RE: MakeMaker issues

2001-06-15 Thread Chris Pettit

16MBytes are you sure ??
That's criminal.
I'll snail mail you some RAM, I probably have it laying around some where.
yu=yugoslavia ?? tesla, hmm, he was a great physicist.
may cost more to mail than the ram is worth ??

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Nikola Knezevic
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 7:07 AM
> To: Lee Goddard
> Cc: Sisyphus; Perl_Users
> Subject: RE: MakeMaker issues
> 
> 
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Lee Goddard wrote:
> 
> > > > Not too bad: too about an hour to compile all in all, 
> including tests.
> > > AMD486Dx4, RAM=16MB, Win95, VC++5. It's slow.
> > Ah, well, that explains it!   RAM is so cheap now...!!
> 
> Yes, if you can find it:)) Even antique-shops doesn't have that memory
> (slow, nonEDO, nonSDRAM, slow again, for 486 computers)
> 
> > BTW - whawt does
> > > ... Pravi petodolarac! Vidio sam jednog takvog osobno u 
> maju 1946...
> > mean in English?
> 
> Arhm, well, ouh, ar...
> If you have read the comic 'Alan Ford', this is translated 
> reply from (I
> think) No.1 . In English, it should be retranslated to:)
> Real 5-bucks-coin (grr, bad translation, my comment)! I saw 
> one myself in th
> May of 1946.
> 
> translation for the one below:
> I'm not interested for fame and glory. Only for money!
> -- 
> ... Mene slava i novac ne zanimaju. Zanima me samo novac!
> 
>  - --- -- ---=- --==---===-[Nikola Knezevic]---===+
> +- -=- -==--=- -=-- --- -- - http://users.hemo.net/indy --- -- -
> 
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RE: newbie Perl/NT question

2001-06-15 Thread Chris Pettit

check out roth.net
David has Perl scripts with this functionality.
and other really good links.
He's changed the site around so i don't have a direct link.
Look for Win32::AdminMisc
Lot's of good stuff there, you'll be up late.
clp  


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Kirk W. Batzer
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:45 PM
> To: 'John Dunn'; 'Perl-Win32-Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: newbie Perl/NT question
> 
> 
> I frequently use the "at" command.  It can be run from a client NT/W2K
> machine to schedule and run programs, scripts, etc on remote NT/W2K
> machines.  It can be a little tricky.  Permissions seem to be the most
> trouble. But I do this frequently.
> 
> 
> Kirk W. Batzer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> John Dunn
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:11 AM
> To: 'Perl-Win32-Users Mailing List'
> Subject: newbie Perl/NT question
> 
> 
> We have some simple batch type perl scripts that we want to 
> run on an NT
> server.
> 
> The guestion is how do we start these from a client PC, but 
> ensure that
> they actually run on the server, not the PC. Is this possible 
> or should
> we be starting this bat files via a NT service or some sort 
> of start up
> script?
> 
> Can I turn my perl script into an NT service?
> 
> John
> 
> 
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Re: how to list perl modules!!

2001-06-15 Thread Sisyphus


- Original Message -
From: "Siva Namburi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:28 AM
Subject: how to list perl modules!!


> Hi,
>
>   I was trying to list all the perl modules that are installed on my
> machine (w.r.t a particular build). It is a freeBSD box. If there is a
> command that works on windows, i can probably use the same command on
> freeBSD. I was wondering if anybody could help me with this.
>
> regards,
> siva
>
>

Hi,
I think you'll have to recurse through @INC directories  grepping for '*.pm'
, listing all matches (and their paths relative to the @INC directory).

This is pretty much the way that perl looks for requested modules, and
determines whether they are present.

Cheers,
Rob

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Re: Find and replace

2001-06-15 Thread Sisyphus


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:35 AM
Subject: Find and replace


> Hi
>
> Please help!!! I have spent hours doing this I am new...
>
> I want to do the following
>
> >I read every line of the data that is passed to the script. Then I want
to
> >check each line for an occurrence of the $ sign. If the $ sign is found I
> >want to replace it with the complete string "push
> >\fn"Euro
> >Sign".e\pop"
> >
> What is the best way to do so,.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Hazel Choi
>
> _
Hi,
$data =~ s/\$/push \\fn"Euro Sign"\.e\\pop/g;

or, if you want it formatted as in the email:
$data =~ s/\$/push\n\\fn"Euro\nSign"\.e\\pop/g;

The 'g' will accommodate multiple occurrences of '$' in '$data'.

Cheers,
Rob.

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RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [SPOOFED?]

