Re: Labor Movement Growth & Decline

1998-04-02 Thread Michael Eisenscher

At 07:14 PM 4/2/98 EST, MScoleman wrote:
>Aside from the problems within unions once people are organized and the
>problems with organizing new members  (all this stated well in other messages)
>I think that the other primary thing missing is the overall political
>'movement' atmosphere needed to organize anything.  During the height of union
>organizing in the US following the Civil War and again pre and post WWII in
>the USA, there was a highly charged political atmosphere with MANY groups with
>variations of the same message -- working class solidarity and the need to
>organize.  The same type of atmosphere led to many of the successful
>organizing tactics in civil right, vietnam war and the women's movement of the
>60s/70s.  How does one begin to create such an atmosphere? 

The movements you refer to did not spring into life fully developed, but
rather were created out of an accumulation of struggles (many that ended in
defeat) over a protracted period of time.  In other words, this was an
extended process that finally reached critical mass.  We are obviously in a
very different period, but there is a process of rejuvenation under way
(albeit one that is still woefully inadequate to the challenge unions
confront).  Redirecting the labor movement is like turning the Queen Mary at
sea; it will only happen in a large arc, with many course corrections.  The
process requires change at the top, to be sure, but just as importantly, it
requires change at the bottom -- both through official channels, and in the
rebuilding of rank & file movements pushing for change.  There is evidence
out there, if one looks carefully at what is happening (and does not rely on
the mainstream media for information), that change is taking place.

>I can't help but
>think that some of these unions who are doing such a poor job would welcome
>leadership -- they realize they are dieing but don't know what to do about it.
>maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

In my experience, those who portray the existing leadership as incompetent,
inadequate, or otherwise seriously deficient, and then who offer themselves
as advisors to help lead these wayward unions out of the wilderness are
unlikely to find a very warm welcome for their ideas or assistance.  Good
ideas don't have much influence if they are delivered with the presumption
that the existing leadership doesn't know what it is doing.  Whatever the
value of the message, the credibility and attitude of the messenger will
determine whether the message ever gets a hearing.

In solidarity,
Michael







Yugoslavia and Market Socialism

1998-04-02 Thread PHILLPS

I think a couple of weeks ago Barkley posted something
about Yugoslavia and market socialism which prompted a
spirited response from somebody that Yugoslav socialism
was an 'oxymoron' because Yugoslavia was not democratic
and therefore could not be socialist.  Unfortunately, (as I
indicated previously) I lost all my previous e-mail so
if I am grossly misrepresenting some views posted to
pen-l then I apologize in advance.  However, I would
like to put my vote of confidence behind Barkley, rather
than his critics, who seem not to know much about went on
in Yugoslavia in the 1970s and 1980s.
  When Tito came to power at the end of WWII he and the
leadership of the JCP established a 'Stalinist' type
state which lasted justed a few years before Jugoslavia
broke with Stalin and began (after 1950) introducing
worker self-management and democratizing both the workplace
and decentralizing state powers to the republics and the
autonomous regions like Kosovo and Vojvodina.  Though there
was never 'two-party' elections (sic) like there are in the
US, there were multi-interest group elections at all levels
particularly after the implementation of the new
constitution in 1976.  There were in fact multi-'parties'
and the Communist Party was disbanded (to be replaced by
the 'non-party' League of Communists.)  Indeed, after the
breakup, these various groups reorganized as political
parties alternative to the growth of neo-liberal nationalist
parties favoured by the US (at the expense of so many lives.)
  Indeed, I would argue that Jugoslavia came closer to
establishing a truly democratic regime at both the industrial
and political level than any other regime in modern
European history.  It failed both because of internal
 contradictions and external interventions.  We have
argued this all in our book _The Rise and Fall of the
Third Way: Yugoslavia 1945-1991_  One may agree or disagree
with our analysis, but to argue that Jugoslavia was some
sort of anti-democratic, authoritarian offshoot of Stalinism
and was not (at least) attempting socialism is the kind
of bourgeois or crude-marxist crap that brings disrepute to
scholarship on the left.

Nasvidinje,

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba





Re: an example of participant-observer sociology

1998-04-02 Thread MScoleman

<< 
 At 11:32 AM 4/2/98 -0800, Jim Devine wrote:
 >Last night, I went to my neighborhood's "homeowner association" meeting,
 >which was a response to a recent gang slaying at the neighborhood park's
 >basketball court (luckily a very rare event). Despite the mixed ethnic and
 >religious character of the neighborhood, I saw a strong show of
 >middle-class solidarity. (No-one even hinted at the fact that the
 >gang-members involved were black, since more than half of the crowd was
 >black too.) On reason for the mood of middle-class solidarity is that the
 >apartment-dwellers in the neighborhood are excluded from the meeting. 
 >
 >We (my wife and I and others) are pushing to prevent the movement that
 >turns our neighboorhood into a "gate-guarded community" (the abomination
 >that disgraces the LA landscape). Luckily, no-one is talking about closing
 >the park or getting rid of basketball. Our homeowners' association seems
 >less reactionary than the reputation that most in LA have. That may be
 >because of the ethnic mix and the relatively good conditions we have in
 >Culver City compared to Los Angeles (the city and county that engulf us).
 
Wotjek Sokolowski wrote: 
> The ethnic mix seems the be a good explaining factor.  Although the urban
 >landscape of Baltimore is not very conducive to building gates, private
> security forces seem to be the trend in the white enclaves.  I live in what
 >has beeen designated as the empowerment zone, a racially mixed homeowner
> community amidst urban wasteland (although some gentrification efforts are
> under way) -- and nobody even mentions private security - the main concern
> is building a community garden.
 
 >A friend of mine at UCSC, orginally from the Orange County, wrote her
 >thesis on the white mobilization in her lilly-white home community.  She
 >chose that topic because she was apalleed by seeing that nothing can
 >mobilise white community better than the prospect of Blacks moving to the
 >neighborhood (in her case it was the white opposition to integrated
 >schools).  Little wonder why Wilson was elected Gauleiter, err.. Governor
 >of California.
 
Maggie Writes:

I live in a Manhattan neighborhood which used to be Irish working class and is
now all Hispanic working class on one side, and mixed Irish and other on the
'other' side (Broadway being the dividing line).  I live on the Hispanic side.
A few years ago a friend of mine (Irish) talked me into joining a neighborhood
watch thingy.  They had a car with a flashing light and it drove around the
neighborhood.  If we saw break ins or anything we reported it directly to the
police.  The first time I went on watch, we kept driving around the 'other'
side of Broadway.  After about an hour, I suggested we go to 'my' side of
Broadway -- in fact, I pointed directly to my block.  The guy who was driving
told me that even though they never said it publically, whites (including me
in his 'we') never went to that side of Broadway, it was too dangerous.  So I
said, gee, I have a headache, can you drop me off home?  They guy said sure, I
told him where I lived, he turned ten shades of red, dropped me off and that
was the end of my involvement in neighborhood watching.  You don't have to
live in white or middle class suburbs to suffer from the 'other' side
illnesses.

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 





Boddhi, read the comments by our (Chase) economist Lipsky.

1998-04-02 Thread boddhisatva



This has some interesting stuff in it so I forwarded it in
its entirity.  



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  April 2, 1998  NewsWatch

| Chase Stock Price|136 |+1 1/8 |
| Dow Jones Industrial |8868.32 |+68.51 |
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Six Gainers, Six Losers Among 12 Leading Bank Stocks; Dow, Bonds Up

Bank Stocks: Yesterday's trading saw six gainers, six losers among the
leading banks listed above, with most changes moderate.  Chase closed up 1
1/8, Citicorp up 1/2, J.P. Morgan down 1 1/16.

Dow Industrials: Closing up 68.51, the Dow posted its second straight gain,
joined yesterday by other major indexes, the NASDAQ Composite at a record
high close.

Bonds: Treasurys rallied late yesterday on short-covering, a strong dollar
and expectations for follow-through bond buying in overseas markets.  In
the day's only major economic report, the National Association of
Purchasing Management said its index of business activity surged to 54.8%
last month from 53.3% in February, whereas economists had expected the
figure to be unchanged to slightly lower.  In late trading, the benchmark
30-year Treasury bond was up 23/32, trimming yield five basis points to
5.88%.

Other Indexes: Tokyo's Nikkei 225 stock index closed down a steep 3 1/3%
today (Thursday), Hong Kong's Hang Seng down 1 1/4%.  Late this morning,
London's FT  100, retreating from somewhat bigger gains earlier, was up a
mere 6 points at 6023 after gaining 1.44% yesterday.

[Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Investor's Business Daily, CBS Radio,
others]


All items are from today's news media unless noted otherwise.

