Re: Fast Track Down, Not Out/Progressive Populist 12/97

1997-12-03 Thread Max B. Sawicky

> From:  john gulick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Max,
> 
> Jim Cullen's response, while I disagree with it, was thoughtful and
> to the point. Yours, on the other hand, was shameless parodying and
> misrepresentation of my viewpoint. (I don't mind humorous barbs -- in fact I

A parody is indeed a misrepresentation, albeit one intended to make a 
point.  Believe me, you weren't the only one, or even the principal 
one I was thinking of -- only the one with the misfortune to be 
the most recent poster.

> have enjoyed your frequent humorous barbs -- but now you've entered the
> slippery territory of out-and-out caricature).
> 
> I'll get back to both of you gents in the next few days when I get a
> chance. Suffice it to say for now that I myself have never presented
> the U.S. working class as a homogenous bunch of overconsuming and racist
> ignoramuses. All I did was question (in perhaps too polemical a form)

You didn't but others have in the past, and the fruits of this 
ignoble tradition remain in evidence, to some extent.

> the ethical and political wisdom of an anti-MAI and anti-free trade
> strategy which in some ways doesn't sound dramatically different from
> the "solutions" being offered by Buchanan or Le Pen in France (save the
> overt immigrant-bashing).

On this last, if you look more closely at each you ought to find 
numerous differences in basic principles and details.  We've had this 
argument before on PEN-L so I won't rehash what I and others have 
said in this regard.

Those for whom the shoe fits the best will be the most offended, 
though they may not choose to cultivate an aloofness which 
aims to underline the insignificance of my worthless self.

Worse things have been said to me about me by once and future friends 
of mine on this list, among other places, so you need to cultivate a 
thicker skin and separate personal feelings from political 
controversy, however bitter the latter may get.  I have a friend on 
another list who tells me about twice a week that liberals are the 
scum of the earth, the bane of working class, and the 
grave-diggers of the revolution.  Sure.  Whatever turns you on.

Nobody's going to lose any sleep over this.

Regards,

Max






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Re: General strike in Israel! (fwd)

1997-12-03 Thread valis

Noting Sid's posting, I checked backed to the General Strike Website
Eric Lee had set up in September.  To my surprise it was still functioning.
Here is an editorial I found in Globes, billed as Israel's foremost
online financial sheet.  The compassion for labor evident here probably 
stems from the blurring of class boundaries and interests to be expected 
in a state still shaped by ideological nation-building.
As for the pending sell-off of various state enterprises, 
for recent immigrants from Russia it must be deja vu all over again!

valis


   Wednesday, Dec 3, 1997 Sun-Thu at 18:00 (GMT+3) 
   Editorial
   Voice of Fear 
   
   By Nahum Baratz
   
   To watch the Tel-Aviv sanitation workers' demonstration, or the
   hastily convened meeting of employees that prompted the Histadrut
   Chairman to declare "We will close down the State as from tonight",
   was to realise that, whatever their differences, workers in the
   various sectors had one thing in common, namely their fear.
   
   The sanitation workers fear the advent of private contractors who may
   in future replace them. Workers in Israel Aircraft Industries, Israel
   Military Industries etc., fear what rehabilitation plans may mean for
   their future job security. Employees of banks and other companies fear
   the transition to private ownership. And overshadowing all these is
   fear of the change the Ministry of Finance seeks to institute in the
   pension agreement.
   
   The workers are not striking over worse conditions, but over the
   menace of an uncertain future. The future certainly looks threatening,
   not just as far as employment and pensions are concerned, but in
   general. Who can compete against workers from the Far East? Or the
   Middle East? Where will it all end with those mysterious, computerised
   instruments, so much smaller and more efficient than even the most
   diligent workers? What assurance do Israeli workers have that next
   year, they too will not be replaced by cheap foreign labour?
   
   In short, as the workers see it, will anyone give a toss for them in
   the future? Will anybody even need them?
   
   The strike, then, is not against a specific employer, stubbornly
   refusing a wage increment, but against the State, and against the path
   along which it is heading. The State, as far as the workers are
   concerned, has been slipping out of their grasp in recent years, and
   this is not specifically related to the present government. The
   workers play no part in the entire process of privatisation,
   globalisation, exposure to import, the opening up of communication
   channels, high-tech issuance or the ingress of foreign investors. Not
   only do they not belong to the group that is profiting from the deal,
   but they have a feeling they cannot even explain, that they are going
   to be on the losing end.
   
   They are afraid of the future. It is quite natural that their leader
   is an old-style moustachioed swashbuckler, looking like the good old
   days, when the Hebrew working man at least laboured under the delusion
   of being respected. Not by chance, they are confronted today by a
   legal eagle of a Finance Minister, who swims like a fish in the waters
   of mammoth transactions, investment and flotation. And he, the
   minister, also seems to be doing everything he can think of to
   frighten them, if possible, even more.
   
   It was this staggering burden of fear that the workers brought to the
   strike, today.
   _
  
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Re: Global Economy

1997-12-03 Thread Dennis R Redmond

On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Richardson_D wrote:

> > Looking to the future, it would seem that the Fed could support the
> > stock market more or less indefinitely this way, almost regardless of
> > what is happening to the U.S. (or even the world) economy.  This would
> > be why New York price earnings ratios are at historic highs as the
> > world economy slides slowly into recession (depression?) and no one is
> > particularly concerned.  Aside from the U.S. and its rather anemic
> > Clinton boom, the only countries that come to mind as doing reasonably
> > well are the U.K. and The Netherlands.

First, a qualifier: per capita growth from 1989-96 has been stronger in
Central Europe and Japan than in the US or UK, and their currencies have
appreciated somewhat against the dollar. Old Nazi trick here: the bigger
the lie, the easier it is to turn it into the new orthodoxy. 

