Re: Looking for a K10D ...

[Adam Maas]

Thibouille wrote:
> Well Belgium is quite small. In fact, 2 hours by train and I'm in
> Cologne, Germany so It's quite easy to move a bit. Brussels is in the
> center so about 150-200 kilometers in each direction and you change
> country ;)
> 
> The problem without car is that, if the shop is outside of the city,
> it serves no purpose if I need moreover to walk 2 kilometers... (this
> is the case, there is a shop in Turnhout with K10D in stock but
> exterior of the town so...).
> 

Western Europe is quite small ;-)

You can put Europe from the Polish border west into the Province I live 
in, with space to spare.

-Adam

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Re: OT - spell checker

[David J Brooks]

Whats a spell checker

Dave

Quoting Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> So every time I send an email to the list with knarf's name in it,
> Thunderbird wants to change "theriault" to "diphtherias" which I find
> kinda humorous.  frank, you feeling ok? :-)
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[DagT]

OK, so I´m not a hi-fi buff. I didn´t say I was.

I don´t  know much about glass compositions either, but I still love  
a good photograph and even a good lens.

DagT

Den 2. jan. 2007 kl. 19.08 skrev J. C. O'Connell:

> I am a listener too, MOSFET isnt a strange
> word (to me), and I didnt learn about it from a brochure
> either, I have been involved in electronics
> design since I was about 10 years old and knew
> thru work experience as well as my hi-fi hobby.
> Anyone who still has never heard of a MOSFET cant really
> be much of a hi-fi buff, period. They are just too
> common and have been so, for very long in that field.
> jco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of
> DagT
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> Subject: Re: OT: Occupations?
>
>
> Some of us audiophiles are interested in listening more than looking
> at strange words .-)
>
> DagT (who knew from education, not from brochures)
>
> Den 2. jan. 2007 kl. 17.45 skrev J. C. O'Connell:
>
>> You guys are obviously not hi-fi enthusiasts.
>> Those have been used in some audio amps for
>> decades.
>> jco
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of
>> David Savage
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:40 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: OT: Occupations?
>>
>>
>> Metal Oxide Semiconductor Field-Effect Transistor
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET
>>
>> Aren't you glad you asked. :-)
>>
>> Dave (I had no idea either)
>>
>> At 01:28 AM 3/01/2007, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>> What's a MOSFET?
>>>
>>> Shel
>>>
>>>
>>>
 [Original Message]
 From: Mat Maessen
>>>
  I can tell you [...] how to properly bias MOSFETs though
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Re: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Bronek Kozicki wrote:

> The fact is I'm just losing patience seeing
> discussion that could end up like whining "when Pentax will finally
> release full frame camera?!". There is no "full frame" to start with,
> it's just 135 format called by a different name invented by Canon
> marketing. And we, Pentax users, have some excellent "digital"  
> lenses to
> enjoy that no other system has, now move on.

My feelings exactly.

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Brendan MacRae]

Ahh, my first engineering class was titled,
"Controlling the Human environment." I remember the
professor was about 110 years old and he was a chain
smoker who had advanced emphysema. He delighted in
telling us the kinds of things people flushed down
their toilets and how they are dealt with.

Then he'd laugh which would make him cough up part of
his lungs.

-Brendan
--- Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK
> 
> Recently retired civil engineer - spent most of my
> working life designing sewage treatment plants.
> 
> (Hey to repeat an oft quoted phrase in the
> industry - "it might be shit to you but it's my
> bread and butter".)
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> 
> 
> Quoting Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months
> now, and I'm aware
> > of
> > some of your occupations...  however some of you
> are a mystery to
> > me.
> > I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)
> > 
> > Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a
> elementary special
> > education
> > teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just
> starting out
> > back
> > in my hometown after a year teaching in
> Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's
> > never
> > dull in Hull!), England , and then two years
> teaching in northern
> > Alberta.
> > 
> > Anyone care to share?
> > 
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Re: OT - spell checker

[Bob Shell]

On Jan 2, 2007, at 1:15 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Whats a spell checker

Software for witches.

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Bob Sullivan]

Tom,
Sounds like you're the Professional A/V Guy...
Regards,  Bob S.

On 1/2/07, Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am my districts guy that runs around setting up and teaching teachers
> how to use things like electronic interactive whiteboards, LCD
> projectors, streaming video, all the technology stuff that takes place
> at the front of the modern classroom, and teaching them how to
> seamlessly integrate it with other instructional methods. My way of
> escaping (most of the way) the high school classroom and the ulcers that
> go with it.
>
> -Tom
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > What is "instructional technology?"
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Tom Simpson
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Social studies teacher / school district instructional technology
> >> specialist.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: PESO - Hygenic Dog Food Company

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Isn't "Hygenic Dog Food" an oxymoron?  Most canines like to muss it up
a bit before eating, and they certainly seem to prefer disgusting
stinking objects they find outside to gourmet food prepared by their
human servants.

On 12/31/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/hygenic_df.html
>
> Saw this while taking a "short cut" this afternoon.  I may go back with a
> tripod and photograph the scene a little earlier in the day.  I like the
> overcast light, though.
>
>
> Shel
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Re: Do it yourself pano head

[Kenneth Waller]

> Just take two shots with a wide angle lens in a confined space by
> rotating on the spot and attempt to stitch them

What kind of camera to subject distance are we talking about here?

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: Do it yourself pano head


> On 02/01/07, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Dave
>> since I only will make flat panoramas made out of 3-6 shots and not 360
>> degree round ones I would love to see the difference in a panorama with 
>> and
>> without nodal point adjustment of the camera for my requirements . Has
>> anybody a link or selfmade panoramas with a comparison?
>> Gratulations for your self made head from somebody with "two left hands" 
>> :-)
>
> Just take two shots with a wide angle lens in a confined space by
> rotating on the spot and attempt to stitch them, it's no fun. Do the
> same thing using a pano head with the correct offset dialed in and
> stitching will be very easy.
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PESO - Breaking through

[Bruce Dayton]

I was taking an early morning walk while in Utah (brisk 20 degrees)
and was able to capture this plane just before it went over the
mountain.  The trail lit up and seeming to burst from the cloud are
what really caught my attention.

Pentax K10D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld
ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4198a.htm

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Re: OT - spell checker

[K.Takeshita]

On Jan 2, 2007, at 1:15 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Whats a spell checker

A tool to add your own spelling so that it won't bother you again.  All you
need is just an "add" button.

Ken


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RE: Occupations?

[Tim Øsleby]

I'm a professional trouble solver aka social worker. 

I work with misbehaving youngsters, so it is hard to distinguish my
professional life from my list life ;-)

The serious answer is that I am a social worker with a work field that is
pretty hard to explain with just a few words.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
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Sent: 2. januar 2007 07:18
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Subject: OT: Occupations?

I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of
some of your occupations...  however some of you are a mystery to me.
I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)

Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a elementary special education
teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just starting out back
in my hometown after a year teaching in Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's never
dull in Hull!), England , and then two years teaching in northern
Alberta.

Anyone care to share?

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[David J Brooks]

Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 1/2/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Anyone care to share?
>
> Well, I'll combine my educational background, such as it is, with my
> work background (since I've already read down the thread to see that
> people have started talking about how their education did (or didn't)
> match their current careers.  Suffice to say that mine doesn't (or
> didn't).
>
> BA majoring in Philosophy.

Well, that certainly clears up a lot of things.

