[PEN-L:10895] Re: religion

1997-06-18 Thread Karl Carlile

KARL CARLILE: Hi Robert!

ROBERT: In many ways we can secularize religion but not eliminate
it.  By that I mean, we cannot be purely rationalistic. In
particular, I would argue that Marxist-Leninism which I continue to
have strong sympathies for, was a secular religion. The vision of a
pure communistic society differed very little from a "heaven on
earth."  Moreover, it fulfilled a spiritual need to envision a just
and human world rather than being based on any rationality.

KARL: Robert there is no such political philosophy as
marxism-leninism. However there is a political philosophy called
Leninism of which Stalnism and Trotskyism are varieties. Leninism is
clearly not a form of marxism. At most it is a form of marxist
revisionism that has succeeded in twisting marxism into forms that
suits its ends. Now Leninism may be validly described as a form of
religion but hardly marxism.

On the other hand if you are describing marxism as a religion because
its goal is communism then you are completley off track. One of the
principal differences between Marxism and certain forms of
Christianity is that the former has as its goal communist society
because present concrete conditions, developments within capitalist
society, make it a real hisotorical possibility although not an
inevitablility. The key word here is historical. In contrast for
Christianity there exists a heavan that transcends the history and,
worse still, the terrestial world. The Christian heavan transcends
history whereas for the Marxist communist society is a product of
concrete historical conditions firmly rooted to terrestial reality. 

In short marxism is rooted in history and the concrete world while 
Christianity is essentailly transcendental forcing a false and 
illusory bifurcation between terrestial being and god or heavan. 

Consequently there obtains an antithetical relationship between 
Marxism and Christianity.
 
   Karl
  




  Yours etc.,
 Karl   





[PEN-L:10894] Re: religion

1997-06-18 Thread Karl Carlile

KARL CARLILE: God bless you Tom!

TOM WALKER: I agree with the notion that the left has a lot to learn
from religion.

KARL: Rubbish! If anything the large sections of the left are
religious. Consquenlty you create a false dichotomy between the two
practices. 

If anyhting huge sections of the Left need to abandon their religion. 

   
  




  Yours etc.,
 Karl   





[PEN-L:10896] Re: religion

1997-06-18 Thread Louis Proyect

Michael Yates:
Yesterday I posted a rquest for sources on the origins of religion (Marxist 
preferably) and got no response.  Yet we now are having a discussion of 
religion.  So let me repeat my request.


Maxime Rodinson: "Islam and Capitalism"

Israel Shahak: "Jewish Religion, Jewish Politics"
(Doug, I want this back.)

Karl Kautsky: "Foundations of Christianity"

Christopher Hill: "God's Englishman Oliver Cromwell"
(Hill's speciality is Marxist analysis of the role of Protestantism in the
British bourgeois revolution; has written a number of important books)

Bertrand Russell: "Atheism--Collected Essays"; "On God and Religion"

Louis Proyect







[PEN-L:10897] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-06-18 Thread Richardson_D

BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, JUNE 17, 1997

RELEASED TODAY:
 CPI -- On a seasonally adjusted basis, the CPI-U rose 0.1 percent 
in May, the same as in each of the preceding two months.  The food 
index, which declined in April, advanced 0.4 percent in May The 
energy index declined for the third consecutive month Excluding 
food and energy, the CPI-U rose 0.2 percent, following an increase of 
0.3 percent in April.  The smaller advance in May reflects downturns 
in the indexes for airline fares and tobacco and smoking products and 
a deceleration in the index for apparel and upkeep 
 REAL EARNINGS -- Real average weekly earnings advanced by 0.3 
percent from April to May after seasonal adjustment.  The increase was 
due to a 0.3 percent gain in average hourly earnings.  Both the CPI-W 
and average weekly hours were unchanged in May From May 1996 to 
May 1997, real average weekly earnings grew by 2.3 percent 

Introducing a new annual series on jobs among families, BLS reports 
that more than half of all married-couple families had both the 
husband and wife working in 1996. The 28.1 million married-couple 
families with two income earners amounted to 52.8 percent of all 
married couples.  The total number of such families was up by 460,000 
from 1995.  The new annual data series is a successor to BLS' 
quarterly report on employment and earnings of families [and an 
earlier annual series on marital and family characteristics].  The 
quarterly series was dropped after the release of 1993 data in 
February of 1994, according to BLS economist Howard Hayghe.  The 
decision to drop the quarterly series "was based  on the fact that the 
numbers didn't change that much on a quarterly basis" and the agency 
could save money by publishing the figures once a year," Hayghe said 
He pointed out that the new annual series includes more details 
than the quarterly reports on employment of fathers and of mothers 
with young children (Daily Labor Report, page D-1).

Physician assistants give extra attention at lower cost, filling a 
medical gap, says the Washington Post (page A1).  Physician assistants 
are providing primary health care in rural areas where people have 
little access to doctors, in inner-city clinics where people have 
little money for health care, and in hospitals and private doctors' 
offices where physicians caught up in the cost-cutting revolution of 
managed care have to see more patients in less time In the last 
two years alone, the number of schools offering PA programs leaped 33 
percent, from 64 to 85 BLS has predicted a growth rate for PAs of 
50 percent above the norm through 2005 

Manufacturing and construction growth, after a fast and furious 
quarter of expansion, is expected to cool off over the summer, 
industry executives said in Dun  Bradstreet surveys.  Separate 
surveys were conducted of 1,000 manufacturing executives and 200 
construction executives by D B in May (Washington Post, page 
D4).

For older employees, on-the-job injuries are more often deadly.  The 
little-known but significant risks faced by older workers, whose ranks 
in the job market are increasing, are described by the Wall Street 
Journal (page A1).  Advocates for the elderly tout the fact that 
people age 65 and older have half as many accidents as their younger, 
sometimes more reckless colleagues, according to data compiled by BLS. 
 But the agency paints a far harsher picture of the health effects of 
working into one's later years.  The federal studies, which compare 
accident and fatality rates to the worker population, show that older 
workers are nearly four times as likely as younger ones to die from 
job-related causes.  Older workers are five times as likely to have a 
fatal transportation accident, 3.8 times as likely to get killed by 
objects and equipment, and 3.4 times as likely to die in an assault. 
 The higher death rates exist across industry lines.  What's more, 
many of the 500 or so workers 65 and older killed each year are in 
physically demanding jobs that would challenge even much younger 
people, according to OSHA records of fatal accidents during the past 
decade To be sure, older people are more likely to die in 
accidents, whether they are working or not, the article says.  What 
concerns labor and health officials is that the older-worker fatality 
rates are surprisingly higher than expected, at a time when people are 
working well past traditional retirement age (A chart on fatal 
injuries per 100,000 workers by age, credited to BLS, has data from 
1992-93.)

Some companies are finding that a shorter workweek is a good 
recruiting tool in a time when many Americans see their work hours 
increasing.  The percentage of Americans in nonagricultural salaried 
jobs who worked 49 hours or more a week in 1973 was 14.2 percent; but 
was 18.5 percent in 1993, according to BLS figures (New York 
Times, June 13, page F9).

