[PEN-L] careerism gets a bad rap once again...

2007-01-16 Thread Jim Devine

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-robin14jan14,1,3155243.story

Did getting ahead get us into Iraq?
How upward mobility and careerism inside and outside government may
have silenced naysayers before the U.S. invaded Iraq.

By Corey Robin

COREY ROBIN, author of Fear: The History of a Political Idea,
teaches political science at Brooklyn College and the Graduate Center
of the City University of New York. A longer version of this artic

January 14, 2007

WHEN philosopher Hannah Arendt died in 1975, she was primarily known
as an argumentative woman who coined the phrase the banality of
evil. Since then, her star has risen (literally: In 1990, two
scientists named an asteroid after her).

Last year, as professors, journalists and intellectuals celebrated the
centenary of her birth, she completed the journey of all great
philosophers, from controversy to canon. Every week, it seemed, some
new pundit would trot out her theory of totalitarianism, dutifully
extending it, as her followers did during the Cold War, to the
nation's enemies: Al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, Iran.

In what is now thought to be her masterpiece, The Origins of
Totalitarianism, Arendt argued that men and women in the first half
of the 20th century were lonely and anxious. Stumbling through the
rubble of war-torn Europe, they searched in vain for the touchstones
that once had made their lives meaningful and secure: religion, social
hierarchy and national identity.

They found them in totalitarianism, sort of. Fitting men and women
with a band of iron, Nazism and Stalinism gave desperate individuals
a sense of connection and structure.

Most historians who are truly familiar with the period have rejected
this analysis. Supporters of Hitler and Stalin, they point out, were
already integrated into society; the Nazis and Soviets, in fact, often
worked through established institutions such as the military, the
schools or the church. Mass violence spoke less to the psychic needs
of the masses than it did to the political needs of the regime.
Nevertheless, a number of writers and journalists have recently taken
it up as an explanation of radical Islam, turning Arendt into the
philosopher-queen of the war on terror.

The way they see it, globalization threatens the traditional customs
and institutions of the Middle East. Unable to adapt to secular trends
and the creative destruction of modern capitalism, Muslims and Arabs
now seek meaning in a meaningless world. Enter radical Islam.
Fundamentalist piety rehabilitates medieval truths; rigid gender roles
re-create feudal hierarchies; senseless violence against Westerners
and Israelis happily divides the world into us and them.

The main problem with this thesis is that, like Arendt's treatment of
Nazism and Stalinism, it gives short shrift to politics. As we've seen
again and again, radical Islamists are not driven so much by a feeling
of being out of place as by their anger at long-standing U.S. support
for Israel and repressive Arab regimes, the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan and, in Europe, discrimination against Muslims and Arabs.

Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, head of Britain's counterintelligence
and security agency, says that British suicide bombers are motivated
by perceived worldwide and long-standing injustices against Muslims
and by the perception that British foreign policy is anti-Muslim.
Intellectuals and journalists aren't wrong to turn to Arendt for
insight into today's events; they're just looking for it in the wrong
places. If they worried less about the Muslim world and more about
their own, they might find a clarifying mirror in Arendt's other
masterpiece, Eichmann in Jerusalem.

Great crimes such as the Holocaust, Arendt argued in Eichmann, often
arise from small vices. Eichmann's was careerism. What for Eichmann
was a job, with its daily routine, its ups and downs, was for the Jews
quite literally the end of the world.

Eichmann had no motives at all, she insisted, except for an
extraordinary diligence in looking out for his personal advancement.
He joined the Nazis because he saw in them an opportunity to start
from scratch and still make a career and what he fervently believed
in up to the end was success.

Like war, genocide is work. If it is to be done, people must be hired
and paid. If it is to be done well, they must be supervised and
promoted. Careerism, that pinched desire for self-advancement, makes
the trains run on time — not just in Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia
but in the United States.

When commentators try to explain how and why the nation went to war
against Iraq, they generally focus on the neoconservatives who gave
the project its philosophical underpinnings, or on the bad
intelligence that persuaded so many others to back it. Few mention the
rampant careerism that enabled the Bush administration to launch the
war and to bungle the occupation. After a CIA station chief in Baghdad
saw his career ruined because he wrote a negative assessment of 

[PEN-L] Children of Men

2007-01-16 Thread Jim Devine

a good film, I'd say. Very progressive. As critics have noted, it's
really about the present (e.g., Abu Graib and Guantanamo transplanted
to the UK).

It was so well done that my wife and I forgot to eat the candy we'd
smuggled into the theater. Of course, they borrowed those magic
bullets that never hit the hero until the end of the film from the
film Blood Diamond.

--
Jim Devine / Doubt is uncomfortable, but certainty is ridiculous. -- Voltaire.


[PEN-L] Ah-nold

2007-01-16 Thread Jim Devine

a few years ago, people on pen-l were sneering at California for
electing Ah-nold Schwartzenegger as gov. Justly so, given the track
record of Jesse Ventura and the like. But nowadays, he seems nothing
but a more charismatic version of the previous gov, Gray Davis. (Of
course, Davis isn't hard to beat in the charisma competition.)

I think the similarity is that they're under similar political
pressures. Davis took campaign contributions from the nurses' union,
while the Austrian Axeman is pressured by their harassment (and justly
so). In general, however, the constellation of forces isn't that
different.

--
Jim Devine / Doubt is uncomfortable, but certainty is ridiculous. -- Voltaire.


Re: [PEN-L] Ah-nold

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman
He's more clever than Davis.  He ran as a centrist, then took the role of a hard
right radical, except on social issues.  Now he is running as a soft Democrat,
working closely with the Democratic leadership, which consciously undercut the
Democratic candidate in the last election.  I'm not sure if his triangulation 
will
work, offering some red meat to the Republicans, who are now behaving as his 
enemies.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 10:47:41AM -0800, Jim Devine wrote:
 a few years ago, people on pen-l were sneering at California for
 electing Ah-nold Schwartzenegger as gov. Justly so, given the track
 record of Jesse Ventura and the like. But nowadays, he seems nothing
 but a more charismatic version of the previous gov, Gray Davis. (Of
 course, Davis isn't hard to beat in the charisma competition.)

 I think the similarity is that they're under similar political
 pressures. Davis took campaign contributions from the nurses' union,
 while the Austrian Axeman is pressured by their harassment (and justly
 so). In general, however, the constellation of forces isn't that
 different.