2001-06-15 Thread Chris Pettit

Dean --
I think someone is spoofing some old posts.
I was trying to figure out where they are coming from.
The other post had my name, but posted way back.
Anyone know ???
Re: your post, though
I have confidence and faith in all the open source fanatics out there.
In twenty years, It will likely be some flavor of open source something.
It's people like us that are steering the ship.
When I started pushing windoze 15 years I was bashed by the DECheads.
Well, they got PC'd.  Just like DEC zapped BigBlue.
Now corporate USA is doing windoze, the are always, always, laggards.
We put in a 100 node Beowulf cluster last year, adios Cray and SGI.
Running a Raidzone ATA raid, check that one out, streaming data at
100+MBytes/sec.
Power, OpenSource, NUMA bus is about to hit Linux clusters 
It will be a awesome ride, hold on. I'm gonna get me one. 8-))
clp

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dean Theophilou
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:29 PM
> To: Perl Users List
> Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]
>
>
> Very funny.  Although it won't be for another 20-50 years,
> the UNIX OS will
> cease to exist as a widely-used OS.  This is not a bash
> against UNIX; it IS
> a high-quality OS.  However, the elitism I have found among
> UNIX people is
> tremendous!  Such elitism is one of the biggest (if not THE
> biggest) reason
> that Apple got screwed, and it is exactly for the same reason
> that UNIX will
> be screwed too.
>
> For all of it's problems, Windows has a great look and feel;
> I can't tell
> you how many times I've heard UNIX people whine about how
> much better a
> command-line-based OS is.  But the fact of the matter is that
> command-lines
> have their time and place, and it is NOT all the time and any place.
> Frequently, using a GUI is a better and more efficient approach.
>
> Nevertheless, there is one thing that I think nobody will
> disagree with: the
> Windows OSs have made computers accessible to just about
> everyone...from a 5
> year old to a 60+ year old...and the proliferation of computers in our
> society has made my job all that much more in demand (and
> profitable).  So I
> thank MS (or M$, if you prefer) and am very appreciative, in spite of
> whether or not it is a "real" OS.
>
>
> Dean Theophilou
> Genisar
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Mark Folse
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]
>
>
> What? You don't have a Real Operating System? That's your problem! ; )
>
> > my only
> > wish is that perlmonks was a bit more friendly to those of us in the
> > corporate
> > world who have no choice but to use WinTel and not Linux.
> >
> > John
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Pettit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:18 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]
> >
> >
> > Greetings --
> > Good research.
> > In a similar thread I suggested that the Perl group have a list
> > modeled
> > after the Python[Tutor] list.
> > They are remarkably kind to folks, and certainly, many folks are too
> > lazy to
> > look things up before posting.
> >
> > Folks like Matt on XML and DaveR on Win32 have done some remarkable
> > efforts
> > to organize informational web sites.  It seems a shame that with all
> > the raw
> > talent out there that a
> > site with the structure of a SourceForge could not be put
> together to
> > channel the learning effort for P(erl||ython),TCL, etc.
> >
> > ActiveState,CPAN, & Perldoc are certainly deserving of credit.  They
> > have
> > done a great deal to provide resources for the scripting community.
> >
> > I think the energies of the folks out there producing modules,
> > bindings and
> > languages are better served building code, not maintaining web sites
> > and
> > answering similar questions so often. I sent a note to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > once and Guido himself responded.  Another thing, it is incredible
> > how kind
> > and seemingly humble some of these mega-giants-of-programming can be
> > to mere
> > lame mortals like myself.
> >
> > It would benefit all if a site structured like SourceForge, for lack
> > of
> > something better call it something like InfoForge or Opendox was to
> > organize
> > printable/searchable Faqs to answer these types of questions.
> > The Perl documentation can be challenging to find things.
> > ( no flashing banner ads/gifs allowed )
> >
> > I know a LOT of experienced programers that are intimidated by Perl.
> > [4real]
> > There is a lot of syntax things that seem to occur by magic like <>
> > @_.
> > I pulled out a Perl book, $_ was covered on p.363-364.
> >
> > The Perl gang reminds me of name that tune...
> > H*ll, I can write that 

RE: newbie Perl/NT question

2001-06-15 Thread Kirk W. Batzer

I frequently use the "at" command.  It can be run from a client NT/W2K
machine to schedule and run programs, scripts, etc on remote NT/W2K
machines.  It can be a little tricky.  Permissions seem to be the most
trouble. But I do this frequently.


Kirk W. Batzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
John Dunn
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:11 AM
To: 'Perl-Win32-Users Mailing List'
Subject: newbie Perl/NT question


We have some simple batch type perl scripts that we want to run on an NT
server.