Second, I seriously doubt Greenspan is too happy about the Wall Street
Bubble or desirous of seeing it expand any further. Lately the Dow has
shot back up to 8000, based on nothing more than sheer optimism that the
business cycle doesn't exist. Not even the bull market of the Roaring
Twenties, when Capital was King and labor unions were illegal,
ever got this loopy. Greenspan is an austere central banker, not
a punter, and knows a rip-roaring financial asset inflation when he sees
one; which puts the Fed into something of a quandary. Raising rates would
halt the bubble, but wreck the expansion and cause the whole house of
credit cards to fall apart. Lowering rates would defuse the situation but
make the bond market unhappy and put the hurt on the US dollar -- which
the neo-Victorians in power right now don't want to do. They think that by
keeping the dollar strong, they can export deflation onto East Asia and
get away with it. They're wrong, and Greenspan on some level knows they're
wrong, but is trapped by his own low-inflation orthodoxy, which can
explain away the inflation of everything except that of financial assets.

What makes the oncoming recession scary for America is that there is a
great deal of highly leveraged/asset-based debt in the American credit
system today, much of it based on wishful thinking rather than real
earnings streams, so you have the potential for a royal banking smash-up.
This is less of a problem for Japan and Europe, which already have
superlow interest rates and have been bailing out their credit markets for
eight years running. Come a recession, they'll just increase the bailout
fund from their capacious reserves as global creditors. We can't do that
anymore, ergo Wall Street's manic belief in the eternal rise of the
market: stock liquidity really is the last card post-Imperial America
has left to play. 

> The puzzling thing about this scenario is the maintenance of U.S. demand
> for goods and services.  Over the last few years the U.S. Govt. deficit
> has declined precipitously and the balance of trade has worsened as
> well.  Why are we not seeing a dramatic reduction in sales and output?

I.e. a recession? Mostly because the US went $1 trillion in hock to its
foreign creditors, and internal credit expansion (everything from credit
cards to student loans) expanded mightily during the Nineties. Plus,
the Rightwing warlords in Congress refused to cut the military in a
big way, which helped to stabilize effective demand. But we've been
living on borrowed time, no question about it. Let's just hope the EU and
Japan finally get serious about re-starting the global economy, and bail
us out of this mess.

-- Dennis






Re: Fast Track Down, Not Out/Progressive Populist 12/97

1997-12-03 Thread Max B. Sawicky

> Jim Cullen responds:
> 
> The tone of your criticism is one of the reasons that most American workers
> would just as soon export liberals to Myanmar, rather than support their
> causes. My editorial appeals to the self-interest of American workers
> because they are the ones who can have an impact on United States trade
> policy.  .  .  .

You see, Jim, that was your problem.  There is a certain mindset 
which holds the consumption needs and habits of, say, the top 75 
percent of the U.S. population to be environmentally excessive and 
aesthetically vulgar.  The working class is mostly outside the U.S. 
(those inside the U.S. often not working) and lives in a world with 
no legitimate borders, state, or need for such oppressive things as 
law enforcement.  You have to go back to Lin Piao, where the peasants 
of the periphery would surround and engulf the developed capitalist 
world and its fat, racist, sell-out worker-aristocrats.

Get with the program! (sic)

> I suppose at a moral level perhaps it is unworthy of us to couch our
> arguments in self-interest, but at a practical level I don't see anything
> wrong with an American worker getting involved politically to protect his
> or her livelihood.

Tsk tsk.

Out at the shack, building my next "surprise,"

Max



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Re: FW: LITTLE JESSICA

1997-12-03 Thread Ajit Sinha

At 09:47 1/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I saw a similar message to this one which was subsequently stated to be a
>fraud.  I believe one should verify such messages before circulation and
>I doubt the authenticity of this one.
>
>Paul
___

Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! I had no idea that it was a hoax. Cheers, ajit sinha
>
>***
>Paul Zarembka, using OS/2 and supporting  RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY
>at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PZarembka
>***
>
>
>On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Ajit Sinha wrote:
>
>> >Hi ! Everybody,
>> >
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>> >ACUTE AND VERY RARE CASE OF CEREBRAL CARCINOMA. THIS CONDITION
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>> >
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>> >colleagues as you can. It's for a good cause, so please don't just
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>> >
>> >Thank you.
>> >
>> >JSR
>> >
>> 
>
>






Re: Fast Track Down, Not Out/Progressive Populist 12/97

1997-12-03 Thread john gulick

Max,

Jim Cullen's response, while I disagree with it, was thoughtful and
to the point. Yours, on the other hand, was shameless parodying and
misrepresentation of my viewpoint. (I don't mind humorous barbs -- in fact I
have enjoyed your frequent humorous barbs -- but now you've entered the
slippery territory of out-and-out caricature).

I'll get back to both of you gents in the next few days when I get a
chance. Suffice it to say for now that I myself have never presented
the U.S. working class as a homogenous bunch of overconsuming and racist
ignoramuses. All I did was question (in perhaps too polemical a form)
the ethical and political wisdom of an anti-MAI and anti-free trade
strategy which in some ways doesn't sound dramatically different from
the "solutions" being offered by Buchanan or Le Pen in France (save the
overt immigrant-bashing).