 --
 Jim Devine / Doubt is uncomfortable, but certainty is ridiculous. -- 
 Voltaire.

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
michaelperelman.wordpress.com


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 1/15/07, Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That said, if the left and the Islamists were equally vying for the
allegiance of the masses in their own countries, they'd be at each other's
throats - as in Palestine, for example.


Fatah is not the left, however.


The current effort of some Marxists to ally with the Islamists and other
religious parties with mass constituencies is a reflection of their
isolation, their inability to project themselves as an independent mass
force, an attempt to indirectly gain access to the masses through the
churches and mosques.


It's not so much isolation as non-existence: the left is virtually
non-existent in the USA and the Middle East.
--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


[PEN-L] Fwd: gas prices

2007-01-16 Thread Jim Devine

I notice that gasoline prices are _still_ mostly down since August. We
still haven't seen the post-election spike that some theories predict.

The fact is that oil and gas prices reflect the often unpredictable
gyrations of supply, demand, and politics.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Nov 29, 2006 6:45 AM
Subject: gas prices
To: Pen-l pen-l@sus.csuchico.edu


On the cover of the current issue of the magazine THE FUNNY TIMES
(which went to the printer before the election, I believe), there's a
cartoon suggesting that immediately after the election, gasoline
prices will jump. This magazine -- which presents a good sampling of
liberal funny opinion -- had inadvertently presented a possible test
of the gas price conspiracy theory that was popular before the
election: the Bushwhackers had artificially lowered the price of gas
to help them stem the DP tide, by calling in favors with the petrol
industry, etc. As suggested by the cartoon, the corollary of that
theory is that after the election, gas prices would soar, since Big
Petrol would want to make up for lost time (or rather, lost profits).

Did gas prices soar, provisionally validating the conspiracy theory?
no. They've stayed flat. See the price at the pump. Or see the
government data at:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_history.html
--
Jim Devine / Doubt is uncomfortable, but certainty is ridiculous. -- Voltaire.


Re: [PEN-L] gas prices

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 11/29/06, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Doug Henwood wrote:

 On Nov 29, 2006, at 12:54 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:

  In the last 50 years how many
  price-changes of a few dollars a barrel have there been?

 The average of the absolute value of the yearly change in the yearly
 average price of oil is 22% since 1861; 27% since 1970. In other
 words, the price of oil is extremely volatile.

O.K. And the implication I would draw from this is that when a point
wanders all over the place all the time _nothing_ whatever can be
inferred from one particular variation, or even half a dozen. I'm not
sure what even in principle _might_ a variation that could be assigned
any meaning.


One of the determinants would be the degree of capacity for collective
action on the part of oil producers, and it would be interesting to
track that.
--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


Re: [PEN-L] Ah-nold

2007-01-16 Thread Jim Devine

He wants to be President, but the constitution says no.

On 1/16/07, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

He's more clever than Davis.  He ran as a centrist, then took the role of a hard
right radical, except on social issues.  Now he is running as a soft Democrat,
working closely with the Democratic leadership, which consciously undercut the
Democratic candidate in the last election.  I'm not sure if his triangulation 
will
work, offering some red meat to the Republicans, who are now behaving as his 
enemies.


--
Jim Devine / Doubt is uncomfortable, but certainty is ridiculous. -- Voltaire.


[PEN-L] Russia's Oil Output

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

The WSJ says that Russia's oil output growth has slowed down: Energy
prices are falling, if slowly. Russia's rusty gas and oil rigs cry out
for fresh investment. Oil output slowed again last year, to 2.2%,
compared with near-double-digit growth earlier in the decade, when
Russia's private concerns, some of them since nationalized, led the
way.  Alienating friends like the Germans and scaring away investors
like Shell, dumped last month from the lead in the Sakhalin-2 project,
aren't smart ways to address these problems (Crude Calculations, 11
January 2007).  The WSJ attributes the slowdown to lack of foreign
investment, but some Russia hands believe that it is due to Moscow's
conscious efforts to conserve its resources.  Which is true?

--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Doug Henwood

On Jan 16, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:


It's not so much isolation as non-existence: the left is virtually
non-existent in the USA and the Middle East.


You may be exaggerating the non-existence, but in any case - what do
you propose to do about it? Just throw up your hands and join the
fundies?

Doug


Re: [PEN-L] Russia's Oil Output

2007-01-16 Thread Jim Devine

both could be true.

On 1/16/07, Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The WSJ says that Russia's oil output growth has slowed down: Energy
prices are falling, if slowly. Russia's rusty gas and oil rigs cry out
for fresh investment. Oil output slowed again last year, to 2.2%,
compared with near-double-digit growth earlier in the decade, when
Russia's private concerns, some of them since nationalized, led the
way.  Alienating friends like the Germans and scaring away investors
like Shell, dumped last month from the lead in the Sakhalin-2 project,
aren't smart ways to address these problems (Crude Calculations, 11
January 2007).  The WSJ attributes the slowdown to lack of foreign
investment, but some Russia hands believe that it is due to Moscow's
conscious efforts to conserve its resources.  Which is true?

--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/




--
Jim Devine / Doubt is uncomfortable, but certainty is ridiculous. -- Voltaire.


Re: [PEN-L] gas prices

2007-01-16 Thread Doug Henwood

On Jan 16, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Jim Devine wrote:


I notice that gasoline prices are _still_ mostly down since August. We
still haven't seen the post-election spike that some theories predict.


Oil is down 4% today to under $51 a barrel. It averaged $59 in
November and $62 in December. Maybe Cheney's been distracted,
preparing his testimony for the Scooter Libby trial.

Doug


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 1/16/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Jan 16, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:

 It's not so much isolation as non-existence: the left is virtually
 non-existent in the USA and the Middle East.

You may be exaggerating the non-existence, but in any case - what do
you propose to do about it? Just throw up your hands and join the
fundies?


The first thing to do is to understand different currents of Islam --
e.g., not all Islamists are fundamentalists, and not all
fundamentalist Muslims are Islamists -- and figure out  which currents
we could support if we had our own social force.
--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Doug Henwood

On Jan 16, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:


The first thing to do is to understand different currents of Islam --
e.g., not all Islamists are fundamentalists, and not all
fundamentalist Muslims are Islamists -- and figure out  which currents
we could support if we had our own social force.


Dinesh D'Souza agrees! Except he thinks the secular left is very
powerful:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/1/15/194522.shtml?s=lh

[...]