The guestion is how do we start these from a client PC, but ensure that
they actually run on the server, not the PC. Is this possible or should
we be starting this bat files via a NT service or some sort of start up
script?

Can I turn my perl script into an NT service?

John


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RE: newbie Perl/NT question

2001-06-15 Thread Kirk W. Batzer

I frequently use the "at" command.  It can be run from a client NT/W2K
machine to schedule and run programs, scripts, etc on remote NT/W2K
machines.  It can be a little tricky.  Permissions seem to be the most
trouble. But I do this frequently.


Kirk W. Batzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
John Dunn
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:11 AM
To: 'Perl-Win32-Users Mailing List'
Subject: newbie Perl/NT question


We have some simple batch type perl scripts that we want to run on an NT
server.

The guestion is how do we start these from a client PC, but ensure that
they actually run on the server, not the PC. Is this possible or should
we be starting this bat files via a NT service or some sort of start up
script?

Can I turn my perl script into an NT service?

John


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RE: UNIX like #!

2001-06-15 Thread Chris Pettit




Perl.exe needs to be on the path.
You 
need to have an association with file types 
*.pl to perl.exe
 
Are 
you familiar with the processes ??
What 
windoze do you have ??

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
  Lokesh GuptaSent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:39 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  UNIX like #!
  In a UNIX perl script I can specify the location 
  of the perl executable on the first line (shown below):
   
      
  #!/usr/local/bin/perl
   
  How can I achieve this in Windows environment, so 
  that I do not have to always say at the command prompt:
   
  perl 
  my_perl_script.pl
   
  Thanks
   
  Lokesh


Re: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]

2001-06-15 Thread $Bill Luebkert

Dean Theophilou wrote:
> 
> Very funny.  Although it won't be for another 20-50 years, the UNIX OS will
> cease to exist as a widely-used OS.  This is not a bash against UNIX; it IS
> a high-quality OS.  However, the elitism I have found among UNIX people is
> tremendous!  Such elitism is one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) reason
> that Apple got screwed, and it is exactly for the same reason that UNIX will
> be screwed too.
> 
> For all of it's problems, Windows has a great look and feel; I can't tell
> you how many times I've heard UNIX people whine about how much better a
> command-line-based OS is.  But the fact of the matter is that command-lines
> have their time and place, and it is NOT all the time and any place.
> Frequently, using a GUI is a better and more efficient approach.

Duh - ever hear of X-Windows ?

UNIX has both a fantastic set of commandline utilities, but it also has 
some of the best GUI apps around.  The commandline just happens to get 
where you're going faster (unless you don't have the expertise to use it :).

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RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]

2001-06-15 Thread Dean Theophilou

Very funny.  Although it won't be for another 20-50 years, the UNIX OS will
cease to exist as a widely-used OS.  This is not a bash against UNIX; it IS
a high-quality OS.  However, the elitism I have found among UNIX people is
tremendous!  Such elitism is one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) reason
that Apple got screwed, and it is exactly for the same reason that UNIX will
be screwed too.

For all of it's problems, Windows has a great look and feel; I can't tell
you how many times I've heard UNIX people whine about how much better a
command-line-based OS is.  But the fact of the matter is that command-lines
have their time and place, and it is NOT all the time and any place.
Frequently, using a GUI is a better and more efficient approach.

Nevertheless, there is one thing that I think nobody will disagree with: the
Windows OSs have made computers accessible to just about everyone...from a 5
year old to a 60+ year old...and the proliferation of computers in our
society has made my job all that much more in demand (and profitable).  So I
thank MS (or M$, if you prefer) and am very appreciative, in spite of
whether or not it is a "real" OS.


Dean Theophilou
Genisar


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Mark Folse
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]


What? You don't have a Real Operating System? That's your problem! ; )