One 

[PEN-L:10901] Seeking Intern: Impact of War on the U.S. Economy

1997-06-18 Thread Alex Campbell

The National Center for Economic and Security Alternatives is seeking an
intern for the fall to examine the impact of war on the U.S. economy in the
20th Century.  Key questions to be examined include:
 What role has military spending played in providing a
"stabilizing" effect to the economy, especially maintaining / increasing
aggregate demand?
 What role have military conflicts had in justifying a greater role for
the government in ecnomic planning / management?
 What was the impact of these trends on U.S. income distribution?
 Which means of financing military expansion have been most beneficial to
the economy?
 What is the relation of military expansion to inflation? Which methods
for controlling the inflationary effects have been most effective?

We are seeking applicants with at least some graduate level experience in
macro-economics. If you or students you know are interested, please send me
an e-mail, or give me a call at 202 986 1373.  (Our internships are unpaid,
but we can offer some part-time employment doing clipping, filing, and other
administrative tasks.)

Sincerely,

Alex Campbell
Research Associate

Background on the National Center for Economic and Security Alternatives

The National Center for Economic and Security Alternatives was established
in 1977 as a non-profit corporation providing research, education and
consultation on innovative solutions to problems that face the American
economy.  Over the years the National Center has broadened its work to
include global issues ranging from the capacity of traditional reforms to
alter destructive ecological and other long-term trends, to international
security concerns related to arms control, nuclear weaponry, ethnic violence
and the general tendency of existing political-economic systems to lead to
greater conflict and divisiveness.  Since 1992, the National Center has
given increasing emphasis to the relationship of affirmed values to
system-wide problems, as illustrated in its current lead project, Toward a
Sustainable Democratic Society -- and to the history and ongoing dangers
presented by nuclear weapons.

The services and expertise of the National Center and its professional staff
based in Washington, D.C. have been used by federal agencies, state
governments, unions, nongovernmental organizations, local municipalities,
foundations and others concerned with community-based development.  Early
activities of the Center included directing a $2 million evaluation of Title
VII community development corporations, and intense involvement with the
attempt to establish a worker-owned steel plant in Youngstown, Ohio.  More
recently, a number of the Center's reports -- including "A Third Way:
Innovations in Community-Owned Enterprises" and "The Index of Environmental
Trends" -- have broken new ground in offering fresh approaches to economic
and environmental challenges.  The results of subsequent research findings
have been publicized in articles in such publications as The New York Times,
The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, MIT's Technology Review,
Sojourners and Social Policy magazine.

The President of the National Center for Economic and Security Alternatives,
Gar Alperovitz, is a political-economist and historian.  He is Harrison
Research Professor at the University of Maryland at College Park's
Department of Government and Politics and a Fellow of the Institute for
Policy Studies.  Dr. Alperovitz is also an expert in issues associated with
the development of nuclear weapons and arms control.  


Alex Campbell
Research Associate, National Center for
Economic and Security Alternatives

2317 Ashmead Place, NW
Washington, DC 20009
202 986 1373 (voice)/ 202 986 7938 (fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






[PEN-L:10903] Admirable self restraint

1997-06-18 Thread D Shniad

  Sid,
  
  In case you were expecting a rejoinder
  regarding your latest wave of EU-related
  posts, I'm not ignoring you.  I haven't changed 
  my mind.  I just don't have anything new to say.
  
  Cheers,
  
  MBS
 
 Max, it's not only legitimate to say nothing under such circumstances  --
 it's admirable!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Sid
 
 






[PEN-L:10907] This is the '90s

1997-06-18 Thread Louis Proyect

 June 18, 1997

 Economic Analysis: Those Were the Golden Days; This Is the '90s

 By LOUIS UCHITELLE

With the war barely over, Life magazine laid out, in a 1946 photo essay, a
"roseate and wondrous" American dream. A single-story stone-and-clapboard
home appeared in the centerfold photo. And spread over the front lawn were
the gadgets of the envisioned prosperity: a convertible, a three-burner
electric stove, a small television screen embedded in a bulky wooden
cabinet, a children's slide, flimsy aluminum lawn chairs, a plastic garden
hose, a gasoline lawn mower. 

 In hindsight, Life's vision was surprisingly modest. The next quarter-
century turned out to be a golden age, and as living standards rose, the
furnishings of Life's American dream became commonplace, even in the homes
of many working poor. 

 Then came 1973, one of the great turning points of the post-World War II
era. It was the year in which the dollar came off the gold standard; the
oil embargo struck; worldwide grain shortages developed. The widespread
rise in prosperity came to a halt. 

 Inflation, stagnant wages, shrinking unions, growing income inequality,
spreading poverty and outdated factories all left scars. An economy that
had been so plentiful for so many for so long suddenly followed a different
path, leaving big portions of the population behind. 

 Now the United States appears to be at another turning point. Some of the
hallmarks of the 1946-73 era are reappearing. Perhaps 1997 will turn out to
be as much a landmark in American economic history as 1973. But the new
age, if it materializes, is not likely to re-create the postwar sense of
bounty. 

 Instead, people are carrying into the future the residue of the stagnant
years, and their compromised expectations. Rather than counting on rising
prosperity, Americans are betting that by working ever harder, they may
manage to cling to leadership in the world economy. 

 "We are not in any sense back," said Robert Solow of the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology, a Nobel laureate in economics. "There may be some
economic measures that are equal to or even better than the pre-1973 years.
But not the level of well-being." 

 Three statistics from the old days have reappeared: a low inflation rate,
an unemployment rate of less than 5 percent and a return of corporate
profits, as a share of the overall economy, close to the hefty levels of
the 1960s. Not since the pre-1973 era have such hallmarks of a vibrant
economy coexisted so persistently. 

 Naturally enough, these parallels with the golden era are generating
considerable optimism. At McKinsey  Co., the consulting firm, William
Lewis, director of its Global Institute, declares that America's
competitive laissez-faire economy should be the model for all nations. 

 Wired, the monthly bible of the digerati, proclaims that the global
economy, led by the United States, is entering a "long boom," driven by
powerful new technologies and the spread of capitalism to nearly every
region of the world. And Fortune magazine, in a long article this month,
states flatly of America: "These are the good old days." 

 But for most Americans, it is not like the good old days. Holding onto a
job now takes precedence over upward mobility, or getting decent annual
raises. Just prolonging an expansion has become more important than
generating the robust economic growth that made the pre-1973 period golden.
Corporate success in global competition has become an overriding goal, even
at the price of greater wage inequality or leaving some groups behind. 

 Longer hours on the job have displaced the pre-1973 goal of more leisure
time to use the lawn furniture in Life's "family utopia." And job
insecurity -- "cowed labor," in the phrasing of the economist Paul
Samuelson -- has become an accepted means of prolonging the economic cycle,
mainly by suppressing wage increases and inflation. 

 "Before 1973," said Richard Curtin, director of the University of
Michigan's consumer confidence surveys, "there was this deep belief in
personal financial progress. In that sense, it is very different today. We
don't expect a recession. But we no longer have much faith that our incomes
will rise." 

