Re: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/10/msg2399796.html
First, in the notes comes this: 'this report is from an automated smoke testing program and was not reviewed by a human for accuracy'. Thus, the "you" is completely inappropriate. The bot may have not installed it, but then again, it may not had to, because *a* module called Template may have already been installed. Second, his setup does show a Template module. If you "specifically require a version of" Template::Toolkit, you should specifically ask for that by a different name, by version or by some other method. Template is a generic name used by many different systems. See http://tinyurl.com/4r73df for a few examples. Third, there was no reason to cc the perl-qa mailing list. None at all. This list is for discussion of testing methods and applications, not for chastising the result of an automated smokebot. Fourth, frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if your demand was canned. I know personally I would have done so - it's rude, condescending and arrogant. Gabor's already fixed one of your messages - http://tinyurl.com/44rwzg - so I know it's possible. Nobody owes you anything. Stop thinking they do. Thanks, -Pete K On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > In > http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/10/msg2399796.htmlit > seems that you didn't install the Template.pm module and as a result > HTML-Latemp-NavLinks-GenHtml is failing. I specifically require a version > of > it, but it wasn't made available for it. > > Please fix your CPAN smooking setup. > > Regards, > >Shlomi Fish > > - > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > Parody on "The Fountainhead" - http://xrl.us/bjria > > Shlomi, so what are you working on? Working on a new wiki about unit > testing > fortunes in freecell? -- Ran Eilam >
Re: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/10/msg2399796.html
First, in the notes comes this: 'this report is from an automated smoke testing program and was not reviewed by a human for accuracy'. Thus, the "you" is completely inappropriate. The bot may have not installed it, but then again, it may not had to, because *a* module called Template may have already been installed. Second, his setup does show a Template module. If you "specifically require a version of" Template::Toolkit, you should specifically ask for that by a different name, by version or by some other method. Template is a generic name used by many different systems. See http://tinyurl.com/4r73df for a few examples. Third, there was no reason to cc the perl-qa mailing list. None at all. This list is for discussion of testing methods and applications, not for chastising the result of an automated smokebot. Fourth, frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if your demand was canned. I know personally I would have done so - it's rude, condescending and arrogant. Gabor's already fixed one of your messages - http://tinyurl.com/44rwzg - so I know it's possible. Nobody owes you anything. Stop thinking they do. Thanks, -Pete K On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > In > http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/10/msg2399796.htmlit > seems that you didn't install the Template.pm module and as a result > HTML-Latemp-NavLinks-GenHtml is failing. I specifically require a version > of > it, but it wasn't made available for it. > > Please fix your CPAN smooking setup. > > Regards, > >Shlomi Fish > > - > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > Parody on "The Fountainhead" - http://xrl.us/bjria > > Shlomi, so what are you working on? Working on a new wiki about unit > testing > fortunes in freecell? -- Ran Eilam >
Re: Generic test database
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:52:42AM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > There's plenty of modules which need a database, > and they all have to be configured differently and they're always a PITA when > you first install and each and every time they upgrade. > > User setup can be dealt with by making Test::Database a build dependency. As > part of Test::Database's install process it walks the user through the > configuration process. Once it's done, it writes out a config file and then > it's done for good. > These are the paragraphs I need to start the DESCRIPTION section. :-) -- Philippe Bruhat (BooK) For every winner, there must be one or more losers. (Moral to the Sage story in Groo #111 (Epic))
Re: Generic test database
David Cantrell writes: > Smylers wrote: > > > It sounds scary to me. If I'm just installing a Perl module from > > Cpan on a newly installed OS, which happens to still have default DB > > connection permissions, I wouldn't expect the module's tests to > > start making use of the DB without asking. > > Of course, a module author can do that already, Indeed (and she could also do the other things I mentioned, such as grabbing images or e-mail addresses). But I don't thing we should encourage such things as being a good practice. > > Further, if the module install fails the database may be left > > behind. > > Having a well-known module specifically for creating, accessing, and > tearing down the test database, written carefully and maintained, > instead of people just hacking up their own nasty solutions to the > problem whenever they need it - this will *reduce* the chances of that > happening. End result - less cruft left on your system *and* better > testing for databasey modules. Yes, that's good. Connecting using environment variables which the user (or tester) has explicitly set up for the purpose is also good. I like this proposal overall, and the current plan for implementing it -- it was only the 'let's grub around on the system and see if the user happens to have left a DBMS unprotected that we can use' but which scared me. Simon
Test::Database 0.01
Hi, I've just put Test::Database 0.01 on PAUSE. The current version is working with the easy stuff (DBD::CSV, DBD::SQLite, DBD::DBM), but most of the interface is ready for databases that need more than a file or a directory. I'll work on the Test::Database::Driver::mysql for the next release. In the meantime, I'm interested in all comments. -- Philippe Bruhat (BooK) The man who does not know his own powers is the least powerful of all. (Moral from Groo The Wanderer #113 (Epic))
Re: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/10/msg2399796.html
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Pete Krawczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Third, there was no reason to cc the perl-qa mailing list. None at all. This > list is for discussion of testing methods and applications, not for > chastising the result of an automated smokebot. Pete makes a good point. Complaints about automated smokebots should be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which many of the CPAN Testers subscribe to and where such complaints are considered "on-topic". -- David
