Re: Maybe they should start calling him "angry"

[Doug Henwood]

Michael Hoover wrote:

'best' reason why nader shouldn't run is that he is stone cold bore...
But at least he has the nerve to stand up to Communist Chinese
tyranny and those corporate purveyors of porn to children!
perhaps he should go back to doing what he does best,
what mainstream (specifically, 'rational choice') poli sci people call
'political entrepreneur', takes lead in setting up and operating groups,
lets others 'free ride' to give appearance of broad-based support,
political activity akin to 'business decision', nader as 'founder' of
interest group lobbies/'astroturf' political orgs is 'good investment',
nader as candidate is 'bad investment'...
He lost a lot of trial lawyer funding, according to Thomas Burke
(check out my interview with him at
; scroll down to the
Dec 19 2002 show). They're steamed that he cost Gore the election
(their perception, not mine).
Doug

Re: Maybe they should start calling him "angry"

[dmschanoes]

Why do we care whether he runs or not?  Does it make a difference in
teasing apart the intertwined strands of the organs of power, the officals
of private, state, and trade union bureaucratic property?

I don't think it does.  Not one bit.

dms

Re: Maybe they should start calling him "angry"

[Michael Hoover]

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/22/04 9:23 AM >>>
nader left few 'tracks' in 2000, will leave fewer in 2000, offers little
likelihood of developing social movement potential (factors all
irrespective of whether one thinks of him as 'traitor nader' re. 2000
or not)...   michael hoover

will leaver fewer in 2000 should, quite obviously, have read 2004...

Re: Maybe they should start calling him "angry"

[Michael Hoover]

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/04 10:25 AM >>>
NY Times, February 21, 2004
Democrats United in Asking That Nader Not Enter Race
Some of Ralph Nader's best friends are desperately trying to persuade
him
not to run for president this year.
The left-leaning Nation magazine has pleaded in an open letter, "Don't
Run."
"As I said in 2000, he's one of the most stubborn men in America," said
Joan Claybrook, a close friend of his and head of Public Citizen, a
group
that Mr. Nader founded.
Louis Proyect
<>

'best' reason why nader shouldn't run is that he is stone cold bore...

perhaps he should go back to doing what he does best,
what mainstream (specifically, 'rational choice') poli sci people call
'political entrepreneur', takes lead in setting up and operating groups,
lets others 'free ride' to give appearance of broad-based support,
political activity akin to 'business decision', nader as 'founder' of
interest group lobbies/'astroturf' political orgs is 'good investment',
nader as candidate is 'bad investment'...

nader left few 'tracks' in 2000, will leave fewer in 2000, offers little
likelihood of developing social movement potential (factors all
irrespective of whether one thinks of him as 'traitor nader' re. 2000
or not)...   michael hoover