 While many Americans have clearly acquired more possessions, prosperity
itself has a different meaning. The pre-1973 economy often expanded in a
given quarter at a 9 percent annual rate, or more. Since 1973, that has
never happened. But when growth reached 3.8 percent in the fourth quarter
of 1996 and a rare 5.6 percent in this year's first quarter, it was hailed
with glee. "What people once called inadequate growth they are more likely
to judge quite positively today," Curtin said. 

 Looking back, 1973 has taken on the watershed status in American economic
history of years like 1870, which ushered in the Gilded Age, and 1929, the
start of the Depression. 

 In 1973, the year the last American ground troops left Vietnam, the post-
World War II generation was suddenly 

[PEN-L:10912] Re: religion

1997-06-18 Thread HANLY

Recently Karl wrote:

KARL: Robert there is no such political philosophy as
marxism-leninism. However there is a political philosophy called
Leninism of which Stalnism and Trotskyism are varieties. Leninism is
clearly not a form of marxism. At most it is a form of marxist
revisionism that has succeeded in twisting marxism into forms that
suits its ends. Now Leninism may be validly described as a form of
religion but hardly marxism.

COMMENT: This sounds like some ideological Alice-in-Wonderland discourse
that upstages Shawgi Tell's Marxist-Leninists by far. At the very least
there have been groups for some time in Canada and elsewhere that have
called themselves Marxist-Leninists and whatever one may think of it
they have a political philosophyy and a political party through  which the
disseminate their views. The term Marxism-Leninism was also  used commonly
in the USSR as a term to describe the offical political philosophhy. In fact I
used a text written by a group of authors and edited by Dutt that was entitled
FUNDAMENTALS OF MARXISSM-LENISM. Maoists who thought that theUSSR oriented
communist party was not marxist-leninist often spoke of
marxism-leninism-mao-tse-tung thought; ironically when they ran as a party they
 ran as COMMUNIST PARTY( Marxist-Leninist). I am not sure whether the
group Shawgi is involved with are offspring of this tendency or not.
As for Leninism clearly not being a form of Marxism, I pass. No doubt bad
Christians aren't really Christians either. Karl must have some echt Marxism
in mind.
   Cheers, Ken Hanly






[PEN-L:10913] Megan's Law

1997-06-18 Thread James Devine

[the following is from the L.A. TIMES, June 18, 1997. I am posting it
because it is relevant to a pen-l discussion several months ago.] 

False Remedies Hinder Abuse Prevention 
Megan's Law: Most offenders are not murderers, not predators and not
incurable. 

By SHARON LAMB
 
While it may seem unfeeling to argue against a law that bears the name of a
sweet child, murdered and abused by a sexual predator who was her
  neighbor, it is an argument that needs to be made. 

Megan's Law states that a neighborhood must be informed when a convicted
perpetrator moves in. And this law plays on every wild sentiment and fear,
contradicting current knowledge and research in the area of child sexual abuse
prevention. The stated controversy is about the rights of convicts who have
supposedly "paid their dues" and now should be given a second chance. But
there
are several more important issues at stake. 

The law returns us to a belief strongly held in the first half of the
century that the
peril for children lies "out there" and not in the home. J. Edgar Hoover
launched a
campaign against sexual deviance that painted a picture of the corrupt
predator as a
stranger, the embodiment of evil, lurking around the corner. Researchers
today tell
us, however, that children are much more likely to be abused by a family
member,
close friend of the family or an adolescent boy who has never served time
for a
sexual offense. 

The law also groups all kinds of perpetrators of sexual abuse together into a
certain type that in actuality makes up a small percentage of all abuse
cases. Men
and boys who commit acts of sexual abuse are a heterogeneous lot. While
researchers
have tried to distinguish different types, the research often doesn't
support the
typology and we end up concluding that "it could be anybody." One type that
does
stand out, however, is the sexual predator or compulsive child sexual abuse
perpetrator. Although not representative of the majority, this type is used to
represent them all. And this is the type most resistant to treatment. 

That sex offenders are incurable is a myth constructed by the media. There are
successful programs that use group therapy, behavior management, empathy
training
and long-term character work that have had good results. These treatments
are costly
and rare, which primarily suggests that we do not know yet just how curable
sex
offenders are. Much more funding needs to be funneled into research in this
area, not
only through prison systems but through social service centers and
hospitals where
unconvicted sex offenders are identified. 

By creating a law pointing to a specific, probably untreatable subtype of sex
abuse offender, we point attention away from the mundane, "everyday" sexual
abuse
that is perpetrated on children and that stems from more general sociocultural
problems. Our society encourages boys and men to grow up feeling entitled to
certain sexual acts and that aggression and power assertion are viable ways
of coping
with needs and unpleasant emotions. While boys are filled with imagery of
what's
"sexy," they are given very little space to discuss and explore what's
sexual. What's
sexual can be pleasurable but also confusing and disturbing. What we may
need is a
hotline for young men to prevent sexual abuse before it happens. 

These perpetrators of abuse aren't sick but they do do awful things to
women and
children and they do need help to change. The problem with Megan's Law is
that it
shames perpetrators and isolates them from the very community that could be a
healing force. The chance for reparation along with treatment reconnects
offenders to
society while Megan's Law gives up on them, not just individually, but as a
group.
The cliche description of the neighbor sex offender--"He was a loner"--may
speak
volumes about prevention as well as recidivism. 

Most sexual abuse perpetrators are not murderers, not predators and not
uncurable. Picking out individual offenders for shaming and attack will
only support
an "us/them" mentality of most men and give neighbors a very false sense of
security. Prevention of sex abuse begins with a closer examination of cultural
practices that encourage such behaviors. 

 - - -

Sharon Lamb, an Associate Professor of Psychology at St. Michael's College in
Colchester, Vt., Is the Author of "The Trouble With Blame" (Harvard University
Press, 1996)

 Copyright Los Angeles Times 

[It is ironic that "Megan's Law," if it had been enacted at the time, might
have applied to J. Edgar Hoover. Of course, the rich and/or powerful can
often evade such laws.] 




in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ.
7900 Loyola Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90045-8410 USA
310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950
"Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way
and let people talk.) -- 

[PEN-L:10917] Re: Jospin's compromise

1997-06-18 Thread rakesh bhandari

John wrote:

Liberals in this country have focused on "jobs, jobs, jobs" and under
Clinton's watch "the economy" (reified) has generated lots of jobs, and
where has that got us ? I have not heard or seen Jospin utter one word
about the social and ecological use-values of these 700,000 new jobs. Do
the Communists and the Greens in France have any agenda as to the
use-value contents of a full employment strategy (I assume they do) ?

