[PEN-L:8500] Radical Statistics AGM

1997-02-07 Thread Julian Wells

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[PEN-L:8512] Nairu, etc.

1997-02-07 Thread PHILLPS

Not only have I got Jim D responding in hot denial, also my other
colleague and (usually) agreeable friend, Barkely R. :-)  Hey, none
of it was personal nor were my comments directed to anyone personally.
In fact, (if I must confess) I had deleted the comments from my
mail and was only responding to a kind of technical acceptance of
the idea of NRU/Nairu which I find totally anathema to radical *or*
post Keynesian analysis.  I think we all agree (?) that there is
nothing "natural" about the rate of unemployment.  Does anyone
disagree?
  What I find more insidious is the concept of Nairu -- the non-
accelerating inflation rate of unemployment.  What does this
imply?  Is it not a long-run vertical phillips curve?  And what
does that say?  YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT THE LEVEL OF EMPLOYMENT
WITHOUT ACCELERATING INFLATION (presumably into hyperinflation).
Put another way, it means acceptance of the monetarist line.
It rejects -- not only the bastard Keynesian Phillips curve
analysis of the 1950s-1970s -- but also **all** Keynesian/
postKeynesian concepts of a horizontal Phillips curve (see,
for example, Wheeler in Piore, Unemployment and Inflation.)
  In short, before we can even talk about employment and macro
policy, I think we must divest ourselves of any NRU/Nairu
polutants and look again at the determinants and mechanisms of
the excercize of economic power in the distribution of income
and the determination of prices, at both micro and macro levels.
  NRU and Nairu are both related ideological constructs that, as
long as we keep arguing about them, will deflect us from analyzing
the real causes of exploitation and misery.

In northern frozen solidarity,
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba





[PEN-L:8514] Re: NAIRU, etc.

1997-02-07 Thread MScoleman

  This also happened in the first half of the nineteenth century in
the states.  Prior to the huge waves of Irish immigration starting in 1843,
there were a series of federal, state, and local reports which strongly
encouraged the use of women laborers in factories.  It was said that
technology increased their (female) productivity while the use of women as
wage labor did not take men away from the more important sectors of the
economy: agriculture, seafaring, military (we were fighting the brits in the
war of 1812 and kicking the indians off the east coast and suppressing
regular riots in urban areas of new york, boston, and philly).  In fact,
throughout most of the antebellum years women were the MAJORITY of
non-agricultural wage earners.
  Which brings up my next point.  At those times when there is no
reserve army, rather than increase wages to pull increased labor into
factories, capitalists use political persuasion (rosie the riveter) and legal
restrictions (controlled economy).  While it may not be possible to measure
the reserve army, there does seem to be a critical level below which the
capitalists are forced to use some type of coercion to supply labor.  This
has also been the tradition in this country since its inception.  Prior to
1800 50 - 75% of white wage labor arrived under indenture contracts, all
non-white labor arrived under indenture contracts (Chinese) or enslaved
(African).  Wages only start becoming prevalent when capitalists realize that
the wage system reduces the responsibility of the powerful towards labor --
under systems of legal coercion, the powerful must care for labor from birth
to death (maybe no well, but they do provide care).  With wage labor, the
survival of the working class depends on the ability of that class to demand
a larger portion of the economic pie.
  The fact that the ruling class now sees the natural rate of
unemployment as a reducing factor is likely, in part,  because the power of
the working class in the states has reduced dramatically in the last 20
years.  The threat of unemployment is not important when the people employed
have no power.

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 97-02-06 15:41:11 EST, you write:

There was 
also a concerted (planned) effort to move women into traditional 
"men's" jobs to replace the soldiers who'd gone off to war and to 
avoid labor-market tightness. The US, like most other war 
economies, was moving toward being almost a planned economy. 
(This happened during WW I and our Civil War, also.)