CHASE IN THE NEWS

Some 45% of automated teller machines (ATMs) impose surcharges, up from 33%
last year, according to a random survey of 200 ATMs statewide and nearly 70
in New York City, says the New York Public Interest Research Group.
Nationwide, says the U.S. Public Interest Research Group after surveying
470 banks and 46 credit unions, 71% of ATMs charge consumers who bank
elsewhere and often face a fee from their home institutions.  Newsday
reports Chase and Citibank spokesmen said neither charges non-account
holders ATM fees.  No state has approved legislation to ban ATM fees, but
Sen. Alfonse D'Amato (R-NY) vows Congressional legislation will be passed
this year to ban ATM surcharges. [Daily News, New York Post, Washington
Post, others]

Chase first-quarter earnings per share are expected to jump 14% from last
year to $2.26 -- the best showing among money center banks, according to
analysts as calculated by First Call Corp.  Chase, Bankers Trust and J.P.
Morgan are expected to take the heaviest blows from weak Asian results, but
Chase and BT "are expected to make up for the losses through revenue from
other businesses, particularly corporate finance and advisory," according
to  Ryan, Beck & Co. analyst Lawrence Cohn.  Analysts also predict "big
mortgage originators" Chase, Norwest and Fleet Financial will "show gains
based on low interest rates and mortgage refinancings." [American Banker]

Morgan Stanley Dean Witter has reportedly offered its custody business for
sale, and "people familiar with the situation" said Chase, Citicorp and
Bank of New York are among potential buyers of the business.  The companies
would not comment. [Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Financial Times]

Chase is preparing for the introduction of a single European currency with
a pan-European infrastructure.  Rather than maintaining separate computer
systems in each country, Chase is putting its EMU-based computer operations
on its mainframe in Bournemouth, England.  While each country's operations
will be partitioned, the central processing site will allow for seamless
cross-border payments and information flows.  Chase?s  Martin Lebouitz is
quoted. [April 1, First/Corporate EFT Report via NewsEdge]

The Vanguard Group, which manages $360 billion in stock, bond and
money-market mutual funds, has applied for permission to sell investments
to Europeans.  The funds would be marketed by a small sales force in
Brussels, Belgium, administered through an Irish subsidiary of Chase
Manhattan Corp., and managed by investment managers at Vanguard's Malvern
complex. [First/The Philadelphia Inquirer via Knight-Ridder/Tribune
Corporation]

Chase Manhattan International is bookrunner for Unibanco's two-year 150
billion Italian lire bond with a 7.50% coupon. [Financial Times]

U.S. commercial banks "are beginning to crack the market in Japan for
pension fund management."  Chase, Citicorp, Bankers Trust and J.P. Morgan
are noted as "among the original entrants to Japan's trust banking market."
Japan's pension fund assets are predicted to hit $3 trillion in 2005.
[American Banker]

An article in yesterday?s American B

Re: Labor Movement Growth & Decline

1998-04-02 Thread MScoleman

Aside from the problems within unions once people are organized and the
problems with organizing new members  (all this stated well in other messages)
I think that the other primary thing missing is the overall political
'movement' atmosphere needed to organize anything.  During the height of union
organizing in the US following the Civil War and again pre and post WWII in
the USA, there was a highly charged political atmosphere with MANY groups with
variations of the same message -- working class solidarity and the need to
organize.  The same type of atmosphere led to many of the successful
organizing tactics in civil right, vietnam war and the women's movement of the
60s/70s.  How does one begin to create such an atmosphere? I can't help but
think that some of these unions who are doing such a poor job would welcome
leadership -- they realize they are dieing but don't know what to do about it.
maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  





Re: an example of participant-observer sociology

1998-04-02 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 11:32 AM 4/2/98 -0800, Jim Devine wrote:
>Last night, I went to my neighborhood's "homeowner association" meeting,
>which was a response to a recent gang slaying at the neighborhood park's
>basketball court (luckily a very rare event). Despite the mixed ethnic and
>religious character of the neighborhood, I saw a strong show of
>middle-class solidarity. (No-one even hinted at the fact that the
>gang-members involved were black, since more than half of the crowd was
>black too.) On reason for the mood of middle-class solidarity is that the
>apartment-dwellers in the neighborhood are excluded from the meeting. 
>
>We (my wife and I and others) are pushing to prevent the movement that
>turns our neighboorhood into a "gate-guarded community" (the abomination
>that disgraces the LA landscape). Luckily, no-one is talking about closing
>the park or getting rid of basketball. Our homeowners' association seems
>less reactionary than the reputation that most in LA have. That may be
>because of the ethnic mix and the relatively good conditions we have in
>Culver City compared to Los Angeles (the city and county that engulf us).


The ethnic mix seems the be a good explaining factor.  Although the urban
landscape of Baltimore is not very conducive to building gates, private
security forces seem to be the trend in the white enclaves.  I live in what
has beeen designated as the empowerment zone, a racially mixed homeowner
community amidst urban wasteland (although some gentrification efforts are
under way) -- and nobody even mentions private security - the main concern
is building a community garden.

A friend of mine at UCSC, orginally from the Orange County, wrote her
thesis on the white mobilization in her lilly-white home community.  She
chose that topic because she was apalleed by seeing that nothing can
mobilise white community better than the prospect of Blacks moving to the
neighborhood (in her case it was the white opposition to integrated
schools).  Little wonder why Wilson was elected Gauleiter, err.. Governor
of California.

Regards,

WS






FWD: Only Jews Need Apply

1998-04-02 Thread Robert Naiman

>Reposted from Friends of Sabeel-North America mailing list. [Sabeel is a 
nonviolence/liberation theology group. -ed]
>
>>Dear friends:
>>
>>This op ed from Ha'aretz, an Israeli newspaper, should be reprinted in U.S.
>>newspapers.  Can you see if you can interest your own papers in printing it?
>>
>>It speaks cogently to the central dilemma Israel faces on its 50th
>>anniversary.
>>
>>Some background might be needed to understand the article.  Ayman and Adil
>>Qaadan are trying to buy land in a new housing development Katzir in
>>Galilee, inside Israel.  He is a health worker, and has been allowed to
>>care for Jews in a hospital.  But he has not been allowed to buy a house in
>>this new development because he is not a Jew.  The land for this
>>development is owned by the Jewish Agency, which will lease only to Jews.
>>The Qaadan family, like other Palestinians inside Israel, cannot find land
>>to build on because so much of it has been taken for Jewish-only
>>settlements.  Palestinians feel these "planning" moves are not neutral, but
>>intended to force them out of the country because they cannot find space
>>for houses.
>>
>>This story brings into sharp relief the lack of respect for other religions
>>in Israel today.  If, in our country, Jews, Buddhists and Muslims found
>>that much of the attractive housing was reserved for Christians only, there
>>would be a strong condemnation of this policy, in which Jewish groups might
>>be in the lead.  But in Israel, it is the Jewish religious groups which are
>>in the lead in denying non-Jews (Muslims and Christians) the right to buy
>>or rent a house wherever  they choose.
>>
>>What is especially surprising is that American tax dollars and U.S.
>>tax-exempt gifts are going into this country on a massive scale to fund
>>policies which would be illegal here, policies which lead to ethnic
>>cleansing, which we oppose elsewhere in the world, and which undermines the
>>so-called "peace process" which we are supposed to be sponsoring.
>>
>>> Only Jews need apply
>>>
>>> By Orit Shohat
>>> Ha'aretz, Friday, March 27, 1998
>>>
>>> A few weeks ago, the High Court of Justice
>>> refrained from ruling on the question which
>>> is the most important question for Israeli
>>> democracy: Can an Arab couple, Israeli
>>> citizens, buy a home in the settlement of
>>> Katzir in the Galilee, though it is intended
>>> only for Jews? Is it at all possible, in a
>>> democratic country, to earmark state lands
>>> for Jews only.The legal "maneuver" whereby
>>> Ayman and and Adil Qaadan were prevented
>>> from buying a home in Katzir was through the
>>> transfer of the land to the Jewish Agency.
>>> It is difficult to find any national, moral
>>> or security justification for this sort of
>>> maneuver, which was tailored for the days
>>> before the establishment of the state. After
>>> 50 years, "redeeming" state lands from the
>>> state itself to transfer them from the
>>> citizens of the state to world Jewry, only
>>> so as to prevent Israeli citizens of the
>>> state from living on them, not only looks
>>> absurd, but also has little redemption about
>>> it and a lot of racism.
>>>
>>> The lust to "Judaize" lands also leads to
>>> wasteful policies of distributing plots to
>>> individuals who set up huge private ranches
>>> on them only to insure that they will be
>>> solely in Jewish hands. Glatt kosher. In
>>> those places in the Negev where the Bedouin
>>> are blocked from grazing their flocks, the
>>> state allows Jewish shepherds to fence in
>>> tracts of thousands of dunams. In the
>>> Galilee, the same is true: Jews who grabbed
>>> lands that were not theirs to put up a
>>> house, or a tent, or a restaurant in the
>>> bosom of nature, are recognized
>>> retrospectively by National Infrastructure
>>> Minister Ariel Sharon and Agriculture
>>> Minister Rafael Eitan, who are interested in
>>> encouraging the dubious process of
>>> "Judaization." To date, approximately
>>> 100,000 dunams have been parcelled out in
>>> this way among 50 people, and at the Jewish
>>> Agency, anot

Re: common threads

1998-04-02 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 03:29 PM 4/2/98 -0400, Ricardo Duchesne wrote, replying to Michae Perelman:
>> The real question is more like, what the hell would I do if I wanted to
>> make a better world.  The common theme is that the answer is not easy.
>> Even so, I think that we are making a healthy stab at it.
>
>No, the real point is that the Lenin-Stalin takeover was a disastrous 
>failure, a huge tragedy for which there is no justifiable "balance 
>sheet". ricardo


That depends on how one views the REAL objective of the October Revolution.
 If that REAL objective was the establishment of a socialist society worthy
its name, then I fully concur with Ricardo - the x-USSR was a gigantic
failure.

If, on the other hand, that REAL objective was catching up with the
advanced capitalist powers of Western Europe and Japan, ideological
proclamations notwithstanding -- a view I tend to espouse -- then the
Stalinist policies should be viewed as a moderate (because of the
considerable human cost) success.   The  USSR was the power that could
withstand the defacto blockade by Western powers during the iner-war
period, defeat the Nazis, and effectively compete with American imperialism
during the post war period.  

In short, from the WWI defeat, Russia came out as a great imperial power.
That, of course, is not a reason for the Left to cherish Stalin and his
successors any more than, say, Otto von Bismarck.

So the question becomes not what Russia did to help the socialist cause
worldwide, but how the competition between major imperial powers affected
the socialist cause in different parts of the world, and what does the
ebbing of that competition mean for that cause.