Best,



At 03:32 PM 12/3/97 +, Max Sawicky wrote:

>> Jim Cullen responds:
>> 
>> The tone of your criticism is one of the reasons that most American workers
>> would just as soon export liberals to Myanmar, rather than support their
>> causes. My editorial appeals to the self-interest of American workers
>> because they are the ones who can have an impact on United States trade
>> policy.  .  .  .
>
>You see, Jim, that was your problem.  There is a certain mindset 
>which holds the consumption needs and habits of, say, the top 75 
>percent of the U.S. population to be environmentally excessive and 
>aesthetically vulgar.  The working class is mostly outside the U.S. 
>(those inside the U.S. often not working) and lives in a world with 
>no legitimate borders, state, or need for such oppressive things as 
>law enforcement.  You have to go back to Lin Piao, where the peasants 
>of the periphery would surround and engulf the developed capitalist 
>world and its fat, racist, sell-out worker-aristocrats.
>
>Get with the program! (sic)
>
>> I suppose at a moral level perhaps it is unworthy of us to couch our
>> arguments in self-interest, but at a practical level I don't see anything
>> wrong with an American worker getting involved politically to protect his
>> or her livelihood.
>
>Tsk tsk.
>
>Out at the shack, building my next "surprise,"
>
>Max
>
>
>
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1997-12-03 Thread Richardson_D

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> Hi -
> The following is a comment I had for Sam Smith, the editor of the
> Progressive Review.  It complements our recent discussion of global
> finance in that it focuses more on the real economy.
>=20
> Dave
>=20
> --
> Sent:  Tuesday, November 25, 1997 12:35 PM
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Progressive Review On-Line #64
>=20
> PROGRESSIVE REVIEW   =20
> ON-LINE REPORT #64
> November 25, 1997
>=20
> WAS MARKET RIGGED?=20
>=20
> When the American stock market sagged in October, something odd and
> unexplained happened. The Dow dropped 180 points, then there came a
> sudden
> surge in S&P 500 stock index futures. In fact, points out the New =
York
> Post'
> s John Crudelle, they jumped a huge 35 points ahead of the value of
> the
> index itself. The question Crudelle asks: "Did people just see
> Monday's
> sell-off as a buying opportunity and decided to take advantage =
through
> the
> futures markets? Or did something else go on, perhaps Washington
> intervention?"
>=20
> In fact, in 1989 former Federal Reserve Board member Robert Heller
> proposed
> just such an intervention, writing in the Wall Street Journal:
>=20
> "Instead of flooding the entire economy with liquidity, and thereby
> increasing the danger of inflation, the Fed could support the stock
> market
> directly by buying market averages in the futures market, thus
> stabilizing
> the market as a whole."=20
>=20
> Even if the scheme works in the short-run there are a number of
> important
> questions:
>=20
> --Is it legal?
> --Could it just cover up chronic economic deficiencies that will
> appear later?
> --And, notes Crudelle, "If Wall Street believes Washington did come =
to
> its
> aid this time and will always come to its aid, then arrogance and =
over
> confidence will cause investors to continue to pay too much for
> equities."
>=20
> --
> From:  Richardson_D
> Sent:  Monday, December 01, 1997 11:18 AM
> To:  'The Progressive Review'
> Subject:  RE: Progressive Review On-Line #64
>=20
> Hi Sam -
> I think this is an important piece of news to get out-as far as I can
> see it was not reported in the Washington Post, for example.  While I
> have no direct evidence on whether your suppositions are correct I am
> morally certain that you are on the right track.  As the Heller quote
> implies, the Fed did flood the system with credit to stop the market
> collapse in 1987.  It is easy to believe that buying futures would be
> seen as a cheaper and more conservative strategy.  In fact it may not
> be more conservative: why not just buy the equities (voting shares
> only please) and keep them, thereby beginning the socialization of =
the
> economy?
>=20
> Looking to the future, it would seem that the Fed could support the
> stock market more or less indefinitely this way, almost regardless of
> what is happening to the U.S. (or even the world) economy.  This =
would
> be why New York price earnings ratios are at historic highs as the
> world economy slides slowly into recession (depression?) and no one =
is
> particularly concerned.  Aside from the U.S. and its rather anemic
> Clinton boom, the only countries that come to mind as doing =
reasonably
> well are the U.K. and The Netherlands.
>=20
> As for the future of the central bank supporting the stock market, we
> already have an example of this.  The Japanese central bank began
> supporting the market sometime in the 1950's, after the protectorate
> ended, and continued through the 1980's.  This was a tiger by the =
tail
> situation and by 1989 the bank at least partly threw in the towel.
> Since then the Japanese market index has fallen from about 27,000 to
> about 17,000 today.  The bank was not ready to let the market crash
> but the result of its partial support is the current Japanese
> recession / depression, now in its 8th year.
>=20
> The U.S. market is even worse off than has been reported.  According
> to Greider's One World the share of equity in profit (I think he =
means
> returns to capital) has fallen from about 1/3 in the 1960's to about
> 15% today.  Since earnings are net of interest this leveraging =
results
> in higher earnings per share AS LONG AS PROFITS KEEP INCREASING.  =
When
> profits begin to fall we get what is charmingly called "reverse
> leverage."  If, for example, profits were to fall 5% with say 65% =
debt
> financing as in the 60's the value of the stock should decline by
> 5%/(100%-65%)=3D1/7.  With 85% debt financing as now a 5% fall in =
profit
> should result in a decline in the stock of 1/3=3D5%/(100%-85%).
> Therefore the Fed will have its hands full in keeping stock prices
> from declining.
>=20
> This is especially true as the IMF forces deflation on the East Asian
> economies, thereby reducing demand for U.S. export

Re: utopias

1997-12-03 Thread Ricardo Duchesne

> Date sent:  Tue, 02 Dec 1997 12:37:26 -0500
> Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From:   Robin Hahnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:Re: utopias


Hahnel writes: 

> One great thing about participatory planning is it eliminates the free
> rider problem for expressing desires for public goods. Laws?
> Enforcement? I'm an economist. Ask lawyers and criminologists about a
> desirable system of law enforcement. No private property at all. Not
> really any money either. People get effort ratings from their peers at
> work that entitle them to consumption rights -- which they can save or
> get advancements on (borrow).