[PEN-L:8515] Re: capital mobility restrictions

1997-02-07 Thread BAIMAN



On Fri, 27 Dec 1996, Steele, Jen wrote:

 
 I'm curious what pen-l folks have to say about capital mobility restictions, 
 such as a return to a fixed exchange rate system, as a means for stabilizing 
 local economies.  Personally, I have a hard time inagining it.  Do you think 
 it's feasible? What other controls on capital mobility exist, here or in 
 other countries?  Any suggestions on short, current readings about this 
 issue? Maybe this thread can get us off the personal stuff and back onto 
 economic issues.

Jen,

I read (i believe in Schweickart's "Against Capital) that Thurow 
(as in Lester) is now for a "flexible peg" and that he now regrets the 
complete liberalization of exchange rates (a little late!) 

Not much - but maybe helpful.

Ron Baiman
Roosevelt U.
Chicago





[PEN-L:8502] Bulgaria - Self-finance vs Subsidise

1997-02-07 Thread Wendell W. Solomons

  In an effort to initiate a non-US dominated topic: What 
  would people on the list do if they were put in charge of 
  economic policy in Bulgaria today?
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From Wendell W. Solomons [EMAIL PROTECTED]

... Five years ago I faxed the Chief Economist of the World Bank to
caution against unphased privatisation in Russia. That country and Bulgaria
would be in a different situation if they had been tackled like General
MacArthur tackled Japan. Moscow News weekly of that period showed
Harvard's Prof Sachs in Moscow actively discouraging the use of
the Japanese model. In a sense Russia had already installed Japan's
vaunted lifetime-employment system and the need was to get commercial
marketing and other facilities in place so as to *SELF-FINANCE*
production line changes.

As financier Soros has been moved to write, Eastern Europe has a robber
capitalism model. The problem with Prof Sach's consultancy has left
you and me is that we will have to *SUBSIDISE* soldiers and scientists
salaries in Eastern Europe to keep Russia's, Bulgaria's and other
plutonium from polluting us. In much of Eastern Europe production has
fallen below levels of the 1980s. Journalists vanish into the night.
Robber warlordism is rampant. As you notice, China denied itself
Prof Sach's model and her GNP grows at around 10% with a population
of 1.2 billion.

Another five years and ... 

Tks,

\\/






[PEN-L:8492] Re: Bowie bonds

1997-02-07 Thread Max B. Sawicky

On  6 Feb 97 at 14:34, Doug Henwood wrote:

 How about that David Bowie issuing $55 million in 10-year, 7.9% bonds on
 his future record sales? That's only about 130 basis points over comparable
 Treasuries. But if Kazakhstan - whose banking sector is collapsing into the
 state's arms, and which has had its electricity cut off by Russia for
 nonpayment - can sell bonds at 300 bp over Treasuries, why not?

The tax advantages of this must be interesting.  Usually
it is better to spread and delay the receipt of income for
tax purposes.  It's worth an extra look for junkies of
tax avoidance.

MBS





[PEN-L:8507] Re: cockroach and pen-l list...

1997-02-07 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

 I want to apologize to Michael P. and to the list 
(what, again?!).  I feel responsible for bob malecki having 
come onto this list.  He was drawn in because of my posting 
my infamous New Year's attack on Louis Proyect to the 
marxism-international list as well, where bob hangs out.  
Since he hates Lou P., he thought this would be a place to 
come check out.  I told him offlist what pen-l is about, 
and knowing something about him, warned him to behave 
himself, and that if he behaved properly there is a lot of 
interesting stuff going on, even if it is more academically 
oriented than he is used to.  However, I am not surprised 
that he has ended up pulling what he has.
 BTW, he also spent time in the can during the Vietnam 
years.  He has a strange past, but that seems to be true.
Barkley Rosser
On Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) bill mitchell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 Most of the stuff on Pen-L is garbage! But if you insist on refusing 
 Cockroach and other issues  that i post. Well, take Pen L. and shove it up 
 your ass. Now you either take me off your list or leave it alone!
 