LOL

Dave
>
> Law degree.
>
> 10 years as a litigation lawyer.
>
> 10 years as a bike messenger here in Toronto.
>
> 18 months as a bike dispatcher, which I'm currently doing (as we
> speak, in fact).
>
> Here I am.
>
> cheers,
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Kenneth Waller]

> I get raked over the coals on a daily basis by people who don't know
> any better and by people who definitely know better but like torturing
> me..

Sounds like some listers here on the PDML.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: OT: Occupations?


> On 1/2/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of
>> some of your occupations...  however some of you are a mystery to me.
>> I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)
>>
>> Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a elementary special education
>> teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just starting out back
>> in my hometown after a year teaching in Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's never
>> dull in Hull!), England , and then two years teaching in northern
>> Alberta.
>>
>> Anyone care to share?
>>
> I get raked over the coals on a daily basis by people who don't know
> any better and by people who definitely know better but like torturing
> me..
> 
> Er, I work in technical support for the local telecom.
> 
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Re: Occupations?

[Kenneth Waller]

>" I'm a Brazilian Waxing Consultant".

Ever waxed poetic?

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: RE: Occupations?


>> 
>> I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware
> of
>> some of your occupations...  however some of you are a mystery to
> me.
>> I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)
>> 
>> Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a elementary special
> education
>> teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just starting out back
>> in my hometown after a year teaching in Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's
> never
>> dull in Hull!), England , and then two years teaching in northern
>> Alberta.
>> 
>> Anyone care to share?
>> 
> 
> I'm a Brazilian Waxing Consultant.
> 
> In my spare time I'm an IT manager for an enormous bank.
> 
> Bob
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I'm an attorney, doing mostly real estate, land use and business law
and litigation.

Dan M

On 1/2/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of
> some of your occupations...  however some of you are a mystery to me.
> I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)
>
> Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a elementary special education
> teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just starting out back
> in my hometown after a year teaching in Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's never
> dull in Hull!), England , and then two years teaching in northern
> Alberta.
>
> Anyone care to share?
>
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Re: Do it yourself pano head

[Kenneth Waller]

> Use a WA lens in portrait mode and combine near and far field objects
> in the shoot and you'll have all sorts of problems regardless of the
> software.

I'll take your word for that, as all my panos have been distant subjects, 
probably no closer than 50 ft. & mostly around 50mm, none with DA lenses.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: Do it yourself pano head


> On 02/01/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've had pretty much the same experience - I've shot panos both on a 
>> leveled
>> tripod & handheld & have experienced no problems getting panoramaker to
>> stitch them together.
>
> Use a WA lens in portrait mode and combine near and far field objects
> in the shoot and you'll have all sorts of problems regardless of the
> software. This is particularly the case when using some of the new DA
> zooms, their nodal point at the widest setting is very close to the
> front element.
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RE: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[J. C. O'Connell]

I disagree. FF digital format is simply
24x36mm sensor. Its just as valid as
APS digital, maybe even more so because
the registration distance on most DSLRs
today is just a left over from FF body designs
so they could use legacy lenses and is
not very efficient for the APS format.
jco

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On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Bronek Kozicki wrote:

> The fact is I'm just losing patience seeing
> discussion that could end up like whining "when Pentax will finally 
> release full frame camera?!". There is no "full frame" to start with, 
> it's just 135 format called by a different name invented by Canon 
> marketing. And we, Pentax users, have some excellent "digital"
> lenses to
> enjoy that no other system has, now move on.

My feelings exactly.

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Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)

[Margus Männik]

Hi,

depends on the lenses you have. Camera body without lenses is totally 
useless. So, this leap can also be a total disaster, especially if you 
like to shoot with wide-angles. I am really not a fan of anti-vignetting 
and selective sharpening softwares...
So, for me FF=film=for quality and APS=digital=for versatility. Z-1p and 
K10D. At least as long as they sell and process film.

BR, Margus


J. C. O'Connell wrote:

>Jump from APS to FF sensor would be just
>as large or possibly even larger leap
>than istD to K10D.
>jco
>
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>Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>
>
>It's eat your hat time again.  I think we have plateaued (?) with regard
>
>to DSLR functionality, and further improvements will be incremental.   
>Certainly nothing like the leap from the *ist D to the K10D.
>
>John
>
>
>
>On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:52:49 -, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>wrote:
>
>  
>
>>4-5 years?
>>I expect development to be accelerating. As the *ist has become 
>>somewhat obsolete in 2-3 years, I expect huge improvements every two-3
>>
>>
>years -
>  
>
>>enough
>>to make me want to upgrade every two-three years!
>>Regards
>>
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>>Greeting Card: 
>>http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/godtnytaarshow.html
>>
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>>+45 23 43 85 77
>>Skype: jensbladt248
>>
>>-Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af 
>>P.
>>J.
>>Alling
>>Sendt: 1. januar 2007 18:46
>>Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Emne: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>>
>>
>>Yes, however if you buy a k10D you'll be set for 4-5 years.  I expect 
>>that they'll be selling to high volume wedding photographers.  This 
>>looks like a perfect camera for them.
>>
>>Joseph Tainter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sony is supposed to come with an FF sensor and camera in 2007 
>>>(supposedly first part of 2007).
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>Is anyone else thinking that this is something to consider when 
>>>deciding whether to buy one of the very expensive forthcoming DA* 
>>>zooms, or any other expensive DA lens?
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>  
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Re: Occupations?

[Kenneth Waller]

I'm a recently retired (after 40 yrs.) Automotive engineer (degreed in 
Mechanical engineering) from one of the big three. Worked in design, 
development & manufacturing, mainly light trucks but also some cars. My last 
position was in design analysis - I handled technical issues involving legal 
claims against the company.
I now am an independent contractor doing Expert witness work on automotive 
litigation.

Probably TMI
Kenneth Waller

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> I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of
> some of your occupations...  however some of you are a mystery to me.
> I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)
>
> Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a elementary special education
> teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just starting out back
> in my hometown after a year teaching in Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's never
> dull in Hull!), England , and then two years teaching in northern
> Alberta.
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> Anyone care to share?
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Re: PESO - Breaking through

[rg2]

oh wow that's such a great picture 

rg2

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:11 PM
Subject: PESO - Breaking through


>I was taking an early morning walk while in Utah (brisk 20 degrees)
> and was able to capture this plane just before it went over the
> mountain.  The trail lit up and seeming to burst from the cloud are
> what really caught my attention.
> 
> Pentax K10D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4198a.htm
> 
> Comments welcome
> 
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Re: 2006 PDML quotations list: Part 2

[John Francis]

On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 08:15:58AM -0500, David J Brooks wrote:
> Quoting Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> I need a life.
> >
> > Take Frank's.
> 
> I don't look good in bunny ears.:-)

Nor does Frank ...


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Re: PESO - Breaking through

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jan 2, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> I was taking an early morning walk while in Utah (brisk 20 degrees)
> and was able to capture this plane just before it went over the
> mountain.  The trail lit up and seeming to burst from the cloud are
> what really caught my attention.
>
> Pentax K10D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4198a.htm

Nice! It needs to be bigger... ! :-)

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 01:08:22AM +1100, Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 03/01/07, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I wonder how many of us are doing what our education prepared us
> > for?  In my case I majored in zoology
> 
> I'm an engineer, now engaged in child care!

My degree is in Mathematics & Computer Science, so I guess
I've followed the expected path.  Not that that is too much
of a surprise - ever since I encountered my first computer
(when I was 15 or so) I've know what I wanted to do.


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Re: OT: Occupations?

[John Francis]

Mike Hamilton wrote:
> I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of
> some of your occupations...  however some of you are a mystery to me.
> I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)
> 
> Anyone care to share?