BTW, concerning the comments of our Argentinian friend, I do not think that
the US support for fascist dictatorships in South America and elsewhere had
much to do with the existence of the USSR.  I think that support would have
existed with or without the existence of the x-USSR for a very simple
reason - the goal of US foreign policy was to back up Washington-friendly
forces (aka "our thugs") in that region that happen to be the agrarian
elites in cahoots with the urban bourgeoisie -- an unholy alliance that
generates fascist dictatorship (cf. Moore, _Social Origins..._ Rueschemeyer
et al., _Capitalist development and democracy_).

The only effect x-USSR might have had was her support for the forces that
might undermine the Washington-friendly thugs - hence her superficial
support for national liberation movements in many developing countries*),
and the absence of that support for such movements in Argentina and other
South American countries.  I cannot speculate about the reasons for that
lack of support, but it might have something to do with the American defeat
in Korea and Vietnam.  The Russians might have wanted to avoid the same
mistake.

-
*) The character of that support becomes apparent when we consider the
position Khruschev took during the Cuban Missile Crisis.  The withrdawal of
the strategic missiles was the subject of the agreement, but the tactical
missiles (of which Americans knew little at that time, foolishly planning
an invasin of the island which would have turned into a major military
disaster) could have stayed.  However Khruschev made the decision to
withdraw them as soon as he learned that Castro intended to use them as a
bargaining chip to strengthen his position vis a vis the US.  


regards,







Wojtek Sokolowski 
Institute for Policy Studies
Johns Hopkins University
Baltimore, MD 21218
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice: (410) 516-4056
fax:   (410) 516-8233

Opinions expressed above are those of this writer only.  They do not
represent the views or policies of the Institute for Policy Studies, the
Johns Hopkins University, or anyone else affiliated with these institutions.








Re: common threads

1998-04-02 Thread Ricardo Duchesne

> Date sent:  Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:55:34 -0800
> Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From:   Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:common threads

> For the most part the discussions concerning the Soviet balance sheet
> and Peru seem to be coming up against a very difficult subject.  Nobody
> to my knowledge has been able to make much progress in society without
> coming up against powerful, and often violent resistance.  Whether it is
> the early Teamsters organizing in the U.S., peasants in Peru, or even a
> state such as the early S.U. or Nicaragua or Cuba struggling to survive,
> all are met with violence.
> 
> Matters become even more complicated when strange alliances emerge.  In
> the face of this confusion, progressive parties make mistakes.  I can
> sit in my office connected to the Internet and pontificate: X is bad.  I
> am above all that. yadda yadda yadda.
> 
> The real question is more like, what the hell would I do if I wanted to
> make a better world.  The common theme is that the answer is not easy.
> Even so, I think that we are making a healthy stab at it.

No, the real point is that the Lenin-Stalin takeover was a disastrous 
failure, a huge tragedy for which there is no justifiable "balance 
sheet". ricardo


 
> Congratulations to all involved.  I wish that more of you were
> participating -- especially those of you located outside of the North
> American continent.
> 
> --
> Michael Perelman
> Economics Department
> California State University
> Chico, CA 95929
> 
> Tel. 916-898-5321
> E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 





re:state-war

1998-04-02 Thread Ricardo Duchesne

> Date sent:  Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:16:51 -0800
> Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From:   James Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:re:state-war

> This seems even shorter, though there's more heat than light.
> 
> I had written: >>I think one thing to do is start treating "rationalism"
> more as a dependent variable and not some extra-historical force [an
> independent variable]. ...<<
> 
> Ricardo D writes:  >Why is the choice for rationalism between "dependent
> variable" and "extra-historical force", whereas the assumed-independent
> variable  here cannot be accused of being an extra-historical force? And,
> if rationalism is "dependent", how does the assumed-independent variable
> exist without any form of human reason?<
> 
> You'll note that I didn't put the issue in the either/or way that you
> assume, but instead used the phrase "more as a," which speaks of _degrees_
> of exogeneity or endogeneity. 

Stop playing games. Throughout this exchange you have been saying 
things yet pretending you are saying something else as well. As is 
evident further below, you DO MEAN to say that rationalism is the 
dependent variable, even if you aknowledge that 
rationalism may have an effect as well on the independent variable. 
No one today would hold the "dependent variable" in an absolute state 
of dependency, theorefore I take your qualification for granted. The 
point is you assign primacy to non-rational factors.

 
> But put the issue in another way: the "human reason" that exists in an
> extra-historical way is so abstract that it can show up in lots of
> different forms, from feudal rationality to capitalist rationality, to
> bureaucratic rationality, to socialist rationality, depending on the
> specifics of the social organization in which it exists. Talking about
> "human reason" _per se_ isn't very helpful in understanding the world. It's
> like talking about the Holy Ghost, which is everywhere and nowhere -- by
> definition.


First, rationalities do not come a dime-a-dozen. Second, drop the 
assumption that only if you do not connect idea x to the "specifics of 
the social organization", then  you are dwelling in "abstrations". 
Anything - ideal or material - seen in isolation is an abstration. 
The word "abstraction" by itself is an abstraction, and so is the 
word "concrete". The phrase "specific social organization" is a 
monumental abstraction. Jim Devine by himself is also an 
abstraction. A starving person is itself an abstraction.   

> RD had written: >>>The inescapable fact for marxists is that without Lenin
> no October  Revolution.<<<
 
> But we don't know what would have happened if Lenin had been having dinner
> in September 1917, had choked on a beet, and his dinner companion, Stalin,
> hadn't known the Heimlich maneuver (or didn't want to use it), so that the
> Bolsheviks were suddenly rendered leaderless.[*] The fact is that there
> were other leaders amongst the Bolsheviks who could have eventually
> replaced Lenin (I don't count Trotsky among them, since he was treated as
> an outsider by the bolshies). Russia was in severe crisis on several
> different levels (exemplified by mutinous soldiers and sailors, rebellious
> peasants, and workers' soviets), with Karensky's government having an
> extremely hard time trying to paper over the contradictions with
> legislative fiat. (Maybe Karensky might have been pushed in a more
> socialist direction which could have encouraged peasant land-hunger and
> worker soviets even more.) Perhaps eventually some mediocrity like Zinoviev
> would have been pushed to change his attitudes to lead a revolution; maybe
> he would have done a better job, having been forced to think for himself by
> the absence of his leader. Perhaps the rev. would have happened in November
> rather that October (old style). Maybe the Left Social Revolutionaries,
> instead of the bolshies, would have engineered a revolution. But this kind
> of counterfactual speculation is pointless after awhile. 


See what I mean: all your counterfactuals leave you with a "mediocrity 
like Zinoviev", or the disorganized social revolutionaries - so we 
are back with Lenin: no Lenin, no revolution. 
 
> The point is that the broad social forces that produced the Russian
> Revolution did not produce the exact kind of revolution that actually
> occurred (the October rev.) Rather, they produced only _opportunities_.
> Given the balance of forces, the kind of political  organization he led,
> and the kinds of allies he had, a "great individual" like Lenin can
> engineer a revolution. There is nothing to say that other "great
> individuals" can't replace the ones we emphasize with the benefit of
> hindsight (even when we talk about competition among leaders, it's the
> victors who get the emphasis in the history books). But he (or she) cannot
> escape the broad social forces. Once the October revolution had occurred,
> another social

Re: Russia

1998-04-02 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 01:01 PM 4/2/98 -0500, Barkley Rosser wrote:
>Doug,
>A very useful and highly respected source that you 
>could easily contact personally on income data in Russia is 
>Igor Birman who lives in Brooklyn, I believe.  He has been 
>one of the most respected experts on income levels and 
>distribution in the FSU and now Russia for several decades.
>In the last issue of the Russian (and Russian language) 
>magazine _Ogonyok_, he argued that real income levels are 
>not much below what they were a decade ago, based on 
>consumption data.  The unhappiness arises from: 1)  
>increased inequality of income, although he does not see as 
>much increase in inequality as does the Luxemburg Income 
>Study that claims that it is now more unequal than in the 
>US, and 2) the increased choices available that many cannot 
>afford that increase dissatisfaction levels.


That makes a lot of sense.  The vast body of research on relative
deprivation suggests that it is not the absolute income level that matters
by the income level relative to a reference group.  Thus group A who are
better off than group B in absolute terms may feel more deprived than B
simply because their reference group is much better off than themselves
(which may not be the case for A).

Regards,


Wojtek Sokolowski 
Institute for Policy Studies
Johns Hopkins University
Baltimore, MD 21218
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice: (410) 516-4056
fax:   (410) 516-8233

Opinions expressed above are those of this writer only.  They do not
represent the views or policies of the Institute for Policy Studies, the
Johns Hopkins University, or anyone else affiliated with these institutions.








re: rationality

1998-04-02 Thread James Devine

I had written: >> You'll note that I didn't put the issue in the either/or
way that you assume, but instead used the phrase "more as a," which speaks
of _degrees_ of exogeneity or endogeneity [of rationality]. <<

Ricardo responds: >Stop playing games. Throughout this exchange you have
been saying things yet pretending you are saying something else as well. <

This is not true: instead, you act as if you know my opinions better than I
do, knowing what better than I do what I "pretend" as opposed to actually
believe in. This has had the positive effect of encouraging me to clarify
exactly what I meant (which gives _me_ jollies, but may be very boring to
pen-l). But the arrogant assumption seems to persist (as exemplified by the
above), making this discussion very tedious and irritating. 

RD: >As is evident further below, you DO MEAN to say that rationalism is
the dependent variable, even if you aknowledge that rationalism may have an
effect as well on the independent variable. No one today would hold the
"dependent variable" in an absolute state of dependency, theorefore I take
your qualification for granted. The point is you assign primacy to
non-rational factors.<

I don't know what you mean by the "non-rational" factors that you _assume_
I assign "primacy" to. On what I "DO MEAN" to say, I'll simply repeat that
there are _degrees_ of exogeneity and endogeneity (though that's a pretty
inadequate summary). Below, I'll address the question further at the end of
this missive -- at the asterisks. 
 