> my only
> wish is that perlmonks was a bit more friendly to those of us in the
> corporate
> world who have no choice but to use WinTel and not Linux.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Pettit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community [Xpost]
>
>
> Greetings --
> Good research.
> In a similar thread I suggested that the Perl group have a list
> modeled
> after the Python[Tutor] list.
> They are remarkably kind to folks, and certainly, many folks are too
> lazy to
> look things up before posting.
>
> Folks like Matt on XML and DaveR on Win32 have done some remarkable
> efforts
> to organize informational web sites.  It seems a shame that with all
> the raw
> talent out there that a
> site with the structure of a SourceForge could not be put together to
> channel the learning effort for P(erl||ython),TCL, etc.
>
> ActiveState,CPAN, & Perldoc are certainly deserving of credit.  They
> have
> done a great deal to provide resources for the scripting community.
>
> I think the energies of the folks out there producing modules,
> bindings and
> languages are better served building code, not maintaining web sites
> and
> answering similar questions so often. I sent a note to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> once and Guido himself responded.  Another thing, it is incredible
> how kind
> and seemingly humble some of these mega-giants-of-programming can be
> to mere
> lame mortals like myself.
>
> It would benefit all if a site structured like SourceForge, for lack
> of
> something better call it something like InfoForge or Opendox was to
> organize
> printable/searchable Faqs to answer these types of questions.
> The Perl documentation can be challenging to find things.
> ( no flashing banner ads/gifs allowed )
>
> I know a LOT of experienced programers that are intimidated by Perl.
> [4real]
> There is a lot of syntax things that seem to occur by magic like <>
> @_.
> I pulled out a Perl book, $_ was covered on p.363-364.
>
> The Perl gang reminds me of name that tune...
> H*ll, I can write that code in three lines
> the seive of Erathosenes in ONE line, give me a break, i saw that
> one.
> from the command line no-less.  I love this stuff.
>
> Perhaps a Perl[Assist] group to organize it. How many times
> have people written to dbi-users on installing DBD::Oracle ???
> And they don't even have the Oracle client installed.
>
> Maybe, it's just circumstance, but it seems that interest in Perl is
> increasing.
> In the bookstores i've seen alot of people picking up Perl books
> lately.
> Twice in the last week I've suggested the Perl-DBI book.
>
> Often, when i can take the time to reply to posts, I will try to find
> a link
> and send it to people.  Folks that tell/hint at others to RTFM might
> be just
> as lazy as the person doing the posting !!!
> So, if we had a place to tell them where to go ;-0 , meaning a real
> link, it
> would help.
> An organized effort would help eliminate the inumerable dead links to
> info
> out there.
> As I stated earlier, a SourceForge like site would be helpful.
> Like:
> [FAQ] [PerlDoc] [Cookbook] [SampleCode] [Hints] [Links] [Books]
> [Whitepapers]
>
> And, have volunteers run each module or topic.
> If someone drops the ball others will likely volunteer to pick it up.
> Like wise if someone does a poor job, control could be transferred if
> complaints are 

grep

2001-06-15 Thread Tanya Graham

Hi,
quick question...I am using grep to filter out files of certain extensions.
for some reason, if i only want .c files, it leaves in .rc files.  or if i
were to specify .p, it would leave in .dsp and .cpp.  However, if i were to
specify .cpp, it would not leave in .c. any ideas? if so, please reply to me
personally. 
Thanks,
Tanya Graham

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Find and replace

2001-06-15 Thread

Hi

Please help!!! I have spent hours doing this I am new...

I want to do the following

>I read every line of the data that is passed to the script. Then I want to
>check each line for an occurrence of the $ sign. If the $ sign is found I
>want to replace it with the complete string "push
>\fn"Euro
>Sign".e\pop"
>
What is the best way to do so,.

Thanks in advance
Hazel Choi

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UNIX like #!

2001-06-15 Thread Lokesh Gupta



In a UNIX perl script I can specify the location of 
the perl executable on the first line (shown below):
 
    
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
 
How can I achieve this in Windows environment, so 
that I do not have to always say at the command prompt:
 
perl 
my_perl_script.pl
 
Thanks
 
Lokesh


RE: Perl-Win32-Users digest, Vol 1 #481 - 39 msgs

2001-06-15 Thread Frazier, Joe Jr

general syntax, but should be enough for you to get the idea:

> From: Wagner-David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Perl Win32'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [OLE]Delete some Excecel Worksheets and rename to a 
> different loc
>   ation
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:00:25 -0700

> 
> Sub DeleteSheet()
> '
> ' DeleteSheet Macro
> ' Macro recorded 06/11/2001 by DWAGNE01
> '
> 
> '
>  Application.DisplayAlerts = False
> Sheets("Sheet1").Select
> ActiveWindow.SelectedSheets.Delete
> ChDir "C:\Tariffs\VK 671"
> ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:="C:\Tariffs\VK 671\12048 
> CANCEL a.xls",
> _
> FileFormat:=xlExcel5, Password:="", WriteResPassword:="", _
> ReadOnlyRecommended:=False, CreateBackup:=False
> End Sub
> 
> =cut

$ex = Win32::OLE->New( 'Excel.Application', sub {$_[0]->Quit});  # if
your going to put this in a sub, either a)
#make global var b) pass the object explicitly to each sub (prefered by
me);

DisplayAlerts is a property.  You access object properties with this
syntax:

Application.DisplayAlerts = False  ' VB example
$ex->{DisplayAlerts} = 0; # perl example  assumes you have $ex defined
as an object with DisplayAlerts as one of
#its properties..