Software Engineer, currently working on software for the airline
industry (flight schedules, etc.), but with a graphics background.
Born and educated in the UK, but now residing in Silicon Valley.


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RE: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)

[J. C. O'Connell]

you cant judge a CAMERA BODY
by the worst lenses out there for it,
you have to judge it on its
own merit, and that would be
what it can do with the BEST
lenses available. Secondly, I
dont think its smart to "throw
out" all improvement you can
get with semi-wide to ultra long
lenses just because SOME 
wide angles dont do so well
on the FF camera. Ultra wide angle
photography has always been
a problem for small formats
anyway, there just isnt enough
resolution for fine details
and everything is rendered
very small on wide and ultra wide
relatively speaking.
jco

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Margus Männik
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:36 PM
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Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)


Hi,

depends on the lenses you have. Camera body without lenses is totally 
useless. So, this leap can also be a total disaster, especially if you 
like to shoot with wide-angles. I am really not a fan of anti-vignetting

and selective sharpening softwares...
So, for me FF=film=for quality and APS=digital=for versatility. Z-1p and

K10D. At least as long as they sell and process film.

BR, Margus


J. C. O'Connell wrote:

>Jump from APS to FF sensor would be just
>as large or possibly even larger leap
>than istD to K10D.
>jco
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

>John Forbes
>Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:15 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>
>
>It's eat your hat time again.  I think we have plateaued (?) with 
>regard
>
>to DSLR functionality, and further improvements will be incremental.   
>Certainly nothing like the leap from the *ist D to the K10D.
>
>John
>
>
>
>On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:52:49 -, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>wrote:
>
>  
>
>>4-5 years?
>>I expect development to be accelerating. As the *ist has become
>>somewhat obsolete in 2-3 years, I expect huge improvements every two-3
>>
>>
>years -
>  
>
>>enough
>>to make me want to upgrade every two-three years!
>>Regards
>>
>>Jens Bladt
>>Greeting Card:
>>http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/godtnytaarshow.html
>>
>>http://www.jensbladt.dk
>>+45 56 63 77 11
>>+45 23 43 85 77
>>Skype: jensbladt248
>>
>>-Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af
>>P.
>>J.
>>Alling
>>Sendt: 1. januar 2007 18:46
>>Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Emne: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>>
>>
>>Yes, however if you buy a k10D you'll be set for 4-5 years.  I expect
>>that they'll be selling to high volume wedding photographers.  This 
>>looks like a perfect camera for them.
>>
>>Joseph Tainter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sony is supposed to come with an FF sensor and camera in 2007
>>>(supposedly first part of 2007).
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>Is anyone else thinking that this is something to consider when
>>>deciding whether to buy one of the very expensive forthcoming DA* 
>>>zooms, or any other expensive DA lens?
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)

[Margus Männik]

Hi,

I don't think so. As a proffessional photographer I am ready to deal 
with vignetting and corner blur 'cause someone is paying me for that. 
The same time, as an amateur I would NEVER buy a camera that causes me 
that kind of (after-processing) pain. How many amateurs per pro in the 
world?

BR, Margus


Joseph Tainter wrote:

>Problems of using wide angle lenses on a 24 x 36 mm sensor are irrelevant. 
>


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Re: OT: Occupations?

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 01:40:19AM +0900, David Savage wrote:
> Metal Oxide Semiconductor Field-Effect Transistor
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET
> 
> Aren't you glad you asked. :-)
> 
> Dave (I had no idea either)

Bah.  Kids today ... :-)

I didn't even have to think about that one.


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RE: OT: Occupations?

[Bob W]

Chalk and a blackboard? Canes?

--
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff
> Sent: 02 January 2007 16:28
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: OT: Occupations?
> 
> What is "instructional technology?"
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Tom Simpson 
> 
> > Social studies teacher / school district instructional technology 
> > specialist.


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RE: OT: Occupations?

[J. C. O'Connell]

I just watched an old Harrison Ford movie
in HD this morning, "Mosquito Coast" where
he plays an eccentric inventor. He had a great line,
"I dropped out of Harvard to get an education".
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RE: OT: Occupations?

[Bob W]

> 
> >
> > http://www.kenrockwell.com/engagement/cayman.htm
> 
> I was eating my lunch at my desk as I looked at this one.
> 
> Don't ever do that again, Christian!
> 
> ;-)
> 

That's what embalming fluid does for the complexion.

Bob


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RE: OT: Occupations?

[Tim Øsleby]

Also used in audio systems. my little understanding is that the advantage
using them is that they are more efficient than other transistors, in other
word more power, less spill heat. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mat
Maessen
Sent: 2. januar 2007 18:00
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Subject: Re: OT: Occupations?

On 1/2/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's a MOSFET?

A type of transistor. Notably used in the amplifier stages in digital
cameras, between the CCD sites and the analog to digital converters.
Changing the bias level of a MOSFET is a common way to change the gain
of the device, which would effect a change in the ISO sensitivity of
the camera.

I could get more technical... :-)

-Mat

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[P. J. Alling]

and I thought I was the most qualified to serve as a bad example...

frank theriault wrote:
> On 1/2/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   
>> Anyone care to share?
>> 
>
> Well, I'll combine my educational background, such as it is, with my
> work background (since I've already read down the thread to see that
> people have started talking about how their education did (or didn't)
> match their current careers.  Suffice to say that mine doesn't (or
> didn't).
>
> BA majoring in Philosophy.
>
> Law degree.
>
> 10 years as a litigation lawyer.
>
> 10 years as a bike messenger here in Toronto.
>
> 18 months as a bike dispatcher, which I'm currently doing (as we
> speak, in fact).
>
> Here I am.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>   


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RE: OT: Occupations?

[Bob W]

Bob Shell wrote:
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
> 
>> Which is very, very far from what my education prepared me for...
> 
> I wonder how many of us are doing what our education prepared us  
> for?  In my case I majored in zoology

Not me. My background is language and linguistics. When I was in my
2nd year we were supposed to do a week's course in 'computer
appreciation', whatever that means. I'd never seen a computer, decided
I probably never would, and went to the pub instead. 

Sod's Law obviously kicked in - I've spent the last 27 years working
in IT.

Bob


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RE: Looking for a K10D ...

[Bob W]

> 
> Western Europe is quite small ;-)
> 
> You can put Europe from the Polish border west into the 
> Province I live 
> in, with space to spare.
> 

I don't think you'd get it through customs.

Bob


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RE: OT: Occupations?

[Tom C]

Software Engineer (Programmer, Systems Analyst, Developer or whatever they 
call us now) for 26 years.  About 3/4 of the time has been as a consultant, 
designing and/or developing business systems and applications. I currently 
work for a DRAM and CMOS sensor manufacturer customizing and enhancing SAP 
software.

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[P. J. Alling]

That portrait is so unintentionally revealing it qualifies as "Great 
Photography" in the WeeGee tradition, while being totally unlike his work.

Christian wrote:
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>   
>> Oh no, a fate *worse* than death. I can't tell you what it is but it 
>> was done to Ken Rockwell years ago and look at him now.
>>
>> 
>
> slow cooking?
>
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/engagement/cayman.htm
>
>   


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Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)

[Margus Männik]

Some? Do you see any satisfactory Pentax FF wideangle on a market? FA24 
will vignette for sure, not speaking of any wider ones. Even Canon can't 
say yet, that they have GOOD wide-angle for their 5D. 20...24mm for FF 
is not any kind of ultra-wide, so it refers to limited usability and 
needs a real solution, not just to be ignored or cheated.  Present  
lenses do not offer that and I'm pretty much aware, that instead of 
better optics next generation bodies will offer some software trick to 
hide (not correct) the problem.