What I had said was: >> But put the issue in another way: the "human
reason" that exists in an extra-historical way is so abstract that it can
show up in lots of different forms, from feudal rationality to capitalist
rationality, to bureaucratic rationality, to socialist rationality,
depending on the specifics of the social organization in which it exists.
Talking about "human reason" _per se_ isn't very helpful in understanding
the world. It's like talking about the Holy Ghost, which is everywhere and
nowhere -- by definition.<<

RD:>First, rationalities do not come a dime-a-dozen.<

I didn't assert otherwise. You'll notice that I listed less than ten, about
five. 

RD:>Second, drop the assumption that only if you do not connect idea x to
the "specifics of the social organization", then you are dwelling in
"abstrations".<

How do you know my "assumption"? How do you know that my view that 'talking
about human reason _per se_ isn't very helpful' isn't a _conclusion_ rather
than an assumption? Can you read my mind? I don't pretend to read yours.

RD:>Anything - ideal or material - seen in isolation is an abstration. The
word "abstraction" by itself is an abstraction, and so is the word
"concrete". The phrase "specific social organization" is a monumental
abstraction. ... A starving person is itself an abstraction.<

Did I say that abstractions were _bad_ and to be avoided at all cost? No.
In fact, my natural tendency is to revel in abstractions; but I've learned
better over the years, to avoid the academic abstraction addiction as awful. 

Rather, the problem with abstractions are _inadequate_. They can _help_ us
understand the reality of specific situations, but we also need to know the
specifics, the empirical data which we're trying to stuff into the
abstractions. 

(This attitude would help the World Bank/IMF avoid their "one size fits
all" approach of forcing all countries into the same Walrasian mold --
though I doubt any kind of attitude change will occur without massive
popular rebellion; the Bretton Woods Institutions' arrogance arises from
their power.)

In the ellipsis, RD writes: >Jim Devine by himself is also an abstraction.<

Gosh, Ricardo, I _wish_ I were an abstraction, or at least more abstract.
That way, I'd weigh less. (Louis, give me a rim-shot.)

 But seriously folks: Since I don't know what Ricardo means by
"non-rational factors" above, let's clarify a bit more. Ricardo never
defined what he meant by "rationality," so let's define it following the
dominant perspective in economics (a field obsessesed with rationality),
i.e., the consistent pursuit of given goals. This definition is pretty
tautological, as sophisticated mainstream economists such as Amartya Sen
acknowledge. The rational feudal vassal values valor and so acts to
maximize valor subject to constraints; all but the insane (who have
conflicting motives) are rational in this sense. If we drop the
"consistently," it is totally tautological, since any behavior can be seen
as "rational," given a preference for variety or conflicting motives. As a
(near-)tautology, this kind of rationality is everywhere and nowhere. (My
phrase about the "Holy Ghost" modifies a line from George Dalton's summary
of Karl Polanyi's ideas in PRIMITIVE, ARCHAIC, AND MODERN ECONOMIES.)

Under this definition, "non-rational factors" would involve the
_determination_ of exactly what goals the agent consistently pursues. It
would determine the _content_ of t

Russia

1998-04-02 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

Oh yes, one more point.  According to the latest polls 
taken in Russia, an overwhelming plurality of people state 
that living conditions were best during the Brezhnev era.
Barkley Rosser

-- 
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: Russia

1998-04-02 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

Doug,
 Going backwards through my mail and only now got to 
this.  An implication of my earlier point from Igor Birman 
(also supported by Luxemburg Income Study, etc.) that 
income distribution is much more unequal now in Russia, is 
that even if average real consumption levels have not 
fallen in the past decade, real consumption levels have 
certainly declined for a whole lot of people, especially 
the rural elderly.
Barkley Rosser
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:12:10 -0500 Doug Henwood 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote:
> 
> > One piece of evidence is that consumption stats on
> >such things as electricity have not fallen nearly as much
> >as official income stats.  One point, a lot more of the
> >economy is now underground unreported income for a variety
> >of reasons.  Things are a lot worse than they were in the
> >countryside, but there has been a definite turnaround in
> >many urban areas, especially Moscow.
> 
> This doesn't answer the question of whether most Russians would regard
> themselves as better off now than in 1990. For those who remember, I'd love
> to see a comparison with 1980.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: Russia

1998-04-02 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

Doug,
 I repeat, the upswing is most clear in urban areas, 
especially in Moscow where a lot of foreign analysts hang 
out.  The countryside is not in an upswing, although it may 
not have fallen down as far as many think, as another post 
I have just sent indicates.
 As regards life expectancy for males in USSR/Russia, I 
note that according to Murray Feschbach, it began declining 
as early as the mid-1960s, hardly a paean to the glories of 
life under Brezhnev despite the current nostalgia for his 
era, although there was certainly an acceleration of that 
decline after 1991.  But most think that this reflects the 
accumulated effects of gradually rising alcoholism, again, 
not a big plus for the previous system.  There is evidence 
that the decline in male life expectancy has stopped and 
may have even turned around a bit.
Barkley Rosser
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:53:01 -0500 Doug Henwood 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark Jones wrote:
> 
> >I presume the official concerned did not attempt to consult the 3 million men
> >aged between 23-45 who according to official Russians stats (cited on JRL)
> >died *in excess of * the demographic trendline since 1991. This calamity, the
> >worst ever in Russian peace time history,combined with falling fertility and
> >birth rates,  has resulted in the Russian census department producing a new
> >population estimate of 90 million (down from the present 147m) by 2050.
> >Russian male life expectancy is now lower than most African countries, at 56.5
> >years, down a full decade from Soviet times.
> >
> >Who was this Goebbels you were talking with?
> 
> Well, I can't say really. She did concede the rise in the death rate and
> the shrinkage of the population, but swears these bottomed out in 1996.
> Like Barkley, she perceives an upswing.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Russia

1998-04-02 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

Doug,
A very useful and highly respected source that you 
could easily contact personally on income data in Russia is 
Igor Birman who lives in Brooklyn, I believe.  He has been 
one of the most respected experts on income levels and 
distribution in the FSU and now Russia for several decades.
In the last issue of the Russian (and Russian language) 
magazine _Ogonyok_, he argued that real income levels are 
not much below what they were a decade ago, based on 
consumption data.  The unhappiness arises from: 1)  
increased inequality of income, although he does not see as 
much increase in inequality as does the Luxemburg Income 
Study that claims that it is now more unequal than in the 
US, and 2) the increased choices available that many cannot 
afford that increase dissatisfaction levels.
Barkley Rosser

-- 
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: Soviet balance sheet

1998-04-02 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

 I am going to support the argument that one needs to 
judge the system, not particular individuals, however much 
they may have contributed to the nature and outcomes of 
that system.
 Thus, more careful studies by Getty and Manning 
conclude that Stalin PERSONALLY ordered the deaths of 
somewhat less than a million people, although still way in 
excess of 100,000, no trivial rate of butchery.  But the 
Stalinist system certainly killed millions and imprisoned 
millions more.
 Likewise, the glory of defeating Hitler is not 
especially to Stalin's personal credit, but to the people 
and to some extent the system of the USSR.  As has been 
pointed out, many of Stalin's personal acts and decisions 
may well have aided Hitler's cause, objectively, more than 
they hurt it.
Barkley Rosser
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:45:34 -0400 Ricardo Duchesne 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Date sent:  Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:44:43 -0500
> > Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > From:   Wojtek Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:Re: Soviet balance sheet
> >
>  
>   WS:
> > Au contraire, I insist on using the same and comparable standards.  If we
> > were to judge leaders' crimes, say, per years in office and per population
> > size affected by the leader's power (including the client states) - most US
> > presidents would look quite unfavourably.  Stalin crimes are better
> > publicized than those of other leaders, but that has to do with the fact
> > that many of his victims were white middle class professionals instead of
> > nameless masses in India or Africa.
> 
> 
> You are just accepting stalinist propaganda that only a small class 
> of "kulaks" was killed. Truth is Stalin was personally involved in 
> the deaths of millions of ordinary people. He had no qualms murdering 
> even those who were closest to him, either party-
> friends or family. His oldest son was bullied by him throughout his 
> childhood and when captured by the Nazis Stalin would not move a 
> finger to free him, but said something to the effect "let him die".
> Just read Medvedev's Let History Judge. 
>   
> > In short, I am not denying Stalin was a pig, but so were other empire
> > builders.  So instead of singleing him out, that plays right into the hands
> > of anti-communist propaganda, let us just say "Every empire builder is
> > likely to commit atrocities in his/her gamble for power, regardless of the
> > ideology used to legitimate the empire or the leader's position in it."
> 
> 
> Churchill and the other western leaders at the time looked saintly 
> beside Stalin. ricardo
> 
> 
> 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wojtek Sokolowski 
> > Institute for Policy Studies
> > Johns Hopkins University
> > Baltimore, MD 21218
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > voice: (410) 516-4056
> > fax:   (410) 516-8233
> > 
> > Opinions expressed above are those of this writer only.  They do not
> > represent the views or policies of the Institute for Policy Studies, the
> > Johns Hopkins University, or anyone else affiliated with these institutions.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 

-- 
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Semi-feudalism in Brazil

1998-04-02 Thread Louis Proyect

April 2, 1998

In Brazil Tobacco Country, Conglomerates Rule

By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO

SANTA CRUZ DO SUL, Brazil -- When Blasio and Claire Lehman were married
here 22 years ago, farmers could build a future on tobacco. Four years
after their wedding, they bought a piece of land. A few harvests later,
they were able to build a simple wooden house. 

In those days, tobacco companies bought their leaves on the free market,
and price was related to supply and demand. 

But in an age of global competition, most of those smaller tobacco
companies have been swallowed by conglomerates. The remaining ones decide
prces among themselves, and punish growers heavily should they decide to
sell elsewhere. 