Not sure, but I believe "ActiveWindow" is an object contained by the
"Application" object.  so if that be..

$ex->Workbooks("workbooknamehere")->Sheets("Sheet1")->Select();  # You
could probably just call the delete 
##   method next, instead of doing the activesheets thing or perhaps
even changing the select method above 
##  to Delete 


$ex->ActiveSheet->Delete();


You may also want create a new object with: $bookname =
Win32::OLE->New( 'Excel.Workbook') and take out the first and middle
parts and do $bookname->Sheets("Sheet1")->Select();  Its all up to you.


As I said, this is untested, and may even be wrong in one or two places,
but you should get the idea.. 




> 
> 
>$excel->application('DisplayAlerts'=>0);   
> # This is
> not correct
>foreach my $sheet (in $book->Worksheets) {
>$ByPass1++;
>next if ($ByPass1 < 1 );
>$book->Select($sheet); 
>   #
> this is not correct
>$book->ActiveWindow->SelectedSheets->Delete;   # This is not
> correct
> }  # end of check on worksheets
>my $MySaveLoc = $CleanUpLoc . "\\" . $JustFile;
>$book->SaveAs( 'Filename' => $MySaveLoc ,
> 'FileFormat' => xlExcel5, 'Password'=>"", 
> 'WriteResPassword' =>"",
> 'ReadOnlyRecommended' => 0, 'CreateBackup' => 0 );
>$book->Close;
> 
> 
> Wags ;)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 30
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: An open complaint (was RE: An Index of Incivility in 
> the Perl Com
>   munity )
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:19:58 -0700
> 
> >From: "Lee Goddard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: An Index of Incivility in the Perl Community
> >Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:49:29 +0100
> >
> >FWIW
> >
> >Mostly hogswash.  I learnt Perl from scratch without a book, and 
> >got all the help I needed from mailing lists and Usenet.  Okay, 
> >I didn't ask anyone to complete my scripts or explain what an 
> >array is, but I'm not especially bright, just applied common sense.
> >
> >The very high number of lazy people asking questions they could 
> >themselves find answers to in the perldocs is a good enough reason 
> >to either ignore them or reply RTFM - or better, Go To 
> Learn.Perl.Org.
> 
> Okay, folks. I seem to have found my "civility" breaking point. Look,
> whether you like it or not we are always going to get those 
> questions that
> lead one to spout out RTFM. I suggest, however, that we bite 
> our tongue and
> answer the F'n question instead.
> 
> 
> I don't know how many questions I have personally answered 
> because some poor
> newbie came to me with his tail between his legs because he 
> was scolded by
> the so called Perl gurus. If this is the attitude that we as 
> a community are
> going to promote then I suppose I should pack it in right now.
> I don't know why so many of us have this arrogant, "holier than thou"
> attitude. Quite frankly it ticks me off. I dumped a crap load 
> of *unpaid*
> time and effort to promote open software and this community. 
> I certainly did
> not want to foster the pathetically low RTFM attitude.
> What if everyone took your approach. The next time an 
> experienced coder
> comes to me and asks what I deem a silly question I'll just 
> respond with
> RTFSC (read the f'n source code). That ought to stop 
> everyone's questions
> dead. Or how about RTFWAD (read the f'n Win32 API 
> documentation)? Where do
> we draw the line.
> 
> Ladies and gentlemen, I have better things to do with my time 
> than to feed
> into a bunch of elitists. I do hope that we as a community 
> decide to come
> bac

Question about NET::hostent

2001-06-15 Thread Sidwell, Josh

I have written a short script to take a text file and do lookups on the
names to resolve them to IP addresses or vice versa.  I am looking to
streamline the code and look for ways to optomize it.  If anyone would like
to take a look and let me know any suggestions, I would be very
appreciative.

(Also, the script writes out to separate text files right now for debugging
purposes and requires a fqdn.txt file to get its imput.)


##
#   Original code taken from CPAN Documentation for NET::hostent
#
#   This script comes with NO WARRANTY at all.  Use at your own risk.
#
#   Any questions or suggestions, please e-mail me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  #
#   Version 0.1 on 06.11.2001 by Josh Sidwell
#
#
#
#   Currently, this script requires two seperate files.  This is by
design.  #
#   fqdnEXAMPLE simply hold a few Fully Qualified Domain Names as an
example and is#
#   only used if you do not have a fqdn.txt file in the same directory
you are running #
#   resolve_0.1.pl.
#