BRM


J. C. O'Connell wrote:

>you cant judge a CAMERA BODY
>by the worst lenses out there for it,
>you have to judge it on its
>own merit, and that would be
>what it can do with the BEST
>lenses available. Secondly, I
>dont think its smart to "throw
>out" all improvement you can
>get with semi-wide to ultra long
>lenses just because SOME 
>wide angles dont do so well
>on the FF camera. Ultra wide angle
>photography has always been
>a problem for small formats
>anyway, there just isnt enough
>resolution for fine details
>and everything is rendered
>very small on wide and ultra wide
>relatively speaking.
>jco
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>Margus Männik
>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:36 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>
>
>Hi,
>
>depends on the lenses you have. Camera body without lenses is totally 
>useless. So, this leap can also be a total disaster, especially if you 
>like to shoot with wide-angles. I am really not a fan of anti-vignetting
>
>and selective sharpening softwares...
>So, for me FF=film=for quality and APS=digital=for versatility. Z-1p and
>
>K10D. At least as long as they sell and process film.
>
>BR, Margus
>
>
>J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Jump from APS to FF sensor would be just
>>as large or possibly even larger leap
>>than istD to K10D.
>>jco
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>John Forbes
>>Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:15 PM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>>
>>
>>It's eat your hat time again.  I think we have plateaued (?) with 
>>regard
>>
>>to DSLR functionality, and further improvements will be incremental.   
>>Certainly nothing like the leap from the *ist D to the K10D.
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:52:49 -, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>4-5 years?
>>>I expect development to be accelerating. As the *ist has become
>>>somewhat obsolete in 2-3 years, I expect huge improvements every two-3
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>years -
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>enough
>>>to make me want to upgrade every two-three years!
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Jens Bladt
>>>Greeting Card:
>>>http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/godtnytaarshow.html
>>>
>>>http://www.jensbladt.dk
>>>+45 56 63 77 11
>>>+45 23 43 85 77
>>>Skype: jensbladt248
>>>
>>>-Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>>Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af
>>>P.
>>>J.
>>>Alling
>>>Sendt: 1. januar 2007 18:46
>>>Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>Emne: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, however if you buy a k10D you'll be set for 4-5 years.  I expect
>>>that they'll be selling to high volume wedding photographers.  This 
>>>looks like a perfect camera for them.
>>>
>>>Joseph Tainter wrote:
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Sony is supposed to come with an FF sensor and camera in 2007
(supposedly first part of 2007).

-

Is anyone else thinking that this is something to consider when
deciding whether to buy one of the very expensive forthcoming DA* 
zooms, or any other expensive DA lens?

Joe


 



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Re: Sensor Cleaning

[Russell Kerstetter]

okay, thanks for all the responses, quite a few of you suggested the
pec-pad/eclipse method, so I will try that for now, and then maybe try
to find a more portable solution later.

russ

On 1/1/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a couple specks of dirt on my sensor that I cannot break free
> with only my blower (brush removed).  I have had this before, and
> persistent blowing removed the speck, but not this time.  A quick
> search on B&H showed tools ranging from $10 - $220, and one of my
> local shops charges $60 to do it for me.  What tools and/or chemicals
> do you use?  Are CCD brushes the same thing as the blower brush that I
> use for my lenses?  Thanks.
>
> Russ
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Re: Looking for a K10D ...

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't think you'd get it through customs.

Customs? Where? Most of the time, you'll hardly noticed you've crossed a
border. 

Ralf

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Re: Occupations

[Bronek Kozicki]

I'm a software developer in investment bank based in London. Moved here 
from Poland 2 years ago with wife and son, my second son was born here 
(but that does not grant him British nationality, for those curious). 
I'm also member of C++ panel in BSI and a Microsoft MVP.


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RE: PESO - Breaking through

[Tim Øsleby]

Just in the decisive moment Bruce. 
I like it very much. 


Tim
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I was taking an early morning walk while in Utah (brisk 20 degrees)
and was able to capture this plane just before it went over the
mountain.  The trail lit up and seeming to burst from the cloud are
what really caught my attention.

Pentax K10D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld
ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4198a.htm

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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Adam Maas]

Bronek Kozicki wrote:
> Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
>> images.
> 
> Leica M8 is croppped, although not APS.
> 
> 
> B.
> 

Close to APS-H actually. About as close to that as DX format is to APS-C.

-Adam

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RE: PESO - Breaking through

[pnstenquist]

Well done.
 -- Original message --
From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Just in the decisive moment Bruce. 
> I like it very much. 
> 
> 
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Bruce Dayton
> Sent: 2. januar 2007 20:11
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: PESO - Breaking through
> 
> I was taking an early morning walk while in Utah (brisk 20 degrees)
> and was able to capture this plane just before it went over the
> mountain.  The trail lit up and seeming to burst from the cloud are
> what really caught my attention.
> 
> Pentax K10D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4198a.htm
> 
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RE: OT: Occupations?

[Bill Owens]

Mike Hamilton wrote:
> I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of
> some of your occupations...  however some of you are a mystery to me.
> I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)
> 
> Anyone care to share?

Retired airline agent. Somewhat disabled after a bout with prostate cancer.

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Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)

[Adam Maas]

A 20/2.8, FA 24/2.8. FA 24/2

Plenty available.

-Adam


Margus Männik wrote:
> Some? Do you see any satisfactory Pentax FF wideangle on a market? FA24 
> will vignette for sure, not speaking of any wider ones. Even Canon can't 
> say yet, that they have GOOD wide-angle for their 5D. 20...24mm for FF 
> is not any kind of ultra-wide, so it refers to limited usability and 
> needs a real solution, not just to be ignored or cheated.  Present  
> lenses do not offer that and I'm pretty much aware, that instead of 
> better optics next generation bodies will offer some software trick to 
> hide (not correct) the problem.
> 
> BRM
> 
> 
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> 
>> you cant judge a CAMERA BODY
>> by the worst lenses out there for it,
>> you have to judge it on its
>> own merit, and that would be
>> what it can do with the BEST
>> lenses available. Secondly, I
>> dont think its smart to "throw
>> out" all improvement you can
>> get with semi-wide to ultra long
>> lenses just because SOME 
>> wide angles dont do so well
>> on the FF camera. Ultra wide angle
>> photography has always been
>> a problem for small formats
>> anyway, there just isnt enough
>> resolution for fine details
>> and everything is rendered
>> very small on wide and ultra wide
>> relatively speaking.
>> jco
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Margus Männik
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:36 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> depends on the lenses you have. Camera body without lenses is totally 
>> useless. So, this leap can also be a total disaster, especially if you 
>> like to shoot with wide-angles. I am really not a fan of anti-vignetting
>>
>> and selective sharpening softwares...
>> So, for me FF=film=for quality and APS=digital=for versatility. Z-1p and
>>
>> K10D. At least as long as they sell and process film.
>>
>> BR, Margus
>>
>>
>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Jump from APS to FF sensor would be just
>>> as large or possibly even larger leap
>>> than istD to K10D.
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>
>>>
>>  
>>
>>> John Forbes
>>> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:15 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>>>
>>>
>>> It's eat your hat time again.  I think we have plateaued (?) with 
>>> regard
>>>
>>> to DSLR functionality, and further improvements will be incremental.   
>>> Certainly nothing like the leap from the *ist D to the K10D.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:52:49 -, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 4-5 years?
 I expect development to be accelerating. As the *ist has become
 somewhat obsolete in 2-3 years, I expect huge improvements every two-3
   

  

>>> years -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 enough
 to make me want to upgrade every two-three years!
 Regards

 Jens Bladt
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 Yes, however if you buy a k10D you'll be set for 4-5 years.  I expect
 that they'll be selling to high volume wedding photographers.  This 
 looks like a perfect camera for them.