NewsMax: Doesn't your attempt to find common cause between
traditional Christians and traditional Muslims support the left's
argument that religious fundamentalists on both sides are the real
cause of this terror war?

D'Souza: Actually, it is the left that is allied with the radical
Muslims. The Islamic radicals supply the terror, and the left uses
that to demoralize the American people to persuade them to cut and
run from Iraq and from the Middle East. My point is that
conservatives should counter this by building alliances with the
traditional Muslims, who are the majority in the Islamic world.

Look, we don't support polygamy, the veil, or the patriarchal family,
but this is all standard fare in the traditional cultures of the
world, not just the Islamic world but much of Asia and Africa as
well. While traditional Muslims are conservative on social issues,
studies show that they are overwhelmingly pro-democracy. Many of them
will be more pro-American, and stay away from the bin Laden camp, if
they see us as permitting Muslims to live in Islamic societies and to
stand up for Muslim interests.

NewsMax: You note that many Muslims see the United Nations and other
international organizations as tools of America, pushing a secular
agenda even when these agencies often don't represent us. Why is that?

D'Souza: The United Nations, and many of the other international
agencies that have mostly been abandoned by the right, have been
taken over and staffed by leftist Americans and Europeans pushing a
secular, anti-religious agenda worldwide. When Muslims see groups
such as Amnesty International undermining traditional Muslim norms in
the name of human rights, and other groups filing lawsuits
everywhere to change social legislation, they see America doing this.
Many Muslims see that the secular left has been successful in
emasculating Christianity in the United States, and virtually
eliminating it in Europe, and believe that it's now trying to do the
same to Islam. In this perception, of course, they're completely right.

[...]


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Doyle Saylor

Greetings Economists,
Within the U.S. I think Yoshie points at scrutinizing the political
landscape with unfettered vision.

Secondly, the issue is an organizational one.  It's my view that
someone must combine broadly anchorage in those elements we see now;
immigrants, the old still radical identity groups, and use the new
media to organize.  So that a definite clear organizational structure
is being laid down.  Certainly I would expect that women be well
represented rather than as still seems to be the case mainly a male
interest in the left.  Therefore the analysis of what is important work
to ground the left in shifts toward what women do and like and
understand.

Sexuality, personal communication, appearance, friendship structure,
clever talking, balancing a complicated social life with work.  These
are usually neglected in the left, and I think that is because it is
considered not appropriate for work environments, but all the above
have a great deal in relation to strong connectedness in social
relations.  We don't have that sense in the left.  Religions to some
degree trade upon the family being a part of the religion therefore the
strong relationship is dragged into the arena, but the left could look
at strong relationships as about a mental work process and understand
what it would take to directly create strong relationships as a left
goal.
Doyle
On Jan 16, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Doug Henwood wrote:


On Jan 16, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:


It's not so much isolation as non-existence: the left is virtually
non-existent in the USA and the Middle East.


You may be exaggerating the non-existence, but in any case - what do
you propose to do about it? Just throw up your hands and join the
fundies?

Doug


Re: [PEN-L] Ah-nold

2007-01-16 Thread Dan Scanlan

On Jan 16, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Jim Devine wrote:


He wants to be President, but the constitution says no.


If Congress doesn't impeach the current President, the Constitution
is dead.

Dan


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 1/16/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Jan 16, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:

 The first thing to do is to understand different currents of Islam --
 e.g., not all Islamists are fundamentalists, and not all
 fundamentalist Muslims are Islamists -- and figure out  which currents
 we could support if we had our own social force.

Dinesh D'Souza agrees! Except he thinks the secular left is very
powerful:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/1/15/194522.shtml?s=lh


Where does Dinesh D'Souza agree with me?  That he thinks that
Washington needs to find some currents of Muslims it can ally with,
just as I think that leftists need to find some currents of Muslims
that we need to ally with? But we don't have the same currents in
mind.  Also, what's your alternative?  You think that there is no
current of Muslims with whom leftists should consider alliance?  That
sounds like a political non-starter, rather Islamophobic actually.

Besides, I don't see the United Nations as being taken over and
staffed by leftist Americans and Europeans pushing a secular,
anti-religious agenda worldwide.  The UN organ that really matters,
the UN Security Council, is not interested in secularism vs.
anti-secularism, or religion vs. anti-religion, but it's a place where
differences among great powers get ironed out, alas, usually in favor
of Washington's geopolitical agenda.

I believe that Muslims, like others, are in favor of democracy, but,
unlike D'Souza, I don't see any evidence that they will be
pro-American, as long as Washington supports the Israeli occupation
and the undemocratic pro-American regimes like Egypt, Jordan, and
Saudi Arabia and itself militarily occupies many lands of the
predominantly Islamic world.
--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


Re: [PEN-L] Ah-nold

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 1/16/07, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

He wants to be President, but the constitution says no.


That probably helps.  If he could run for president, he wouldn't be
able to work as much with Democrats as he appears to do now, for he
would have to mind the base of the national Republican Party.
--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


Re: [PEN-L] gas prices

2007-01-16 Thread Jim Devine

or maybe he shot himself in the face.

On 1/16/07, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Jan 16, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Jim Devine wrote:

 I notice that gasoline prices are _still_ mostly down since August. We
 still haven't seen the post-election spike that some theories predict.

Oil is down 4% today to under $51 a barrel. It averaged $59 in
November and $62 in December. Maybe Cheney's been distracted,
preparing his testimony for the Scooter Libby trial.

Doug




--
Jim Devine / Doubt is uncomfortable, but certainty is ridiculous. -- Voltaire.


Re: [PEN-L] Why did Saddam become expendable?

2007-01-16 Thread Peter Hollings
Wayne Madsden has the best answer I've seen to date:

January 15, 2007 -- WMR previously reported that the Bush regime wanted
Saddam Hussein hanged quickly before he could testify about his
knowledge about arms deals, including weapons of mass destruction
transfers, agreed to with the Reagan-Bush I administrations. Saddam also
was likely aware of the extent of secret Bush arms transfers to Iran in
1980 that were treasonously carried out against President Jimmy Carter's
administration. It is now reported that former Russian Foreign Minister
Yevgeny Primakov has a similar opinion. He said on Russian television in
Moscow that Saddam was executed in an unexpected way so he could not
have the last word and reveal compromising information on the
relationship between the United States and his former regime. Primakov
added that if Saddam had said everything, the current US president
would have been greatly embarrassed.

The execution of Saddam by Bush regime was an extreme form of witness
tampering. Saddam knew enough to embarrass George W. Bush, according to
former Russian Foreign Minister.

