Re: z1p and M lenses
Alexey, If you recall the recent discussion about spinning dials to set apertures, you will realize that your non "A" lenses will mean you have to turn the aperture ring. This means that the HyperProgram and HyperManual modes will not work. You will have Manual and Aperture Priority metering modes. All in all, still a very capable outfit. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, January 09, 2002, 2:58:41 PM, you wrote: AT> Hello AT> I'm considering buying z1p as my mx's are sometimes not quite AT> convenient in fast street shooting where aperture priority mode AT> and spot metering would be very welcome. But as majority of my lens AT> setup consists of M lenses - I wonder which features of z1p I would AT> miss on them besides matrix metering (and AF & other obvious things;) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Alexey Tikhonov wrote: > Hello > > I'm considering buying z1p as my mx's are sometimes not quite > convenient in fast street shooting where aperture priority mode > and spot metering would be very welcome. But as majority of my lens > setup consists of M lenses - I wonder which features of z1p I would > miss on them besides matrix metering (and AF & other obvious things;) Shutter priority won't work, and most important, Hyper Program mode won't work either. I think Hyper Manual might also need A lenses. As for the MX not being good for street shooting, it's interesting you say that. I sold my PZ-1 last year, after about a year of not using it. I had been (and continue) using an MX. The finder if brighter, focusing is faster (because you don't have to care about where an AF sensor falls, and can focus anywhere in the frame) and exposure is OK, if you meter the pavement it each time you turn a corner or the light changes a lot. The camera is also small an unobtrusive. (Although this is more of a psicological factor than anything else.) j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
Alexey, Spot metering is only available with the A, F, and FA lenses, not the M or K's. You would be using center weighted metering. Bob S > I'm considering buying z1p as my mx's are > sometimes not quite convenient in fast street > shooting where aperture priority mode and > spot metering would be very welcome. But as > majority of my lens setup consists of M > lenses - I wonder which features of z1p I > would miss on them besides matrix metering > (and AF & other obvious things;) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
I'm pretty sure spot metering is availble with M and K lense, it is only multi segment metering that doesnt work. Paul - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: Re: z1p and M lenses > Alexey, > > Spot metering is only available with the A, F, and FA lenses, not the M or K's. You would be using center weighted metering. > > Bob S > > > I'm considering buying z1p as my mx's are > > sometimes not quite convenient in fast street > > shooting where aperture priority mode and > > spot metering would be very welcome. But as > > majority of my lens setup consists of M > > lenses - I wonder which features of z1p I > > would miss on them besides matrix metering > > (and AF & other obvious things;) > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
Yes - and you will still have focus confirmation with the light and beep. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Alexey Tikhonov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: z1p and M lenses > Alexey, > > If you recall the recent discussion about spinning dials to set > apertures, you will realize that your non "A" lenses will mean you > have to turn the aperture ring. This means that the HyperProgram and > HyperManual modes will not work. You will have Manual and Aperture > Priority metering modes. All in all, still a very capable outfit. > > > Bruce Dayton > > > > Wednesday, January 09, 2002, 2:58:41 PM, you wrote: > > AT> Hello > > AT> I'm considering buying z1p as my mx's are sometimes not quite > AT> convenient in fast street shooting where aperture priority mode > AT> and spot metering would be very welcome. But as majority of my lens > AT> setup consists of M lenses - I wonder which features of z1p I would > AT> miss on them besides matrix metering (and AF & other obvious things;) > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
Paul, Thanks for the correction. I just did a quick check of a PZ-1p and an M lens. The display icons for spot metering and center metering can be activated, but not the matrix metering one. With A lenses, I can activate all three modes. And I think the camera is responding to these modes appropriately. I was surprised with the PZ-1 (not p). It showed the spot metering icon with the M lenses but didn't seem to do much different. After I joined this list, I learned that spot metering is available on the PZ-1 ONLY with A series lenses or better. Looks like that is different on the PZ-1p. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I'm pretty sure spot metering is availble with M and K lense, it is only multi segment metering that doesnt work. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > Spot metering is only available with the A, F, and FA lenses, not the M or K's. You >would be using center weighted metering. > You can use spot metering with the M or K series lenses. You also get focus confirmation. What you lose is matrix metering. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
on 1/9/02 20:33, Alan Chan opined: > I don't see why a simple spot meter requires 'A' contacts. Might have something to do with the exposure calculations in spot mode needing to know the focal length and focus distance of the lens to weight the reading. Or not... He's baaack! JoMac, Pentaxian "Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh, Pentax" above the rest. k t, s e n Living life aw o yet parallel to, and r ever so slightly o u t---> f - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
A simple spot meter does not require "contacts". A proper spot meter does not "weigh" anything. It should just give you an exposure that gives the same density for the measured item you would get were a gray card measured. Point it at snow and you get 18% gray snow. Point it at a black tux - poof! your man wears light charcoal! Of course his face is totally washed out. Point it at the tux, then the white shirt, split the difference and you get something printable. Using a spot meter can be tricky when you start out. Regards, Bob... "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event." - Samuel Adams, 1771 - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Re: z1p and M lenses > on 1/9/02 20:33, Alan Chan opined: > > > I don't see why a simple spot meter requires 'A' contacts. > > Might have something to do with the exposure calculations in spot mode > needing to know the focal length and focus distance of the lens to weight > the reading. > > Or not... He's baaack! > > JoMac, Pentaxian >"Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh, Pentax" > > above the rest. > k t, > s e n > Living life aw o > yet parallel to, and r > ever so slightly o u t---> f > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
Definitely. :) Welcome. At 06:03 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:22:46 -0800 >From: Joseph McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: z1p and M lenses > > >Or not... He's baaack! * I know what I'm doing." Picard, "Star Trek: First Contact" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: z1p and M lenses
on 1/10/02 16:53, Collin Brendemuehl opined: > Definitely. :) > Welcome. > > At 06:03 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote: >> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:22:46 -0800 >> From: Joseph McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: z1p and M lenses >> >> >> Or not... He's baaack! Then: > I know what I'm doing." > Picard, "Star Trek: First Contact" and now spoken nightly by Howard Stern in his self agrandizing promo... Thank you Collin... Blakely, thanks for expanding on my "or not" thoughts. :o JoMac, Pentaxian "Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh, Pentax" above the rest. k t, s e n Living life aw o yet parallel to, and r ever so slightly o u t---> f - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: z1p and M lenses
Thanks a lot to all that answered. After some statistics calculations being done I decided that spotmetering should defenitely work on M-lenses;) Thanks again, -- Best regards, Alexey Tikhonov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