 Joseph Tainter wrote:
   

  

> Sony is supposed to come with an FF sensor and camera in 2007
> (supposedly first part of 2007).
>
> -
>
> Is anyone else thinking that this is something to consider when
> deciding whether to buy one of the very expensive forthcoming DA* 
> zooms, or any other expensive DA lens?
>
> Joe
>
>
> 
>
>
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Mark Roberts]

Mark Roberts wrote:

>David J Brooks wrote:
>
>>For 28 years, i was a Party Chief
>
>In charge of bringing the beer?

...or did you work in the Kremlin?


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RE: OT: Occupations?

[J. C. O'Connell]

No, that's not really the main difference between them
and conventional bipolar transisitors, the main difference
with MOSFETS or FETS in general is that voltage changes on the input
essentially control current changes on the output, similar
to the way vacuum tubes operate (transconductance devices), whereas
bipolar transistors
use current changes on the input to control current changes
on the output (current amplifying devices).
jco

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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:21 PM
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Subject: RE: OT: Occupations?


Also used in audio systems. my little understanding is that the
advantage using them is that they are more efficient than other
transistors, in other word more power, less spill heat. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Sent: 2. januar 2007 18:00
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On 1/2/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's a MOSFET?

A type of transistor. Notably used in the amplifier stages in digital
cameras, between the CCD sites and the analog to digital converters.
Changing the bias level of a MOSFET is a common way to change the gain
of the device, which would effect a change in the ISO sensitivity of the
camera.

I could get more technical... :-)

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RE: Looking for a K10D ...

[Bob W]

> 
> > I don't think you'd get it through customs.
> 
> Customs? Where? Most of the time, you'll hardly noticed 
> you've crossed a
> border. 
> 

Not the camera - Western Europe. Some Canadian wanted to put it in his
province.

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also used in audio systems. my little understanding is that the advantage
> using them is that they are more efficient than other transistors, in other
> word more power, less spill heat.

MOSFET power devices are often used in the output stages of amplifiers
(audio, motor control, heating control etc) that maybe subject to
abuse as the devices characteristics when overload occurs are
inherently self limiting to a point (unlike conventional bi-polar
transistors which can suffer a self destructive failure called thermal
runaway).

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RE: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)

[J. C. O'Connell]

Excuse me but 35mm focal lenght lenses
are wide angles and there are a whole
bunch of them that are fantastic.

As far as wider goes, I already just
stated, that small formats like APS
and FF ( film and digital ) are not
very good for wide angle photography
especially compared to medium and large
format.

Vignetting is not the problem, that
can easily be corrected, the problem
is low resolution of the lenses at
extreme wide angles in corners that is overcome
by large formats but not by small
ones like aps and ff 35mm.

jco

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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)


Some? Do you see any satisfactory Pentax FF wideangle on a market? FA24 
will vignette for sure, not speaking of any wider ones. Even Canon can't

say yet, that they have GOOD wide-angle for their 5D. 20...24mm for FF 
is not any kind of ultra-wide, so it refers to limited usability and 
needs a real solution, not just to be ignored or cheated.  Present  
lenses do not offer that and I'm pretty much aware, that instead of 
better optics next generation bodies will offer some software trick to 
hide (not correct) the problem.

BRM


J. C. O'Connell wrote:

>you cant judge a CAMERA BODY
>by the worst lenses out there for it,
>you have to judge it on its
>own merit, and that would be
>what it can do with the BEST
>lenses available. Secondly, I
>dont think its smart to "throw
>out" all improvement you can
>get with semi-wide to ultra long
>lenses just because SOME
>wide angles dont do so well
>on the FF camera. Ultra wide angle
>photography has always been
>a problem for small formats
>anyway, there just isnt enough
>resolution for fine details
>and everything is rendered
>very small on wide and ultra wide
>relatively speaking.
>jco
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

>Margus Männik
>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:36 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>
>
>Hi,
>
>depends on the lenses you have. Camera body without lenses is totally
>useless. So, this leap can also be a total disaster, especially if you 
>like to shoot with wide-angles. I am really not a fan of
anti-vignetting
>
>and selective sharpening softwares...
>So, for me FF=film=for quality and APS=digital=for versatility. Z-1p 
>and
>
>K10D. At least as long as they sell and process film.
>
>BR, Margus
>
>
>J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Jump from APS to FF sensor would be just
>>as large or possibly even larger leap
>>than istD to K10D.
>>jco
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>Of
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>John Forbes
>>Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:15 PM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>>
>>
>>It's eat your hat time again.  I think we have plateaued (?) with
>>regard
>>
>>to DSLR functionality, and further improvements will be incremental.

>>Certainly nothing like the leap from the *ist D to the K10D.
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:52:49 -, Jens Bladt 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>4-5 years?
>>>I expect development to be accelerating. As the *ist has become 
>>>somewhat obsolete in 2-3 years, I expect huge improvements every 
>>>two-3
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>years -
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>enough
>>>to make me want to upgrade every two-three years!
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Jens Bladt
>>>Greeting Card: 
>>>http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/godtnytaarshow.html
>>>
>>>http://www.jensbladt.dk
>>>+45 56 63 77 11
>>>+45 23 43 85 77
>>>Skype: jensbladt248
>>>
>>>-Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>>Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af 
>>>P. J.
>>>Alling
>>>Sendt: 1. januar 2007 18:46
>>>Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>Emne: Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, however if you buy a k10D you'll be set for 4-5 years.  I expect

>>>that they'll be selling to high volume wedding photographers.  This 
>>>looks like a perfect camera for them.
>>>
>>>Joseph Tainter wrote:
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Sony is supposed to come with an FF sensor and camera in 2007 
(supposedly first part of 2007).

-

Is anyone else thinking that this is something to consider when 
deciding whether to buy one of the very expensive forthcoming DA* 
zooms, or any other expensive DA lens?

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Re: Occupations

[Margus Männik]

I'm an engineer of electronics working for one of the largest mobile 
phone manufacturer. Plus a freelance photographer / journalist to remain 
sense :)

BR, Margus


Charles Wilson wrote:

>Dear All,
>
>I work as a CEO of a Christian charity, and work part as a marriage 
>counsellor and a psychologist.
>
>Regards
>
>
>Charles Wilson
>Sydney Australia 
>
>
>
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Frits Wüthrich]

Electronics Engineer, more specifically project leader Test and Product 
Engineering at an IC Semiconductor company, I need to make sure my team 
develops the testprogram for the IC that is being designed by the IC 
designers, so the IC can be tested once everything is ready for 
manufacturing.

Started at KPN (state telecom company back then) for 9 years, teacher at a 
technical school - 2 years, Lucent technologies for 18 years, and now the 
above job since a little over one year.

Frits Wüthrich

On Tuesday 02 January 2007 15:27, wendy beard wrote:
> Electronics Engineer. More specifically, IC design.
>
> Wendy
>
> On 1/2/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of
> > some of your occupations...  however some of you are a mystery to me.
> > I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :)
> >
> > Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a elementary special education
> > teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just starting out back
> > in my hometown after a year teaching in Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's never
> > dull in Hull!), England , and then two years teaching in northern
> > Alberta.
> >
> > Anyone care to share?