 Because what your are doing is banning Trotskyists and kissing the asses of 
 the Liberals and Mensheviks that post dozens of piss articles that have 
 nothing to do with poor and working class people and their struggles!
 
 Futhermore I am posting your letter and this reply to you to the other 
 lists, the newsgroups and  a future issue of Cockroach.
 ...
 CC: everybody I know! And that is a whole lot of people you whiny little 
 fucking piece of shit.
 
 Dear Bob
 
 i am sure the boycott will be successful. go for it. get your loud-hailer out
 (like we did in the 60-70s) and get into a lather with some slogans, old
 fashioned ones like those that were popular around the vietnam days.and
 march off into the distance, hating, loathing, and feeling like a real fucking
 hero.
 
 many people experienced high costs for matters of principle during the late 60
 and early 70, including internment for extended periods. but that was more than
 25 years ago. the struggle has changed. 
 
 i have read cockroach. it is poor communication. it is froth and bubble and
 barely gets beyond the student babble that hides virtual nothingness in a
 swathe of fancy titles "trotyskyists, mensheviks..."
 
 class struggle is about communicating with people not badgering them with
 insults and rudeness. pen-l is the progressive economic list. we know you exist
 thanks to your postings (that michael accepts) on the table of contents. we
 have the choice to go to your site and check it out. that is enough. those who
 visit the site won't be bookmarking it - it is full of the sort of shit that
 you pumped out today.
 
 i might be the liberal type you hate but for the list record i support michael
 completely in the way he runs the list. From my personal contact with him i 
 think he is a really top guy. Your failure to assess him properly, probably is
 also related to the reason why your attempt at web journalism is miserable.
 your attacks on him miss the mark. they merely reflect on you.
 
 as a monthy python sketch might conclude "oh no, not that,...please not
 that, please don't post anything to cockroach..., what would
 i do if any of this gets in cockroach."
 
 
 kind regards
 bill
 
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  ##   William F. Mitchell
###    Head of Economics Department
  #University of Newcastle
   New South Wales, Australia
###*   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
###Phone: +61 49 215065
 #  ## ###+61 49 215027
   Fax:   +61 49 216919  
   ##http://econ-www.newcastle.edu.au/~bill/billyhp.html   

-- 
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







[PEN-L:8513] Long waves

1997-02-07 Thread PHILLPS

Barkely suggests we may be on the beginnings of a long wave (swing)
upswing by referring to the fact that investment/GNP has been
rising.  Others have poo-pooed the whole concept of long waves,
a subject I don't want to debate at this time.  I do, however,
want to make two points.
  The first is that, a few weeks ago I made a rash offer to post
a bibliography of work on regualation and SSA theory with respect
to the long wave on Pen-l and several people took me up on that
offer.  I went back to my computer and have been unable to find
my reading list file for my graduate class.  My face is red.  I
have no excuse (except perhaps technological incompetance).  I have
all the articles piled up on my desk but, alas, the onerous task
of teaching deserving students means that I can not input all this
material at this time. Please accept my apologies.
  The second point relates to the regulation theory approach to
economic phases which stresses the relationship between the
regime of accumulation and the mode of regulation.  In a rather
simplistic interpretation, the 1850-1896 growth/stagnation period
was marked by an extensive regime of accumulation and a competitive
mode ofregulation.  The 1897-1940 period, by an
intesive regime of accumulation and a competitive mode of
regulation, the 1945-199?, an intensive regime of accumulation and
a monopoly mode of regulation.  Following Boyer's analysis,
one could argue that the current stirrings of expansion are based
again on an extensive regime of accumulation and a monopoly mode
of regulation (under the umbrella of global capital).  If this is
true (as was the case in the 1850-96 period) economic growth measured
in total (measured) output increases, quite dramatically in some
cases, though *per capita* income/output is stagnant.  Incidentally,
this is the case for Canada inthe 1870-96 period.  I have not seen
comparable data for the US though I believe this is also true for
the UK.  In any case, this means that the stagnant real wage but
macro growth scenario is quite compatable with long wave theory.
It also, however, suggests that the next upward swing will be
pretty dismall for all but the propertied class.