It is now apparent why Saddam was interested in passing to a Western
journalist incriminating documents on the Bush family he had his
intelligence services amass prior to the U.S. invasion. This editor
received the offer through a British interlocutor but declined for
safety reasons. However, if Saddam did manage to spirit this information
out of Iraq, it could still prove embarrassing to George H. W. Bush 
Sons.

Source:  http://waynemadsenreport.com/

Peter Hollings

-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rui
Correia
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:38 AM
To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU
Subject: [PEN-L] Why did Saddam become expendable?


Other US creations, offspring around the world have become embarassing
butchers - yet the US continues to cover up for them.

So, what was it about Saddam so so ticked off the Bushes

Rui


Re: [PEN-L] Ah-nold

2007-01-16 Thread Jim Devine

On 1/16/07, Dan Scanlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If Congress doesn't impeach the current President, the Constitution
is dead.


is the US constitution that good anyway? The Bill of Rights is great,
but the constitution?

--
Jim Devine / Doubt is uncomfortable, but certainty is ridiculous. -- Voltaire.


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Daniel Davies
I think this is quite dependent on a specifically theological definition of
fundamentalists.  Not all Islamists are particularly conservative
theologically - not surprising given that Islamism has its root in Egypt -
but they are all pretty conservative.  There are absolutely no Islamists who
are prepared to countenance homosexuality, for example.

best
dd


-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yoshie
Furuhashi


The first thing to do is to understand different currents of Islam --
e.g., not all Islamists are fundamentalists, and not all
fundamentalist Muslims are Islamists -- and figure out  which currents
we could support if we had our own social force.
--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 1/16/07, Daniel Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think this is quite dependent on a specifically theological definition of
fundamentalists.  Not all Islamists are particularly conservative
theologically - not surprising given that Islamism has its root in Egypt -
but they are all pretty conservative.  There are absolutely no Islamists who
are prepared to countenance homosexuality, for example.


I'd venture to say that Islamists in particular and Muslims in general
can change.  Socialists used not to countenance homosexuality, for
instance, and some of them still don't, if a recent report on CPN(M)'s
policy toward homosexuals is correct (I have yet to gather all
relevant facts on the matter, so I am agnostic about the accuracy of
the report).
--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman
During the Vietnam war, some devout Catholics were important allies, while 
others
were fervent supporters of the war.  I don't remember as many Protestants using
religion the way the Berrigan brothers did.

If somebody suggested making common cause with the Catholics at the time, I 
would not
know what to make of it.  I know far less about Islam than I do about 
Catholicism,
and I know very little about Catholicism.

How can we discuss making common cause with a group with whom we have not 
explored
what we might have in common?



--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
michaelperelman.wordpress.com


[PEN-L] Just Foreign Policy News, January 16, 2007

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Naiman

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secrecy was violated or that voters were intimidated into re-electing
Chavez. The 7 million votes constituted a 50-year record, in number
and percentage - 63 percent, the highest of 9 presidential elections
in Latin America last year. The Post description of the election was
ridiculous.

President Bush's address last week failed to move public opinion in
support of his plan to increase US troop levels in Iraq, USA Today
reports. More than 6 of 10 people back the idea of a non-binding
congressional resolution expressing opposition to Bush's plan to
commit additional troops. But those surveyed were split, 47%-50%, over
whether Congress should deny funding for the additional troops.

To pay for the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the US has used
its credit card, the Christian Science Monitor reports. The US is
spending about $10 billion a month on Iraq and Afghanistan. By the end
of this year, the total funds appropriated will be nearly $600 billion
– approaching the amount spent on the Vietnam or Korean wars, when
adjusted for inflation.

Two Navy men have established a Web site, AppealforRedress.org, that
enables active-duty, reserve and National Guard troops to appeal
directly to Congress to withdraw military personnel from Iraq, the
Washington Post reports. Monday the group held its coming-out news
conference, announcing more than 1,000 people have signed appeals. On
Tuesday, the pleas will be presented to Rep. Dennis Kucinich on
Capitol Hill.

Iran
Defense Secretary Gates said Monday Iran was acting in a very
negative way and the US was building up its forces to demonstrate its
resolve to remain in the Persian Gulf, the New York Times reports.
Gates, who endorsed resuming diplomatic contacts with Iran in 2004,
said Iran's behavior had worsened and resuming diplomatic relations
would be possible only when Iran was prepared to play a constructive
role.

The Iraqi government is moving to solidify relations with Iran, even
as the US turns up the rhetorical heat and bolsters its military
forces to confront Iran's influence in Iraq, the Los Angeles Times
reports. The US military is still holding five Iranians detained in a
raid on an Iranian office in northern Iraq last week. Iraqis, who have
echoed Iran's calls for the US to release the five men, say the
three-way standoff that has ensued reveals more about American
meddling in Iraqi affairs than about Iranian influence.

Diplomats in Vienna, where the International Atomic Energy Agency is
based, said Thursday that the enrichment program in Natanz had ground
to a halt, AP reports.

Iraq
The Kurdish makeup of two of the three Iraqi army brigades due to be
sent to Baghdad under President Bush's new strategic plan is drawing
concern from Iraqi and US experts, the Washington Post reports. Last
week a prominent member of the Iraqi Kurdish Coalition declared his
opposition to Kurds going into Baghdad. There are fears that a fight
like this, pitting Kurds against the Arabs, is bound to add an ethnic
touch to the conflict, he said.

Somalia
Somalia's transitional government shut three of the country's biggest
radio stations on Monday, the New York Times reports. The government
also closed the Mogadishu office of Al Jazeera. Some accused the
government of being hypocritical because officials had criticized the
Islamists 

Re: [PEN-L] Ah-nold

2007-01-16 Thread Shane Mage

Jim Devine wrote:


is the US constitution that good anyway? The Bill of Rights is great,
but the constitution?


The Bill of Rights is an integral part of the constitution, more so than any
or all of the other amendments, because the constitution would never have
been ratified without a firm commitment to adopt it.  Of course, the
courts have always sought every possible way to disregard it.  So, too,
is that magnificent Preamble (whose recitation at the start of every
school day a real republic would require, rather than a
monarchistical pledge
of allegiance to the Flag.) Plato, it should be emphasized, insisted
(in the *Nomoi*) that by far the most important part of every law
is its preamble.

Shane Mage

This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is
and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out
in measures.

Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 30


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Marvin Gandall

Yoshie wrote:


On 1/15/07, Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That said, if the left and the Islamists were equally vying for the
allegiance of the masses in their own countries, they'd be at each
other's
throats - as in Palestine, for example.


Fatah is not the left, however.


Fatah - or rather, the PLO, which it dominates - still represents the
Palestinian left, such as it is, against Hamas and the rest of the Islamist
movement, which was set up in opposition to it. Fatah has become corrupted,
however, and like Sinn Fein in Ireland, has given up the armed struggle and
is groping for a settlement with the Israelis from a position of weakness.

No other left of any consequence exists in Palestine or elsewhere in the
Middle East. My point, in response to yours, was that if there were a strong
left, it would very likely at some stage come into violent conflict with the
Islamists, in the same way the alliances between the Kuomintang and the CP
and the Iranian left and the militant Islamists disintegrated. While the
Islamists deserve support against US-Israeli aggression and while it's
understandable that small groups of leftists in that part of the world might
want to tactically ally with the Islamists in order to strengthen their
influence within the national movements, this point shouldn't be overlooked
and the differences which seperate the left from the Islamists obscured, as
I think you're inclined to do in pursuit of these aims.

In reply to Daniel Davies, you note that that Islamists in particular and
Muslims in general can change, which is of course true, but the change you
anticipate would almost always be, almost always is, in the direction of
liberalism - analogous to the development of social democracy within the
early socialist movement - and it presupposes a reduction in the level of
national and social conflict. I'm referring to a situation in which social
tensions are acute and radical Marxists and radical Islamists are competing
for the leadership of the mass movement. In that case, I think it is an
illusion to believe there would be the same possibility of reconciliation
between these contending forces as could be expected between progressive
socialists and progressive Islamists who stray from their original
convictions and move to the political centre in a less polarized
environment. This isn't intended as a criticism of such an evolution,
incidentally, so much as it is a description of the relationship which
exists between changes in social conditions and corresponding changes in
political outlook.


Re: [PEN-L] Ah-nold

2007-01-16 Thread Mark Lause
Dan Scanlan wrote, If Congress doesn't impeach the current President, the
Constitution is dead.

Setting aside the sticky question of constitutionalism, the two-party system
is certainly on life support.

But I don't see how it matters whether Bush is impeached.  The Democrats not
only let him do absolutely anything he wanted before, they actively sold the
Bush mission of invasion and occupation...and happily denounced in
language questioning our right to express any opinion contrary to that they
shared with Dubya.  Their current posturing is hypocritical and probably
meaningless.

They could, of course, try to investigate or impeach Bush, but what would
that mean?

ML


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 1/16/07, Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fatah is not the left, however.

Fatah - or rather, the PLO, which it dominates - still represents the
Palestinian left, such as it is, against Hamas and the rest of the Islamist
movement, which was set up in opposition to it.


So, that means Tel Aviv and Washington are supporting the left against
Hamas, in your view?  I very much doubt that's the way the
Palestinians see it.


In reply to Daniel Davies, you note that that Islamists in
particular and Muslims in general can change, which is
of course true, but the change you anticipate would almost
always be, almost always is, in the direction of liberalism -
analogous to the development of social democracy within the
early socialist movement - and it presupposes a reduction in the level of
national and social conflict.


Adoption and acceptance of homosexuality as an identity under
capitalism depends on the degrees of economic development,
urbanization, an increase in the proportion of people living as
singles, and so on more than anything else.  So, whether adoption and
acceptance of homosexual identity will grow in the predominantly
Islamic world (the Middle East, parts of Africa, and parts of Asia)
and whether adoption and acceptance of it will be done under
liberalism both depend on whether the predominantly Islamic world will
develop capitalistically to approximate the development of the rich
nations.
--
Yoshie
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http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


[PEN-L] Nader on class war

2007-01-16 Thread Dan Scanlan

CounterPunch - January 16, 2007
http://counterpunch.org/nader01152007.html


The Class War's New Map

Billionaires Head for the Closet

by Ralph Nader

The boiling, surging, churning and corporatizing economy of the United
States is racing far ahead of its being understood by political
economists, economists, politicians and the polis itself. Tidbits from
the past week add up to this view, to wit:

-The giant, shut-down Bethlehem steel plant in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
will soon become a $600 million casino and hotel complex. With tens of
millions of Americans lacking the adequate necessities of food, fuel,
shelter, health care and a sustaining job, this project is part of a 25
year trend by the economy, moving away from necessities and over to
wants and whims. Among the fastest growing businesses for three decades
in America are theme parks, gambling casinos and prisons.

-Our Constitution launched we the people to establish justice,
promote the general welfare and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
ourselves. We're losing ground year after year on all three accounts.
Yet to what does Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. devote his entire
annual report on the federal judiciary this January 1, 2007? He called
for a pay raise for judges, calling the current pay ranging from
$165,200 to $212,000 (with a great retirement plan) a constitutional
crisis.

- General Motor has introduced yet another prototype electric
car-called the Chevrolet Voltto distract attention from its ongoing
engine stagnation and provide a little cover for its gas guzzling muscle
cars displayed at the Detroit Auto Show. This procrastinatory tactic by
GM has been going on since the 1939 New York World's Fair to keep people
looking far into the amorphous future so as to not focus on the dismal
today year after year while gasoline prices sky rocket and oil imports
swell. We're still waiting for some of GM's engineering prototypes from
1939 to hit the road in the 21^st century.

- Just as there are stirrings behind more shareholder rights over the
companies they own and more disclosure by management of large
corporations relating to executive pay and accounting information, the
rapid rise of huge pools of capital controlled by private equity firms
and Hedge Funds are buying larger and larger public companies and taking
them out of the regulatory arenas into secrecy.

Corporate morphing to escape public accountability has been going on for
a long time. Note the coal corporations digging deep under residential
streets in Pennsylvania and other neighboring states decades ago. As the
homes began to cave in (this is called 'subsidence'), the coal companies
disappeared by collapsing themselves only to be succeeded by their next
of (corporate) kin.

Today, this corporate morphing is far more ranging and far larger in the
economy, drawing trillions of dollars from pension funds and
institutional investor firms which themselves are largely closed off
from workers and small investors whose money they shuffle around.
Corporate attorneys are super-experts in arranging ways for corporate
capital to escape not just the tax laws of the U.S. but also the public
regulatory frameworks of the Securities and Exchange Commission and
other public law and order entities.

