Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
These TAP extension proposals and designs for parsers and questions for details about the TAP grammar... they should all go into the Wiki. But the Perl QA Wiki sucks. Its slow. Its spammed. UseModWiki sucks. And I don't have the time to maintain it. We need a new wiki. schwern.org is too anemic to run anything serious (64 megs of RAM, woo!). We need a volunteer with server space to setup and maintain the Perl QA Wiki. I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which Wikipedia uses). It seems the best known, best of breed with the least fuss. Please contact me if you would like to do this.
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These TAP extension proposals and designs for parsers and questions for details about the TAP grammar... they should all go into the Wiki. But the Perl QA Wiki sucks. Its slow. Its spammed. UseModWiki sucks. And I don't have the time to maintain it. We need a new wiki. schwern.org is too anemic to run anything serious (64 megs of RAM, woo!). We need a volunteer with server space to setup and maintain the Perl QA Wiki. I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which Wikipedia uses). It seems the best known, best of breed with the least fuss. Please contact me if you would like to do this. I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up. Cheers, Tyler
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
On Jul 5, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: We need a new wiki. schwern.org is too anemic to run anything serious (64 megs of RAM, woo!). We need a volunteer with server space to setup and maintain the Perl QA Wiki. I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which Wikipedia uses). It seems the best known, best of breed with the least fuss. I'm working on making Socialtext open source right now. I plan to put up a wiki based on it very soon. If you can wait a few days, I'll have something up at rakudo.org. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up. You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worry about getting a proper domain/uri for it later.
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up. You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worry about getting a proper domain/uri for it later. Done! http://qa.yi.org/ - Tyler
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which Wikipedia uses). I'm working on making Socialtext open source right now. I plan to put up a wiki based on it very soon. This sounds like the best idea. The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is bad...), but doesn't it send some sort of negative message when Perl QA doesn't use a Perl-based Wiki? I know Rails gets criticized for running their site on PHP... you'd think they'd just rename it to index.rhtml or whatever :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
On 7/5/06, Jonathan T. Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is bad...), but doesn't it send some sort of negative message when Perl QA doesn't use a Perl-based Wiki? Do I worry that qa.perl.org is running Apache? That's not written in Perl. I'm sending mail via GMail, you're using Thunderbird. Not Perl. This mailing list is run with ezmlm on qmail. They're not written in Perl. What message are we sending using all this non-Perl software? That we use the best tool for the job, not the one with the best political connections. That we're focused on QA and not in the business of maintaining MTAs, MUAs, web servers, mailing lists or wikis. If it bothers you that we're not using a Perl-based wiki, improve the Perl wikis. Or think less provincially, its ok to use more than one language. Or don't let it bother you. Honestly, it could be written in COBOL for all I care. Its well written, it works well and, thanks to Tyler MacDonald, it works now.
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up. You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worry about getting a proper domain/uri for it later. Done! http://qa.yi.org/ Thanks! Could you switch that to perl-qa.yi.org? Just to make it clear this isn't yi.org's QA department.
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worry about getting a proper domain/uri for it later. Done! http://qa.yi.org/ Thanks! Could you switch that to perl-qa.yi.org? Just to make it clear this isn't yi.org's QA department. yi.org's QA department... I almost snorted me tea out of my nose when I read that. ;-) OK, I've set perl-qa.yi.org to point there. I figured once it was ready for production you'd point a more official perly URL at it. (If/when you want to do that, please let me know so I can update apache etc...) Cheers, Tyler
Re: Volunteer wanted: We need a new wiki.
Michael G Schwern wrote: On 7/5/06, Jonathan T. Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is bad...), but doesn't it send some sort of negative message when Perl QA doesn't use a Perl-based Wiki? Do I worry that qa.perl.org is running Apache? That's not written in Perl. I'm sending mail via GMail, you're using Thunderbird. Not Perl. This mailing list is run with ezmlm on qmail. They're not written in Perl. What message are we sending using all this non-Perl software? That we use the best tool for the job, not the one with the best political connections. That we're focused on QA and not in the business of maintaining MTAs, MUAs, web servers, mailing lists or wikis. If it bothers you that we're not using a Perl-based wiki, improve the Perl wikis. Or think less provincially, its ok to use more than one language. Or don't let it bother you. Honestly, it could be written in COBOL for all I care. Its well written, it works well and, thanks to Tyler MacDonald, it works now. Thank you for those sensible words. This type discussion happens way too often. There have been several threads lately on wikis. The perl6-user group had a long one; and someone has even offered a bounty for a perl 6 based wiki. Meanwhile they have set up on http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6. The maintainers of that site, Australia and New Zealand PM, have made it available to other perl projects as well. A request for a decent central perl wiki was also requested on the advocacy list where perl.net.au was again mentioned and made available, and Ask mentioned setting a SocialText based wiki for perl: When Socialtext releases their beta I'm planning to play with it and likely setup an instance for the perl community (FWIW). I don't know much about SocialText. Is there a converter, so that if you put something up temporarily in MediaWiki, it can later be converted and moved to SocialText? Randy.