For the 160,000 tobacco growers of Brazil, the leading exporter of tobacco,
that has meant disaster. Local officials estimate that 35 percent of the
tobacco growers here will end this harvest owing more money than they earned. 

The Lehmans' son Ismail, who dreams of going to a university, has offered
to quit high school -- only temporarily, he says -- to save the family $35
a month in bus fare. 

"All we're doing is falling," Mrs. Lehman said, "deeper and deeper each
year." 

The tobacco companies call their approach an "integrated system of
production." The small farmers call it a new feudalism, and say they would
quit growing tobacco if they could switch to another crop. 

"We think about it every day," said Mr. Lehman. 

"But everything we think of needs a lot of money to start up," his wife
added. 

Helio Friedrich, a city councilman in nearby Venâncio Aires from the
left-of-center Worker's Party, said: "We have a system in which a half
dozen companies are strangling the growers. Each year they come up with a
new way to squeeze the growers tighter." 

The tobacco companies have legal advantages and tax incentives to help them
compete in the world economy. In Rio Grande do Sul, the heart of tobacco
country, state tax incentives to Souza Cruz, the biggest company, amounted
to $770 million, while Philip Morris received $195 million. 

The tax break is supposed to create jobs. But at the modern Souza Cruz
proessing plant, the permanent work force has dropped to 180, from 1,000,
through a combination of technology and streamlining, said Guido Knies, a
senior manager. 

In calculating what they pay growers, the big companies join together to
estimate the growers' cost of production plus a modest margin. To help
enforce their control, the companies hold back a share of the farmer's
payment until the entire harvest is delivered. 

The companies say that the growers like the arrangement and that they are
merely suffering a difficult year in which the harvest has declined 35
percent because of heavy rainfall. 

"There is no bad faith on our part," said José Luiz Gaiad de Camargo,
manager of corporate communications, science and regulation at Souza Cruz.
"What we have is a bad year." 

Souza Cruz, which controls 84 percent of the Brazilian cigarette market,
increased profits 40 percent last year, to $275 million. Company brochures
cite success in keeping down costs as the reason for the growing profits.
Its stock price has risen 38 percent in two years. 

At the same time, despite substantial inflation and cost increases for the
growers, the price they get their tobacco has remained stagnant. 

Four companies dominate the tobacco market in Brazil -- Dimon, CTA and
Universal Leaf, in addition to Souza Cruz. Though they are competitors in
the world market, they all operate by the same rules in their dealings with
the farmers. 

The squeeze on the growers begins at the start of the season, when they
must take bank loans to buy kits from the companies that include seeds,
pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers, a plastic sheet to cover the soil
and protective gear for applying the chemicals. The growers say they do not
have the technology to extract seeds in the quantity they need. 

The growers must not only pay for the kits; they must also pledge to sell
their harvest to the companies. 

The companies also hold back 15 cents for each kilo of tobacco the farmer
delivers as insurance that the grower will deliver the rest of the promised
harvest. The companies contend that they do this so their technical
assistance will not be wasted, but the practice also leaves growers little
recourse in disputes over acompany's valuation of their crop. 

The companies tightened the pricing noose after farmers' strikes for higher
prices in the late 1980's. When supply fell in 1991, the growers and the
companies negotiated a 50 percent increase in payments. 

But shortly after that the companies banded together, with all offering the
same terms to the growers. That ended any opportunity for the growers to
negotiate prices. 

Nelson Proença is the secretary for development of international investment
for Rio Grande do Sul. His office has granted nearly $1 billion in tax
breaks to the tobacco companies, but he said the local government had no
say in

Re: Request for information

1998-04-02 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 08:10 AM 4/2/98 +, you wrote:
>I agree with everything you've said in terms of the basic concepts 
>expressed. But perhaps re-read that message from that journalist 
>again. How about summarily concluding that the notion of sexual 
>predators on the internet is exaggerated on the basis of nothing more 
>than one's limited experience with one's own children? 


Jim:  I know that person from more than the few lines I extracted from her
personal email to me, and can reasonably tell that she generally takes a
common sense approach rather than "following the party line".  I agree,
though, that had that been an official request from, say, a media agency,
your point about pre-conceived conclusions would hold.

Regards,

WS
>





Re: Soviet balance sheet

1998-04-02 Thread Ricardo Duchesne

> Date sent:  Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:44:43 -0500
> Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From:   Wojtek Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:Re: Soviet balance sheet
>
 
  WS:
> Au contraire, I insist on using the same and comparable standards.  If we
> were to judge leaders' crimes, say, per years in office and per population
> size affected by the leader's power (including the client states) - most US
> presidents would look quite unfavourably.  Stalin crimes are better
> publicized than those of other leaders, but that has to do with the fact
> that many of his victims were white middle class professionals instead of
> nameless masses in India or Africa.


You are just accepting stalinist propaganda that only a small class 
of "kulaks" was killed. Truth is Stalin was personally involved in 
the deaths of millions of ordinary people. He had no qualms murdering 
even those who were closest to him, either party-
friends or family. His oldest son was bullied by him throughout his 
childhood and when captured by the Nazis Stalin would not move a 
finger to free him, but said something to the effect "let him die".
Just read Medvedev's Let History Judge. 
  
> In short, I am not denying Stalin was a pig, but so were other empire
> builders.  So instead of singleing him out, that plays right into the hands
> of anti-communist propaganda, let us just say "Every empire builder is
> likely to commit atrocities in his/her gamble for power, regardless of the
> ideology used to legitimate the empire or the leader's position in it."


Churchill and the other western leaders at the time looked saintly 
beside Stalin. ricardo



> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wojtek Sokolowski 
> Institute for Policy Studies
> Johns Hopkins University
> Baltimore, MD 21218
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> voice: (410) 516-4056
> fax:   (410) 516-8233
> 
> Opinions expressed above are those of this writer only.  They do not
> represent the views or policies of the Institute for Policy Studies, the
> Johns Hopkins University, or anyone else affiliated with these institutions.
> 
> 
> 
> 





an example of participant-observer sociology

1998-04-02 Thread James Devine

Last night, I went to my neighborhood's "homeowner association" meeting,
which was a response to a recent gang slaying at the neighborhood park's
basketball court (luckily a very rare event). Despite the mixed ethnic and
religious character of the neighborhood, I saw a strong show of
middle-class solidarity. (No-one even hinted at the fact that the
gang-members involved were black, since more than half of the crowd was
black too.) On reason for the mood of middle-class solidarity is that the
apartment-dwellers in the neighborhood are excluded from the meeting. 

We (my wife and I and others) are pushing to prevent the movement that
turns our neighboorhood into a "gate-guarded community" (the abomination
that disgraces the LA landscape). Luckily, no-one is talking about closing
the park or getting rid of basketball. Our homeowners' association seems
less reactionary than the reputation that most in LA have. That may be
because of the ethnic mix and the relatively good conditions we have in
Culver City compared to Los Angeles (the city and county that engulf us).

in the "heart of screenland," home of the Sony studios, 

Jim Devine[EMAIL PROTECTED] &
http://clawww.lmu.edu/1997F/ECON/jdevine.html
Los Angeles, the city of your future: the city of smog, earthquakes, modern
slavery, fires, mudslides & sinkholes, civil disturbances (a.k.a. riots or
rebellions), OJ, the Menendi, and Heidi Fleiss (daughter of our nephew's
pediatrician). 





Re: Soviet balance sheet

1998-04-02 Thread Alan Cibils

On Fri, March 27, 1998 at 16:35:26 (-0800) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I would like to get some feedback about the net impact of the Soviets on
>World History.
>
>Here are some variables that I would consider:
>
>The threat of the Soviet Union caused the U.S. and other capitalist
>countries to soften the harsh face of capitalism -- more acceptance of
>unions, some help to some progressive forces above, but also intensified
>support to the Marcoses, Mobutus, etc.

While this is undoubtedly true for some countries, it is not as true
for others. The case of Argentina (where I am from and with which I have
some familiarity) falls in the second group of countries. The U.S. supported
the most brutal dictatorship of recent history which came to power in
1976. The objectives of the dictatorship were clear: to wipe out left of
center labour and student activism and to move the country's economy towards
a "market friendly" (i.e. neoliberal) structure.

Furthermore, the Argentine Communist Party gave the dictatorship "critical
support" which was apparently the result of an agreement between the SU and
the repressors: don't disappear our activists and we won't condemn you
too much. Also, Argentina greatly benefited from increased trade with the
SU during the military dictatorship. (The Argentine CP later, in 1986 I
believe, repented from its past errors. However, by then as many as 30,000
people had been disappeared including many of its own activists.)

While the departure of the military from power in 1983 resulted in somewhat
less orthodox economic policies, high inflation and general macro instability
resulted in a return to hyper-neoliberalism with the current Menem
administration (1989-present).

I guess my points are:

1) The existence of the SU did not result a softer hand towards labour or
the left in Argentina (or other Southern Cone countries for that matter),
on the contrary, they were treated with the utmost brutality and impunity.

2) The existence of the SU did not stop the implementation of the most
savage form of neoliberalism in Argentina (or Chile, for example).

Of course, one could argue the SU was already in decline and the US
knew this and acted accordingly. However, the very cozy relationship of
the SU with the Argentine military is a fact that cannot be that easily
written off.

