OT: Out of office (Re: Jack Roth is out of the office...)

2005-12-28 Thread Steve Dawson

Ted Schuerzinger wrote:


"Jack Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> graced perl with these words of
wisdom: 
 


SNIP


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of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited.  If you
are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately
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It's obnoxious disclaimers like this that make me want to forward the 
message to everybody I know.  ;-)
 



So what do you do when the email footer demands that you delete the  
message and your corporate email policy demands that you retain all emails?


And exactly how is it prohibited?

You send it to me with my name and address on it therefore it's mine. 
This is not case of the post office delivering mail to the wrong 
address. Do we need to have a disclaimer in our mail servers that warns 
the sender that we retain the right to permanently store and publish any 
emails that we are sent?


Last year I got an email from a lawyer I'd been dealing with on a 
copyright issue who let Outlook autocomplete to the wrong address. It 
contained a copy of a contract between two companies that were 
considering a merger. I advised him he'd sent it to the wrong address, 
he demanded all copies be deleted and it wound up with lawyers fighting 
over our right to keep an audit trail of all electronic documents and 
emails as part of our transactional history. They turned up the heat 
quite high because I work for a newspaper and the merger deal was 
supposed to be a secret. By the time the lawyers had got involved it was 
a exective management policy crisis and the Editor was wanting to break 
the merger story on page 1. We didn't run the story but we did retain 
the emails.


Steve
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RE: Why do they insist on making PPM so difficult to troubleshoot ??

2005-12-28 Thread Jan Dubois
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, $Bill Luebkert wrote:
> > I'm not sure how permanent this location is, but
> > http://ppm.activestate.com/PPMPackages/5.8-windows/
> 
> You'll notice that instead of having them typed as text/plain,
> they have them as application/octet-stream forcing you to D/L
> rather than display them in your browser.  I don't think there's
> anything in a .ppd file that would warrant binary treatment.

Thanks for pointing that out. The content type has been changed to
text/xml, which displays correctly in both IE and FireFox.

Cheers,
-Jan


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Re: need Win32::AdminMisc

2005-12-28 Thread Sisyphus

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas, Mark - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:08 AM
Subject: need Win32::AdminMisc


I'm in need of Win32::AdminMisc and roth.net has been down for several
days. Why this module has never been in CPAN and/or the AS ppd list is a
mystery to me.

Does anyone know of a mirror? Or has a cached/downloaded ppm file?

Thanks,
- Mark.






Seems like they tried to build it and if you go to
http://ppm.activestate.com/BuildStatus/5.8-W.html you'll see that it failed
(which is not their fault). The failure report is at:
http://ppm.activestate.com/BuildStatus/5.8-windows/windows-5.8/Win32-AdminMisc-0.01.txt
 .

I have version 20030714 which I'll send over. (I don't know if that's the
latest version.)

Cheers,

Rob

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RE: Why do they insist on making PPM so difficult to troubleshoot ??

2005-12-28 Thread Jan Dubois
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Jeff Griffiths wrote:
> perhaps Gozer can give a more complete answer, but I expect the
> difference is that the ppd with the url above is available for PPM2
> compatibility, whereas in ppm3, you are hitting Gozer's new, super-
> fast, super-cool mod_perl server implementation.
>
> Part of the reason why people were seeing failures initially was due
> to some bugs in the new server codebase, but we believe these have all
> now been resolved. In our tests ppm is now much faster, and also puts
> almost no load on the server it is running on.

The PPM2 and PPM3 servers should now always return identical result sets,
so to get even better performance you should switch off the PPM2
repository in your PPM3 clients.

Cheers,
-Jan


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need Win32::AdminMisc

2005-12-28 Thread Thomas, Mark - BLS CTR



I'm in need of 
Win32::AdminMisc and roth.net has been down for several days. Why this module 
has never been in CPAN and/or the AS ppd list is a mystery to 
me.
 
Does anyone know 
of a mirror? Or has a cached/downloaded ppm file?
 
Thanks,
- 
Mark.
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Re: Why do they insist on making PPM so difficult to troubleshoot ??

2005-12-28 Thread Jeff Griffiths



Sisyphus wrote:


Yes - that's possibly what I was trying to find. I've since had time
to take a more thorough look at the ppm documentation and, in so
doing, found that the ppd file can be displayed by running:

ppm describe -ppd DBI

Interestingly, that displays a slightly different ppd file to the one
I see when I browse to
http://ppm.activestate.com/PPMPackages/5.8-windows/DBI.ppd . (The
difference is that one way lists a fully qualified CODEBASE HREF 
path, whereas the other lists a relative CODEBASE HREF path. I'm not

sure what's happening there ... I think I don't want to think about
it any more


perhaps Gozer can give a more complete answer, but I expect the
difference is that the ppd with the url above is available for PPM2
compatibility, whereas in ppm3, you are hitting Gozer's new, super-fast,
super-cool mod_perl server implementation.

Part of the reason why people were seeing failures initially was due to
some bugs in the new server codebase, but we believe these have all now
been resolved. In our tests ppm is now much faster, and also puts almost
no load on the server it is running on.

cheers, JeffG
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RE: MS SMTP and MS FTP server information

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Sobey
> How can I find this stuff with Perl?
> I need to dump the SMTP and ftp settings, what MS calls 
> properties, from
> a machine for a report but the setup is done using IIS with GUIs.
> 
> Anyone know how to do this? Where to get the information from?
> I've scoured the registry and can't find where Gates' hides it.

Depends on which version of IIS you mean. IIS 6 stores its info in a
plain xml file, system32\inetsrv\metabase.xml. You can open this and
play with standard tools, although you need to configure IIS to allow
edits while running, or shutdown IIS, before making changes. You should
find most of what you need in there. Alternatively, you could check out
the ADSI/WMI providers:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/I
IS/43a51d34-7c81-413b-9727-ec9a19d0b428.mspx

IIS 5 is not as easy since the metabase is a proprietry binary format,
but there are still command line/COM interfaces to management I think.

I've never used any of this stuff but it looks promising.

Cheers,
Paul

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MS SMTP and MS FTP server information

2005-12-28 Thread John Serink
Hi All:

How can I find this stuff with Perl?
I need to dump the SMTP and ftp settings, what MS calls properties, from
a machine for a report but the setup is done using IIS with GUIs.

Anyone know how to do this? Where to get the information from?
I've scoured the registry and can't find where Gates' hides it.

Cheers,
John

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