No money, no private property!? Is this "war-communism" revisited? 





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BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, DECEMBER 2, 1997

RELEASED TODAY:  The proportion of U.S. workers who hold contingent jobs
- basically those jobs that are not expected to last - declined slightly
in the two years between February 1995 and February 1997.  Using three
alternative estimates, contingent workers accounted for 1.9 to 4.4
percent of all employment in February 1997; the range was 2.2 to 4.9
percent in February 1995.  The analysis in the release is focused on the
broadest estimate of contingent workers.  During this two-year period,
there was little change in the proportions of the employed who had
alternative work arrangement - those identified as independent
contractors, on-call workers, working for temporary help agencies, and
working for contract firms 

Although still expanding, the U.S. manufacturing sector  experienced a
modest slowdown in terms of orders and employment  during November,
according to the latest National Association of Purchasing Management
survey.  Employment in factories grew again last month, but at a slower
pace than in recent months It was the ninth consecutive month that
the group's employment index showed job growth.  NAPM said that the
seven industries that reported job growth in November were petroleum,
food, furniture, chemicals, primary metals, transportation and
equipment, and industrial and commercial equipment and computers.  There
was mixed news on the inflation front In November, 15 percent of
purchasing executives reported paying higher prices, 13 percent reported
paying lower prices, and 72 percent said prices were about unchanged
from the prior month (Daily Labor Report, page A-1)_A closely
watched gauge of manufacturing cooled in November, reflecting slowdowns
in new orders and production that suggested factory activity peaked
earlier in the year.  The NAPM index has fallen for three of the past
four months after reaching a two-and-a-half-year high in July (New
York Times, page D2)_Manufacturing growth slowed slightly in
November, but showed no sign of Asia's financial crisis New orders
for exports accelerated for the month, indicating that overseas business
remains strong despite sharp cuts in projected growth in Southeast Asia
and Japan (Wall Street Journal, page A2).  

Spending on new construction edged up 0.1 percent in October as gains in
public construction and home building offset declines in commercial
construction, the Commerce Department reports (Daily Labor Report,
page A-3)_October was the fourth consecutive month without a decline
in new construction, reflecting gains in housing and government projects
.(Washington Post, page D2).

The Wall Street Journal's "Work Week" column (page A1) reports that
demand for new workers remains strong for early 1998.  The new year
looks great for both rank-and-file and executive job-hunting.  "Nearly
every industry is still trying to find people," says the CEO of
Manpower, Inc.  Nearly one-fourth of 16,000 businesses Manpower recently
surveyed said they planned to seek extra workers in early 1998 - the
highest-first quarter projection in the survey's 21-year
history_Older workers are being recruited for high-tech jobs, says
"Work Week."  The Labor Department has given the nonprofit group Green
Thumb a $250,000 grant to recruit low-income seniors to fill some of the
many high-tech jobs that now go begging 

The Teresa and H. John Heinz III Foundation finds that one in four
working women believes her workplace poses a health threat.  In a survey
of 1,000 women, the most prevalent concern involved exposure to
hazardous material (28 percent), followed by sudden injury (24 percent).
Eleven percent expressed concern about repetitive motion injuries (Wall
Street Journal,  "Work Week," page A1).

DUE OUT TOMORROW:
   State and Metropolitan Area Employment and Unemployment:  October
1997
   BLS Releases New 1996-2006 Employment Projections

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Re: immanent critique (was: dialectics)

1997-12-03 Thread Ricardo Duchesne

> Date sent:  Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:34:24 -0800
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> From:   James Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject:immanent critique (was: dialectics)

> Ricardo writes:

>... I would argue there is a difference between the early
> and late Marx on the question of liberal rights, and the difference is
> simply the late Marx is a lot more cynical about them (approximating Lenin).<
 
> Consequently, his immanent approach takes on a different character. As you
> yourself say: "Much of that critique [of capitalism] is `immanent', though
> Marx _also_ tries to understand and sketch the laws of motion of
> capitalism". "Laws of motion of capitalism" - that's the difference. Marx
> no longer confronts capitalism in terms of the universal ideals of justice,
> equality, and freedom, but sees capitalism as having certain "objective"
> tendencies toward crises, crises which arise of necessity from capitalism;
> and are grounded in economics. <

Devine responds:
 
> So Marx was so stupid and ignorant that he couldn't walk and chew gum at
> the same time? he couldn't simultaneously pose an "immanent critique" of
> capitalism (of how capitalism contracts its own official preachings of
> freedom, etc.) and try to figure out how the system works? 
> 
> I think we should avoid the silly assumption (that is, alas, very common in
> academia) that EITHER school X (here, the one that emphasizes Marx's
> immanent critique) is right OR school Y (here the one that emphasizes laws
> of motion) is right -- but NOT BOTH. 
> 
> My perspective is that Marx hoped that his theories would (1) successfully
> criticize the system, (2) help us explain its laws of motion, _and_ (3)
> give us some guide to political practice (a kind of activity he
> participated in quite a lot, to the dismay of liberals). Now it's difficult
> _in practice_ to get all three of these in sync, but we have to give Marx
> credit for trying. 


My point is the very simple one that the late Marx gives greater 
emphasis to the structural tendencies of capitalism than he does to 
the values and norms of that society. He seeks to show 
there are certain crises that emerge out of necessity from the "laws 
of motion" of capitalism, which explains why his analysis of those 
crises is based in economics, not ethics. 