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Peter McIntosh]

Bob Shell wrote:

 > I wonder how many of us are doing what our education prepared us for?


Uni?  Never got there.  Walked out of high school into IT almost 30 
years ago and have worked in IT ever since.

Ciao,

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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[P. J. Alling]

That's not true, the Kodak chip is the same ratio as APS-C ~ 35mm ~ 
6x9cm (2:3).   APS-H (16:9) isn't even close.  Geeze these numbers are 
published everywhere.

Adam Maas wrote:
> Bronek Kozicki wrote:
>   
>> Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 
>>> B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
>>> images.
>>>   
>> Leica M8 is croppped, although not APS.
>>
>>
>> B.
>>
>> 
>
> Close to APS-H actually. About as close to that as DX format is to APS-C.
>
> -Adam
>
>   


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Re: Occupations

[Feroze]

Self employed graphic designer

... except for red cross workers you have the best job by far

Feroze

Adam Maas wrote:
> I'm an Internet Security Specialist for the last remaining vestige of 
> MCI. I smack spammers for a living.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
> Charles Wilson wrote:
>   
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I work as a CEO of a Christian charity, and work part as a marriage 
>> counsellor and a psychologist.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Charles Wilson
>> Sydney Australia 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
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PESO - Bicycle in the snow

[George Sinos]

We got our first snow of the season on New Year's Eve.  It wasn't a
big storm, but it was icy and windy, and of course hit at a bad time
for those on the road.

I took a few snapshots on the way to a friend's house at about 4 pm.
The light was not the best for photos, but I think I captured the
atmosphere.

Here's the photo that goes with the subject line:



It's a grab shot.  I just pointed the camera out the car window on the
driver's side and hit the shutter button.

All of the photos were taken with the K10d in the Program mode with
the 16-45mm zoom.  It was set to Auto ISO with an EV of +1 or 2.

Here's the link to the gallery page:



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PESO: A lady for Frank

[pnstenquist]

A match made in heaven: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5402125

K10D with DA 16-45, ISO 800, f4 @ 1/15th


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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Margus Männik]

I do! However, first it took ca. 10 years of selling computers...

BR, Margus
Dipl. Engineer of Electronics


Bob Shell wrote:

>On Jan 2, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>  
>
>I wonder how many of us are doing what our education prepared us  
>for?  In my case I majored in zoology
>  
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Lucas Rijnders]

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:59:51 +0100, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>
>> Which is very, very far from what my education prepared me for...
>
> I wonder how many of us are doing what our education prepared us
> for?  In my case I majored in zoology

I am an industrial design engineer, currently designing playground  
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Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[Perry Pellechia]

Looks like quite a snow storm, a total white out

On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another shot from my New Years Eve outing.  I was walking along a street
> in Providence RI when a car jumped the curb and knocked down an innocent
> bystander.  It was so surprising that I wasn't prepared to capture the
> event but good photographer that I am I was able to capture the
> aftermath.  Note to the squeamish there is no gore...
>
> file:///E:/PESO-PAW/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
>
> Technical Data:
> Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/20sec (Av)
> smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 AL @ f1.9
> B&W conversion in Photoshop.
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PESO -- Rose II

[P. J. Alling]

Some of you may remember this young lady from one of my past PESOs.  
She's decided to be a bit less serious in the new year.  It's not a 
great photograph in that she was a bit close for the close focus point 
of the particular lens I was using.  Still I think the content may 
outweigh the technical problems.  This was about the best photo from my 
New Years Eve outing.  Too much eggnog.

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_roseii.html

Technical Data:

Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/20sec (M)
smc Pentax M 100mm f2.8 @ f2.8

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PESO -- "Ugly duckling grows up"

[P. J. Alling]

This was taken between Christmas and New Years, Coldest day of the week, 
temperature almost normal.  These denizens were enjoying the sun however.

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_uglyduckling.html

Technical Info:
Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/250sec (M)
smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 AL @ 35mm f9.0

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Re: Do it yourself pano head

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just take two shots with a wide angle lens in a confined space by
> > rotating on the spot and attempt to stitch them
>
> What kind of camera to subject distance are we talking about here?

2 to 3m distance will cause all sorts of problems. I often make panos
in close quarters where some foreground elements maybe only 10-15cm
away from the centre of the panorama rotation and they stitch without
any parallax problems

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Frits Wüthrich]

On Tuesday 02 January 2007 22:08, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:59:51 +0100, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Jan 2, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
> >> Which is very, very far from what my education prepared me for...
> >
> > I wonder how many of us are doing what our education prepared us
> > for?  In my case I majored in zoology
>
> I am an industrial design engineer, currently designing playground
> equipment. Most fun I've had in years :o)
>
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Are you also required to test it out?
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Perry Pellechia]

I manage a shared instrumentation / research laboratory (NMR
Spectroscopy) here in the Chemistry Department at the University of
South Carolina.  Official titles: Assistant Research Professor;
Director of NMR Services. (or just "peon" to the tenured faculty).

I mostly keep the instruments running, collaborate on research
projects and train users etc.  My degrees are in Chemistry, so I am
making use good use out of all the years I spent in school.

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PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[P. J. Alling]

Another shot from my New Years Eve outing.  I was walking along a street 
in Providence RI when a car jumped the curb and knocked down an innocent 
bystander.  It was so surprising that I wasn't prepared to capture the 
event but good photographer that I am I was able to capture the 
aftermath.  Note to the squeamish there is no gore...

file:///E:/PESO-PAW/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html

Technical Data:
Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/20sec (Av)
smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 AL @ f1.9
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Re: Looking for a K10D ...

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not the camera - Western Europe. Some Canadian wanted to put it in his
> province.

Oh, I see. Then tell him that apart from a logistical problem he'd have
to face another major obstacle...* ;-)

Ralf

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Re: PESO: A lady for Frank

[P. J. Alling]

I'm sure that Frank will appreciate the thought.  I'm not sure the lady 
will...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A match made in heaven: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5402125
>
> K10D with DA 16-45, ISO 800, f4 @ 1/15th
>
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PESO -- "Industrial Art"

[P. J. Alling]

Another shot taken between Christmas and New Years.  I went out with a 
friend for a ramble in New Haven, CT.  The Yale students, in fact the 
students from most of the local colleges had gone home for the 
holidays.   We mostly had the city to ourselves.  This caught my eye in 
a store decorated in early industrial loft space...

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_industrialart.html

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Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[P. J. Alling]

I should really pay attention to what I'm doing.  Correct link below:

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html

P. J. Alling wrote:
> Another shot from my New Years Eve outing.  I was walking along a street 
> in Providence RI when a car jumped the curb and knocked down an innocent 
> bystander.  It was so surprising that I wasn't prepared to capture the 
> event but good photographer that I am I was able to capture the 
> aftermath.  Note to the squeamish there is no gore...
>
> file:///E:/PESO-PAW/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
>
> Technical Data:
> Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/20sec (Av)
> smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 AL @ f1.9
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Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[P. J. Alling]

Damn wrong link

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html

Perry Pellechia wrote:
> Looks like quite a snow storm, a total white out
>
> On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Another shot from my New Years Eve outing.  I was walking along a street
>> in Providence RI when a car jumped the curb and knocked down an innocent
>> bystander.  It was so surprising that I wasn't prepared to capture the
>> event but good photographer that I am I was able to capture the
>> aftermath.  Note to the squeamish there is no gore...
>>
>> file:///E:/PESO-PAW/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
>>
>> Technical Data:
>> Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/20sec (Av)
>> smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 AL @ f1.9
>> B&W conversion in Photoshop.
>>
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[graywolf]

Some day we shall have to talk .