I recently read a disturbing editorial in the Wall Street Journal  by
Robert Eisner In attempting to vindicate the "positive" economic effects of
deficit spending, he seemed to use the Reagan budgets as evidence for the
effectiveness of Keynesian stimuli. Now it is possible that Eisner was not
approving the way money was channeled into the economy, but he didn't seem
to put much effort into criticizing the contents of Reagan's budgets
either. Very troubling (this problem has been explored by Narindar Singh,
The Keynesian Fallout. New Delhi: Sage, 1996)

There is also the interesting passage in Paul Crosser, State Capitalism in
the Economy of the United States (New York: Bookman, 1960):

"The problem whether the flow of money for the stimulation of the economy
is to be channeled into the production of nonwar goods or war goods does
nto enter the analytical pricture which Keynes offers: nor does Keynes
tackle the problem whether the money is to be spent on labor-intensive or
capital-intensive industries. Keynes's theoretical position can therefore
be invoked in regard to any  aspect of spending which is undertaken wth the
direct or implied purpose of stimulating production and employment. Those
who prefer government spending for public works can cite Keynes in their
favor, as can those who point to the greater economic effectiveness of
government spending for war goods production.

"Keynes's analysis is a purely formalistic logico-postivistic one which is
stripped of social economic content. His analytical framework is therefore
of little help in a tract such as this which strives to assess the impact
of government spending and the resultant changes in the structure of the
economy and society of a given country." (p.36)

Rakesh








[PEN-L:10920] progressive web sites

1997-06-18 Thread James Devine

Thanks, Paul, for posting the progressive web sites. 

For future lists of interesting or useful sites, it's best to leave in the
http:// 'prefix' since it allows a reader of the pen-l archives (at
http://csf.colorado.edu) to simply click on the address and access the
site. Maybe some people can even do this from e-mail programs.





in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ.
7900 Loyola Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90045-8410 USA
310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950
"It takes a busload of faith to get by." -- Lou Reed.






[PEN-L:10924] Re: religion (II)

1997-06-18 Thread rakesh bhandari

Attempting at present to follow the path blazed from Pascal to modern ideas
about probability and statistics, I found myself coming across an
interesting little book which I have been glancing through. Just thought I
would mention it.

J.E. Barnhart, 1977. The Study of Religion and Its Meaning: new
explorations in light of Karl Popper and Emile Durkheim. The Hague: Mouton.

From the jacket:

"The first four chapters show how religion becomes a universal human
phenomenon. Religion emerges with the awareness of one's condition of utter
finitude and contigency. This concern manifests itself in at least three
kinds of responses--cognitive, moral and emotional-ritual. Once these
responses begin to develop a *momentum* of their own, they give rise to new
problems and solutions.

"Chapters...explore the thesis that religious doctrines--functioning as
cognitive thrusts into the world--extend themselves by spawning new claims.
But new claims increase the possibility of falling upon severe
contradictions. Moral claims take on religious motivation whe, because of
conflict and contradiciton among hte claims, the sense of finitude looms.
Ritual behavior is religious insofar as it is a response to the intense
concern with finitude."

And here is a passage from the book:

"I hope I have exposed what my motive has been in calling for more
God-talk...I presuppose that all theological talk--or any other talk--will
eventually run into its share of contradictions. For some believers, this
is a frightful and threatening prospect, sufficiently threatening to make
them demand a moratorium on theology. For others, however, stepped up
God-talk is the challenge--and also the risk--of turning theology loose to
wind its course where it will. The development of new theoretical problems,
far from killing theology, can be an advance in creative metaphysical
thinking.

"Positivism, that bitter enemy of theology, would have damned up theology
so that it could not even generate more *problems*. Rarely keen and
insightful as critics of theology, positivsts sought to ignore, deport it,
and declare it unimportant (meaningless) Such anti-intellectualism has,
fortunately, been exposed as an arrogant imposition on human curiosity.
Postivism hated theology more than it loved the growth of knowledge."
(179-80)

Rakesh







[PEN-L:10926] Re: too rich

1997-06-18 Thread Michael Perelman

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 COMMENT: At least in the prairie provinces it is not urban sprawl which
 made the car necessary. First came wagons and horse power and smaller
 farms with many small towns, but with increased efficiency in agriculture
 farms increased in size and farmers migrated to other parts often cities.


I don't know about the spatial history of Canada, but I have read a bit
on the U.S.  Here speculators took up huge tracks of land forcing
farmers to move further West, creating sprawl.

 Ken also asks: Are you a Ghandian or something?

Not at all, in the strict sense, but I do think that we could go a great
way toward simplifying our lives.

I mentioned this idea before: 
Illich, Ivan. 1974. Energy and Equity (NY: Harper and Row).

   18-9: "The typical American male devotes more than 1600 hours a
   year to his car.  He sits in it while it goes and while it is
   idling.  He parks it and searches for it.  He earns the money to
   put down on it and to meet the monthly installments.  He works to
   pay for petrol tolls, insurance, taxes, and traffic tickets.  He
   spends four out of  sixteen waking hours on the road or gathering
   his resources for it.  And this figure does not take into account
   the time consumed by other activities dictated by transport; time
   spent in hospitals, traffic courts, and garages: time spent
   watching automobile commercials or attending consumer meetings to
   improve the quality of the next buy.  The model American puts in
   16,000 hours to get 7500 miles; less than 5 miles per hour."



 The car certainly makes larger sized farms and fewer small centres more
 practical. Are you saying this was a negative development? Are you a Ghandian
 or something?! I am not talking of hobby farms around an urban area, I am
 talking of bona fide farmers in an area where a section (a square mile) is
 not a large farm and where neighbours may be a couple of miles away. In
 ranching areas distances are much greater.
In response to:
  They are neithether a  toy nor even a luxury.
  When the nearest intercity bus service may be at a town 20 or 30 miles away
  and when the nearest doctor may that distance or further and when major
  shopping centres may be twice that a car may be necessity.
  Perelman notes:
 Sounds like an argument for public transportation.
 
 COMMENT: Certainly it is in part an argument for public transportation. Indeed
 with respect to school transportation the problem is solved in this manner.
 However, the costs of regular public transport to sparsely populated would be
 prohibitive and do not solve the problem of having to go to x place for a part,
 to go to the doctor for immediate treatment etc.etc. and it certainly does not
 address the necessity to transport goods via truck to elevators or stockyards
 or railheads. Some provinces such as Saskatchewan, under the CCF did develop
 solutions along the lines you suggest. Saskatchewan has a provincially owned
 bus service that gave regular service to virtually every village and hamlet in
 the province, but with pressures to reduce subsidies and for market viability
 and with rural depopulation adequate public transportation seems to be a thing
 of the past.
Cheers, Ken Hanly

-- 
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
 
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[PEN-L:10925] Re: too rich

1997-06-18 Thread HANLY


In reply to my remark that

 Many rural residents of both the US and Canada need cars
 (and trucks) for daily living. 
Michael Perelman writes:
Yes, but what is this need?  Because of the car we get sprawl which
makes the car necessary.