Cold Comfort from Manitoba
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba





[PEN-L:8505] Re: the four questions

1997-02-07 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

 Well, we have already been through this with a lot of 
people expressing strong skepticism, including Doug, but it 
sure looks to me those early stages of the long wave 
upswing, ooh ooh.
Barkley Rosser 
On Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:39:24 -0800 (PST) Thad Williamson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At 04:34 PM 2/6/97 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 My cursory reading of the domestic spending during the last few 
 years is: 
 government spending/GDP down; 
 private fixed investment/GDP up significantly
 consumer demand/GDP flat.
 
 
 Isn't this kind of an upset, a private investment-driven recovery and growth
 period? In the strict left Keynesian view (I think) this is isn't suppposed
 to happen very much. (I also have in mind the many left economic historians
 like DuBoff , and a recent paper by Vatter et al,  who correlate significant
 growth periods in the 20th century with govt't/military expansion.) What's
 the explanation(s)? Interest rates, mainly? More stable business climate for
 investment? Something else?
 
 cheers,
 Thad
 
 Thad Williamson
 National Center for Economic and Security Alternatives (Washington)/
 Union Theological Seminary (New York)
 212-531-1935
 http://www.northcarolina.com/thad
 

-- 
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







[PEN-L:8496] The Necessity For A World Outlook III

1997-02-07 Thread SHAWGI TELL


 Let us go back a bit to our riddle of what came first, the
chicken or the egg, structure or function, practice or theory? If
waging the class struggle and politics, or, in short, practice,
are not put in the first place, how is it possible to raise the
question of acquiring a world outlook? Why would anyone want to
acquire a world outlook when that outlook has no meaning for that
person in real life? A world outlook is a matter of approaching
the  social and natural world, a world of which the people are an
integral part. 
 A world outlook determines how a person approaches the world
in which that person lives. Should we approach it from the
standpoint that ideas are primary and matter is secondary or the
other way around? Only those who wage the class struggle will be
objective and approach the question of a world outlook from their
own standpoint, from their own class interest. When the
universities as well schools these days teach that reality is not
even knowable, they are waging a class struggle. They tell the
people that they must not look at the reality of capitalist
exploitation and wage slavery and draw what would be the
warranted conclusion that no problems can be sorted out with
finality until the capitalist system and the capitalist class are
overthrown.
 We Marxist-Leninists, on the other hand, approach the world
from the standpoint that not only is reality knowable but it also
has its own laws of social development. What is necessary is to
take into consideration these laws when anything is done, that
is, when we participate in the class struggle and the struggles
for production and scientific experimentation -- the three major
fronts of practice of all human beings. For us, matter is primary
and it can only be verified in the forms in which it exists. The
fact that it exists in myriad forms proves that matter cannot
exist without motion, just as motion cannot exist without matter.
 The capitalist class which teaches the youth that reality is
not knowable organizes its own individual enterprises and
political parties and processes extremely consciously and
knowingly. They knowingly use the worn-out method of all
reactionary classes, which is to advance on the basis of keeping
the people ignorant. Thus for them it is very convenient to
philosophize and have an outlook stating that even reality is not
knowable. There are people who can even get their Ph.Ds and
become well-known professors saying such things! 


Shawgi Tell
University at Buffalo
Graduate School of Education
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







[PEN-L:8493] Re: Nairu, etc.

1997-02-07 Thread Tom Walker

Now, if you started calling it the CGRU (the Capitalist Greed Rate
of Unemployment), I might be less critical.  Bill M, if I remember
correctely, has an alternative expression which is closer to the
mark -- but please don't call it natural.  Perhaps we should
call the US homicide rate the "natural rate of murder".  Makes as
much sense.