##
use Net::hostent;
use Socket;
open(FQDN, "fqdn.txt") || &usage;   #
Text file with fully qualified domain namesto be resolved
@fqdn = ; # Array to
hold values from fqdn.txt file for resolving
while (<@fqdn>) {   #
While loop to step through fqdn.txt values

my (@work);
my $VERSION = '0.1';#
Version statement to track development
#   print "In fqdn while loop \n";
#   print "This is Resolve.pl version $VERSION \n";
$work = $_; #
Take current value from @fqdn to operate on
open(fqdnRESOLVED, ">>fqdn.resolved.txt");  # Output
file for resolved info on each value in fqdn.txt
open(fqdnFAILED, ">>fqdn.failed.txt");  # Output
file for failed info on each value in fqdn.txt
print "$_ \n";

for $host ( $work ) {
unless ($h = gethost($host)) {
print fqdnFAILED "FAILED: $host not a valid fqdn.
\n";
warn "$0: no such host: $host\n";
next;
}
printf  fqdnRESOLVED "\n%s is %s%s\n", 
$host, 
lc($h->name) eq lc($host) ? "" : "*really* ",
$h->name;


print fqdnRESOLVED "\taliases are ", join(", ",
@{$h->aliases}), "\n"

if @{$h->aliases}; 

if ( @{$h->addr_list} > 1 ) { 
my $i;
for $addr ( @{$h->addr_list}
) {
printf fqdnRESOLVED
"\taddr #%d is [%s]\n", $i++, inet_ntoa($addr);
}
# End for 

} else {

printf fqdnRESOLVED "\taddress is [%s]\n",
inet_ntoa($h->addr);
}
# End if else 


if ($h = gethostbyaddr($h->addr)) {
if (lc($h->name) ne lc($host)) {
printf fqdnRESOLVED "\tThat addr
reverses to host %s!\n", $h->name;
$host = $h->name;
redo;
}
# End if
}
# End Parent if
}
# End for
}
# End While 
sub usage   {
open(fqdnEXAMPLE, "fqdnEXAMPLE.txt");
@fqdnEXAMPLE = ;
print "Usage: RESOLVE.pl [you must have a fqdn.txt file with the names
or ips you would like to resovle.] \n","Of the following format: \n", "\n",
join("" , @fqdnEXAMPLE), "\n";
exit(0);
}

Joshua Sidwell
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Network Services Division
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www.fa

how to list perl modules!!

2001-06-15 Thread Siva Namburi

Hi,

  I was trying to list all the perl modules that are installed on my
machine (w.r.t a particular build). It is a freeBSD box. If there is a
command that works on windows, i can probably use the same command on
freeBSD. I was wondering if anybody could help me with this.

regards,
siva

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Re: NET::SMS (uk) ??

2001-06-15 Thread mbielik

Hi

For SMS I use http://www.algonet.se/~mattem/homebrewn/mtsms-0.22.pl + 
http://www.mtnsms.com.
I have sent message to Slovakia and UK without problem.You have to be 
registered of course.

Marian





> hi
> 
> i downloaded the Net::SMS module (cant remember exact name), but only
> after 
> this did i realise that it could only be used for US based mobile
> networks ,
> 
> does anyone know of a module which can send SMS messages and can be used
> for 
> UK based mobile networks??
> 
> 
> 
> waseem
> 
> http://www.todayinsoccer.com - the ultimate soccer history site
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RE: format

2001-06-15 Thread Joe Schell



> -Original Message-
> Behalf Of Carlo Costa
>
>
> sorry this is a stupid question but..
> can some one be so kind to explain me why this code is not working??
>
> $str = "carlo";
> format stampa =
>   test: @<<
> $str
> .
> write;
>
>  I get this msg:
> Missing right curly or square bracket at script line 4, at end of
> linesyntax
> error at script line 4, at EOF
> Execution of script aborted due to compilation errors.
>

I would guess the problem is elsewhere in your code.  Using perl 5.6.0 and
replacing 'stampa' with STDOUT, the code fragment runs for me.

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RE: Find && Grep

2001-06-15 Thread Sidwell, Josh

Thank you for all of your help getting the recursive directory walking
portion.  I have been trying to adapt a portion of active states
documentation on 'study' to grep through the documents that are found using
the script you sent (again, thank you), but I am having trouble getting it
to work

Am I going about this correctly.  I need to return the file names from the
array that is created in your script if the file contains an instance of an
arbitrary keyword(s).

E.g  -->  'Human Resources', 'Jobs', 'Intra1', etc.