COMMENT: At least in the prairie provinces it is not urban sprawl which
made the car necessary. First came wagons and horse power and smaller
farms with many small towns, but with increased efficiency in agriculture
farms increased in size and farmers migrated to other parts often cities.
The car certainly makes larger sized farms and fewer small centres more
practical. Are you saying this was a negative development? Are you a Ghandian
or something?! I am not talking of hobby farms around an urban area, I am
talking of bona fide farmers in an area where a section (a square mile) is
not a large farm and where neighbours may be a couple of miles away. In
ranching areas distances are much greater.
   In response to:
 They are neithether a  toy nor even a luxury.
 When the nearest intercity bus service may be at a town 20 or 30 miles away
 and when the nearest doctor may that distance or further and when major
 shopping centres may be twice that a car may be necessity. 
 Perelman notes:
Sounds like an argument for public transportation. 

COMMENT: Certainly it is in part an argument for public transportation. Indeed
with respect to school transportation the problem is solved in this manner.
However, the costs of regular public transport to sparsely populated would be
prohibitive and do not solve the problem of having to go to x place for a part,
to go to the doctor for immediate treatment etc.etc. and it certainly does not
address the necessity to transport goods via truck to elevators or stockyards
or railheads. Some provinces such as Saskatchewan, under the CCF did develop
solutions along the lines you suggest. Saskatchewan has a provincially owned
bus service that gave regular service to virtually every village and hamlet in
the province, but with pressures to reduce subsidies and for market viability
and with rural depopulation adequate public transportation seems to be a thing
of the past. 
   Cheers, Ken Hanly






[PEN-L:10923] Re: Jospin's compromise

1997-06-18 Thread Doug Henwood

rakesh bhandari wrote:

"Keynes's analysis is a purely formalistic logico-postivistic one which is
stripped of social economic content. His analytical framework is therefore
of little help in a tract such as this which strives to assess the impact
of government spending and the resultant changes in the structure of the
economy and society of a given country." (p.36)

Keynes said in the GT that if the unemployment rate is 10%, that doesn't
mean that the other 90% are ill-employed; in fact, he essentially argued
that the only problem with capitalism was that the 10% were denied its full
charms. His policy innovations would realize the full beauties of the
"Manchester system."


Doug

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[PEN-L:10922] Re: religion

1997-06-18 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 01:49 PM 6/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
Recently Karl wrote:

KARL: Robert there is no such political philosophy as
marxism-leninism. However there is a political philosophy called
Leninism of which Stalnism and Trotskyism are varieties. Leninism is
clearly not a form of marxism. At most it is a form of marxist
revisionism that has succeeded in twisting marxism into forms that
suits its ends. Now Leninism may be validly described as a form of
religion but hardly marxism.

COMMENT: This sounds like some ideological Alice-in-Wonderland discourse
that upstages Shawgi Tell's Marxist-Leninists by far. At the very least
there have been groups for some time in Canada and elsewhere that have
called themselves Marxist-Leninists and whatever one may think of it
they have a political philosophyy and a political party through  which the
disseminate their views. The term Marxism-Leninism was also  used commonly
in the USSR as a term to describe the offical political philosophhy. In fact I
used a text written by a group of authors and edited by Dutt that was entitled
FUNDAMENTALS OF MARXISSM-LENISM. Maoists who thought that theUSSR oriented
communist party was not marxist-leninist often spoke of
marxism-leninism-mao-tse-tung thought; ironically when they ran as a party they
 ran as COMMUNIST PARTY( Marxist-Leninist). I am not sure whether the
group Shawgi is involved with are offspring of this tendency or not.
As for Leninism clearly not being a form of Marxism, I pass. No doubt bad
Christians aren't really Christians either. Karl must have some echt Marxism
in mind.
   Cheers, Ken Hanly


My comment: Debates on "ideological purity" generally are but hogwash, but
the issue gains some currency when the so-called managerial ideologies are
concerned.  Managerial ideologies are forms of corporate religion or
legitimating myths that are ostensibly based on scientific theories, but
they are a selective hodge podge of simplified version of those theories
mixed with common sense rules of thumbs, anecdotes and what not, crafted to
provide guidance to managerial personnel.  In order to successfully do so, a
managerial ideology must: create a sense of direction or higher purpose,
provide an illusion that something extraordinary or radically different from
some nondescript "past practices" is being done, but at the same time the
existing managerial practices values and beliefs remain essentially
unchanged, and gives a legitmacy to the position of the manager in the
hierarchy (for a discussion see Andrzej Huczynski, _Management gurus: what
makes them and how to become one_, London:1996).

The so called "Marxism-Leninism" was in fact such a managerial ideology, a
sort of Clifton notes on Marx selectively picked and adapted to the needs of
Russian indistrialization project (Alexander Gerschenkron, _Relative
Backwardness in a Historical Perspective_).  The same holds for Mao Tse tung
and his "golden thoughts" collected in "red books" freely distributed all
over the world by the Chinese during the late 1960s.  In that capacity,
these managrial ideologies were no different from the psycho-babble offered
by the human relation school, TQM, or the new buzzword -- "trust."  The
idiocy of such managerial ideologies in no way reflect the contents of the
scientific theories from which they were derived.

wojtek sokolowski 
institute for policy studies
johns hopkins university
baltimore, md 21218
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[PEN-L:10921] Re: Real Life Question

1997-06-18 Thread William S. Lear

On Wed, June 18, 1997 at 11:27:01 (-0700) Wojtek Sokolowski writes:
While I share Bill's principle of honest and open debate, I also recognise
the limits of the rational discourse.  ...

There is a difference between visions of the future and myths.  Myth
is, in my book at least, always a lie and must always, therefore, be
rejected in principle.  Trying to shoehorn this into the
rationality/maximization behavior of economic man does nothing to
dissuade me from this conclusion.

The point I'm getting at is that most if not all commodities can be
distributed in many alternative ways, and those choices of venue will
determine not only the demand/supply structure for different goods, but also
the "private" or "public" nature of the goods themselves (thus public
subsidies).  The choice of venue is a political one, and as such it must be
appealing to the population at large.  It is, therefore, the "right"
combination of the politcal clout of the promoters and the popular appeal of
a given choice that determines the political and economic success of that
choice.  

Then it seems you greatly misunderstand the U.S. political system.
Decisions made in the political system need only appeal to more than 0
people.  If the vast majority stay home because there is no choice
given except between Tweedledum and Tweedledee (both of whom are out
to rip off the populace), or if no choice at all is given to the
public, then the choice need not (obviously) appeal at all to the
population at large.  It can, in short, simply be foisted on people.
Claiming that today, folks are fond of automobiles (while ignoring
those who curse them daily) is just after-the-fact rationalization, in
my view.