I opt for the CSRU -- class struggle rate of unemployment. There is no more
ideological word in the world than "natural". Everytime some blockheads want
to state their opinion as a law (and don't want to have to defend it as
opinion) they proclaim it an act of nature. This is as true for Stalinists
and unabombers as it is for monetarists and racists.
Regards, 

Tom Walker
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[PEN-L:8498] Re: the four questions

1997-02-07 Thread Thad Williamson

At 04:34 PM 2/6/97 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My cursory reading of the domestic spending during the last few 
years is: 
government spending/GDP down; 
private fixed investment/GDP up significantly
consumer demand/GDP flat.


Isn't this kind of an upset, a private investment-driven recovery and growth
period? In the strict left Keynesian view (I think) this is isn't suppposed
to happen very much. (I also have in mind the many left economic historians
like DuBoff , and a recent paper by Vatter et al,  who correlate significant
growth periods in the 20th century with govt't/military expansion.) What's
the explanation(s)? Interest rates, mainly? More stable business climate for
investment? Something else?

cheers,
Thad

Thad Williamson
National Center for Economic and Security Alternatives (Washington)/
Union Theological Seminary (New York)
212-531-1935
http://www.northcarolina.com/thad






[PEN-L:8497] Re: You're in charge of Bulgaria's economy

1997-02-07 Thread Eugene P. Coyle

  In an effort to initiate a non-US dominated topic, what
  would people on the list do if they were put in charge of
  economic policy in Bulgaria today?

  Peter
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'd enroll at Berlitz and try to learn Bulgarian by midnight.







[PEN-L:8494] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-02-07 Thread Richardson_D

BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1997

RELEASED TODAY:  In July through September of 1996, there were 947 
mass layoff events lasting more than 30 days, resulting in the 
separation of 198,398 workers from their jobs.  A year earlier, 
employers reported that they had laid off 173,827 workers in 902 
extended layoff events.  "Seasonal work" was the major reason cited 
for the third quarter 1996 layoffs and accounted for 27 percent of the 
events and 31 percent of the separations.  "Slack work," 
"reorganization within the company," and "contract completion" were 
cited next most often and together accounted for 40 percent of the 
events and 32 percent of the separations.  Closure of worksites 
occurred in 24 percent of all events and directly affected over 56,000 
workers 

Fed officials decided yesterday to leave short-term interest rates 
unchanged, despite recently strong economic growth, because of the 
persistence of low inflation (Washington Post, page C2; New York 
Times, page D2; Wall Street Journal, page A2).

Orders to U.S. factories fell 1.3 percent in December, the second 
consecutive monthly decline and the fifth of 1996, the Commerce 
Department said.  Factory orders are the main gauge of the nation's 
manufacturing strength.  For 1996, factory orders were up a moderate 
4.9 percent, vs. a 6.6 percent gain in 1995.  Last year's gain was the 
smallest in three years In December, electronic and electrical 
equipment had the largest decline (USA Today, page 1B).

Only half of U.S. workers are in private retirement plans, the Labor 
Department says.  Many not covered by pensions are employed by small 
businesses, or young workers who may not be thinking ahead to save for 
retirement, says the Association of Private Pension and Welfare Plans 
(USA Today, page 1B).