 
> Ricardo continues: >How else do you explain the obsession pen-l has with
> crises? Is it not because they are still abiding by Marx's claim that the
> critique of capitalism must be a critique of political economy and the rest
> is ideology? <

Devine:
 
> I don't understand the second question, so focus on the first: pen-l is by
> no means a  Marxist list, having quite a variety of non-Marxist
> perspectives represented, while the Marxists on it often disagree with each
> other, so we can't blame Marx for the list's failings and foibles or give
> him credit for our successes. 
> 
> But Marx and pen-l have good reasons to be "obsessed" with crises (even
> though pen-l discusses a lot of other things, apparently not on Ricardo's
> list of his obsessions). Crises indicate one the failings of capitalism,
> one we can criticize it for. They also indicate pretty clearly the
> socialized nature of production, e.g., the interdependence of East Asia and
> the US. In some cases, they represent political openings. Note that all
> three of the parts of Marx's hoped-for synthesis (see above) play a role
> here. (BTW, Ricardo, didn't you cite Habermas? he talks about crisis theory.)


The problem with crisis-theory is that it cannot set the 
boundaries of capitalism beyond which it will no 
longer be able to function. Why couldn't capitalism function with 40% 
unemployment? 



 
> Ricardo seems to want Marx to stick to the example of his utopian teachers
> (Saint-Simon, Owen, Fourier), to preach "the universal ideals of justice,
> equality, and freedom" to the people, hoping that they'll meekly follow
> their "enlightened" leadership and install these ideals in practice. Marx
> lived at the end of a long period when a lot of people -- e.g., Robespierre
> -- yelled similar slogans but then turned around and violated their own
> slogans in practice. Thus, I can understand Marx's own reluctance to engage
> in sloganeering about "universal ideals." Instead of such universal ideals,
> Marx's ethical thought centered on the immanent critique, the contradiction
> between bougeois theory and practice (again, see Cornell West's book). 
> 
> Marx's attitude, if I understand it correctly, was that his "immanent
> critique" of capital corresponded to _real contradictions_ within its
> operations. He argued that the normal operations of capitalism -- partly
> via crises, but also via the concentration and centralization of capital
> and more -- would create its own grave-diggers, a proletariat that would
> develop the capacity to liberate itself from capitalism's shackles. He saw
> the potential for the 

Re: Fast Track Down, Not Out/Progressive Populist 12/97

1997-12-03 Thread J Cullen

>At 09:02 AM 12/3/97 -0600, William Lear wrote, responding to John Gulick:
>
>>Who is "you"?  Could you insert the person's name to whom you are
>>responding?  It makes following the thread a bit easier.
>
>Sorry. This is a shortcoming of my mail application.
>
Not all of the Reform Party positions are compatible with
progressive populism. But progressive populists ought to work with the
Reformers on common issues such as opening the ballot to alternative
parties, campaign finance reform, fair trade laws and encouraging small
farmers, small businesses and American manufacturing.
>>>
>>>Excuse me, but if the "progressive populist" movement has not enough
>>>moral imagination to oppose free trade agreements and the MAI because
>>>of the destitution these policies/laws/institutions wreak upon workers
>>>and peasants in "developing countries," and instead gets all up in arms
>>>embattled textile firms in the Piedmonts and gracious U.S. "sovereingty,"
>>>then I don't see much difference between "progressive populism" and
>>>Buchanan's crypto-fascism, or other crypto-fascisms in Europe.
>>
>>All this righteous anger might be better directed at someone who
>>actually does not oppose free trade agreements.  From the quote you
>>are responding to, "you" mentions "fair trade laws", exactly the
>>opposite (according to my reading of Tom Athanasiou's book) of "free"
>>trade.
>
>I deliberately intended to critique this proponent (i.e. the author
>of the article, who is the same person who issued the e-mail)
>of so-called fair trade, b/c it is my belief that they oppose so-called free
>trade for all the wrong (provincial and yes, protectionist) reasons.

Jim Cullen responds:

The tone of your criticism is one of the reasons that most American workers
would just as soon export liberals to Myanmar, rather than support their
causes. My editorial appeals to the self-interest of American workers
because they are the ones who can have an impact on United States trade
policy. If the United States adopts fair trade rules, which are designed to
improve labor and health policies internationally, that ought to help
workers in the Third World.

I suppose at a moral level perhaps it is unworthy of us to couch our
arguments in self-interest, but at a practical level I don't see anything
wrong with an American worker getting involved politically to protect his
or her livelihood.

To paraphrase the bumper sticker, Think Globally, Act Provincially!

>
>John Gulick
>Ph. D. Candidate
>Sociology Graduate Program
>University of California-Santa Cruz
>(415) 643-8568
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: contingency

1997-12-03 Thread Ellen Dannin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:

> Continuing a discussion from several months ago, the opening of a BLS news
> release published today. The full text is on the BLS web site at
> http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/conemp.toc.htm.
> 
> I welcome discussion as to what it all means.
> 
> Doug

Doug, several months ago I noticed the first business articles suggesting
some disenchantment with the contingent workforce. To now, most articles
in the business press has suggested that all aspects of the contingent
workforce are wholly positive. The critical pieces focused on two
problems: the problem of dishonesty and outright theft by contingent
workers because they have no commitment to the job and the inability of
contingent workers to do as good a job as regular employees and as
draining work resources because they need guidance as to how to perform
their jobs.


Ellen J. Dannin
California Western School of Law
225 Cedar Street
San Diego, CA  92101
Phone:  619-525-1449
Fax:619-696-






Former Soviet Premier Lends Pizza Hut His Image

1997-12-03 Thread john gulick


By ALESSANDRA STANLEY





MOSCOW -- The last leader of the Soviet Union was unable to prevent the
collapse of communism. So now he has conspicuously taken his place on the
winning side. 

Mikhail Gorbachev, 66, has shot a commercial endorsement for Pizza Hut. 

