Re: dsanet: Clinton, Iraq and Nuclear Weapons
Gar Lipow ended his post thus: President Clinton is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] VP Al Gore is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Madeline Albright is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] [etc.] I know we've had forwards on peace groups and demonstrations and such lately -- all extremely important. But I bet no activist out there objects to this addition. Leaving aside whether or not my calloused fingertips qualify me as an activist, I must say that, yes, I do object to all such last-minute appeals to the very scum at the heart of this game. We've had months and years to probe for the existence of kindred spirits among the vets and adherents of the putative right/far right. I think some of us are, however, too attached instead to fantasies of instructing Congressional committees in their Marxist ABCs and other convivial acts of common cause. We never learn that _every_ gesture toward the center of power gives it additional strength. valis -- To those who, shocked to death, now arrive at 6:30 for Manpower's morning shape-up, I can only ask: Where was your political interest when a tube and a six-pack were the bookends of your life? --
dsanet: Clinton, Iraq and Nuclear Weapons
This message is from: "Gar W. Lipow" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following are the top few paragraphs of an article which appeared in the Tacoma News Tribune of Yesterday, Jan 28th -- apparently bought form Newsday. Does the refusal to rule out nukes make anyone besides me nervous? Apparently the Pentagon does normally rule out nuclear weapons during conventional attacks. With zippergate, the "he can't be that stupid" loses any reassurance it may have ever held. Nothing, including nukes, ruled out if Saddam won't allow more inspections Patrick J. Sloyan; Newsday WASHINGTON - President Clinton has ordered preparations for a "devastating" strike on Iraq's suspected biological weapons sites to be launched next month if a last-ditch diplomatic effort fails to persuade Saddam Hussein to open his door to U.N. weapons inspectors, U.S. officials said Tuesday. For the first time since the 1991 Persian Gulf War, the Pentagon also refused to rule out the possibility of using nuclear warheads to attack underground bunkers where the Iraqi leader may have buried Scud missiles and stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons. If it does, this is not a bad time to call your Congress member, your Senator, and to send e-mail to the President and Madeline Albright. I'm sure everyone on this list has long since sent letter opposing the U.S. bombing the hell out of Iraq's people with any weapons, but you might mention that again as well. President Clinton is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] VP Al Gore is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Madeline Albright is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to try e-mailing your Congress member or Senator try http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ While the site is geared to use addresses to figure out who people's Representatives and Senators are, it also give you e-mail address for those pols who have one. I know we've had forwards on peace groups and demonstrations and such lately -- all extremely important. But I bet no activist out there objects to this addition.
Re: dsanet: Clinton, Iraq and Nuclear Weapons
valis wrote: Gar Lipow ended his post thus: President Clinton is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] VP Al Gore is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Madeline Albright is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] [etc.] I know we've had forwards on peace groups and demonstrations and such lately -- all extremely important. But I bet no activist out there objects to this addition. Leaving aside whether or not my calloused fingertips qualify me as an activist, You know better than I how to classify yourself. I must say that, yes, I do object to all such last-minute appeals to the very scum at the heart of this game. All right Presumably your next sentences will tell me why We've had months and years to probe for the existence of kindred spirits among the vets and adherents of the putative right/far right I know that the Fellowship Of Reconciliation at least has been doing this, with more success among vets than among the right/far right. Did you try this? What kind of response did you get? . I think some of us are, however, too attached instead to fantasies of instructing Congressional committees in their Marxist ABCs and other convivial acts of common cause. When you say "us", you must have a mouse in your pocket, because none of my fantasies involve government officials of any type. We never learn that _every_ gesture toward the center of power gives it additional strength. No matter which finger you use? valis As the bastards in charge move from murdering the people of Iraq though starvation and deprivation of medical supplies to murdering them through bombs. are you saying we should not escalate our opposition by all means possible -- including letters? -- To those who, shocked to death, now arrive at 6:30 for Manpower's morning shape-up, I can only ask: Where was your political interest when a tube and a six-pack were the bookends of your life? -- So -- better never than late?