DUE OUT TOMORROW:  The Employment Situation:  January 1997








[PEN-L:8495] The Necessity For A World Outlook II

1997-02-07 Thread SHAWGI TELL


 It can be said that this is the point at which a world
outlook also begins to develop. This species called homo sapiens
did come into being, but it is now at such a stage in its
development that it is divided between those who want to play the
role inherent to the species, that is, continue the humanization
of the social and the natural environments on an uninterrupted
basis, and those who want to keep the stage of society as it is,
which is extremely destructive to both the social and the natural
environments and, most important, destructive to the very role
that nature gave to the homo sapiens as a species. Given its
inherent role, however, it is not possible to stop the species of
homo sapiens from humanizing the natural and the social
environments.
 Taking into consideration the all-round development of the
class struggle, it can thus be concluded that the class struggle
waged by the working class today leads to the ongoing
humanization of the social and natural environments, while the
class struggle waged by the capitalist class leads to its
opposite, that is, dehumanization. If anyone is to acquire a
world outlook, they will have to participate in waging this class
struggle, either on the side of the working class or on the side
of the capitalist class. There is no middle ground. There is no
such thing as acquiring an outlook without waging the class
struggle. Formal learning does have its own place, but the
decisive and the highest school of learning is the class struggle
itself. 
 All the youth, both students and others, ought to
participate in politics. They must put politics in the first
place. They should be able to correlate to the fact that the
capitalist class discourages everyone, especially the youth, from
participating in politics. It does so because it knows that if
everyone were to participate in politics they would come to the
conclusion that it is not necessary to have a superfluous  class
existing in society as the capitalist class. They will ask for
the overthrow of such a class and the system which perpetuates
it. However, by compelling them not to be political, the
capitalists get the youth to wage a class struggle against their
own interests, against the working class, and against the opening
of the door for the progress of society. It can be concluded by
analyzing concrete conditions that the reason why many youths
grope in the dark and have difficulty in acquiring a world
outlook is because they do not wage the class struggle or
participate in politics, which amounts to the same thing.
 In a society as exists in the U.S. today and internationally,
people do not have a choice whether to participate in politics or
not. Nonetheless, the capitalist class demands that they must not
participate in politics. The working class, women, youth and
students are pressured to leave politics to politicians. How are
people to defend their interests if they do not participate in
politics? All members of the polity have a duty to that polity to
participate in politics. The entire existing political process, however,
marginalizes the members of the polity from participating in
political affairs. Without the people participating in the
political affairs of the country and internationally, they become
divided into factions in favor of this or that political party.
They begin to participate in politics against their own
interests.


Shawgi Tell
University at Buffalo
Graduate School of Education
[EMAIL PROTECTED]








[PEN-L:8499] Re: the four questions

1997-02-07 Thread Anders Schneiderman

At 04:34 PM 2/6/97 -0800, you wrote:
4)How would you evaluate in general the thesis that American 
capitalism is, one way, or another headed for a long period of 
stagnation/slow growth? and if this is true, will it be tolerable 
enough that the Rob. Samuelsons, etc, can continue to pass it off 
as the best of all possible worlds? ...

I can't predict the future, but my gut feeling is that we'll have 
stagnation. Rob't Samuelson's gets paid to be optimistic, so I 
don't expect him to abandon his Panglossian view. 

Speaking of Mr. Optimism, anybody catch his latest in Newsweek?  Acc to
Samuelson, studies show that when it comes to deregulation, "we've had
enough experience with it to draw some conclusions.  And the main one is:
it works"--to the tune of saving us about $40 to $60 billion a year.  Of
course, Samuelson admits there's that pesky little problem with the SLs,
which "was botched big time," but he doesn't include it when figuring out
our "savings."  See Jim, this is why you don't understand that most working
families are doing well; when you calculate how much money they've made,
you forgot to drop out their credit card debt and their loans...

Anders Schneiderman
Progressive Communications





[PEN-L:8506] Re: Capacity Utilization Rate

1997-02-07 Thread Laurence Shute

Capacity utilization is also a tricky area.  I haven't looked lately, but
years ago the rate was changed to "profitable" capacity utilization rate.
Guess what that did to capacity utilization rates?  Perhaps others working
currently in the area can shed more light on this.  Larry Shute


Isn't the rate of unemployment and or the capacity utilization rate
a proxy for the level of demand at which capitalists collectively succeed
in raising prices?  And shouldn't that be the first point made in public
discussions of NAIRU?








[PEN-L:8509] Re: You're in charge of Bulgaria's economy

1997-02-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PEN-L:8486] You're in charge of Bulgaria's economy
 X-Comment: Progressive Economics
 
   In an effort to initiate a non-US dominated topic, what 
   would people on the list do if they were put in charge of 
   economic policy in Bulgaria today?