In solidarity,

Alan





Re: Request for information

1998-04-02 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 03:05 PM 4/1/98 +, Jim Craven wrote:
>This is priceless. Who is this narcissistic creature? Let me see if I 
>got this straight. I'm this world renowned journalist who must be 
>careful about anything I write because it could terrorize parents 
>about the Internet with my views AND my pet thoery is that the 
>dangers of sexual predators in the Internet are exaggerated on the 
>basis of ANECDOTAL evidence, police reports and arrests BUT I don't 
>know how to find my own ANECDOTAL evidence (except my limited 
>impressions from my own little world at home) which will be REAL 
>supporting not ANECDOTAL evidence for my pet theory (read working 
>hypothesis or provisional conclusions about which I am certain) and I 
>don't know where to even find REAL (those which confirm my 
>pre-conceived conclusions and contrived syllogisms) numbers but 
>that's OK, I know what is what and what is really true about sexual 
>predators on the internet and I will not turn my earthshaking piece 
>in another fear-mongering piece thus cause fear among those millions 
>of families who hang on my every word.
>
>Is this person for real? Is this another one of those self-appointed 
>freelance "journalists" with fantasies of grandeur and mass influence?
>Some of these journalists are such narcissistic scum.


Why would an attempt to separate fact from fiction and fear mongering to do
a really modest assignment, like writing a "human interests" article for a
local newspaer, qualify as "narcissistic scum" is beyond me.  Are you
suggesting that she should have followed the footsteps of her more
prestigious colleagues covering the Monica Lewinsky case?

The only reason I reposted this request is that I am nausated by the
claim-and-grievance-manufacturing industry,  of which the media and various
professional groups are an integral part. In the topsy turvy world where
appearances count more than reality and every single event, from Jonesboro
shooting, to the allged sexual adventures of our fearless leader, is turned
into a rallying point for some cause (usually right-wing, wacky, or both)
-- a common sense approach that distrust those manufactured claims from the
start is rare wisdom.  

I wish the professional and academic establishment expressed such
common-sense judiciousness.

Regards,

Wojtek Sokolowski






Re: Peruvian Maoism

1998-04-02 Thread Louis Proyect

Tom Kruse:
>Is this the case?  Have ideas won allegiances?  Relevant to the this line of
>discussion is Fernando Mires' work on revolutions in Latin America.  He does
>a very good analysis on what sorts of conclusions we can/should draw from
>indigenous peoples' participation in social struggles over the years.  He
>studies both the period 1780-1 (Tupaj Katari and Tupaj Amaru), as well as
>the Bolivian "national revolution".  He suggests that the relationships
>between the ideas, leaders and followers in such processes is very
>problematic.

Many thanks to my friend Tom Kruse for his thoughtful post. I told another
friend that I had some worry that my Shining Path piece would make me
persona non grata with my professor pals on PEN-L. If Tom hasn't disowned
me, then I feel I have done an adequate job. Who knows, I might end up in
Bolivia one of these days where we can have a nice chat in person.

The point he raises above is key not only to Peru, but all revolutionary
situations. The masses take up the gun not because somebody has
intellectually convinced them of the merits of socialism, but because the
day-to-day oppression of capitalism is unbearable. On the Marxism lists,
Doug raised the question of the PCP's rejection of indigenism. Geraldo
Renique, who wrote "Time of Fear" with Deborah Poole, argued that many
Quechua youth are attracted to Maoism because it is a form of rejection of
a cultural identity that has a degraded status in Peru. I replied that
there are many Senderologists who argue just the opposite. They claim that
there are subtle appeals to Inca nationalism in the PCP propaganda and that
Gonzalo was presented to the rural masses as a sort of Tupac Amaru figure.
I thought that the problem with these types of analyses is that they are
much too open to conjecture. My guess is that the peasant would be open to
just about any ideology that promised that the system that oppressed them
be demolished. I suspect that the growth of Christian Protestant
millenarian cults in Latin America is another reflection of this sort of
desperation.

When you read the Senderologists, the thing that strikes you is HOW LITTLE
actual engagement there is with the rank-and-file Senderoso. Robin Kirk has
a new book called "The Monkey's Paw" on the movement which attempts to put
a spotlight on the motivations of the membership, but unfortunately she is
just too biased to let them speak for themselves. I will tell you that she
is much less severe in her judgements than she used to be. What the Shining
Path needs is a advocate who will approach them with the sort of
even-handedness that I tried to muster. Of course, they should be able to
speak Quechua and be an expert in Peruvian politics as well. A tall order.

My goal was a simple one. It was to rescue the reputation of the Communist
Party of Peru from the charge that it is Pol Pot-ist. I urge people who
have more than a passing interest in Peru to look for Diaz Martinez's book
on Ayacucho. It is a powerfully reasoned, sensitive attempt to make the
case for sweeping change in the Andean countryside. I should mention, by
the way, that Diaz Martinez was killed in prison during a confrontation
between the Shining Path inmates and their guards.

Louis Proyect






re:state-war

1998-04-02 Thread James Devine

This seems even shorter, though there's more heat than light.

I had written: >>I think one thing to do is start treating "rationalism"
more as a dependent variable and not some extra-historical force [an
independent variable]. ...<<

Ricardo D writes:  >Why is the choice for rationalism between "dependent
variable" and "extra-historical force", whereas the assumed-independent
variable  here cannot be accused of being an extra-historical force? And,
if rationalism is "dependent", how does the assumed-independent variable
exist without any form of human reason?<

You'll note that I didn't put the issue in the either/or way that you
assume, but instead used the phrase "more as a," which speaks of _degrees_
of exogeneity or endogeneity. 

But put the issue in another way: the "human reason" that exists in an
extra-historical way is so abstract that it can show up in lots of
different forms, from feudal rationality to capitalist rationality, to
bureaucratic rationality, to socialist rationality, depending on the
specifics of the social organization in which it exists. Talking about
"human reason" _per se_ isn't very helpful in understanding the world. It's
like talking about the Holy Ghost, which is everywhere and nowhere -- by
definition.

RD had written: >>>The inescapable fact for marxists is that without Lenin
no October  Revolution.<<<

I responded: >>Lenin shaped the nature of the Rev, no doubt about it, just
as Napoleon had a big impact on the recasting of Europe after the French
Revolution (as I said). But Lenin was highly constrained by (1) the Russian
situation of  the time, (2) the organization he led. Like all "great
individuals," Lenin was also a product of his time. You'll note that he
changed his opinions a lot as "material conditions" changed. The Lenin of
WHAT IS TO BE DONE? or TWO TACTICS OF SOCIAL DEMOCRACY is quite different
from that of STATE AND REVOLUTION. ... This suggests that even though
"Great Individuals" shouldn't be ignored, the "Great Individual" theory of
history should be dropped. If Lenin had died before 1917, it's also quite
possible that some other great individual would have arisen to pick up the
torch. Krupskaya? <<

RD now says: >The weakness of your argument here is quite evident when we
are left with the choice of dropping the "great individual theory of
history" so we can pick up Krupskaya!<

The reference to Ms. K was what's known in the trade as a "joke." I doubt
that she had the political basis amongst the Bolsheviks to take over from
Lenin. 

But we don't know what would have happened if Lenin had been having dinner
in September 1917, had choked on a beet, and his dinner companion, Stalin,
hadn't known the Heimlich maneuver (or didn't want to use it), so that the
Bolsheviks were suddenly rendered leaderless.[*] The fact is that there
were other leaders amongst the Bolsheviks who could have eventually
replaced Lenin (I don't count Trotsky among them, since he was treated as
an outsider by the bolshies). Russia was in severe crisis on several
different levels (exemplified by mutinous soldiers and sailors, rebellious
peasants, and workers' soviets), with Karensky's government having an
extremely hard time trying to paper over the contradictions with
legislative fiat. (Maybe Karensky might have been pushed in a more
socialist direction which could have encouraged peasant land-hunger and
worker soviets even more.) Perhaps eventually some mediocrity like Zinoviev
would have been pushed to change his attitudes to lead a revolution; maybe
he would have done a better job, having been forced to think for himself by
the absence of his leader. Perhaps the rev. would have happened in November
rather that October (old style). Maybe the Left Social Revolutionaries,
instead of the bolshies, would have engineered a revolution. But this kind
of counterfactual speculation is pointless after awhile. 

The point is that the broad social forces that produced the Russian
Revolution did not produce the exact kind of revolution that actually
occurred (the October rev.) Rather, they produced only _opportunities_.
Given the balance of forces, the kind of political  organization he led,
and the kinds of allies he had, a "great individual" like Lenin can
engineer a revolution. There is nothing to say that other "great
individuals" can't replace the ones we emphasize with the benefit of
hindsight (even when we talk about competition among leaders, it's the
victors who get the emphasis in the history books). But he (or she) cannot
escape the broad social forces. Once the October revolution had occurred,
another social force reared its ugly head explicitly: the US and other
"Western" forces invaded Russia and its environs. This, plus the
persistence of the societal contradictions within Russia shaped the actual
practice of the October revolution -- and its results -- much more than
Lenin did. A lot of Lenin's writings after the rev. are like descriptions
of efforts to "put out fires" that keep o

Drug warriors supporting single mothers (!?)

1998-04-02 Thread Thomas Kruse

Dear Pen-Lers:

Check out this delicous quote on how to fight the drug war on the demand
side, by none other than the Czar himself, Ge. McCaffrey:

"The family is the number-one defense we have," McCaffrey said. "And
that includes single moms. We must structure society to support
working moms," he told about 350 participants at the first U.S.-Mexico
Binational Demand Reduction Conference held here March 18-20.

"Structure society"!  Golly, don't that sound exciting!  Almost Marxish.
But read on; let's look at the structuring operations they propose:

"The key element in the plan is awareness and information," said
Chavez. "We must team up with educators, clergy and leaders in other
community organizations to reach our young people and give them peer
and adult role models, teach them skills for resisting drugs and
provide safe anchors."

Aw shit; and just when the rhetoric was getting good ... structuring
desire/expectation/fear again, not, say, relations of production.  But there
is another piece:

A second major element is the reduction of tolerance for drug use. "We
cannot just do prevention," McCaffrey said. "We need law enforcement
too. Drugs must be socially disapproved by society."