I would prefer to serach for the keyword taken from a file with a setup
similar to this:

Open(KEYWORDS, "keys.txt");
@keys = ;
Close(KEYWORDS);

while (<@ips>) {
()  # I don't know how to do this portion
}

__BEGIN__
$search = 'while (<>) { study;';
foreach $word (@words) {
$search .= "++\$seen{\$ARGV} if /\\b$word\\b/;\n";
}
$search .= "}";
@ARGV = @files;
undef $/;
eval $search;   # this screams
$/ = "\n";  # put back to normal input delimiter
foreach $file (sort keys(%seen)) {
print $file, "\n";
}
__END__


Any and all help is welcome.  I have searched the documentation, but I do
not know enough to really begin.  I am pretty familiar with grep, but I am
certainly not a wiz at writing regular expressions.

Thanks,



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::-Original Message-
::From: $Bill Luebkert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
::Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:52 AM
::Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
::Subject: Re: Find && Grep
::
::
::Walter Torres wrote:
::> 
::> > -Original Message-
::> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
::> > 
::[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
::> > $Bill Luebkert
::> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:26 PM
::> > Cc: Sidwell, Josh; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
::> > Subject: Re: Find && Grep
::> >
::> >
::> > "$Bill Luebkert" wrote:
::> >
::> 
::> Nice little piece Bill, but I have one question (maybe 2)...
::> 
::> I don't see what this is looking for?
::
::html and asp files.
::
::> I see what it is NOT looking for.
::> 
::> Does this look for text inside files?
::
::No. Missed that part in the orig post.  You would have to 
::open each of the files in @files and look for any text or use grep 
::system call before accumulating into @files or ???
::
::> Does this look for certain file names?
::
::Yes.  .html, .htm, .asp
:: 
::> Thanks
::> 
::> Walter
::> 
::> >
::> > Tested:
::> >
::> > use strict;
::> > use File::Find;
::> >
::> > my @files = (); # Array to hold resulting files
::> > my $rootdir = 'c:/temp';# Start here in this directory
::> >
::> > find (\&wanted, $rootdir);  # Examine the files
::> >
::> > foreach (@files) {  # print list
::> >   print "$_\n";
::> > }
::> > exit 0;
::> >
::> > sub wanted
::> > {
::> ># skip files not wanted and non-plain files
::> >return if not /\.(html|htm|asp)$/i or not -f $_;
::> ># Append path
::> >push @files, $File::Find::name;
::> >(use $_ for just filename)
::> > }
::> > __END__
::
::
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Re: Strange Question? Is compiler fault?

2001-06-15 Thread Frazier, Joe Jr


> From: "cloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Paul G. Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Strange Question? Is compiler fault?
> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:59:36 +0800
> 
> 
> although $i = $i run before $i++, But
> the increment should be work, so $i should be 1, isn't it?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul G. Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "cloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Strange Question? Is compiler fault?
> 
> 
> > The expression $i++ has the *effect* of incrementing $i
> > but its *value* is the value of $i before the increment.
> >
> > So the assignment
> >
> > $i = $i++;
> >
> > is a no-op, because you are assigning to $i the value that
> > it had before the increment.
> >
> > -Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, cloud wrote:
> >
> > > All:
> > >
> > > I excute follow code & got some Strange result,
> > > Why? Why $i = 0
> > > ===
> > > $i = 0;
> > > $i = $i++;
> > > print "$i\n";
> > > ===
> > >
> > >
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I thought for sure that about 9 months ago I heard some discusion on
this list about the autoincrement  operator not having any difinative
order.  Basically, from what I remember, the thread ended up saying not
to rely on the value being either changed or unchanged if you use the
var on the same line for some other reason.  Does anyone else rememever
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Re: Help needed converting form textarea data into an html table

2001-06-15 Thread Gary Nielson

Thanks. That did the trick! 

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, $Bill Luebkert wrote:

> Gary Nielson wrote:
> > 
> > I am having trouble figuring out how to turn the contents from a form
> > textarea into an html table.
> > 
> > First, I am splitting into an array the contents of a data file and doing
> > some manipulation of the text. ('' equals one  because normally
> > when typing in this textarea, we need to know how to break up
> > paragraphs.):
> > 
> > 992451492:^06/13/2001 11:58:^Middle School Boys Soccer:^Tue, Mar
> > 21North Kannapolishome54/37 winThr Apr 2Mount
> > Pleasantaway72/86 winSat, Apr 3First Assembly,
> > Concordhome9:00 a.m.Tue, Apr 9Forsyth Country
> > Dayaway4 pm
> > 
> > my ($self, $articleNumber) = @_;
> > open(SPORTS,
> > "/webServer/virtualDW/cannonschool.org/cgi-bin/newsEdit2/newsInfo.txt");
> > my (@sportsInfo);
> > @sports = ;
> > close(SPORTS);
> > 
> >foreach $line (@sports){
> >   ($uid, $date, $headLine, $article) = split(/\:\^/,$line);
> >   if ($articleNumber == $uid) {
> >  $article =~ s///g;
> >  }
> > }
> > 
> > Then I hope to use the  to convert the contents of $article into a
> > table. I am having trouble converting a scalar variable into an array and
> > then using something like "foreach $line". I can not get the new
> > array to break the  into a new line, as in:
> > 
> >print OUT "$headLine\n";
> >print OUT "\n";
> >@array = $article;
> >@array =~ s//\n/ig;
> 
> Replace the 2 lines above with:
> 
>   @array = split //, $article;
> 
> Then just make sure you add a newline when you print each line if needed.
> 
> 
> >foreach $line (@array) {
> > ($date, $opponent, $location, $time_score) = split(/\:\^/,$line);
>   
> Shouldn't this be splitting on  instead of :^ ?
> 
> > print OUT 
>"$date$opponent$location$time_score\n";
> > }
> > 
> > print OUT "\n";
> > 
> > Perl is seeing the entire array as one line and only presents in tabular
> > format the contents of one entry within the $article:
> > 
> > 
> > Middle School Boys Soccer
> > 
> > Tue, Mar 21North Kannapolishome54/37
> > win
> > 
> > Thr Apr 2
> > 
> > 
> > Any help, advice, guidance appreciated. Thank you.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Find && Grep

2001-06-15 Thread $Bill Luebkert

Walter Torres wrote:
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > $Bill Luebkert
> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:26 PM
> > Cc: Sidwell, Josh; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Re: Find && Grep
> >
> >
> > "$Bill Luebkert" wrote:
> >
> 
> Nice little piece Bill, but I have one question (maybe 2)...
> 
> I don't see what this is looking for?

html and asp files.

> I see what it is NOT looking for.
> 
> Does this look for text inside files?

No. Missed that part in the orig post.  You would have to open
each of the files in @files and look for any text or use grep 
system call before accumulating into @files or ???

> Does this look for certain file names?

Yes.  .html, .htm, .asp
 
> Thanks
> 
> Walter
> 
> >
> > Tested:
> >
> > use strict;
> > use File::Find;
> >
> > my @files = (); # Array to hold resulting files
> > my $rootdir = 'c:/temp';# Start here in this directory
> >
> > find (\&wanted, $rootdir);  # Examine the files
> >
> > foreach (@files) {  # print list
> >   print "$_\n";
> > }
> > exit 0;
> >
> > sub wanted
> > {
> ># skip files not wanted and non-plain files
> >return if not /\.(html|htm|asp)$/i or not -f $_;
> ># Append path
> >push @files, $File::Find::name;
> >(use $_ for just filename)
> > }
> > __END__


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Re: HELP to unsubscribe

2001-06-15 Thread Vince Wilding

Have you tried going to this link that is at the bottom of every message?
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RE: HELP to unsubscribe

2001-06-15 Thread Cornish, Merrill

Try this:  Go to www.ActiveState.com, ActivePerl, Support, Mailing List, and
there should be stuff there to let you unsubscribe.

Merrill

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RE: Re: Perl and Javascript

2001-06-15 Thread Gregory_Griffiths

You would just use some Javascript such as the following :

document...value = 

where  is the NAME attribute of your  tag,  is the NAME attribute of your form field and  is the 
value that you are trying to assign to it, in this case your users 
entered data.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 June 2001 19:04
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: Perl and Javascript
> 
> 
> How are you doing that?
> 
> Mark Bergeron
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu Jun 14 10:59:51 PDT 2001
> Subject: Re: Perl and Javascript
> 
> >What I've had luck doing is setting the value of an INPUT 
> type field on the form (hidden or not) with the JavaScript 
> and then I can pass that value on as a normal 'param'.
> >
> >Stanley G. Martin
> >Midwest Consulting Group
> >Sprint Platform & Strategy Mgmt
> >913.315.3133
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >From:Eric.Gargantiel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >Sent:Thursday, June 14, 2001 12:47 PM
> >To:  perl-win32-users
> >Cc:  Eric.Gargantiel
> >Subject: Perl and Javascript
> >
> >Hello,
> > I've been working with HTML embedded in PERL scripts. I 
> came upon a
> >situation where I would like to use a javascript prompt that 
> would ask for
> >data, say a "name". In which case, I would then use that piece of
> >information as a parameter to run another script. I've been 
> having problems
> >exporting the value in a javascript variable back to the 
> actual PERL portion
> >so I can use it again later. If anyone could please provide 
> me with an
> >example of such, i would greatly appreciate it. 
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Erick
> >
> >
> >
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