Let's keep this list in reality, please.
After the hash I made of Belarus and Moldova,
who would consider such a thing?

   valis
   Occupied America







[PEN-L:8508] Re: Nairu, etc.

1997-02-07 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

Paul,
 Just for the record, I note that in my discussion of 
the NRU I labeled it an invention of Milton Friedman, 
called it an essentially empty concept, said it did not 
necessarily equal NAIRU, to the extent that exists, and 
that both were covers for the reserve army.  Was I on your 
list of reprobates as well?
Barkley Rosser
On Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:46:45 -0800 (PST) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 First, to Jim, my complaint was not specific to you but, as you know,
 there is a similar discussion going on on PKT which is even less
 progressive and I sort of conflated the two streams.
 
 I just want to make a couple of points in response without dealing at
 this time with the segmented labour market or war experience stuff.
 
 My biggest complaint is with the expression the "natural rate" (Nairu
 or NRU).  Pray tell, what is "natural" about it?  To accept the notion
 is to accept the monetarist vertical Phillips curve which is to
 deny Keynesian, post-Keynesian, post Keynesian, Kaleckian,
 institutional, Marxian or any other heterodox approach to
 macroeconomics.  Even Lipsey in his 1954(?) article pointed out
 that the choice of unemployment rate was a *policy decision*, which
 depended on the choice of social welfare function.  I am not saying
 that the Phillips curve has not shifted out (though I think this is
 greatly over estimated).  I don't buy the standard arguments -- the
 growth of labour market regulation, unionism, UI etc -- which have been
 in decline since the sixties in the US and the 70s in Canada; or
 the growth in female participation which has, as the recent report
 by Dave on the US market indicates, increased competition for jobs
 such that male wages have shown a precipitous drop.  Incidentally,
 as Piore himself notes in his 1972(?) introduction to  *Unemployment
 and Inflation*, he saw the whole US market "tilting" to the
 secondary labour market which should, by Nairu type thinking, have
 resulted in an inward shift in the Phillips curve.
 
 Now, if you started calling it the CGRU (the Capitalist Greed Rate
 of Unemployment), I might be less critical.  Bill M, if I remember
 correctely, has an alternative expression which is closer to the
 mark -- but please don't call it natural.  Perhaps we should
 call the US homicide rate the "natural rate of murder".  Makes as
 much sense.
 
 Paul
 Paul Phillips,
 Economics,
 U of Manitoba

-- 
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
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[PEN-L:8501] Discouraging competition, encouraging profits in drugs

1997-02-07 Thread HANLY




The material below is reposted from BUSNET a Canadian newsgroup devoted
to business ethics. It is obviously relevant to health care reform. It shows
the power of pharmaceutical giants to protect their profits and discourage
competition even when they do not have patents for products.

-
Info-Policy-Notes - A newsletter available from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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INFORMATION POLICY NOTES
February 5, 1997

  USTR seeks limits on the ability to "rely" upon scientific research
  or actions by the U.S. FDA, on matters concerning pharmaceutical
  efficacy and safety

The following is a February 4, 1997 letter send by Ralph Nader, James Love
and Robert Weissman to President Clinton, asking the United States to
withdraw trade sanctions against Argentina.  The United States Trade
Representative Charlene Barshefsky is seeking the sanctions in an effort
to prevent Argentina and other countries from relying upon known
scientific evidence on pharmaceutical safety and efficacy, in considering
marketing approval for generic drugs.  The dispute concerns drugs which
are not subject to patent, often because the research was government
funded and entered the public domain.  Several OEDC countries (including
the U.S.) now prevent generic drug manufactures from "relying upon" other
researchers evidence of drug efficacy and safety for five years or more,
and the USTR wants to extend this policy to the entire world.  For
example, the unpatented cancer drug Taxol commands very high prices in the
United States, because Bristol-Myers Squibb is the only firm that is
permitted to relpy upon the National Cancer Institute's extensive research
that was used for FDA marketing approval.  The USTR wants Argentina and
other countries to prohibit competition from generics for Taxol and
similarly situated drugs.  The dispute raises important questions in terms
of ethics, public health and the dissemination and use of scientific
knowledge.  For more information, contact James Love (202.387.8030,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Robert Weissman (202.387-8030;  [EMAIL PROTECTED]), or
see http://www.essential.org/cpt/pharm/pharm.html.