Independent and academic corporate analysts have barely begun to figure
out the consequences of this seismic shift of capital structures.

- Private Firms Lure C.E.O.’s With Top Pay was the headline in the
January 8 edition of the New York Times. The subtitle was astonishingly
worded as Less Lavish Packages at Public Companies. The reporters go
on to say, in essence, that if you think that Home Depot's departed
C.E.O., Robert L. Nardelli's $200 million plus take home pay package was
a lot, you haven't seen what's happening behind the curtains at the
large private equity firms buying up ever bigger public companies.
Public company chieftains are deciding that they no longer want to be
judged by their shareholders and regulators, and are going to work for
businesses owned by private equity, write the authors.

One such migrant executive, Henry Silverman, went from big riches
running the conglomerate Cendant, to making $135 million just from
selling one piece of Cendant, Realogy, to a private equity firm. There
is no reason to be a public company anymore, said this happy corporate
prophet.

Now go to the other side of the tracks. In the last quarter century the
value of the U.S. corporations has risen 12-fold, according to the Wall
Street Journal. C.E.O. pay has skyrocketed similarly. But workers today,
on average, are still making less, in inflation adjusted dollars, than
workers made in 1973 -- the high point of worker wages!

Citing data from the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern
University, New York Times' columnist, Bob Herbert, reports that between
2000 and 2006 the combined real annual earnings of 93 million American
workers rose by $15.4 billion. That rise is less than half of 

[PEN-L] MOre Blood for oil in Somalia

2007-01-16 Thread ken hanly
More Blood for Oil

By Carl Bloice

01/16/07 Black Commentator -- -- Forget about all
that stuff about Ethiopia having a 'tacit' o.k. from
Washington to invade Somalia. The decision was made at
the White House and the attack had military support
from the Pentagon. The governments are too much in
sync and the Ethiopians too dependent on the U.S. to
think otherwise.

And, it didn't just suddenly happen. Ethiopian troops,
trained and equipped by the U.S. began infiltrating
into Somali territory last summer as part of a plan
that began to evolve the previous June when the Union
of Islamic Courts (UIC) took control of the
government. In November, the head of the U.S. Central
Command, General John Abizaid (until last week he ran
the U.S. military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq)
was in Addis Ababa. After that, Ghanaian journalist
Cameron Duodu has written, Ethiopia 'moved from
proving the Somali government with 'military advice'
to open armed intervention.'

And not without help. U.S Supplied satellite
surveillance data aided in the bombardment of the
Somali capital, Mogadishu and pinpointing the location
of UIC forces resulting, in the words of New York
Times reporter Jeffrey Gettleman, in 'a string of
back-to- back military loses in which more than 1,000
fighters, mostly teenage boys, were quickly mowed down
by the better-trained and equipped Ethiopian-backed
forces.'

As with the U.S. invasion of Iraq, the immediate
question is why was this proxy attack undertaken, in
clear violation of international law and the UN
Charter? And again, there is the official line, the
excuse and the underlying impetus. The official line
from Addis Ababa is that it was a defensive act in the
face of a threat of attack from Somalia. There's
nothing to support the claim and a lot of evidence to
the contrary. As far as the Bush Administration is
concerned, it was a chance to strike back at
'Islamists' as part of the on-going 'war on terror.'
For progressive observers in the region and much of
the media outside the U.S., the conflict smells of
petroleum.

'As with Iraq in 2003, the United States has cast this
as a war to curtail terrorism, but its real goal is to
obtain a direct foothold in a highly strategic region
by establishing a client regime there.,' wrote Salim
Lone, spokesperson for the United Nation mission in
Iraq in 2003, and now a columnist for The Daily Nation
in Kenya. 'The Horn of Africa is newly oil-rich, and
lies just miles from Saudi Arabia, overlooking the
daily passage of large numbers of oil tankers and
warships through the Red Sea.'

In a television interview broadcast on the day of the
full-fledged Ethiopian assault, Marine General James
Jones (who ironically, like Abizaid, recently lost his
position), then-Nato's military commander and head of
the US military's European army, expressed his concern
that the size of the U.S. army in Europe had 'perhaps
gone too low.' Jones went on to tell the CSpan
interviewer the US needed troops in Europe partly so
that they could be quickly deployed in trouble-spots
in Africa and elsewhere.

'I think the emergence of Africa as a strategic
reality is inevitable and we're going to need
forward-based troops, special operations, marines,
soldiers, airmen and sailors to be in the right
proportion,' said Jones.

'Pentagon to train sharper eye on Africa,' read the
headline over a January 5 report by Richard Whittle in
the Christian Science Monitor. 'Strife, oil, and Al
Qaeda are leading the US to create a new Africa
Command.'

'Africa, long beset by war, famine, disease, and
ethnic tensions, has generally taken a backseat in
Pentagon planning - but US officials say that is about
to change,' wrote Whittle, who went on to report that
one of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's last
acts before being dismissed from that position was to
convince President Bush to create a new Africa
military Africa command, something the White House is
expected to announce later this year. The creation of
the new body, he quoted one expert as saying, reflects
the Administration concern about 'Al Qaeda's known
presence in Africa,' China's developing relations with
the continent with regards to oil supplies and the
fact that 'Islamists took over Somalia last June and
ruled until this week, when Ethiopian troops drove
them out of power.'

Currently, the US gets about 10 percent of its oil
from Africa, but, the Monitor story said but 'some
experts say it may need to rely on the continent for
as much as 25 percent by 2010.' Reportedly, nearly
two-thirds of Somalia's oil fields were allocated to
the U.S. oil companies Conoco, Amoco, Chevron and
Phillips before Somalia's pro-U.S. President Mohamed
Siad Barre was overthrown in January, 1991.

Lt. Cmdr. Joe Carpenter, a Pentagon spokesman, said
the division for African military operations causes
some difficulty in trying to ... execute a more
streamlined and comprehensive strategy when it comes
to Africa. According to the plan, the Central Command

Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Marvin Gandall

Yoshie wrote:


On 1/16/07, Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Fatah - or rather, the PLO, which it dominates - still represents the
Palestinian left, such as it is, against Hamas and the rest of the
Islamist
movement, which was set up in opposition to it.


So, that means Tel Aviv and Washington are supporting the left against
Hamas, in your view?  I very much doubt that's the way the
Palestinians see it.