Gorbachev agreed to sit down at a table with his granddaughter in the Moscow
outlet of Pizza Hut and pay tribute to capitalism and its greasiest
offshoot: American fast food. 

Gorbachev said he was not exactly sure how much he was being paid, but some
reports indicate his fee is close to $1 million. 

Explaining that he badly needed the money to finance his foundation, a
research institute that bears his name, Gorbachev said in an interview
Tuesday that he had declined many other offers to endorse products but made
an exception for Pizza Hut. 

"I thought that it is a people's matter -- food," he said. "This is why if
my name works for the benefit of consumers, to hell with it -- I can risk it." 

The script is deferential; indeed, it could be viewed as Gorbachev's
ultimate fantasy. He arrives by limousine at a Pizza Hut and some patrons
notice him. An older man grumbles, "Because of him, we have economic
confusion." A younger man disagrees, saying, "Because of him we have
opportunity." 

Patrons continue to argue, until an older woman pipes up, "Because of him we
have things like Pizza Hut." The patrons rise and give a standing ovation to
their former leader, holding pizza slices aloft in tribute. 

Gorbachev responds with a dignified smile. He does not actually eat a slice
of pizza, but sips coffee as he watches his granddaughter dig in happily. 

Though the ad was shot in Moscow last Thursday, there are no plans to
broadcast it in Russia. Esteemed in the West as the statesman who ended the
Cold War, Gorbachev is extremely unpopular in Russia, where he is blamed for
allowing the Soviet Union to fall apart and for not having pushed reform of
the command economy far enough. When he ran for the presidency last year --
his first campaign for public office -- he won less than 1 percent of the vote. 

To put it another way, Gorbachev's endorsement of Pizza Hut could well cause
sales in Moscow to drop dramatically. 

"Here in Russia, it will be understood one way," Gorbachev said of the
advertisement, which has already been ridiculed in the Russian press. "In
other places, it is nothing unusual. I see my colleagues, former presidents,
and your presidents, too, taking part in campaigns." 

Actually, Gorbachev may be breaking new ground for statesmen. Margaret
Thatcher and Helmut Kohl have never made commercials. Even in America, where
celebrity endorsements are part of the cultural fabric, no former president
has taken quite so bold a step. 

In 1996, George Bush made an unpaid commercial for the Houston Astros, the
baseball team, as a favor to its owner, Drayton McLane. His vice president,
Dan Quayle, did a commercial in 1994 for Frito-Lay potato chips and was paid
$50,000. 

Gerald Ford serves on many corporate boards for substantial compensation,
but has not made product endorsements. Mostly, those kinds of ads have been
picked up by presidential or vice-presidential also-rans, from Bob Dole, who
endorsed Dunkin' Donuts, to Geraldine Ferraro, who made an advertisement in
1984 for Diet Pepsi. 

Since leaving the Kremlin, Gorbachev has marketed himself as a newspaper
columnist, memoirist and highly paid speaker and made a cameo appearance in
a Wim Wenders art film, improvising a soliloquy on Dostoyevsky. 

Gorbachev has already made an ad for Apple computers in Germany, but said
that by starring in the Pizza Hut commercial he was taking a step he had
previously considered "unsuitable" for someone of his standing. 

He complained that Russian President Boris Yeltsin had stripped him of much
of the office space he was allotted after he resigned from office on Dec.
25, 1991, and had deliberately thwarted his fund-raising efforts. 

"I don't get support from the state," he said. "If you look at the
foundations in Germany or France, the state finances them, they find
sponsors. Here, we don't have any of that. Sponsors can be found. There were
some, but on the next day after meeting with me they were summoned to the
presidential headquarters to fix their brains." 

Executives at Pizza Hut seemed dismayed that Gorbachev had spoken about his
coming cameo so soon, and would not disclose when the ad is expected to run
or provide a still from the video. 

But one company executive explained Pizza Hut's interest in attaching
Gorbachev's name to its pizza this way: "We are constantly striving to take
our advertising to a new edge. And we have a new commercial that the whole
world will want to watch." 

The commercial was created by the BBDO New York advertising agency, which is
known for using celebrities -- particularly politicians -- in splashy,
big-budget spots. Among the commercials from BBDO are a 1996 spot for Visa
with Dole and a 1995 Doritos commercial wi

Re: Fast Track Down, Not Out/Progressive Populist 12/97

1997-12-03 Thread john gulick



At 09:02 AM 12/3/97 -0600, William Lear wrote:

>Who is "you"?  Could you insert the person's name to whom you are
>responding?  It makes following the thread a bit easier.

Sorry. This is a shortcoming of my mail application.

>>>Not all of the Reform Party positions are compatible with
>>>progressive populism. But progressive populists ought to work with the
>>>Reformers on common issues such as opening the ballot to alternative
>>>parties, campaign finance reform, fair trade laws and encouraging small
>>>farmers, small businesses and American manufacturing.
>>
>>Excuse me, but if the "progressive populist" movement has not enough
>>moral imagination to oppose free trade agreements and the MAI because
>>of the destitution these policies/laws/institutions wreak upon workers
>>and peasants in "developing countries," and instead gets all up in arms
>>embattled textile firms in the Piedmonts and gracious U.S. "sovereingty,"
>>then I don't see much difference between "progressive populism" and
>>Buchanan's crypto-fascism, or other crypto-fascisms in Europe.
>
>All this righteous anger might be better directed at someone who
>actually does not oppose free trade agreements.  From the quote you
>are responding to, "you" mentions "fair trade laws", exactly the
>opposite (according to my reading of Tom Athanasiou's book) of "free"
>trade.

I deliberately intended to critique this proponent (i.e. the author
of the article, who is the same person who issued the e-mail) 
of so-called fair trade, b/c it is my belief that they oppose so-called free
trade for all the wrong (provincial and yes, protectionist) reasons.