(Note:  The letter is formatted with 1 inch margins, w/11 point
courier font.The HTML version is on the Web at:
http://www.essential.org/cpt/pharm/registration.html)


 P.O. Box 19367
 Washington, DC 20036

February 4, 1997

President William Clinton
The White House
Washington, DC

We are writing to ask that your Administration reconsider its
proposal to impose trade sanctions against Argentine consumers as
punishment for that country's policies toward the pharmaceutical
industry.  We believe the U.S. Trade Representative has erred for two
reasons. First, for public health and competitive reasons, the United
States Government should not support artificial barriers to the
introduction of generic versions of unpatented drugs.  Second, it is
inappropriate for the United States to punish Argentina consumers for
plainly legal advocacy efforts undertaken by Argentine private sector
domestic drug companies, who are simply seeking to protect their
interests in worldwide forums on rules for intellectual property.

1. The U.S. Government should not support artificial barriers to
the introduction of generic versions of unpatented drugs.

In the USTR's January 15, 1997 statement, the principal substantive
complaint about Argentina's policies on intellectual property rights
concerned the decision of the Argentine Congress to permit drug
manufacturers to rely upon scientific clinical trials already
submitted to drug regulators.  The USTR statement says:

  Following the April, 1996 decision, the Government of
  Argentina stated that it would attempt to address U.S. IPR
  concerns by enacting legislation to protect health
  registration data. Such scientific and technical data
  which must support claims of efficacy and safety of new
  products - must be submitted by pharmaceutical innovators
  to Health ministries to obtain approval for marketing new
  products. These data generally cost millions of dollars to
  develop. Given these costs to innovators, many countries
  prohibit competitors from relying upon such data when they
  seek Health Ministry approval for the same pharmaceutical
  product.

  On December 18, just before the scheduled completion date
  of USTR's out-of-cycle review, the Argentine Congress
  passed legislation dealing with health registration data.
  However, this legislation does not archive (sic) its
  stated purpose.  Specifically, the legislation does not
  prevent competitors from relying upon the innovator's test
  data when these rival firms seek marketing approval. On
  the contrary, the new legislation 

[PEN-L:8504] Re: You're in charge of Bulgaria's economy

1997-02-07 Thread Doug Henwood

At 10:17 AM -0800 2/7/97, Eugene P. Coyle wrote:

I'd enroll at Berlitz and try to learn Bulgarian by midnight.

Of course, you could just deal with the IMF, the World Bank, and the Morgan
Bank in English and have your staff work the details.

Doug

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[PEN-L:8511] Re: the four questions

1997-02-07 Thread Tom Walker

Barkley Rosser wrote,

 Well, we have already been through this with a lot of 
people expressing strong skepticism, including Doug, but it 
sure looks to me those early stages of the long wave 
upswing, ooh ooh.

Yeah, right. Is that the part of the upswing that heads down first or the
part that sort of rocks back and forth for a while?
Regards, 

Tom Walker
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[PEN-L:8510] Re: Nairu, etc.

1997-02-07 Thread blairs

Second, some of the comments here (not Paul's) seem to imply that
rising wages, at whatever rate of unemployment they occur, are the cause of
inflation.  In other words, some of the discussion even here on PEN-L seems
to be about the rate of unemployment at which rising wages trigger rising
prices.  That is disappointing for a list such as this, as has already been
remarked by someone.

Isn't the rate of unemployment and or the capacity utilization rate
a proxy for the level of demand at which capitalists collectively succeed
in raising prices?  And shouldn't that be the first point made in public
discussions of NAIRU?

Gene, excuse my torpidity, but I don't get the point in the second
paragraph. Would you please elaborate?






Blair Sandler
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