===
Depends which Palestinians, I suppose. The ones who would like to see more
Western investment, an end to the state of war with Israel, a Western-style
judiciary and political system, and who look to European social democrats as
political allies would still see Fatah as representing their aspirations -
even while acknowledging that that the party is corrupt and badly in need of
reform - and of being to the left of Hamas. There's probably a sizeable
Palestinian constituency of this sort, which extends beyond the nascent
bourgeosie, as there was in the USSR and Eastern Europe, which harbours the
same illusions about the benefits of being a normal society in the Western
orbit. The more devout Moslems who support Hamas because of its Islamic
ideology would also agree that Fatah is on the political left, with all of
the negative connotations whichthat implies for them, including that its
supporters are being seduced by the material comfort and decadent culture of
the West.

But I don't know if the Palestinians are still as ideological as they once
were. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that many are politically worn out
and distinguish between Hamas and Fatah less in relation to their political
programs than in their potential to relieve the desperate living conditions
in the occupied territories. If despair and exhaustion have overtaken
struggle and steadfastness as the predominant political mood, then Fatah
will have an advantage, even if the West supports it - and perhaps even
because the West supports it. I don't know how reliable it is, but Ulhas on
the LBO list today posted a Reuters report of a survey of Palestinian
opinion showing that Fatah would decisively defeat Hamas if new elections
were held, as Abbas is threatening to do. The punishing sanctions will have
then accomplished what they were designed to do.

Incidentally, while Marxists and anarchists oppose Tel Aviv and Washington,
left liberals and social democrats, who are much more numerous, generally do
not. But you know that, so it is a question of what we mean when we we talk
of the left and whether the latter are included in discussing the
political character of parties such as Fatah.


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 1/16/07, Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yoshie wrote:

 On 1/16/07, Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fatah - or rather, the PLO, which it dominates - still represents the
 Palestinian left, such as it is, against Hamas and the rest of the
 Islamist
 movement, which was set up in opposition to it.

 So, that means Tel Aviv and Washington are supporting the left against
 Hamas, in your view?  I very much doubt that's the way the
 Palestinians see it.
===
Depends which Palestinians, I suppose. The ones who would like to see more
Western investment, an end to the state of war with Israel, a Western-style
judiciary and political system, and who look to European social democrats as
political allies would still see Fatah as representing their aspirations -
even while acknowledging that that the party is corrupt and badly in need of
reform - and of being to the left of Hamas. There's probably a sizeable
Palestinian constituency of this sort, which extends beyond the nascent
bourgeosie, as there was in the USSR and Eastern Europe, which harbours the
same illusions about the benefits of being a normal society in the Western
orbit. The more devout Moslems who support Hamas because of its Islamic
ideology would also agree that Fatah is on the political left, with all of
the negative connotations whichthat implies for them, including that its
supporters are being seduced by the material comfort and decadent culture of
the West.


But have you found any actually-existing Palestinian, pro-Western or
anti-Western, secular or religious, who speaks of Fatah as the left
and Hamas as the right (or whatever)?  The idea of Fatah = the left
seems to me to be your own creation.


But I don't know if the Palestinians are still as ideological as they once
were.


Terms such as left and right matter probably only to people who still
belong to such currents as the PFLP and the Palestinian People's
Party, but they don't speak of Fatah as the left.


It wouldn't surprise me to learn that many are politically worn out
and distinguish between Hamas and Fatah less in relation to their political
programs than in their potential to relieve the desperate living conditions
in the occupied territories.


The problem that most Palestinians think of as most urgent is the
Israeli occupation, and the distinctions among political forces they
make are probably based, first and foremost, on different relations
they have to the Israeli occupation.


If despair and exhaustion have overtaken
struggle and steadfastness as the predominant political mood, then Fatah
will have an advantage, even if the West supports it - and perhaps even
because the West supports it. I don't know how reliable it is, but Ulhas on
the LBO list today posted a Reuters report of a survey of Palestinian
opinion showing that Fatah would decisively defeat Hamas if new elections
were held, as Abbas is threatening to do. The punishing sanctions will have
then accomplished what they were designed to do.


If they vote against Hamas and for Fatah, they will do so for the same
reason that the Nicaraguans voted against the Sandinistas and for
Violeta Chamorro and UNO in 1990.  That doesn't make Fatah the left in
Palestine any more than it did Chamorro and UNO the left in Nicaragua.

--
Yoshie
http://montages.blogspot.com/
http://mrzine.org
http://monthlyreview.org/


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Marvin Gandall

Yoshie wrote:


But have you found any actually-existing Palestinian, pro-Western or
anti-Western, secular or religious, who speaks of Fatah as the left
and Hamas as the right (or whatever)?  The idea of Fatah = the left
seems to me to be your own creation...Terms such as left and right matter
probably only to people who still
belong to such currents as the PFLP and the Palestinian People's
Party, but they don't speak of Fatah as the left...The problem that most
Palestinians think of as most urgent is the
Israeli occupation, and the distinctions among political forces they
make are probably based, first and foremost, on different relations
they have to the Israeli occupation...If they vote against Hamas and for
Fatah, they will do so for the same
reason that the Nicaraguans voted against the Sandinistas and for
Violeta Chamorro and UNO in 1990.  That doesn't make Fatah the left in
Palestine any more than it did Chamorro and UNO the left in Nicaragua.


Yoshie was replying to my comments as follows:


But I don't know if the Palestinians are still as ideological as they
once
were...It wouldn't surprise me to learn that many are politically worn
out
and distinguish between Hamas and Fatah less in relation to their
political
programs than in their potential to relieve the desperate living
conditions
in the occupied territories...If despair and exhaustion have overtaken
struggle and steadfastness as the predominant political mood, then Fatah
will have an advantage, even if the West supports it - and perhaps even
because the West supports it. I don't know how reliable it is, but Ulhas
on
the LBO list today posted a Reuters report of a survey of Palestinian
opinion showing that Fatah would decisively defeat Hamas if new elections
were held, as Abbas is threatening to do. The punishing sanctions will
have
then accomplished what they were designed to do.


I don't know what's being disputed here. I'm not championing Fatah as a
party of the left any more than I would the contemporary ANC or the
Sandinistas, although, unlike yourself, I expect the supporters of these
parties would continue to define them that way, rightly or wrongly, in
relation to their political opponents. In itself, that has little
significance for me, and I don't know why it has for you. On the essential
point - that the Palestinians judge the parties in relation to the
occupation and its effects and not ideologically - we're in agreement, as is
evident from my remarks above. I happen to think this may now favour Fatah
rather than Hamas, but nowhere have I indicated this has something to do
with whether Fatah is on the left or not. It has everything to do with the
sanctions. But you can have the last word.


Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

On 1/16/07, Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't know what's being disputed here. I'm not championing Fatah as a
party of the left any more than I would the contemporary ANC or the
Sandinistas


To my knowledge, the ANC before the fall of Apartheid and the
Sandinistas while their revolution lasted never went down to the low
of Fatah.  Can an organization that is supposed to be opposed to the
Israeli occupation take Tel Aviv's and Washington's support and
subvert the elected leadership of their own people and be still
considered the left?  If so, what does the left mean?  It really
means nothing, and we might as well give up meaningless terms like
that.

--
Yoshie
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http://monthlyreview.org/


[PEN-L] Oil Falls to 19-Month Low on Saudi Rejection of More OPEC Cuts

2007-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/37a6ccf8-a557-11db-a4e0-779e2340.html
Oil falls sharply after Saudi comments
By Chris Flood
Published: January 16 2007 12:26 | Last updated: January 16 2007 18:06

US crude fell sharply on Tuesday after Saudi Arabia poured cold water
on the prospect of an immediate production cut by the Organisation of
the Petroleum Exporting Countries in response to recent price
weakness.

Nymex February West Texas Intermediate dropped $1.50 to $51.48 a
barrel as US traders returned to the floor following the Martin Luther
King holiday on Monday. US crude sank to a session low of $51.15, the
lowest level since late May 2005.

ICE February Brent, which expired yesterday, fell 82 cents to $52.30 a
barrel while the March contract sank $1.30 to $52.15.

Ali al-Naimi, Saudi Arabia's oil minister, said the measures already
taken by Opec were working well as oil stocks had fallen and the
market was moving closer to balance.

The comments from the cartel's most senior member come after pressure
from other countries for more immediate action. On Monday, Venezuela
proposed an emergency Opec meeting, saying global markets were
oversupplied by up to 1m barrels a day.

It remains unclear just how much crude Opec has removed from the
market as the cartel has agreed to reduce production by a total of
1.7m b/d but the second part of the cut is not due to start until
February.

Traders said hedge funds and short-term momentum players would attempt
to drag crude towards the $50 level, trying to test Opec's
determination to defend prices at a higher level.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081sid=ap9i3C_FTkR4refer=australia
Oil Falls to 19-Month Low on Saudi Rejection of More OPEC Cuts
By Mark Shenk

Jan. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil in New York plunged to the lowest in
more than 19 months after Saudi Arabia's oil minister rejected calls
for more production cuts.

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries must wait to assess
the effect of supply curbs that start Feb. 1, the minister, Ali
al-Naimi, told reporters in New Delhi. Prices have plunged 16 percent
this year, leading Venezuela and Algeria to call for OPEC to restrain
output.

``The Saudis don't see the need to take any immediate action, which
just reinforces the bearish sentiment in the market,'' said Kyle
Cooper, director of research at IAF Advisors in Houston. ``If the
Saudis don't want OPEC to make further cuts it won't happen.''

Crude oil for February delivery fell $1.78, or 3.4 percent, to $51.21
a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, the lowest close since
May 26, 2005. Futures touched $50.53, the lowest intraday price since
May 25, 2005. Prices are down 23 percent from a year ago. There was no
floor trading in New York yesterday because of the Martin Luther King
Jr. holiday.

Prices are down 35 percent from the record of $78.40 a barrel reached
on July 14. The decline has accelerated during the past month because
mild weather in the U.S. and Europe has curbed consumption of heating
fuels.

Colder Weather

Below-normal temperatures will cover most of the U.S. from Jan. 21
through Jan. 25, the National Weather Service said yesterday. The
Northeast, which accounts for 80 percent of the nation's heating-oil
use, will be among the regions with colder weather.

Heating oil for February delivery fell 2.33 cents, or 1.6 percent, to
$1.4803 a gallon in New York, the lowest close since May 31, 2005.

``Heating oil is a crude-oil product so you expect them to move in the
same direction,'' said Eric Wittenauer, an energy analyst at A.G.
Edwards  Sons Inc. in St. Louis. ``There's been a strong move in
crude, and heating oil is following, even though it's cold. Also,
because of the warm weather we've had there are substantial
heating-oil stockpiles along the East Coast.''

Heating-oil inventories on the East Coast in the week ended Jan. 5
were 29 percent higher than a year earlier, an Energy Department
report showed last week. A report from the department on Jan. 18 is
expected to show that U.S. inventories of gasoline and distillate
fuel, a category that includes heating oil and diesel, rose last week,
a Bloomberg survey showed.

OPEC Agreements

OPEC, which produces about 40 percent of the world's oil, agreed last
month in Abuja, Nigeria, to cut production by 500,000 barrels a day
beginning Feb. 1. This comes on top of an agreement in Doha, Qatar, to
cut output by 1.2 million barrels a day starting Nov. 1, 2006.

``There is actually no real need now'' for an extra output cut,
al-Naimi told reporters at New Delhi's airport. ``All the fundamentals
are significantly better than they were in Doha, and I believe in a
very short time it is going to improve.''

Almost 100 million barrels were removed from the global oil market in
the fourth quarter due to OPEC's Nov. 1 production cut, al-Naimi said
today. That ``put the market closer to balance,'' he said.

``It's likely that the Saudis' major concern was high inventories and
they now feel 

Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread soula avramidis
there isn't a single veil that is a misconception. at the turn of the century 
nearly every rural community had its folkloric head dress and in rural 
communities there was no separation of the sexes because of the shallow 
division of labour. 
the present veil is the urban veil. if you look at egyptian films and egyptian 
society up 1990 you will see that the veil was almost non existent in the 
cities. the present, 1900 onwards, veil is homogeneous social symbol. the type 
and the shape of it indicate political allegiance.


 

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Re: [PEN-L] Socialism and Islam

2007-01-16 Thread soula avramidis
Lenin to be inexact says something to the effect that there are leftists only 
by name. in Palestine as well apart from the pflp which the biggest leftist 
group, small factions of the left were elitist and getting support from Arafat. 
in fact Arafat was using these leftists on the negotiating so as to make appear 
that the left carries the sell out of paletinain rights of return and other 
paraphernalia of this question. 
 
the genuine left is hated by both fatah and hammas more than they hate one 
another. does this complicate life a bit more.


 

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2007-01-16 Thread soula avramidis
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