John Gulick
Ph. D. Candidate
Sociology Graduate Program
University of California-Santa Cruz
(415) 643-8568
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






General strike in Israel! (fwd)

1997-12-03 Thread Sid Shniad

> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec  2 10:47:18 1997
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:28:53 +0200
> Sender: Forum on Labor in the Global Economy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: Eric Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  General strike in Israel!
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> According to reports this evening, tomorrow morning, 700,000 Israeli
> workers begin an unlimited-duration general strike in protest against the
> refusal of the Netanyahu government's Finance Minister to engage in serious
> negotiations to settle outstanding issues.
> 
> More details to follow tomorrow.
> 
> Eric Lee
> 






urgent action nicaragua (fwd)

1997-12-03 Thread Sid Shniad

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Task Force on Central America)
> Subject: urgent action nicaragua
> Content-Length: 5138
> 
> Dear Friends:
> 
> We have received some disturbing news from the organisation "Mujeres sin
> Fronteras" (Women without Borders), and the Comite de Solidaridad
> Internacional de Zaragoza (International Solidarity Committee of Zaragoza),
> about a fatal work-place accident in a free-trade zone maquila.  On
> Tuesday, November 18, Oscar Jose Rivas Artola, a 24 year-old worker at the
> Taiwanese Nien Hsing International maquila died after being electrocuted
> with 380 volts of electricity from a machine in disrepair.
> 
> For two days, he had been telling his supervisor that his machine had not
> been working properly. The last time he warned his supervisor, three hours
> before the accident, he was met with an obscenity and was forced to
> continue using the machine. His co-workers said that when the accident
> happened, Oscar Rivas cried out desperately while almost all the machines
> stopped working and the intensity of the factory lights diminished.  His
> co-workers could not take him out of the factory as fast as they wanted to,
> because the security guard on duty was nowhere to be found and the doors
> were locked; the workers had to break the locks to get out.  They managed
> to get him to the Carlos Marx hospital where he died a minute later.
> 
> Oscar Rivas left behind two children - a 3 year-old girl and a 4 year-old
> boy. His family is going to sue Nien Hsing with the help of legal aid from
> a workers' umbrella organisation, the Central Sandinista de Trabajadores
> (CST).
> 
> After the accident, Gilberto Wong, the general administrator of Nien Hsing
> would only say that the Ministry of Labour would give a press conference.
> On November 26, the Minister of Labour announced that the factory had been
> fined 10,000 cordobas ($1,500.00 Cdn.) and that the area of the factory
> where the electrocution took place would be closed while the area is
> inspected and the machinery is put in proper working order. This is clearly
> not enough; a band-aid solution at best, say the CST.
> 
> Background Information:
> 
> The Secretary General of the Textile Union Federation of the CST, Pedro
> Ortega Mendez, stated that there are 10 to 20 workplace accidents a day in
> the free-trade zone (Zona Franca). Additionally, Mao Shelim Ramos Rugama,
> and ex-worker from the Zone, stated that there are minors working there
> with the full knowledge of their employers. This irregularity has been
> documented by the USA T.V. program 'Hard Copy' (Nov. 11, 12, and 13); the
> program revealed, among other violations of the Labour Code, that 10 to 14
> year-old children are working in the Zona Franca, and that the majority of
> the workers have to take stimulants to meet their work quotas.
> 
> On November 17, the Nicaraguan Minister of Labour, Wilfredo Navarro,
> responding to the accusations from that TV program, said that the
> violations of the Labour Legal Code are nothing new, that they occur in the
> maquilas as they do in any other enterprise. He said:  "This is not
> Paradise; we are acting against the abuses, we have fined those who
> violated the [Labour] Code".   But when asked if he considers natural that
> a worker has to spend 12 hours standing, she or he is not allowed to sit,
> and not allowed to go to the bathroom more than once a day, he answered:
> "Well, when the worker came here, he knew what he was getting into, here
> there are rules like anywhere else and they have to be respected".
> 
> Three workers have been fired after they were interviewed for the program
> Hard Copy: Mao Shelim Ramos Rugama, Julieta Antonia Alonso Lopez, and Jose
> Efrain Miranda.
> 
> Sandinista members of the Legislative Assembly have issued a statement
> expressing their "profound uneasiness" with the situation in the free-trade
> zone, condemning the working conditions that led to the death of Oscar
> Rivas. They are calling on "all human rights organisations, churches and
> unions at the national and international level to continue monitoring,
> denouncing and condemning these violations, nationally and
> internationally".
> 
> Recommended Action:
> 
> Please write to the following people in Nicaragua:
> 
> * expressing your outrage at the death of Oscar Rivas, * demanding that a
> full investigation be made into violations of the Legal Labour Code in the
> Zona Franca and that workers' rights be respected, including the right to
> life,
> * demanding that Oscar Rivas' family be justly compensated for his death, *
> and that a more serious attempt be made by the Ministry of Labour to
> address these critical human and labour rights violations.
> 
> Please write to the Canadian Government:
> 
> * informing them of this disturbing incident, * asking that the Canadian
> government apply diplomatic pressure on the government of Nicaragua to
> ensure that basic human rights are respected in tha

Re: More! More!

1997-12-03 Thread Doug Henwood

Thomas Kruse wrote:

>>Mies van der Rohe is credited with having said "Less is more."
>
>To which one of the pomo upstarts (Micael Graves?) retroted "Less is more is
>a bore".

Actually I think it was Robert Venturi, who learned from Las Vegas ("Las
Vegas is almost all right"). Ironically, of course. Venturi is a font of
aphorisms - another that sticks in my mind from 22 years ago is "Our
buildings must learn to live with the cigarette machine." And then there
was the prominent but nonfunctioning antenna on the roof of an old folks
home he designed, intended as a symbol of the fact that geezers watch a lot
of TV.