Strangely I have not used a soldering iron on a job since I worked in a 
TV shop back in 63-64. While I usually refer to my primary occupation as 
an EMT (electro-mechanical technician), every employer I've worked for 
has had a different name for what I did. But basically I build, 
assembled, tested, debugged, etc. electrical and/or mechanical gadgets. 
Ran the gamut from watch repair to building industrial robots, with 
asides into working as an electrician and running a 4x4 shop. Sometimes 
I worked alone, sometimes on big teams.

Work was usually very project oriented, when the project was done I was 
out looking for work.  so, I had sub-occupations that I usually did in 
the interim. Usually I drove a truck, did some kind of sales, or tried 
to open a photography business. The problem was when another project 
came along I would be hungry enough to abandon the attempt.

Looking at all the I am a "whatever" here I wonder what my life would be 
like today if I had had that kind of stability. I do know that a loss of 
concentration, coordination, energy, emotional stability, and about 50 
points in IQ, leaves me on social-security (The neurologists all agree 
that something is wrong, but don't have a clue otherwise ). Ah, 
well, I am 62 now, so I can call myself retired.

I'm retired.



Adam Maas wrote:

> 
> I'm an Electronics Engineering Technician by trade. Haven't touched a 
> soldering iron for pay since 97 though.

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Re: PESO: A lady for Frank

[frank theriault]

On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sure that Frank will appreciate the thought.  I'm not sure the lady
> will...



Why, I oughtta...!!!

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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What they call "blind test" is rampant.  They exhibit images taken by
> various cameras including 5D (usually more than 5 images taken by different
> cameras) and see if anyone can tell the difference.  This of course is more
> for an entertainment and no formal testing etc, and testing bases are not
> uniform, let alone they are all web images.
> For 5 or so games, no one so far could tell which was 5D images. This of
> course does not say anything about the performance of 5D (FF enthusiasts,
> don't get too excited about it.  It's just a game :-).  But it does tell
> some truth about the level of difference between APS-C and FF at the current
> state of the art in everyday shooting.

And I'd bet that plenty of people couldn't tell the difference between
a 7MP shot from a P&S at ISO1600 vs a well processed RAW shot from a
5D at low ISO and others would claim to be able to differentiate
between lower ISO settings on a 5D. It's just like the audio
enthusiasts lists.

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Peter Fairweather]

I run a university business school in Kent. I'm attempting to retire
early as the best part of the job has become taking photos for the in
house magazine and the external relations department.

Why are their so few female contributors to this list? Does this
reflect camera users as a whole or just list users possibly?

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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Adam Maas]

Yes, but the size is similar.

-Adam

P. J. Alling wrote:
> That's not true, the Kodak chip is the same ratio as APS-C ~ 35mm ~ 
> 6x9cm (2:3).   APS-H (16:9) isn't even close.  Geeze these numbers are 
> published everywhere.
> 
> Adam Maas wrote:
>> Bronek Kozicki wrote:
>>   
>>> Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> 
 B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
 images.
   
>>> Leica M8 is croppped, although not APS.
>>>
>>>
>>> B.
>>>
>>> 
>> Close to APS-H actually. About as close to that as DX format is to APS-C.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>   
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Re: PESO: A lady for Frank

[frank theriault]

On 1/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A match made in heaven: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5402125

Thanks for the thought, Paul, but:

a)  She's far too young for the likes of me, and,

b)  I'm spoken for these days.

That being said, I like the pic.  It's a nice, relaxed, informal
portrait that shows off her pretty smile.

Well done!

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Re: More rumors ... (and happy New Year)

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A 20/2.8, FA 24/2.8. FA 24/2

Maybe A24/2.8 ;-)

The beauty of which is even if there is some vignetting with the FF WA
lenses given that the sensor density would likely be lower the
requirements for absolute resolution would be reduced and CA would
likely remain fairly constant between formats. Larger pixel sites
would provide greater capture latitude and hence more scope for
digital vignetting correction and hopefully new micro-lens
technologies would reduce vignetting due to non-incident image forming
rays in the first place.

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Re: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> you seem to forgot that the new Hoya Pentax company will launch in
> October -- I'd be surprised if 645D does not go to market before this
> date, and I'd be shocked if it is pulled back with no good reason other
> than "merger".

I think I'd fall off my chair if they actually manage to deliver the
645D before October (and it's pretty stable).

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Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[Perry Pellechia]

Victim never had a chance do dodge that vehicle.

On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Damn wrong link
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
>
> Perry Pellechia wrote:
> > Looks like quite a snow storm, a total white out
> >
> > On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Another shot from my New Years Eve outing.  I was walking along a street
> >> in Providence RI when a car jumped the curb and knocked down an innocent
> >> bystander.  It was so surprising that I wasn't prepared to capture the
> >> event but good photographer that I am I was able to capture the
> >> aftermath.  Note to the squeamish there is no gore...
> >>
> >> file:///E:/PESO-PAW/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
> >>
> >> Technical Data:
> >> Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/20sec (Av)
> >> smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 AL @ f1.9
> >> B&W conversion in Photoshop.
> >>
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Re: PESO: A lady for Frank

[pnstenquist]

Thanks Frank. But don't forget we're talking women not wine.  Young isn't a 
problem:-). I like this girl's spirit. All the Starbucks employees were 
supposed to wear ears on this Saturday. She was the only one who had the 
courage to put 'em on. Good to hear your spoke for, BTW. 
Paul
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From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 1/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A match made in heaven: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5402125
> 
> Thanks for the thought, Paul, but:
> 
> a)  She's far too young for the likes of me, and,
> 
> b)  I'm spoken for these days.
> 
> That being said, I like the pic.  It's a nice, relaxed, informal
> portrait that shows off her pretty smile.
> 
> Well done!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: PESO: A lady for Frank

[P. J. Alling]

Sounds like a job for Cotty...

Christian wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> A match made in heaven: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5402125
>>
>> K10D with DA 16-45, ISO 800, f4 @ 1/15th
>>
>>
>> 
>
> More likely a match made in a lab by evil scientists...  Clearly, you 
> realize that this young lady and Mr. Theriault are 2 very disparate 
> species?  Frank is a lagomorph (bunny rabbit) while this woman is an 
> Artiodactyl of some sort (my guess a Caribou AKA "Reindeer") :-)
>
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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> she does not ;-P and I'm not going to argue with you other points, as
> they might be true indeed. The fact is I'm just losing patience seeing
> discussion that could end up like whinning "when Pentax will finally
> release full frame camera?!". There is no "full frame" to start with,
> it's just 135 format called by a different name invented by Canon
> marketing. And we, Pentax users, have some excellent "digital" lenses to
> enjoy that no other system has, now move on.

You best let Pentax know as they still make DA lenses which are
compatible with FF cameras and they quote their DSLRs as having a crop
factor relative to FF 35mm ;-)

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Re: PESO: A lady for Frank

[Christian]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A match made in heaven: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5402125
> 
> K10D with DA 16-45, ISO 800, f4 @ 1/15th
> 
> 

More likely a match made in a lab by evil scientists...  Clearly, you 
realize that this young lady and Mr. Theriault are 2 very disparate 
species?  Frank is a lagomorph (bunny rabbit) while this woman is an 
Artiodactyl of some sort (my guess a Caribou AKA "Reindeer") :-)

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Re: PESO - Bicycle in the snow

[frank theriault]

On 1/2/07, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We got our first snow of the season on New Year's Eve.  It wasn't a
> big storm, but it was icy and windy, and of course hit at a bad time
> for those on the road.
>
> I took a few snapshots on the way to a friend's house at about 4 pm.
> The light was not the best for photos, but I think I captured the
> atmosphere.
>
> Here's the photo that goes with the subject line:
>
> 
>
> It's a grab shot.  I just pointed the camera out the car window on the
> driver's side and hit the shutter button.
>
> All of the photos were taken with the K10d in the Program mode with
> the 16-45mm zoom.  It was set to Auto ISO with an EV of +1 or 2.
>

My type of cyclist:

Hardcore!!

