Re: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/10/msg2399796.html
First, in the notes comes this: 'this report is from an automated smoke testing program and was not reviewed by a human for accuracy'. Thus, the you is completely inappropriate. The bot may have not installed it, but then again, it may not had to, because *a* module called Template may have already been installed. Second, his setup does show a Template module. If you specifically require a version of Template::Toolkit, you should specifically ask for that by a different name, by version or by some other method. Template is a generic name used by many different systems. See http://tinyurl.com/4r73df for a few examples. Third, there was no reason to cc the perl-qa mailing list. None at all. This list is for discussion of testing methods and applications, not for chastising the result of an automated smokebot. Fourth, frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if your demand was canned. I know personally I would have done so - it's rude, condescending and arrogant. Gabor's already fixed one of your messages - http://tinyurl.com/44rwzg - so I know it's possible. Nobody owes you anything. Stop thinking they do. Thanks, -Pete K On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! In http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/10/msg2399796.htmlit seems that you didn't install the Template.pm module and as a result HTML-Latemp-NavLinks-GenHtml is failing. I specifically require a version of it, but it wasn't made available for it. Please fix your CPAN smooking setup. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Parody on The Fountainhead - http://xrl.us/bjria Shlomi, so what are you working on? Working on a new wiki about unit testing fortunes in freecell? -- Ran Eilam
Re: Generic test database
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:52:42AM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: There's plenty of modules which need a database, and they all have to be configured differently and they're always a PITA when you first install and each and every time they upgrade. User setup can be dealt with by making Test::Database a build dependency. As part of Test::Database's install process it walks the user through the configuration process. Once it's done, it writes out a config file and then it's done for good. These are the paragraphs I need to start the DESCRIPTION section. :-) -- Philippe Bruhat (BooK) For every winner, there must be one or more losers. (Moral to the Sage story in Groo #111 (Epic))
Re: Generic test database
David Cantrell writes: Smylers wrote: It sounds scary to me. If I'm just installing a Perl module from Cpan on a newly installed OS, which happens to still have default DB connection permissions, I wouldn't expect the module's tests to start making use of the DB without asking. Of course, a module author can do that already, Indeed (and she could also do the other things I mentioned, such as grabbing images or e-mail addresses). But I don't thing we should encourage such things as being a good practice. Further, if the module install fails the database may be left behind. Having a well-known module specifically for creating, accessing, and tearing down the test database, written carefully and maintained, instead of people just hacking up their own nasty solutions to the problem whenever they need it - this will *reduce* the chances of that happening. End result - less cruft left on your system *and* better testing for databasey modules. Yes, that's good. Connecting using environment variables which the user (or tester) has explicitly set up for the purpose is also good. I like this proposal overall, and the current plan for implementing it -- it was only the 'let's grub around on the system and see if the user happens to have left a DBMS unprotected that we can use' but which scared me. Simon
Test::Database 0.01
Hi, I've just put Test::Database 0.01 on PAUSE. The current version is working with the easy stuff (DBD::CSV, DBD::SQLite, DBD::DBM), but most of the interface is ready for databases that need more than a file or a directory. I'll work on the Test::Database::Driver::mysql for the next release. In the meantime, I'm interested in all comments. -- Philippe Bruhat (BooK) The man who does not know his own powers is the least powerful of all. (Moral from Groo The Wanderer #113 (Epic))
Re: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/10/msg2399796.html
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Pete Krawczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Third, there was no reason to cc the perl-qa mailing list. None at all. This list is for discussion of testing methods and applications, not for chastising the result of an automated smokebot. Pete makes a good point. Complaints about automated smokebots should be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which many of the CPAN Testers subscribe to and where such complaints are considered on-topic. -- David