Guns and night sticks again.  After paragraph 1 had my hopes up ... what
happened to the single moms?  And in closing, the Czar treats us to a bit of
voodoo economics:

At the same time, McCaffrey said, the rest of the world must also work
to reduce its demand for illicit drugs. "The United States is not the
top user of illegal drugs in the world," he stressed. That perception
"is simply not true. The problem is that it is our money that provides
the fuel for international crime."

Let's see: not the top user, but it is US consumption spending that injects
$$ into the hands of "international crime", persumably dealers, cartels,
etc.  Hmmm.  Are US citizens giving Europeans the money to buy drugs?  How
DOES this work?

Just goes to show, in this war you can say whatever the #$%&! you want.

Tom

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common threads

1998-04-02 Thread Michael Perelman

For the most part the discussions concerning the Soviet balance sheet
and Peru seem to be coming up against a very difficult subject.  Nobody
to my knowledge has been able to make much progress in society without
coming up against powerful, and often violent resistance.  Whether it is
the early Teamsters organizing in the U.S., peasants in Peru, or even a
state such as the early S.U. or Nicaragua or Cuba struggling to survive,
all are met with violence.

Matters become even more complicated when strange alliances emerge.  In
the face of this confusion, progressive parties make mistakes.  I can
sit in my office connected to the Internet and pontificate: X is bad.  I
am above all that. yadda yadda yadda.

The real question is more like, what the hell would I do if I wanted to
make a better world.  The common theme is that the answer is not easy.
Even so, I think that we are making a healthy stab at it.

Congratulations to all involved.  I wish that more of you were
participating -- especially those of you located outside of the North
American continent.

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 916-898-5321
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Re: Peruvian Maoism

1998-04-02 Thread Louis Proyect

At 09:09 PM 4/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Friends,
>
>There is a book reviewed in the 12/97 "Monthly Review" by Bruce Cumings.
The book
>is writtne by Maurice Meisner and is titled "The Deng Xiaoping Era: An
Inquiry
>into the Fate of Chinese Socialism."  Cumings gives it a rave review.  Has
anyone
>on the list read it?  It sounds like it has a lot to say about Mao and the
>Cultural Revolution.
>
>Michael yates
>

Meisner's book is first-rate. As far as I know, it is one of the only
Marxist appreciations--as opposed to a Maoist hagiography--of Mao and his
successors. I strongly urge it for anybody who has even a cursory interest
in China.

Louis Proyect






World Debt

1998-04-02 Thread Thomas Kruse

WORLD BANK REPORTS LDC DEBT LEVELS UP SLIGHTLY IN 1997 
25 March 1998 
By Jon Schaffer, USIA Staff Writer

Washington -- The aggregate debt of developing countries rose slightly
in 1997, but debtor nations were better positioned to service their
debt, the World Bank says.

Aggregate debt of 138 developing countries rose from $2.095 trillion
($2,095,400 million) in 1996 to $2.171 trillion in 1997, the World
Bank reported in its annual "Global Development Finance" report issued
March 24.

While there is no one best measure of a country's potential capacity
to service its debt, the report emphasizes certain export measures
because exports are considered important in providing foreign exchange
needed to make debt payments. The report also looks at debt as a
percentage of gross national product (GNP) because GNP is viewed as
the broadest measure of income generation in an economy. All of the
measures showed some improvement.

The World Bank reported that the ratio of total external
debt-to-exports of goods and services fell from 137 percent in 1996 to
134 percent in 1997. The ratio of total external debt-to-GNP fell from
36.0 percent to 34.9 percent and the ratio of total debt service
payments-to-exports of goods and services (also called the debt
service ratio) fell from 17.2 percent to 16.7 percent.

In part, the progress reflected a number of programs implemented by
the international financial community to reduce the debt burden of
some of the poorest nations and strong export growth in a number of
the debtor countries. Nine debt reduction agreements were concluded
with commercial banks in 1997 reducing outstanding debt by $6,700
million. In addition, six low-income countries reached agreement with
creditor governments on $5,800 million in official debt reduction and
five other countries have been made eligible for $1,500 million in
multilateral debt relief under the Highly Indebted Poor Countries
(HIPC) initiative.

Following are some regional trends:

East Asia: Long-term external debt climbed by 10 percent in 1997 to
$111,000 million. The rise reflected increased borrowing by some
countries seeking to take advantage of low foreign interest rates.
Even with the increase, the ratio of debt-to-exports of 103 percent
was below the 134 percent for all developing countries, the report
said. But debt serviceability among the region's countries was mixed
-- low in the middle-income countries and very high among the region's
poorer countries, such as Laos, Burma and Vietnam. The report did not
speculate on the effects of the recent Asian financial crisis on debt
in the region.

Europe and Central Asia: The stock of debt rose 6 percent in 1997 to
$316,000 million, reflecting a $20,000 million increase in debt owed
private creditors. The debt-to-export ratio was down slightly from 105
percent to 102 percent, far below 1993's 142 percent. The debt service
ratio remained at about 11 percent.

Latin America and the Caribbean: Total long-term external debt rose 4
percent to $538,000 million, mainly because of a sharp increase in the
outstanding stock of bonds, which accounts for almost half the total.
The debt indicators are mixed. The debt-to-export ratio fell from 198
percent in 1996 to 193 percent in 1997 and remains far below the 245
percent annual average for 1990-95. However, the average debt
service-to-export ratio was 34 percent in 1997, well above the 26
percent average in 1990-95. Eight of the 14 countries classified as
severely indebted middle-income countries are in this region. The
debt-to-export ratios of Argentina and Brazil approach 300 percent.
Bolivia and Guyana have been reviewed by the IMF and World Bank
executive boards for HIPC debt relief and, assuming good economic
performance, may soon be eligible for debt relief of up to $1,042
million, the report said. It said that the eligibility of Honduras and
Nicaragua for HIPC relief will be reviewed at a later date.

Middle East and North Africa: The stock of long-term external debt
rose 3 percent in 1997 to $166,000 million. While official debt
accounts for 68 percent of the region's external debt, the main source
of the increase was private debt, which rose from $45,000 million to
$53,000 million. As in Latin America, the debt indicators are mixed.
The debt service ratio remained at 11 percent in 1997. However, the
average debt-to-export ratio climbed by four percentage points to 115
percent in 1997. Both Yemen and Jordan agreed to a rescheduling of
their official bilateral debt last year.

South Asia: Disbursements from official creditors -- which hold 75
percent of the region's debt -- boosted slightly the stock of debt to
$139,000 million in 1997. More than half of the official debt is owed
to multilateral financial institutions. The region's ability to
service their debt improved slightly last year and is indicative of a
regional trend during most of the decade. The ratio of debt-to-exports
fell from 194 percent in 1996 to 180 percent in 1997 whil

Re: Request for information

1998-04-02 Thread James Michael Craven

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> At 03:05 PM 4/1/98 +, Jim Craven wrote:
> >This is priceless. Who is this narcissistic creature? Let me see if I 
> >got this straight. I'm this world renowned journalist who must be 
> >careful about anything I write because it could terrorize parents 
> >about the Internet with my views AND my pet thoery is that the 
> >dangers of sexual predators in the Internet are exaggerated on the 
> >basis of ANECDOTAL evidence, police reports and arrests BUT I don't 
> >know how to find my own ANECDOTAL evidence (except my limited 
> >impressions from my own little world at home) which will be REAL 
> >supporting not ANECDOTAL evidence for my pet theory (read working 
> >hypothesis or provisional conclusions about which I am certain) and I 
> >don't know where to even find REAL (those which confirm my 
> >pre-conceived conclusions and contrived syllogisms) numbers but 
> >that's OK, I know what is what and what is really true about sexual 
> >predators on the internet and I will not turn my earthshaking piece 
> >in another fear-mongering piece thus cause fear among those millions 
> >of families who hang on my every word.
> >
> >Is this person for real? Is this another one of those self-appointed 
> >freelance "journalists" with fantasies of grandeur and mass influence?
> >Some of these journalists are such narcissistic scum.
> 
> 
> Why would an attempt to separate fact from fiction and fear mongering to do
> a really modest assignment, like writing a "human interests" article for a
> local newspaer, qualify as "narcissistic scum" is beyond me.  Are you
> suggesting that she should have followed the footsteps of her more
> prestigious colleagues covering the Monica Lewinsky case?
> 
> The only reason I reposted this request is that I am nausated by the
> claim-and-grievance-manufacturing industry,  of which the media and various
> professional groups are an integral part. In the topsy turvy world where
> appearances count more than reality and every single event, from Jonesboro
> shooting, to the allged sexual adventures of our fearless leader, is turned
> into a rallying point for some cause (usually right-wing, wacky, or both)
> -- a common sense approach that distrust those manufactured claims from the
> start is rare wisdom.  
> 
> I wish the professional and academic establishment expressed such
> common-sense judiciousness.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wojtek Sokolowski
> 
Response:

I agree with everything you've said in terms of the basic concepts 
expressed. But perhaps re-read that message from that journalist 
again. How about summarily concluding that the notion of sexual 
predators on the internet is exaggerated on the basis of nothing more 
than one's limited experience with one's own children? What kind of 
investigating, inference or adduction/deduction is that? And how 
about asking for data and sources to confirm a pre-determined 
conclusion which was arrived at on the basis of "evidence" even more 
anecdotal and even more limited than the "evidence" that was being 
summarily rejected as it didn't fit with the pre-determined 
conclusion and the desire not to contribute to "fear mongering" 
(sometimes there are indeed things about which parents ought to have 
some fears just as sometimes paranoids do have real enemies)?

Sorry, but I put that person, perhaps too summarily and unfairly, but 
I put that person in the same camp and some of those other self-
promoting and self-authoritative (without portfolio) "journalists" 
based on her own words deconstructed.