:-)

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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[P. J. Alling]

Width maybe, but height is, (well at the sizes we're considering), much 
greater in the Kodak chip than in APS-H format.
Adam Maas wrote:
> Yes, but the size is similar.
>
> -Adam
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> That's not true, the Kodak chip is the same ratio as APS-C ~ 35mm ~ 
>> 6x9cm (2:3).   APS-H (16:9) isn't even close.  Geeze these numbers are 
>> published everywhere.
>>
>> Adam Maas wrote:
>> 
>>> Bronek Kozicki wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 
 
> B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
> images.
>   
>   
 Leica M8 is croppped, although not APS.


 B.

 
 
>>> Close to APS-H actually. About as close to that as DX format is to APS-C.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> 
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Re: PESO -- "Industrial Art"

[pnstenquist]

I like this one. Nice comosition with interesting combination of highlights and 
grayscale.
Paul
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> Another shot taken between Christmas and New Years.  I went out with a 
> friend for a ramble in New Haven, CT.  The Yale students, in fact the 
> students from most of the local colleges had gone home for the 
> holidays.   We mostly had the city to ourselves.  This caught my eye in 
> a store decorated in early industrial loft space...
> 
> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_industrialart.html
> 
> Technical Data:
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> smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 AL @ f1.9
> B&W Conversion in Photoshop.
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Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[frank theriault]

On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I should really pay attention to what I'm doing.  Correct link below:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
>

Senseless slaughter...

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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Bronek Kozicki]

Digital Image Studio wrote:
> factor relative to FF 35mm ;-)
  

keyword underscored.


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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Margus Männik]

I suspect that most of the hi-fi enthusiasts don't know and doesn't care 
what MOSFET stands for and what it really means... ;)

BRM

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

>You guys are obviously not hi-fi enthusiasts.
>Those have been used in some audio amps for
>decades.
>jco
>
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>
>Metal Oxide Semiconductor Field-Effect Transistor
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET
>
>Aren't you glad you asked. :-)
>
>Dave (I had no idea either)
>
>At 01:28 AM 3/01/2007, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>  
>
>>What's a MOSFET?
>>
>>Shel
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>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: Mat Maessen
>>>  
>>>
>>> I can tell you [...] how to properly bias MOSFETs though
>>>  
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Re: SDHC and card readers?

[Brendan MacRae]

They do...

I have a cheapo reader and it does read the Extreme
III SD cards. However, I've only used it twice; I'm
now just dumping directly from the camera.

-Brendan
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> 
> Does anyone know if card readers constructed for
> plain SD cards will
> work with the new SDHC cards?
> 
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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Digital Image Studio wrote:
> > factor relative to FF 35mm ;-)
>   
>
> keyword underscored.

...and?

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Re: SDHC and card readers?

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They do...
>
> I have a cheapo reader and it does read the Extreme
> III SD cards. However, I've only used it twice; I'm
> now just dumping directly from the camera.

The Extreme III are still SD cards they don't conform to SDHC spec.
and for what it's worth I now have three of these cards and some of my
readers will not recognize them.

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RE: Do it yourself pano head

[Markus Maurer]

So I was just lucky so far that I did not use anything wider than a 50mm?
I will make the next panos again with the Pentax 50mm or 100mm.
greetings
Markus

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On 02/01/07, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Dave
> since I only will make flat panoramas made out of 3-6 shots and not 360
> degree round ones I would love to see the difference in a panorama with
and
> without nodal point adjustment of the camera for my requirements . Has
> anybody a link or selfmade panoramas with a comparison?
> Gratulations for your self made head from somebody with "two left hands"
:-)

Just take two shots with a wide angle lens in a confined space by
rotating on the spot and attempt to stitch them, it's no fun. Do the
same thing using a pano head with the correct offset dialed in and
stitching will be very easy.

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RE: Scanning

[Markus Maurer]

I can even see a difference between the Canon 9900F flatbed scanner and a
Minolta Dual Scan 2 filmscanner very well here when scanning ccolor negative
film.
And  the Canon is one of the better flatbed scanners for its age. I would
love to have access to a high end one...
greetings
Markus


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For years I've been touting the various iterations of the Imacon here often
to be met with comments about people not seeing any appreciable difference,
comments (based on some technical crap or web articles) that a good flat
bed scanner is comparable or almost as good, etc.  I'm very glad to see
that someone finally agrees with my assessment of the scanner.  Now, if you
want to "kick it up a notch," get a good scan on a real drum scanner, like
the Heidelberg Tango (when "good enough" is not good enough).  Compare that
to any of the Epsons, and even some Imacons.  Be careful that you don't
step on your jaw 

I am fortunate in that I can rent time on a couple of the mid- and high-end
Imacons, and can get good support and scanning advice from an expert on the
subject, who is usually right there when I'm scanning.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Stenquist

> For several years, I scanned all my 6x7 transparencies and negs on an
> Epson 3200. The results were nice. I sold quite a few as stock and
> many to magazines. When I went to visit my friend the other day, he
> asked me to bring some transparencies that I had confidence in
> regarding sharpness and exposure. I brought a few car shots from one
> of my magazine articles. He scanned them on an Imacon. Wow. I  was
> impressed. I printed one on the 2400 when I got home. An amazing
> difference. Not just in sharpness or detail resolution, but shadow
> detail and color gradation as well. Now I just have to find a
> benefactor to buy me an Imacon. When I have time, I'll prepare a 100%
> crop comparison, since I still have my original scans.



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Re: OT: Occupations?

[frank theriault]

On 1/2/07, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect that most of the hi-fi enthusiasts don't know and doesn't care
> what MOSFET stands for and what it really means... ;)

All I know is that the FET part of it stands for Field Effect
Transistor, and that in HiFi apps, they're generally used in the
output stages of power amps, and that they (in some way) mimic the
behaviour of vacuum tubes.

I also know that my Creek CAS 4040 has them.

cheers,
frank (no longer an audiophile

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Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D

[Peter Fairweather]

Instead of being cruel about Ken Rockwell, try reading his work.
Nowhere also has the basic spec of the new Canon 7d. Not only can he
review cameras he hasn't used, he can even do this for cameras which
don't yet exist. 24 meg sensor, 3.1 frames per second continuous he
informs us. What a guy!!

Peter

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Adam Maas]

Peter Fairweather wrote:
> I run a university business school in Kent. I'm attempting to retire
> early as the best part of the job has become taking photos for the in
> house magazine and the external relations department.
> 
> Why are their so few female contributors to this list? Does this
> reflect camera users as a whole or just list users possibly?
> 
> Peter
> 

I've noticed that female photographers are rather less inclined to talk 
gear. hence the relative rarity on lists and forums which tend to be a 
little gear oriented.

-Adam

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect that most of the hi-fi enthusiasts don't know and doesn't care
> what MOSFET stands for and what it really means... ;)

Yes, they are too busy trying to hear the difference between digital
interconnects :-)

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