Bill





[PEN-L:10918] History of Juneteenth

1997-06-18 Thread Hank Leland



http://www.juneteenth.com/history.htm

Title: History of Juneteenth











History of
Juneteenth





What
is Juneteenth?
Juneteenth is the oldest known
celebration of the ending of slavery. Dating back to
1865, it was on June 19th that the Union
soldiers, led by Major General Gordon Granger, landed at
Galveston, Texas with news that the war had ended and
that all slaves were now free. Note that this was two and
a half years after President Lincolns
Emancipation Proclamation - which had become official
January 1, 1863. The Emancipation Proclamation had little
impact on the Texans due to the minimal number of Union
troops to enforce the new Executive order. However, with
the surrender of General Lee in April of 1865, and the
arrival of General Grangers regiment, the forces
were finally strong enough to influence and overcome the
resistance. 
Later attempts to explain this two and
a half year delay in the receipt of this important news
have yielded several versions that have been handed down
through the years. Often told is the story of a messenger
who was murdered on his way to Texas with the news of
freedom. Another, is that the news was deliberately
withheld by the slave masters to maintain the labor force
on the plantations. And still another, is that federal
troops actually waited for the slave owners to reap the
benefits of one last cotton harvest before going to Texas
to enforce the Emancipation Proclamation. All or neither
could be true. For whatever the reason, conditions in
Texas remained status quo well beyond what was statutory.
General Order
Number 3
One of General Grangers first
orders of business was to read to the people of Texas,
General Order Number 3 which began most significantly
with:

The people of Texas are
informed that in accordance with a Proclamation from
the Executive of the United States, all slaves are
free. This involves an absolute equality of rights
and rights of property between former masters and
slaves, and the connection heretofore existing
between them becomes that between employer and free
laborer.

The reactions to this profound news
ranged from pure shock to immediate jubilation. While
many lingered to learn of this new employer to employee
relationship, many left before these offers were
completely off the lips of their former masters -
attesting to the varying conditions on the plantations
and the realization of freedom. Even with nowhere to go,
many felt that leaving the plantation would be their
first grasp of freedom. North was a logical destination
and for many it represented true freedom, while the
desire to reach family members in neighboring states
drove the some into Louisiana, Arkansas and Oklahoma.
Settling into these new areas as free men and women
brought on new realities and the challenges of
establishing a heretofore non-existent status for black
people in America. Recounting the memories of that
great day in June of 1865 and its festivities would serve
as motivation as well as a release from the growing
pressures encountered in their new territory. The
celebration of June 19th was coined
Juneteenth and grew with more participation
from descendants. The Juneteenth celebration was a time
for reassuring each other, for praying and for gathering
remaining family members. Juneteenth continued to be
highly revered in Texas decades later, with many former
slaves and descendants making an annual pilgrimage back
to Galveston on this date. 
Juneteenth
Festivities and Food
A range of activities were provided to
entertain the masses, many of which continue in tradition
today. Rodeos, fishing, barbecuing and baseball are just
a few of the typical Juneteenth activities you may
witness today. Juneteenth almost always focused on
education and self improvement. Thus often guest speakers
are brought in and the elders are called upon to recount
the events of the past.
Prayer services were also a major part of these
celebrations.
Certain foods became popular and
subsequently synonymous with Juneteenth celebrations such
as strawberry soda-pop. More traditional and just as
popular was the barbecuing, through which Juneteenth
participants could share in the spirit and aromas that
their ancestors - the newly 

[PEN-L:10916] Re: juneteenth?

1997-06-18 Thread Max B. Sawicky

 Date:  Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:26:13 -0700 (PDT)
 Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From:  James Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   [PEN-L:10909] juneteenth?

 My "Cat Lovers Against the Bomb" calendar (published by the Nebraskans for
 Peace and Canada's New Society Publishers) mentions that this coming
 Thursday is something called "Juneteenth."  What is this holiday? How do we
 celebrate? 

Slaves in Texas didn't hear of Lincoln's Emancipation
Proclamation for about two years.  When they did, the
day of official liberation was June 19th (I think),
which hereafter became known as the 'Juneteenth.'


MBS

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[PEN-L:10914] Re: juneteenth?

1997-06-18 Thread Michael Perelman


It celebrates the struggle against slavery.
 
 My "Cat Lovers Against the Bomb" calendar (published by the Nebraskans for
 Peace and Canada's New Society Publishers) mentions that this coming
 Thursday is something called "Juneteenth."  What is this holiday? How do we
 celebrate? 
 
 
 in pen-l solidarity,
 
 Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ.
 7900 Loyola Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90045-8410 USA
 310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950
 "It takes a busload of faith to get by." -- Lou Reed.
 
 


-- 
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

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[PEN-L:10915] Re: too rich

1997-06-18 Thread Michael Perelman

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

 Many rural residents of both the US and Canada need cars
 (and trucks) for daily living. 

Yes, but what is this need?  Because of the car we get sprawl which
makes the car necessary.

 They are neithether a  toy nor even a luxury.
 When the nearesintercity bus service may be at a town 20 or 30 miles away
 and when the nearest doctor may that distance or further and when major
 shopping centres may be twice that a car may be necessity. 

Sounds like an argument for public transportation.


-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
 
Tel. 916-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]





[PEN-L:10908] Re: too rich

1997-06-18 Thread HANLY

The way in which cars are spoken of on this list seems to me to reflect
an urban bias. Many rural residents of both the US and Canada need cars
(and trucks) for daily living. They are neithether a  toy nor even a luxury.
When the nearesintercity bus service may be at a town 20 or 30 miles away
and when the nearest doctor may that distance or further and when major
shopping centres may be twice that a car may be necessity. Trucks too are a
necessity for farm families.Grain must hauled to on-farm storage and
also greater and greater distancces to elevators as railroads rationalise
 and grain companies consolidate servvice in huge inland terminals that
may be long distances from individual farms. These aspects of vehicle
usee by individuals seems to be completely forgotten.Resorting to animal power
such as is happening in Cuba may be understandable as a result of necessity
and it certainly may have some positive externalities in terms of the
environment but it is not an ideal solution. Bennett buggies (horse drawn
automobiles) did not survive the depression and for good reason. No farmer
in his or her right mind would choose them over functioning cars.
   CHeers, Ken Hanly






[PEN-L:10909] juneteenth?

1997-06-18 Thread James Devine

My "Cat Lovers Against the Bomb" calendar (published by the Nebraskans for
Peace and Canada's New Society Publishers) mentions that this coming
Thursday is something called "Juneteenth."  What is this holiday? How do we
celebrate? 


in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ.
7900 Loyola Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90045-8410 USA
310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950
"It takes a busload of faith to get by." -- Lou Reed.






[PEN-L:10905] Re: Jospin's compromise

1997-06-18 Thread John Lawrence Gulick

Pen-l'ers,

Surely it can't come as any surprise that Jospin caved in to Blair and 
Kohl so easily, given the fact that the Socialists have long stood behind 
Maastricht, even if they disagreed with the fiscal austerity versions of 
same. Now that the official social democrats of Europe in their various 
stripes more or less agree on an EC in which the "socially excluded" are 
dealt with by being offered EC-backed loans if they are deemed 
credit-worthy (Clinton's domestic micro-credit model applied to EC), thus 
resurrecting the old liberal utopia of a nation of shopkeepers, what 
can/should the left reply in return ? 

