Re: New system

1994-03-15 Thread Zodiac

Mr Doug writes:

> On the old PEN-L system, PINE used to distinguish between the "From:" and
> "Reply to:" fields, and it would ask "Use reply to instead of From?" That
> no longer happens - apparently the Reply to: field is empty now. I have
> other mailers to choose from here, but I'm habituated to PINE, and like
> all old farts, reluctant to change. So is there some way to fill the reply
> field? Or can some Unix junkies offer some advice?

_Exactly_ the solution I asked for, Doug.  Leave the from line as the 
sender, and make "reply to:" the pen-l address.  The best of all worlds.

And don't be feeling ashamed of Pine, there, Doug. :)  It and Elm are 
becoming something of default standards on most commerical connections I 
know of. 

As to Marsh's comment:

> > Some of us have mail systems that distinguish between the mailing list,
> > the mail's author, and other conceptually distinct entities involved
> > in the posting's origins.  In such systems, knowing the mail comes
> > from a particular individual IN ADDITION to knowing it is forwarded by
> > a particular list is very useful.  Whatever solution is found for
> > Doug's problem ought not take away the additional functionality enjoyed
> > by those of us with more capable mail processing software.

Pine does all this.  It just needs the "reply to:" part filled in.

The current set-up change prevents me from sorting incoming mail into
folders (like one for PEN-L and one for PSN, etc.), instead flooding my
personal mailbox with messages that _seem_ to be to me directly. 

Ken.
--
"Don't HATE the media... | K.K.Campbell 
beCOME the media!" --*--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- J. Biafra  |  . . . . cum grano salis





Re: New system

1994-03-15 Thread Zodiac

Mr Doug writes:

> On the old PEN-L system, PINE used to distinguish between the "From:" and
> "Reply to:" fields, and it would ask "Use reply to instead of From?" That
> no longer happens - apparently the Reply to: field is empty now. I have
> other mailers to choose from here, but I'm habituated to PINE, and like
> all old farts, reluctant to change. So is there some way to fill the reply
> field? Or can some Unix junkies offer some advice?

_Exactly_ the solution I asked for, Doug.  Leave the from line as the 
sender, and make "reply to:" the pen-l address.  The best of all worlds.

And don't be feeling ashamed of Pine, there, Doug. :)  It and Elm are 
becoming something of default standards on most commerical connections I 
know of. 

As to Marsh's comment:

> > Some of us have mail systems that distinguish between the mailing list,
> > the mail's author, and other conceptually distinct entities involved
> > in the posting's origins.  In such systems, knowing the mail comes
> > from a particular individual IN ADDITION to knowing it is forwarded by
> > a particular list is very useful.  Whatever solution is found for
> > Doug's problem ought not take away the additional functionality enjoyed
> > by those of us with more capable mail processing software.

Pine does all this.  It just needs the "reply to:" part filled in.

The current set-up change prevents me from sorting incoming mail into
folders (like one for PEN-L and one for PSN, etc.), instead flooding my
personal mailbox with messages that _seem_ to be to me directly. 

Ken.
--
"Don't HATE the media... | K.K.Campbell 
beCOME the media!" --*--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- J. Biafra  |  . . . . cum grano salis




Re: New system

1994-03-15 Thread Doug Henwood

On the old PEN-L system, PINE used to distinguish between the "From:" and
"Reply to:" fields, and it would ask "Use reply to instead of From?" That
no longer happens - apparently the Reply to: field is empty now. I have
other mailers to choose from here, but I'm habituated to PINE, and like
all old farts, reluctant to change. So is there some way to fill the reply
field? Or can some Unix junkies offer some advice?

Doug

Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Left Business Observer
212-874-4020 (voice)
212-874-3137 (fax)


On Tue, 15 Mar 1994, Marshall Feldman wrote:

> 
> >Posted on 14 Mar 1994 at 10:59:09 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
> >
> >New system
> >
> >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 07:57:23 -0800
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >It's confusing not to have PEN-L listed as the source of a message; the
> >new software makes everything look like pseudo-personalized direct mail.
> >And, at least on this system (PINE 3.05, on a Sun UNIX), you can't reply
> >to PEN-L; a reply goes to the author.
> >
> >Can this be fixed? Or is this the price of progress?
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Left Business Observer
> >212-874-4020 (voice)
> >212-874-3137 (fax)
> >
> >
> 
> Some of us have mail systems that distinguish between the mailing list,
> the mail's author, and other conceptually distinct entities involved
> in the posting's origins.  In such systems, knowing the mail comes
> from a particular individual IN ADDITION to knowing it is forwarded by
> a particular list is very useful.  Whatever solution is found for
> Doug's problem ought not take away the additional functionality enjoyed
> by those of us with more capable mail processing software.
> 
> Marsh Feldman
> Community Planning  Phone: 401/792-2248
> 204 Rodman Hall   FAX: 401/792-4395
> University of Rhode Island   Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Kingston, RI 02881-0815






Re: New system

1994-03-15 Thread Doug Henwood

On the old PEN-L system, PINE used to distinguish between the "From:" and
"Reply to:" fields, and it would ask "Use reply to instead of From?" That
no longer happens - apparently the Reply to: field is empty now. I have
other mailers to choose from here, but I'm habituated to PINE, and like
all old farts, reluctant to change. So is there some way to fill the reply
field? Or can some Unix junkies offer some advice?

Doug

Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Left Business Observer
212-874-4020 (voice)
212-874-3137 (fax)


On Tue, 15 Mar 1994, Marshall Feldman wrote:

> 
> >Posted on 14 Mar 1994 at 10:59:09 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
> >
> >New system
> >
> >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 07:57:23 -0800
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >It's confusing not to have PEN-L listed as the source of a message; the
> >new software makes everything look like pseudo-personalized direct mail.
> >And, at least on this system (PINE 3.05, on a Sun UNIX), you can't reply
> >to PEN-L; a reply goes to the author.
> >
> >Can this be fixed? Or is this the price of progress?
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Left Business Observer
> >212-874-4020 (voice)
> >212-874-3137 (fax)
> >
> >
> 
> Some of us have mail systems that distinguish between the mailing list,
> the mail's author, and other conceptually distinct entities involved
> in the posting's origins.  In such systems, knowing the mail comes
> from a particular individual IN ADDITION to knowing it is forwarded by
> a particular list is very useful.  Whatever solution is found for
> Doug's problem ought not take away the additional functionality enjoyed
> by those of us with more capable mail processing software.
> 
> Marsh Feldman
> Community Planning  Phone: 401/792-2248
> 204 Rodman Hall   FAX: 401/792-4395
> University of Rhode Island   Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Kingston, RI 02881-0815





Re: New system

1994-03-15 Thread Marshall Feldman


>Posted on 14 Mar 1994 at 10:59:09 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
>
>New system
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 07:57:23 -0800
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>It's confusing not to have PEN-L listed as the source of a message; the
>new software makes everything look like pseudo-personalized direct mail.
>And, at least on this system (PINE 3.05, on a Sun UNIX), you can't reply
>to PEN-L; a reply goes to the author.
>
>Can this be fixed? Or is this the price of progress?
>
>Doug
>
>Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Left Business Observer
>212-874-4020 (voice)
>212-874-3137 (fax)
>
>

Some of us have mail systems that distinguish between the mailing list,
the mail's author, and other conceptually distinct entities involved
in the posting's origins.  In such systems, knowing the mail comes
from a particular individual IN ADDITION to knowing it is forwarded by
a particular list is very useful.  Whatever solution is found for
Doug's problem ought not take away the additional functionality enjoyed
by those of us with more capable mail processing software.

Marsh Feldman
Community Planning  Phone: 401/792-2248
204 Rodman Hall   FAX: 401/792-4395
University of Rhode Island   Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kingston, RI 02881-0815



Re: New system

1994-03-15 Thread Marshall Feldman


>Posted on 14 Mar 1994 at 10:59:09 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
>
>New system
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 07:57:23 -0800
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>It's confusing not to have PEN-L listed as the source of a message; the
>new software makes everything look like pseudo-personalized direct mail.
>And, at least on this system (PINE 3.05, on a Sun UNIX), you can't reply
>to PEN-L; a reply goes to the author.
>
>Can this be fixed? Or is this the price of progress?
>
>Doug
>
>Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Left Business Observer
>212-874-4020 (voice)
>212-874-3137 (fax)
>
>

Some of us have mail systems that distinguish between the mailing list,
the mail's author, and other conceptually distinct entities involved
in the posting's origins.  In such systems, knowing the mail comes
from a particular individual IN ADDITION to knowing it is forwarded by
a particular list is very useful.  Whatever solution is found for
Doug's problem ought not take away the additional functionality enjoyed
by those of us with more capable mail processing software.

Marsh Feldman
Community Planning  Phone: 401/792-2248
204 Rodman Hall   FAX: 401/792-4395
University of Rhode Island   Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kingston, RI 02881-0815