Doug







Re: contingency

1997-12-03 Thread Jim Davis

>From the BLS release it looks like contingency means a worker thinks the
situation will end w/in a year. The release says the proportion of
"alternative work arrangement" workers (contractors, temps, on-call,
workers provided by contract agencies) in the tota workforce has remained
the same (about 10%), but they now seem to see this as a permanent state.

jd







Re: More! More!

1997-12-03 Thread Tom Walker

>>Mies van der Rohe is credited with having said "Less is more."
>
>To which one of the pomo upstarts (Micael Graves?) retroted "Less is more is
>a bore".

But who could possibly be more post modern than the architect who designed
the 1926 Rosa and Karl Liebknecht Monument and went on, in 1933, to submit a
neo-classical competition entry for the Reichsbank described by Kenneth
Frampton as displaying "an impassive monumentality, which aside from the
neutrality of its skin, intended nothing save the idealization of
bureaucratic authority." 

The 1923 quote I cited earlier sounds to me like an "affirmative" flip side
of Foucault.

BTW, the discussion of 'utopias' is incomplete without an appreciation (and
critique) of the emergence and dissemination of architectural utopias.

Regards, 

Tom Walker
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Re: Fast Track Down, Not Out/Progressive Populist 12/97

1997-12-03 Thread William S. Lear

On Tue, December 2, 1997 at 22:43:23 (+) john gulick writes:
>At 07:09 PM 12/2/97 -0600, you wrote:

Who is "you"?  Could you insert the person's name to whom you are
responding?  It makes following the thread a bit easier.

>>Not all of the Reform Party positions are compatible with
>>progressive populism. But progressive populists ought to work with the
>>Reformers on common issues such as opening the ballot to alternative
>>parties, campaign finance reform, fair trade laws and encouraging small
>>farmers, small businesses and American manufacturing.
>
>Excuse me, but if the "progressive populist" movement has not enough
>moral imagination to oppose free trade agreements and the MAI because
>of the destitution these policies/laws/institutions wreak upon workers
>and peasants in "developing countries," and instead gets all up in arms
>embattled textile firms in the Piedmonts and gracious U.S. "sovereingty,"
>then I don't see much difference between "progressive populism" and
>Buchanan's crypto-fascism, or other crypto-fascisms in Europe.

All this righteous anger might be better directed at someone who
actually does not oppose free trade agreements.  From the quote you
are responding to, "you" mentions "fair trade laws", exactly the
opposite (according to my reading of Tom Athanasiou's book) of "free"
trade.


Bill





Re: More! More!

1997-12-03 Thread Thomas Kruse

>Mies van der Rohe is credited with having said "Less is more."

To which one of the pomo upstarts (Micael Graves?) retroted "Less is more is
a bore".


Tom Kruse / Casilla 5869 / Cochabamba, Bolivia
Tel/Fax: (591-42) 48242
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Fast Track Down, Not Out/Progressive Populist 12/97

1997-12-03 Thread valis

Raged John Gulick:
> Excuse me, but if the "progressive populist" movement has not enough
> moral imagination to oppose free trade agreements and the MAI because
> of the destitution these policies/laws/institutions wreak upon workers
> and peasants in "developing countries," and instead gets all up in arms [re]
> embattled textile firms in the Piedmonts and gracious U.S. "sovereignty,"
> then I don't see much difference between "progressive populism" and
> Buchanan's crypto-fascism, or other crypto-fascisms in Europe.  []
 
Hear, hear!  This is why I repeat, in apparent futility, that the populisms
of left and right have to be joined together if they're not to be 
checkmated separately by the sort of fatcat scum who floated Buchanan. 
Buchanan's seemingly gratuitous racism is really the very core of his
presentation, and the message to the donut shop is "Let workers of 
decidely inferior races and cultures do the starving; only _our_ Lilliputian 
lives matter.  Why, in India they don't even have traffic lights!"

The recent "utopias" thread was interesting, but it did not approach
the required heresy of admitting that American workers will move
only for the most selfish and immediate of reasons.  Utopia?  Isn't that
the Cowboys' new backfield guy?
Dislocations and sufferings of biblical proportions await the American
working class unless it very soon drops the TV remote, that fraudulent
electronic scepter of power, and manages to locate itself within the
larger human and planetary stories.

Idaho march, anyone?  Yet?
  valis 







lingua franca on free trade

1997-12-03 Thread Thad Williamson

The Dec/Jan issue of lingua franca has an excellent, thorough article by my
friend Eyal Press discussing about a dozen different academic economists'
views on free trade. Very nice introduction to the landscape on this issue.
The c9nclusion has to be soft-pedaled in the extreme given the audience but
it's still a very worthwhile piece. Starts with Greider and Krugman and
moves to a host of other figures.

best,
Thad
Thad Williamson
National Center for Economic and Security Alternatives (Washington)/
Union Theological Seminary (New York)
212-531-1935
http://www.northcarolina.com/thad






More! More!

1997-12-03 Thread Tom Walker

Michael Eisenscher wrote,

>I spent part of the day looking for the entirety of that quote from Gompers,
>but did not find it. . . 

Mies van der Rohe is credited with having said "Less is more." Here's a
slightly expanded text:

"The office building is a house of work . . . of organization, of clarity,
of economy. Bright, wide workrooms, easy to oversee, undivided except as the
undertaking is divided. The maximum effect with the minimum expenditure of
means. The materials are concrete, iron, glass." 


Regards, 

Tom Walker
^^^
knoW Ware Communications
Vancouver, B.C., CANADA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(604) 688-8296 
^^^
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