Please, it should not revolve 
around holding Jospin to his promise to create 700,000 new jobs. The 
recent pen-l discussion on overwork and consumerism should drive home 
how bankrupt neo-Keynesian measures such as this are, be they achieved 
via subsidies to capital, or via state-driven taxing and spending. (I 
should say parenthetically that I am impressed with the maturity and 
subtlety of red-green thought on this list lately, so rarely have I 
encountered eco-socialist ideas on this list in the past). 
Liberals in this country have focused on "jobs, jobs, jobs" and under 
Clinton's watch "the economy" (reified) has generated lots of jobs, and 
where has that got us ? I have not heard or seen Jospin utter one word 
about the social and ecological use-values of these 700,000 new jobs. Do 
the Communists and the Greens in France have any agenda as to the 
use-value contents of a full employment strategy (I assume they do) ?
The Socialists' recent (and now discarded ?) advocacy of an EC-funded 
trans-European high speed rail system was all about reducing the turnover 
time of capital and bolstering EC competitiveness (and soaking up surplus 
labor-power simultaneously), nothing about the qualitative (i.e. quality 
of life and ecological) virtues of mass transit. 

Jospin's campaign 
promise of the 35-hour workweek and work-sharing seems a bit more 
palatable. But I would imagine it was only a rhetorical gesture with no 
strategy about how to achieve it (since Mitterand promised the same 15 
years ago, before money and investment capital markets were as fluid as 
they are today, and got thoroughly punished), and, anyway, alongside this 
proposal there was no mention of what social and ecological use-values 
reallocated labor would be accomplishing. Like the anarcho-punk 
demonstrator's billboard in Amsterdam read, "get a life, not a job". 
Social democracy is dead. It was normatively bankrupt, and now it is 
pragmatically bankrupt, b/c the international market will no longer 
tolerate it, its standard-bearers will no longer defend it. Cutting-edge 
social movements, recognizing that it was normatively bankrupt and is now 
politically impracticable, have moved on to pressure for better things.

John Gulick
Sociology Graduate Program
UC-Santa Cruz





[PEN-L:10906] RE: Gender and Strength

1997-06-18 Thread Bove, Roger E.


 There has been a program on this on The Learning Channel - it will 
probably be rebroadcasted several times, everything on TLC is.
Roger
 --
From: pen-l
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [PEN-L:10892] Gender and Strength
Date: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 6:03PM

In the January/February, 1997 issue of ARCHAEOLOGY magazine, there is an
article by Jeannine Davis-Kimball titled "Warrior Women of the Eurasian
Steppes."  The evidence from new archaeological digs finds that many women
were buried as warriors, with weapons and trappings of war.  The author
hypothesizes that the Amazon women of Greek mythology may have been more 
real
than mythical.

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]





[PEN-L:10904] Re: D'Souza Can Kiss My Brown Ass

1997-06-18 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 07:54 AM 6/13/97 -0700, Max Sawicky wrote:
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rakesh bhandari)
 Subject:   [PEN-L:10801] D'Souza Can Kiss My Brown Ass

The best answer to D'S and Murray stems from one of their
own findings, the implications of which have not been sufficiently 
explored.  In their research it turns out that Askenazi Jews have 
higher average intelligence than Caucasians.  It would follow
that to improve the gene pool, when the nubile daughters of
gentiles come of age they should be impregnated by Jews of Eastern 
European descent with Ph.D's.  Actual marriage, of course, would not 
be necessary because nature overrules nurture.  [Call now, 
appointments still available.]


Also, if someone conducted a paper-and-pencil test to, say, prove or
disprove the theory of relativity (I'm pretty sure such 'statistical
evidence' would be heavily against that theory) -- that person would be at
best laughed out of the stage, if not committed to a mental institution.
Somehow, doing genetics by paper-and-pencil tests is considered serious
enough to be subject to "scientific" debate, being published by "scientific"
publishers,  or even to warrant a tenure at Johns Hopkins.  True, the guy
who does this kind of stuff here is a sociologist with a mere PhD rather
than an actual medical degree, but still I wonder if this institution would
tolerate an astrologist in its engineering or physics dept.  
wojtek sokolowski 
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johns hopkins university
baltimore, md 21218
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[PEN-L:10902] Re: Real Life Question

1997-06-18 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 07:27 PM 6/12/97 -0700, Bill Lear wrote:

Wojtek then poses the "question for the Left", viz, how do we, like
some Platonic sage, appropriate or manufacture such "popular
mythologies ... with a potential for mass appeal".  The answer to the
Left, if there can be "an answer", surely lies not in leftish
mythologies (normally referred to as lies), but in honest and open
debate in which myths are exposed insofar as is possible and
discussion takes place within the bounds of shared concern and reason,
rather than the comforting shade of myth. 


I reply: That is an awfully difficult task to acomplish.  Any
Limabughtomised idiot with the access to a broadcasting system can spit out
myths and lies with the speed of a machine gun, but to refute those lies
takes meticulous effort and a certain degree of sophistication, not to
mention the audience's attention span.  It is like trying to save  the
Titanic by pouring water overboard with buckets... an honest effort, but
doomed to fail due to the overwhelming nature of the calamity.

While I share Bill's principle of honest and open debate, I also recognise
the limits of the rational discourse.  Whether phrased as "bounded
rationality" causing a deviance from the profit maximising behaviour, or as
"false consciousness" causing the masses to accept an exploitative social
order  -- we are facing the same kind of problem: the discrepancy between
rational behaviour and motives as depicted by experts, and actual behaviour
and motives of real-life human actors.  Demeaning the latter as less than
perfect rationality which, in the recorded history of Western thought can be
tracked back to Socrates (people do evil only when they do not know what
good really is) may, the words of the Old Man, "explain the world
differently" but does little to actually change it.

It seems that capitalists have no problems with using popular mythologies,
from "backward" patriarchy, to racism, and to "modern" individualism and the
cult of technology to maintain a  social hierarchy with themselves on the
top of it -- the exhortation of economists of both, the rat-choice and the
Marxist variety, notwithstanding.  In fact, the tremendous popularity of the
the free market mythology is the result of its myhtical appeal to the idea
of freedom rather its rationality and explanatory power.  By scientific
standards, the explanatory power of the rat-choice approach is virtually nil.

A while ago at some labour-related conference in Boston, someone expressed a
view that labour, and the Left in genereal need a new set of stories or
myths with a mass appeal.  That proposition stirred a heated debate, with
the more positivistically oriented types objecting to any hint that "our"
ideology might be somehow connected with "myths," which have an aura of
irrationality and falsehood.  

I have no such reservations.  Myths are not necessarily falsehoods, except
perhaps in a narrowly positivistic sense.  Oftentimes, they are utopias, but
if they have a sufficent appeal, they can motivate people to turn the unreal
into the actual.  Moreover, myths are actually more democratic than
rationalistic formulations, because they allow a great latitude of
"interpretation from below" (cf. the ubiquity of religious experience which
has little to do with religious doctrine) -- while the latter are quite
rigid standards that only the experts, i.e. some form of authority, can
understand and interpret. 

Marianne's and Jim's comments on the automobile interpreted as a "personal
space" is a case in point.  By the same logic, I interpret the automobile as
the device that alinenates me from both other people and the environment,
whereas I see the train (the European variety that has compartments with 2
rows of seats facing each other) as a space that allows interacting and
socialising with others. I guess both interpretations have little to do with
the the visions of transportation planners who are primarily concerned with
the most efficient way of moving n number of people from a to b.