 Jim Craven

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Peru

1998-04-02 Thread Thomas Kruse

Louis and others:

In recounting the Peruvian Yuyasquani theater piece, I forgot a very
important aspect of the symbolism of dismemberment and re-membering.  After
the uprisings and rebellions of the 1780s, one of the indigenous leaders was
quartered by the Spanish troops, his body torn to pieces by four powerful
horses, pulling in four different directions, one limb tied to each.  Just
before dying he is reported to have said "volveremos y seremos millones --
we will return, and we be millions."  The Spaniards scatterd his bones so
that no one might have a body or even a relic to rally around (producing a
disorientng effect perhaps not all that different from what "disapperances"
of this century produce).

It came to be believed that once the pieces of his body were reassembeld,
then the people would return, the millions.  Re-membering -- both physically
and historically -- is a powerful referent.

Tom

The Peruvian theater company Yuyasquani (sp?) is not.  They did an
absolutely incredible presentation in La Paz some time ago.  The theater
piece dealt with violence, and was produced collaboratively by the members
of the group.  The story they told:  In one (of so many) acts of systematic,
exemplary violence loosed on the rural population, a Peruvian Army unit
dismembers the play's protagonist.  The rest of the work is our dead hero's
epic journey in search of his own bones, so that he might re-member himself
and rest in peace.  The journey takes him along the well worn migratory path
from countryside to city, thus re-enacting the ubiquitous culmination of
"land hunger".  Finally he arrives Lima, that teeming, horrific tragedy of a
city.  (Lima was for me the most alienating, aggressive, hateful place I
have yet experienced.)  Finally the hero stumbles his way to the Cathedral
in the center of the city, and in the crypt he finds his bones, mixed up
with and indistinguishable from those of Pizarro's, the conqueror.




Tom Kruse / Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia
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Fw: "To spite them all." (Russ Election) (fwd)

1998-04-02 Thread Michael Eisenscher

If nearly all politicians are crooks, why settle for a pale imitation when
you can have the real thing?

>Johnson's Russia List
>#2127
>1 April 1998
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>***
>
>#9
>The Electronic Telegraph
>1 April 1998
>[for personal use only]
>Convicted criminal is elected mayor of Russia's third city
>By Alan Philps in Moscow
>
>   VOTERS in Russia's third city, Nizhny Novgorod, once considered the
>vanguard of economic reform, have dealt a blow to the political elite by
>electing a twice-convicted criminal as mayor.
>   Andrei Klimentyev, a nightclub owner known as "the Pimple", was
>sentenced in 1982 to eight years in jail for fraud and selling
>pornographic videos, and recently served an 18-month sentence for
>embezzling £1.5 million of a state loan. He polled 34 per cent of the
>vote, beating by two points the current incumbent, a lawyer. The Kremlin
>immediately sought to challenge the result, which marks a serious blow
>to the Volga city's prestige.
>   Under the governorship of Boris Nemtsov, now deputy prime minister in
>the Russian government, the city was a beacon of reform in the stagnant
>provinces. Lady Thatcher and John Major went there, and it was chosen as
>the site for an experiment to turn Soviet-style collective farms into
>modern agricultural businesses.
>   But the people of Nizhny Novgorod took delight in overturning the city's
>good reputation. One woman, asked why she voted for Mr Klimentyev, said:
>"To spite them all." The Kremlin said that President Yeltsin was
>"alarmed and deeply concerned" at the result. Alexander Ivanchenko,
>chairman of the Central Electoral Commission, called for the vote to be
>cancelled, saying Mr Klimentyev had bought votes.
>   The new mayor responded: "Who is going to declare the vote invalid? I'm
>the boss here now." The mayor never tried to smarten himself up,
>realising a gangster is a stronger pull at the polls than his grey,
>careerist rivals. All politicians and the police are widely seen as
>corrupt, greedy and selfish, while criminals are able to project a Robin
>Hood image. During his campaign, Mr Klimentyev promised to open three
>groceries where pensioners could buy cut-price chicken legs, pig's
>hearts and salo, or salted pork fat, a peasant delicacy that is washed
>down with vodka.
>   The city's go-ahead image is very important for the Kremlin, and Mr
>Yeltsin has used it as a source of new blood for his administration. It
>is the home of Mr Nemtsov and the new acting prime minister, Sergei
>Kiriyenko. But the successful image is superficial. Wages in many
>factories are delayed for months, and the defence plants lay idle.
>
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Re: Russia

1998-04-02 Thread MScoleman

60 Minutes has done several slots on the low pay of the military -- you might
give them a call and get transcripts.  Also a newspaper search on government
employees not getting paid at all for months at a time should be productive, I
know I've read a couple of Times articles to that effect.

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Russia

1998-04-02 Thread Mark Jones

I presume the official concerned did not attempt to consult the 3 million men
aged between 23-45 who according to official Russians stats (cited on JRL)
died *in excess of * the demographic trendline since 1991. This calamity, the
worst ever in Russian peace time history,combined with falling fertility and
birth rates,  has resulted in the Russian census department producing a new
population estimate of 90 million (down from the present 147m) by 2050.
Russian male life expectancy is now lower than most African countries, at 56.5
years, down a full decade from Soviet times.

Who was this Goebbels you were talking with?

Mark



Doug Henwood wrote:

> I was just told by a U.S. government official that claims of a 50% decline
> in Russian incomes during this decade are based on flawed stats, and that
> few Russians would claim that they're worse off now than in 1990.
>
> This strikes me as preposterous, but does anyone have some data to back up
> my skepticism?
>
> Doug










[Fwd: M-I: Re: M-TH: Re: Peruvian Maoism]

1998-04-02 Thread Mark Jones

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--6D0B31EBEF66B8470C90ED13

Adolfo Olaechea, chair of Committee Sol Peru in London, commented
on my posting and I am forwarding it, appropriately, to Pen-L.
Mark

--6D0B31EBEF66B8470C90ED13

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>Didn't take long for the tame Senderologists to show their head, did it?
>The problem with the kind of thinking Rob Saute exemplifies is that his
>alternative is, well, what they've got: Fujimori and all the things which give
>him aid and comfort. Jim Craven asks why the bile? I believe it's this: the
>left is so exercised by the PCP's alleged 'human rights' violations because the
>answer the PCP gave to left-wing hypocrisy was definitive.
>
>That's why it hurts.
>
>Mark
>
>Robert Saute, CUNY Grad Center wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Louis Proyect wrote:
>>
>> > We sometimes forget that the Shining Path is in a war
>> > with the Peruvian state and not the American left and its allies in Peru.
>>
>> Of course, Louis Proyect is partially correct in the above
>> statement.  The Communist Party of Peru/Shining Path/Sendero Luminoso is
>> not at war with the U.S. Left; they could probably care less.  On the
>> other hand, many a labor leader, leftist party militant, shanty-town
>> organizer or peasant activist killed at the hands of Sendero Luminoso
>> cadre might from the grave, were that possible, find his characterization
>> of Shining Path's enemies a bit disingenuous.  Seen through the lens of a
>> debate on just how semi-feudal Peru is or is not, the endless
>> preoccupation with human rights does seem to be so much drivel.
>>
>> Sub-comandante Marcos take heed, knock off a few human rights
>> workers from the Catholic Church, execute a doctor or two from San
>> Cristobal, murder local activists from the PRD, and Zapatista stock will
>> rise in Lou's eyes.
>>
>> May a thousand dead dogs hang from the lampposts of a land purged of petty
>> bourgeois revisionists and misleaders of the working class!
>>
>> Sincerely yours,
>>
>> Robert Saute
>>



Dear Mark:

I will like to comment with you the question of the real significance of all
this "human rights" and "murder of union and local activists" that the
mouthpieces of US imperialism posing as "people of the left" lay at the door
of the Peruvian Maoist revolutionaries of the PCP.

You are absolutely right that behind all this talk about "Human Rights"
there is only concern for BOURGOIS PROPERTY RIGHTS and Maria Antoniette
style "aristocratic altruism" of the kind of "if there is no bread, serve
them cakes" which permeates the mentality of the liberal or social
imperialist of the Western "leftist" variety from the cradle to the grave!  

Not in vain these are basically the same people who thought nothing of
advancing slogans such as "we are the world" and other condescending saviour
Amnesty International kind of "solidarity".   

But, let us address the concrete accusation of "killing union and community
activists" which these gentlemen apologists of the ruling classes
shamelessly lay at the Peruvian communists.

Recently in Peru, the Fujimori intelligence services have released the true
curriculum of the scab Huillca, chief of the so called GGTP (Peruvian TUC)
who was, according to El Diario Internacional, executed by a guerilla
detchment of the PCP a few years ago.  It is well known that about Mr.
Huillca and his fate, all the international Trade Union bureacrats and all
the bogus leftists in the world have not ceased to shed tears and express
outrage against the revolutionaries.

Now, from the Intelligence Services of Fujimori's dictatorship, it is
officially acknowledged that Mr. Huillca did indeed work as an agent,
informer and organiser of paramilitary death squads.  The eternal gratitude
of the sinister organism headed by Fujimori's bloodthirsty "Rasputin",
Vladimiro Montesinos to Mr. Huillca, whom they themselves have called "our
comrade in arms" has now been revealed in full.  What have the "defenders of
the Peruvian Union and community leaders" have to say to this?

Not much, since Orwell, Isaiah Berlin, and company, people whom they
likewise promote as "representatives of the popular cause" have also
recently been exposed by their former imperialist employers as playing the
same role in European working class politics as those putative "Union and
community leaders such as Huillca, Maria Elena Moyano, etc. play in Peru:
Counter-revolutionary activities and DEFENSE OF THE SOCIAL ORDER OF
EXPLOITATION AND OPPRESSION, at the very basis of which lays the same
BOURGEOIS PROPERTY RIGHTS which they wave as "Human Right" to beffuddle the
unaware and divert the proletariat and the people from the revolutionary road.


Adolfo Olaechea   



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