession and no job, yet UK legal aid still allowed him to bring this suit and apparently is paying the US lawyers $700 an hour for their services. Now our UK friends know where there tax dollars are going. Paul I pay tax in _dollars_? Don't know whether to be annoyed that I'm in the 51st state or happy that my bill just reduced by 50%. On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Jim King wrote: keith_w wrote on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:58:07 -0800: (snip) Misleading! As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and both are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents. Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having to do more with malice than with equity. The legal system needs to filter out cases without merit before allowing charges or a tort to be brought, and there should be consequences for those bringing baseless cases before the court. Our system seems to reward lawyers for such behavior. But then, I'm not a lawyer; what do I know? Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Frank. I'm in good hands with the lawyers who are working on the case. They have a lot of experience and are very thorough. I think it will be handled quickly. Translation: I hope it will be handled before I run out of money:-). If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML could generate a defense fund for you. I'd certainly contribute. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 27/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML could generate a defense fund for you. I'd certainly contribute. If the scumbag can get legal aid, I don't see why Grace herself is not entitled to it, being a Scot. It would be nice if there was some mechanism in the system to accommodate this. http://www.slab.org.uk/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks much. That's very thoughtful. I think we'll be fine. Time will tell. Many thanks to all who have responded. I will update the situation when there is progress. That won't happen for at least a couple of weeks. Paul On Mar 27, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Frank. I'm in good hands with the lawyers who are working on the case. They have a lot of experience and are very thorough. I think it will be handled quickly. Translation: I hope it will be handled before I run out of money:-). If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML could generate a defense fund for you. I'd certainly contribute. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Paul. Don't be a fool hesitating if you need a hand. You have friends, and that is what friends are for. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 27. mars 2007 20:13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck Thanks much. That's very thoughtful. I think we'll be fine. Time will tell. Many thanks to all who have responded. I will update the situation when there is progress. That won't happen for at least a couple of weeks. Paul On Mar 27, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Frank. I'm in good hands with the lawyers who are working on the case. They have a lot of experience and are very thorough. I think it will be handled quickly. Translation: I hope it will be handled before I run out of money:-). If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML could generate a defense fund for you. I'd certainly contribute. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Count me in! Boris Tim Øsleby wrote: Paul. Don't be a fool hesitating if you need a hand. You have friends, and that is what friends are for. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 27. mars 2007 20:13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck Thanks much. That's very thoughtful. I think we'll be fine. Time will tell. Many thanks to all who have responded. I will update the situation when there is progress. That won't happen for at least a couple of weeks. Paul On Mar 27, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Frank. I'm in good hands with the lawyers who are working on the case. They have a lot of experience and are very thorough. I think it will be handled quickly. Translation: I hope it will be handled before I run out of money:-). If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML could generate a defense fund for you. I'd certainly contribute. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 27 March 2007 19:07 To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck On 27/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML could generate a defense fund for you. I'd certainly contribute. If the scumbag can get legal aid, I don't see why Grace herself is not entitled to it, being a Scot. It would be nice if there was some mechanism in the system to accommodate this. http://www.slab.org.uk/ Grace won't be the defendant. Presumably her mother will. If she's still married to the father she may qualify - might be worth exploring the citizenship question in any case. -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You're right. The action is against my daughter. She is still married to the Scot, although my daughter's lawyer is filing for divorce as well as defending the custody action. I'll tell my daughter to investigate. Of course I've already delivered the first check to the attorney. I think that's a one-way street. Paul On Mar 27, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 27 March 2007 19:07 To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck On 27/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: If the need arises, I wouldn't be surprised if the PDML could generate a defense fund for you. I'd certainly contribute. If the scumbag can get legal aid, I don't see why Grace herself is not entitled to it, being a Scot. It would be nice if there was some mechanism in the system to accommodate this. http://www.slab.org.uk/ Grace won't be the defendant. Presumably her mother will. If she's still married to the father she may qualify - might be worth exploring the citizenship question in any case. -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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And that's the fault of the American legal system, not the British legal system ... While I wish you luck in your case, I think it's a great deal better to have a verdict based on the merits of the case, rather than on anyones ability to pay for lawyers. On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:41:13PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Walter. I'm sure we'll prevail, but it might be expensive. Paul On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: My prayers will be with you tomorrow. Life sucks sometimes! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Francis wrote: And that's the fault of the American legal system, not the British legal system ... While I wish you luck in your case, I think it's a great deal better to have a verdict based on the merits of the case, rather than on anyones ability to pay for lawyers. When did that nicety show up in the U.S. jurisprudence system? Almost without exception, you get a FAR better deal, and a more fair deal, if you can afford the high priced law firms to take your case. Unfortunately, I've seen the reverse happen too often, as well, where the bad guys who can afford high priced representation get off scot-free. Nevertheless, if the average person in legal trouble can afford it, his chances of ending up with a more reasonable decision are increased in direct proportion to his ability to pay for assistance. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It's not a travesty - it's a problem with two different systems interacting. If this were being tried in a UK court the legal aid system would provide a lawyer for the plaintiff, but it wouldn't necessarily provide a lawyer from the most expensive firm in town (or, at any rate, it wouldn't pay him any more than the regulation fee it would provide to any lawyer). But when the jurisdiction is overseas it gets more complicated. The system obviously errs on the side of providing better service, rather than leaving the rights of a British citizen in the hands of lawyers who might be unfamiliar with the complications of a trans-national case. That seems to me to be the correct thing to do. And while I'm sure Paul is being truthful in his assessment of the merits of the case that doesn't mean the case shouldn't be brought - the law should be available to everyone (even alcoholic drug dealers). And there is at least enough of a case here for it to be brought to trial; a minor child has been taken from the home of a British parent and taken to a foreign country. The legal guardianship of that child is in dispute, and that can only be settled in court. On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:51:53PM -0400, Jim King wrote: What a travesty to make of the legal system! Good luck, and may your lawyer tie them in knots! Regards, Jim BTW, can you recover your legal fees if, as hoped, the judge tosses the case out of court? It seems to me that there should be some penalty for bringing a case without merit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Francis wrote: It's not a travesty - it's a problem with two different systems interacting. If this were being tried in a UK court the legal aid system would provide a lawyer for the plaintiff, but it wouldn't necessarily provide a lawyer from the most expensive firm in town (or, at any rate, it wouldn't pay him any more than the regulation fee it would provide to any lawyer). But when the jurisdiction is overseas it gets more complicated. The system obviously errs on the side of providing better service, rather than leaving the rights of a British citizen in the hands of lawyers who might be unfamiliar with the complications of a trans-national case. That seems to me to be the correct thing to do. And while I'm sure Paul is being truthful in his assessment of the merits of the case that doesn't mean the case shouldn't be brought - the law should be available to everyone (even alcoholic drug dealers). And there is at least enough of a case here for it to be brought to trial; a minor child has been taken from the home of a British parent and taken to a foreign country. Misleading! As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and both are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents. keith whaley The legal guardianship of that child is in dispute, and that can only be settled in court. On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:51:53PM -0400, Jim King wrote: What a travesty to make of the legal system! Good luck, and may your lawyer tie them in knots! Regards, Jim BTW, can you recover your legal fees if, as hoped, the judge tosses the case out of court? It seems to me that there should be some penalty for bringing a case without merit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/25 Sun PM 11:51:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT: Wish Me Luck The nightmare had become reality. Chin up, Paul and family. No sensible court is going to give custody (and maybe not even access rights) to an idividual as messed up as Grace's father seems to be. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I doubt it. The father is a penniless lout. The UK should have to pay, but I doubt that anything like that can be made to happen. Paul On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Jim King wrote: What a travesty to make of the legal system! Good luck, and may your lawyer tie them in knots! Regards, Jim BTW, can you recover your legal fees if, as hoped, the judge tosses the case out of court? It seems to me that there should be some penalty for bringing a case without merit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks. And thanks to all who responded with such encouraging words. The PDML is truly a family, and everyone's support is deeply appreciated. Paul On Mar 26, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Paul, All I can say is that I'll pray for a just outcome. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Wish Me Luck The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time drug dealer who lives near Edinburg, Scotland. But like all citizens of the Uk, he's entitled to free legal aid. So when my daughter, who was tired of being beaten and locked in an apartment, fled Scotland with Grace, he sought legal aid. He doesn't really want Grace. He wants to punish my daughter for leaving him. But the UK legal aid system is monstrous. They were able to retain the best law firm in Michigan to represent him. The law firm evidently was able to pull some strings. We weren't served papers until Friday night for a Monday court appearance. The first lawyer my daughter talked to wanted a 20K US retainer just to show up. Luckily, I have some friends in law as well. I eventually found a very aggressive young woman lawyer who will represent us tomorrow. I still have to come up with a six K retainer, but that's better than twenty K. I think the Brits and their social welfare state should go directly to hell. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Can we please let the merits of the case and the two court systems be and just wish Paul luck? I'm sure it won't do him any good to get into a flamosophical discussion about what's right and good. We can do nothing about his situation except to support him. We can be a hurtful bunch though, if we choose. Good luck Paul. Cory - Original Message - From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: Re: OT: Wish Me Luck John Francis wrote: It's not a travesty - it's a problem with two different systems interacting. If this were being tried in a UK court the legal aid system would provide a lawyer for the plaintiff, but it wouldn't necessarily provide a lawyer from the most expensive firm in town (or, at any rate, it wouldn't pay him any more than the regulation fee it would provide to any lawyer). But when the jurisdiction is overseas it gets more complicated. The system obviously errs on the side of providing better service, rather than leaving the rights of a British citizen in the hands of lawyers who might be unfamiliar with the complications of a trans-national case. That seems to me to be the correct thing to do. And while I'm sure Paul is being truthful in his assessment of the merits of the case that doesn't mean the case shouldn't be brought - the law should be available to everyone (even alcoholic drug dealers). And there is at least enough of a case here for it to be brought to trial; a minor child has been taken from the home of a British parent and taken to a foreign country. Misleading! As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and both are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents. keith whaley The legal guardianship of that child is in dispute, and that can only be settled in court. On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:51:53PM -0400, Jim King wrote: What a travesty to make of the legal system! Good luck, and may your lawyer tie them in knots! Regards, Jim BTW, can you recover your legal fees if, as hoped, the judge tosses the case out of court? It seems to me that there should be some penalty for bringing a case without merit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/732 - Release Date: 3/24/2007 4:36 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Mar 26, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Cotty wrote: . If what you say is true, and I'm sure it is, then you have nothing to worry about. -- Other than the six thousand dollars that I have to come up with. But as I said, I appreciate your support. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Of course! Best luck to you, Grace and your daughter. I think usually the mother has far better chances to keep the child than the father, even when there's no true reason for that. In your case, the father should truly be hopeless. Dario - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:51 AM Subject: OT: Wish Me Luck The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time drug dealer who lives near Edinburg, Scotland. But like all citizens of the Uk, he's entitled to free legal aid. So when my daughter, who was tired of being beaten and locked in an apartment, fled Scotland with Grace, he sought legal aid. He doesn't really want Grace. He wants to punish my daughter for leaving him. But the UK legal aid system is monstrous. They were able to retain the best law firm in Michigan to represent him. The law firm evidently was able to pull some strings. We weren't served papers until Friday night for a Monday court appearance. The first lawyer my daughter talked to wanted a 20K US retainer just to show up. Luckily, I have some friends in law as well. I eventually found a very aggressive young woman lawyer who will represent us tomorrow. I still have to come up with a six K retainer, but that's better than twenty K. I think the Brits and their social welfare state should go directly to hell. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi Paul I'm with Cotty here and can not believe that any law could force Grace to leave the United states and her mother. The judges will decide in favor of Grace. I wish you all the power and luck you need. Greetings Markus Our legal aid system is not perfect - far from it - but it does give everyone a fair crack at the legal whip. If what you say is true, and I'm sure it is, then you have nothing to worry about. -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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While I agree that this happens all too often, sometimes the little guys *do* win. This one took on BASF. http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=581631 -P keith_w wrote: When did that nicety show up in the U.S. jurisprudence system? Almost without exception, you get a FAR better deal, and a more fair deal, if you can afford the high priced law firms to take your case. Unfortunately, I've seen the reverse happen too often, as well, where the bad guys who can afford high priced representation get off scot-free. Nevertheless, if the average person in legal trouble can afford it, his chances of ending up with a more reasonable decision are increased in direct proportion to his ability to pay for assistance. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I really hope all goes well for ya'll Paul Xing fingers Dave On 3/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time drug dealer who lives near Edinburg, Scotland. But like all citizens of the Uk, he's entitled to free legal aid. So when my daughter, who was tired of being beaten and locked in an apartment, fled Scotland with Grace, he sought legal aid. He doesn't really want Grace. He wants to punish my daughter for leaving him. But the UK legal aid system is monstrous. They were able to retain the best law firm in Michigan to represent him. The law firm evidently was able to pull some strings. We weren't served papers until Friday night for a Monday court appearance. The first lawyer my daughter talked to wanted a 20K US retainer just to show up. Luckily, I have some friends in law as well. I eventually found a very aggressive young woman lawyer who will represent us tomorrow. I still have to come up with a six K retainer, but that's better than twenty K. I think the Brits and their social welfare state should go directly to hell. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: Our legal aid system is not perfect - far from it - but it does give everyone a fair crack at the legal whip. If what you say is true, and I'm sure it is, then you have nothing to worry about. Paul, I know someone who is going through a situation very much like your own right now. In fact, the situation is *eeriely* like your own: His doughter has a child whose father is an umenployed alchoholic, etc., etc. and a child custody battle is in progress (though both parents are in the U.S.). Remember, the courts, at least at first, have no choice but to assume both parents are equally deserving of custody until evidence to the contrary is presented. It's unpleasant and expensive but I'm confident you'll prevail. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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keith_w wrote on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:58:07 -0800: (snip) Misleading! As I understand it, that child is in the custody of the mother, and both are currently living with blood relatives. It's not as tho' it were kidnapped to a foreign country by non-parents. Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having to do more with malice than with equity. The legal system needs to filter out cases without merit before allowing charges or a tort to be brought, and there should be consequences for those bringing baseless cases before the court. Our system seems to reward lawyers for such behavior. But then, I'm not a lawyer; what do I know? Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I feel I know Grace, so hearing this makes me angry. Judging from the facts I have I don't give the scumbag much of a chance in court. But you should not have to deal with this. All the stress a situation like this causes. Please keep me informed Paul, on or off list. One little idea Paul. Bring the picture of Grace and you mom to the lawyer. Used the right way it could influence the court decision. It makes a very strong statement saying that Grace is taken well care off where she is. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 26. mars 2007 01:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Wish Me Luck The nightmare had become reality. Late Friday a United States Marshall came to our front door with legal papers served for Grace's father. He's an unemployed alcoholic, part-time drug dealer who lives near Edinburg, Scotland. But like all citizens of the Uk, he's entitled to free legal aid. So when my daughter, who was tired of being beaten and locked in an apartment, fled Scotland with Grace, he sought legal aid. He doesn't really want Grace. He wants to punish my daughter for leaving him. But the UK legal aid system is monstrous. They were able to retain the best law firm in Michigan to represent him. The law firm evidently was able to pull some strings. We weren't served papers until Friday night for a Monday court appearance. The first lawyer my daughter talked to wanted a 20K US retainer just to show up. Luckily, I have some friends in law as well. I eventually found a very aggressive young woman lawyer who will represent us tomorrow. I still have to come up with a six K retainer, but that's better than twenty K. I think the Brits and their social welfare state should go directly to hell. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 3/26/2007 9:07:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Exactly! My problem is that one can apparently be brought into court, requiring expensive legal representation, for reasons having to do more with malice than with equity. The legal system needs to filter out cases without merit before allowing charges or a tort to be brought, and there should be consequences for those bringing baseless cases before the court. Our system seems to reward lawyers for such behavior. But then, I'm not a lawyer; what do I know? Regards, Jim === And how would they filter out cases without merit? They'd have to hear both sides. In other words, that is what bringing things into court does. Marnie aka Doe ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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This thread did not show up until just now, strange. Anyway, the best of luck to you, your daughter, and granddaughter in this matter, Paul. -graywolf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Of course you could live somewhere where a simple allegation would get you tossed into prison for several years with your property confiscated. Sort of like they now do to alleged drug dealers here in the US. But Marnie is correct. That is the purpose of a court of law, to determine the facts in the case. The judgment actually should be a separate and disconnected venue, but we never got quite that enlightened. And unfortunately miscarriages of justice happen all to often. --graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how would they filter out cases without merit? They'd have to hear both sides. In other words, that is what bringing things into court does. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