So, far from being falsehoods, myths can be a power ful tool in "changing
the world" even though they might not be doing a great job in explaining it
by scientific standards. 

As far as the comparison between automobile and the nuclear energy is
concerned, it is not enough to say that the "gummint" built the
infrastrcture for one but not for the other.  I simply do not buy the
elasticity argument or kindred line of thinking that tries to deduce the
instituionalised commodity distribution from the alleged properties of the
commodity itself (isn't it the essence of commodity fetishim?).  That is,
elasticity obtains not from the "nature" of the product itself, but from the
institutional arrangements of product distribution.  And the latter are
always socially constructed.

In other words, there might be no real substitutes for a private auto in a
suburban environment, but such an environment was built on the assumption of
private auto being the main 

[PEN-L:10900] Re: Progressive Web Sites

1997-06-18 Thread Doug Henwood

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have also been a regular visitor to Doug Henwood's LBO site (www.
panix.com/~dhenwood/LBO_home.html) which not only has a judicious
selection of articles from past issues of LBO, but also has a some
what shorter list of links to progressive sites and, what is
useful for the economists, links to data sites and not just
American (i.e. includes links to Stats Canada.)

There'll be a lot more there in a couple of days - more links, as well as
updates on the U.S.employment/unemployment/earnings charts, and a new set
of pages on GDP and on income distribution and poverty. Foreign stats will
arrive in the next update, in a month or two - probably wage levels and
income/poverty figs from the Luxembourg Income Study to start with. If I
had the time, I'd love to keep a section with up-to-date reference and
commentary on major economic indicators. But it takes some time to take an
Excel chart and tune it up in Illustrator and Photoshop

Plus, you can order my world-transforming new book, Wall Street, at the web
site (http://www.panix.com/~dhenwood/Book_info.html)!


Doug

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[PEN-L:10899] Visit of Amnesty head to Mumia Abu-Jamal (fwd)--URGENT

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Zarembka

URGENT ATTENTION REQUIRED.  P.Z.

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Subject: visit of Amnesty head to Mumia Abu-Jamal
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URGENT ACTION: Write Amnesty International in support of the Secretary
General's visit with Mumia Abu-Jamal

Earlier this year, Amnesty International's Secretary General Pierre Sane
planned to visit Mumia Abu-Jamal in prison. Unfortunately, conservative
members of Amnesty International USA (AIUSA) in Philadelphia blocked the
visit.  Among their reasons for opposing the visit: the death penalty is
a human rights violation in this country and Mumia's case should not
receive this attention because it would take away from other death-row
prisoners.

Based in London, Pierre Sane of Senegal is the first Black person to
head Amnesty International world-wide.  The visit was originally
proposed to Mr. Sane by an anti-death penalty activist and long-time
friend of Mumia who worked as a consultant for Amnesty.  Mr. Sane was
immediately enthusiastic about the idea.

Time magazine (6/16/97) acknowledged Mumia's case is "not atypical."  It
provides a microcosm of the racial, economic and political biases
structurally embedded in our criminal justice system.  His trial (and
appellate) judge, Albert Sabo, is responsible for more than twice as
many death row sentences than any judge in the country.  Mumia was
sentenced in Philadelphia, where over 60% of those sentenced to death
are African American.  He is held at Pennsylvania's super-maximum
security prison, where he spends 22 hours a day alone in his cell and is
punished for publishing his writings.

Mumia's case is riveting world-wide attention to the injustice of the U.
S. death penalty.  His book, "Live from Death Row," and his radio
commentaries give public voice to more than 3,000 men and women now on
death row in the U.S.

Amnesty International USA is now re-examining its decision to block Mr.
Sane's visit.  Feedback is being solicited from Amnesty members and
staff about Mr. Sane's possible visit to Mumia.  A copy of their memo
follows.

Tell Amnesty that you support Secretary General Pierre Sane's visit
because it would demonstrate Amnesty International's public commitment
to fighting the death penalty in the U.S.  The international support
movement for Mumia has served to focus public criticism of capital
punishment.  Be sure to indicate in your letter if you are a member of
Amnesty.

Feedback must be sent by Friday, June 20.  Send your messages to:
Gerald Lemelle, Deputy Executive Director for Action AIUSA,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 212-627-1451 (fax)
Phyllis Pautrat, Member of the Board of Directors of AIUSA,
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[PEN-L:10898] Progressive Web Sites

1997-06-18 Thread PHILLPS

A couple of weeks ago I asked on Pen-l for suggestions of progressive
web sites suitable to provide up to date material for a local social
action newsletter produced by a collective of retired, but socially
(progressive) concerned clergy.  I had only five replies, two of which
asked that I post a list of the suggestions to Pen-l.  All of the
suggestions that were made were also made to the entire list so it
may not be necessary to repost them.  However, at risk of repetition,
here they are with a few comments on my brief forays at checking them
out.

The first concern of my friend was keeping up to date on the New Zealand
experiment with radical neo-liberalism.  Bill Rosenberg responded (you can
can review his complete list of suggestions through the csf archives -
more on this later) with the general Web site of the library at Lincoln
University http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/libr. (hereafter, I will omit the
http:// 'prefix').  The link to political and other current affairs on
this site is called Ara Nui.  Through that I found the Council of Trade
Unions site (www.union.org.nz/) which had the article updating the
NZ 'miracle' that Sid Shniad posted a couple of days ago on this list.
The left/labour political sites are the Alliance (www.alliance.org.nz)
and the Labour Party (www.labour.org.nz). For political news Bill
suggested Newsroom (www.newsroom.co.nz) but I did not check it out.
Incidentally, last time I tried the lincoln library site, I could not
get it, I don't know why.

Sid Shniad suggested the web site of the Canadian Centre on Policy
Alternatives (www.policyalternatives.ca) which I did.  What is
particularly useful about this site, in addition to a number of the
most important articles from the Centre's excellent monthly magazine,
the Monitor, is the long list of links to other, not just Canadian,
progressive/left sites.

Max Sawicki pointed me not just to the web site of EPI (epinet.org)
but to the economic policy site sponsored by American Prospect which
has another long, long list of links to progressive (and some not so
progressive) sites. The URL for this is epn.org.

I have also been a regular visitor to Doug Henwood's LBO site (www.
panix.com/~dhenwood/LBO_home.html) which not only has a judicious
selection of articles from past issues of LBO, but also has a some
what shorter list of links to progressive sites and, what is
useful for the economists, links to data sites and not just
American (i.e. includes links to Stats Canada.)

I would also point to the archives at csf.colorado.edu which includes
the pen-l, Pkt, progressive sociologists, and the environment list (the
name escapes me at the moment) archives which also has a search engine
for exploring these archives.  More detail on Bill's response re
NZ, for example can be found in these archives under his name.

I had no response from anyone outside North America and New Zealand.
However, there are links from the sites mentioned above to some other
countries/continents.  For instance, the NZ CTU site had links to
the British TUC and the Australian ACTU.  However, if anyone has any
other suggestions, please feel free to respond.

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba