RE: PERL on a CD
Also PPM would not be able to install any modules because it wouldn't be able to write to the CD, but this is more of a solution for distributing a script within an organization. -Original Message- From: Foo JH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:02 PM To: Timothy Johnson Cc: Michael D. Smith; perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: Re: PERL on a CD The only downside to running (Active)Perl from a CD, is that ppm does not seem to work. Something about paths being wrong and stuff. Appreciate any solutions to this matter. Timothy Johnson wrote: > The only disadvantage to running Perl from a CD is that the file > associations would not be there, so you would have to prepend perl.exe > to your command-line to launch your script. > > perl myscript.pl > > Other than that, you can just copy your perl directory to a CD and run > it from any machine with a similar architecture. If you're going to be > redistributing scripts a lot, though, it might be worth looking into the > Perl Dev Kit from ActiveState. You can package your scripts into > executables and redistribute them without having to worry if the client > has Perl installed or not. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Michael D. Smith > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:32 AM > To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com > Subject: Re: PERL on a CD > > > Is it possible to burn PERL and a script onto a CD and execute it from > there without installing perl on the host computer? > > There would be nothing in the registry. The path to perl.exe would have > to > be included for the script to execute -- but beyond that, I'm a blank. > > Any thoughts appreciated. > > Actually, it would be unknown if PERL were installed on the host > computer > or not -- is there any way to check first? -- as it would definitely > execute quicker off the hard drive than off a CD. > > TIA > > ms > > ___ > Perl-Win32-Users mailing list > Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com > To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs > > ___ > Perl-Win32-Users mailing list > Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com > To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs > ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: Up-to-date Alternatives to Tiny Perl? (Was: PERL on a CD)
- Original Message - From: "Foo JH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sisyphus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Veli-Pekka Tätilä" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Up-to-date Alternatives to Tiny Perl? (Was: PERL on a CD) > This is encouraging. Do you know if the free version of the MS compiler > will work as well? When that compiler was first made available it was (I think) version 7.1. Now (I think) it's version 8.0. I haven't used that compiler at all. I do know that others are happily using it (presumably both 7.1 and 8.0) to build XS modules (extensions) with ActiveState perl. But I don't know of *anyone* who has used that free compiler to build perl itself. The README.win32 in the perl source has detailed instructions on how to build perl using that free compiler - but I've not seen anyone actually come out and say "yes, I followed those instructions and it worked". If you want to build perl using a free compiler then, imho, it's far easier to use MinGW and dmake and I *do* know that building perl that way is trivial. You'll find dmake at http://search.cpan.org/~shay/dmake-4.5-20060619-SHAY/ and MinGW at www.mingw.org . Still - if anyone who has already downloaded the free MS compiler likes to try to build perl using that compiler, then a report on the exercise would be a most welcome read. I might even try it myself, despite the fact that the task of downloading the compiler (and its bits and pieces) looks distinctly unpleasant. Cheers, Rob ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: Up-to-date Alternatives to Tiny Perl? (Was: PERL on a CD)
This is encouraging. Do you know if the free version of the MS compiler will work as well? Sisyphus wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Veli-Pekka Tätilä" > . > . > >> How difficult would it be to compile my own Perl using VC6 and include the >> modules, too? I've only been installing Perl modules using PPM so far >> although do know C. >> >> > > With either VC6.0, VC7.x or MinGW/dmake, building perl 5.8.8 is *very* easy. > (It might also be just as easy with VC8 ... not sure.) Just follow the > instructions in 'README.win32' in the perl source tarball. > > With VC compilers it's pretty much just a matter of: > 1) unpack the perl5.8.8 source. > 2) cd to the 'win32' folder > 3) edit 'Makefile' so that 'INST_DRV' and 'INST_TOP' point to the location > where you want perl to be installed. > 4) run 'nmake' > 5) check that all is ok by running 'nmake test' > 6) run 'nmake install' > > That will give you an ActiveState-type build of perl. There are other > changes you can make to the Makefile if you like (eg to disable > multi-threading, or to build a debug version of perl) - the configurable > section of that file is largely self-documenting. > > However, there's not necessarily much to gain by building your own perl (as > opposed to installing AS perl) and there can even be some disadvantages - > such as no PPM (though you can install an old version of PPM from CPAN), and > none of the non-CORE modules that PPM uses. > > Cheers, > Rob > > ___ > Perl-Win32-Users mailing list > Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com > To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs > ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: PERL on a CD
The only downside to running (Active)Perl from a CD, is that ppm does not seem to work. Something about paths being wrong and stuff. Appreciate any solutions to this matter. Timothy Johnson wrote: > The only disadvantage to running Perl from a CD is that the file > associations would not be there, so you would have to prepend perl.exe > to your command-line to launch your script. > > perl myscript.pl > > Other than that, you can just copy your perl directory to a CD and run > it from any machine with a similar architecture. If you're going to be > redistributing scripts a lot, though, it might be worth looking into the > Perl Dev Kit from ActiveState. You can package your scripts into > executables and redistribute them without having to worry if the client > has Perl installed or not. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Michael D. Smith > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:32 AM > To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com > Subject: Re: PERL on a CD > > > Is it possible to burn PERL and a script onto a CD and execute it from > there without installing perl on the host computer? > > There would be nothing in the registry. The path to perl.exe would have > to > be included for the script to execute -- but beyond that, I'm a blank. > > Any thoughts appreciated. > > Actually, it would be unknown if PERL were installed on the host > computer > or not -- is there any way to check first? -- as it would definitely > execute quicker off the hard drive than off a CD. > > TIA > > ms > > ___ > Perl-Win32-Users mailing list > Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com > To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs > > ___ > Perl-Win32-Users mailing list > Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com > To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs > ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
RE: It works!!! PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes
That's it! Works perfectly now. No distribution. I'm carrying the CD with me to one other computer then taking it home with me and now it doesn't install a thing on the other computer -- not even in a temp directory, so it would seem (to me but I'm no lawyer) there should be less licensing issues than otherwise. ms At 10:23 AM 7/26/2006, Timothy Johnson wrote: >Also note that you should be able to use a path, like so: > >open=perl\bin\perl.exe myscript.pl > >(with the same caveat Jan gave us yesterday that you have to make sure >you're appropriately licensed if you plan to distribute outside of your >organization) > > > >-Original Message- >From: Timothy Johnson >Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:21 AM >To: 'Michael D. Smith'; perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com >Subject: RE: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes > >I think you want the Autorun.inf file, not ini. > >Check out the reference here: ><http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellc >c/platform/shell/programmersguide/shell_basics/shell_basics_extending/au >torun/autoplay_cmds.asp> > > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Michael D. Smith >Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:59 AM >To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com >Subject: Re: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes > > >Despite the fact the file association is not there now, the CD that I >made >yesterday still autoruns, so there must be something to this "shows it >to >you when it decides it wants to" nonsense. More to talk with Billy about >if >I ever get a chance. > >Besides, Autorun.ini will not accept a path, relative or otherwise, >either. >The file to be opened must be in the root directory with autorun. > > ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: PERL on a CD
Michael D. Smith wrote: > Then I thought to try an autorun.ini file containing something like: > [autorun] > shellexecute=Perl\bin\perl.exe myscript.pl Are you sure you don't mean autorun.inf (install method) ? ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
RE: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes
Also note that you should be able to use a path, like so: open=perl\bin\perl.exe myscript.pl (with the same caveat Jan gave us yesterday that you have to make sure you're appropriately licensed if you plan to distribute outside of your organization) -Original Message- From: Timothy Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:21 AM To: 'Michael D. Smith'; perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: RE: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes I think you want the Autorun.inf file, not ini. Check out the reference here: <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellc c/platform/shell/programmersguide/shell_basics/shell_basics_extending/au torun/autoplay_cmds.asp> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael D. Smith Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:59 AM To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: Re: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes Despite the fact the file association is not there now, the CD that I made yesterday still autoruns, so there must be something to this "shows it to you when it decides it wants to" nonsense. More to talk with Billy about if I ever get a chance. Besides, Autorun.ini will not accept a path, relative or otherwise, either. The file to be opened must be in the root directory with autorun. ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
RE: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes
I think you want the Autorun.inf file, not ini. Check out the reference here: <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellc c/platform/shell/programmersguide/shell_basics/shell_basics_extending/au torun/autoplay_cmds.asp> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael D. Smith Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:59 AM To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: Re: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes Despite the fact the file association is not there now, the CD that I made yesterday still autoruns, so there must be something to this "shows it to you when it decides it wants to" nonsense. More to talk with Billy about if I ever get a chance. Besides, Autorun.ini will not accept a path, relative or otherwise, either. The file to be opened must be in the root directory with autorun. ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes
Despite the fact the file association is not there now, the CD that I made yesterday still autoruns, so there must be something to this "shows it to you when it decides it wants to" nonsense. More to talk with Billy about if I ever get a chance. Besides, Autorun.ini will not accept a path, relative or otherwise, either. The file to be opened must be in the root directory with autorun. I need a C wrapper, say setup.exe, to open perl and it's command line argument. Assuming I can do a relative path in C of course. If only i knew how to do that. I have a beginning C book and an advanced C book. Apparently it's in the middle-ing C book :) ms At 06:34 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote: >Michael D. Smith wrote: > > Okay, tested just copying the Perl folder to E drive and it worked. > > > > My CD drives are G and H but a CD could be any drive letter so now I need > > a relative path. >A no can do for shortcuts as paths are made absolute. Another problem could >be changing drive letters due to removable drives, by the way. If you've got >control over the target machines you could use mounted folders for USB stuff >in stead of drives. This is well hidden, and found in: >control panel, administrative tools, computer management, disk management, >[context menu] change drive letter and paths, [button] add, [checkbox] mount >in the following empty NTFS folder > > > somehow my file associations to ini have all become notepad.exe and one > > action has disappeared completely. >Ouch this sounds bad. Have you ttried pressing the restore button in the >Folder Options tab to see if it helps? You asked if it would be possible to >check what settings Windows is using for the disappeared items like install, >the answer is that those items are generated dynamically, presumably by >shell extensions, and do not show up in Folder Options. This one is there -- or was yesterday. ms > I ran into similar >trouble in trying to add new actions to folders. In my case, this Microsoft >article helped: > >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321186 > >-- >With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and programming: >http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila/ > >___ >Perl-Win32-Users mailing list >Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com >To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: PERL on a CD: Ini Association and relative Path Woes
Michael D. Smith wrote: > Okay, tested just copying the Perl folder to E drive and it worked. > > My CD drives are G and H but a CD could be any drive letter so now I need > a relative path. A no can do for shortcuts as paths are made absolute. Another problem could be changing drive letters due to removable drives, by the way. If you've got control over the target machines you could use mounted folders for USB stuff in stead of drives. This is well hidden, and found in: control panel, administrative tools, computer management, disk management, [context menu] change drive letter and paths, [button] add, [checkbox] mount in the following empty NTFS folder > somehow my file associations to ini have all become notepad.exe and one > action has disappeared completely. Ouch this sounds bad. Have you ttried pressing the restore button in the Folder Options tab to see if it helps? You asked if it would be possible to check what settings Windows is using for the disappeared items like install, the answer is that those items are generated dynamically, presumably by shell extensions, and do not show up in Folder Options. I ran into similar trouble in trying to add new actions to folders. In my case, this Microsoft article helped: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321186 -- With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and programming: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila/ ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: Up-to-date Alternatives to Tiny Perl? (Was: PERL on a CD)
- Original Message - From: "Veli-Pekka Tätilä" . . > > How difficult would it be to compile my own Perl using VC6 and include the > modules, too? I've only been installing Perl modules using PPM so far > although do know C. > With either VC6.0, VC7.x or MinGW/dmake, building perl 5.8.8 is *very* easy. (It might also be just as easy with VC8 ... not sure.) Just follow the instructions in 'README.win32' in the perl source tarball. With VC compilers it's pretty much just a matter of: 1) unpack the perl5.8.8 source. 2) cd to the 'win32' folder 3) edit 'Makefile' so that 'INST_DRV' and 'INST_TOP' point to the location where you want perl to be installed. 4) run 'nmake' 5) check that all is ok by running 'nmake test' 6) run 'nmake install' That will give you an ActiveState-type build of perl. There are other changes you can make to the Makefile if you like (eg to disable multi-threading, or to build a debug version of perl) - the configurable section of that file is largely self-documenting. However, there's not necessarily much to gain by building your own perl (as opposed to installing AS perl) and there can even be some disadvantages - such as no PPM (though you can install an old version of PPM from CPAN), and none of the non-CORE modules that PPM uses. Cheers, Rob ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
RE: PERL on a CD
Okay, tested just copying the Perl folder to E drive and it worked. I uninstalled perl and deleted the folders from my hard drive for testing purposes, burned perl folder onto the CD, deleted eg and html folders for space but it wasn't really necessary, there's plenty of room. My CD drives are G and H but a CD could be any drive letter so now I need a relative path. I first thought use a shortcut and then open the properties dialog box and enter what you want but Windozes won't accept a relative path there. I would call BillyG and tell him what I think about that but his number is unlisted :) Then I thought to try an autorun.ini file containing something like: [autorun] shellexecute=Perl\bin\perl.exe myscript.pl That works for html files anyway and it * might * work for this but somehow my file associations to ini have all become notepad.exe and one action has disappeared completely. If someone would please open folder options, file types tab, scroll down to ini and highlight, then click the advanced button, then highlight -- here I'm not sure, it's the one that disappeared, it's something like "install" or "execute" or "run" or... -- and click the Edit button and tell me what's in the "Application used to perform action" dialog box -- I would appreciate it very much. Thanks very much for everyone's patience with my tinkering. BTW this is not for distribution. It's a one time thing on one computer but important (to me) nevertheless. I tried PP, that worked, but I really don't want to install anything on the host computer, even in the Temp file. ms ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: Up-to-date Alternatives to Tiny Perl? (Was: PERL on a CD)
Hi List, As I seemdd to mis the root note on this thread, hope I'm quoting the right person here. Michael D. Smith wrote: > Is it possible to burn PERL and a script onto a CD and execute it from > there without installing perl on the host computer? The first thing I'd try for simple scripts would be Tiny Perl at: http://tinyperl.sourceforge.net/ The advantages include that it requires no setting up (just download and unzip), has many of the standard modules in an extensible zip file and fits on a floppy. I have a question related to this: I'm writing a little Perl tutorial and would liek to use a small, minimalist, no-install Perl distro for the examples. I'm going to recommend Active State Perl for any serious use and use it once we get to Win32 modules, but before that I'd like a simpler alternative for people to try out. So far I've been using Tiny Perl but am wondering if there are any good free alternatives. My requirements differ slightly in that I cannot anticipate exactly which modules people might like to test and also writing on HD temporarily or in your own dir, would be acceptable. I don't need to run a Web server but support for Win32 basics might be nice as I'm targetting that platform specifically. How difficult would it be to compile my own Perl using VC6 and include the modules, too? I've only been installing Perl modules using PPM so far although do know C. Here's what's wrong with Tiny Perl for my purposes: Firstly, it is slightly out of date. I'd like to use 5.8.7 or something binary compatible with it. Secondly, many of the modules which are thought of as standard are not included due to size considerations. AS the tutorial is lots about syntax and text files, I'm missing Tie::FIle and Filter::Simple in particular. Lastly, it is a little too small. I could live with something under 2 MB and wouldn't mind the size increase, if a larger portion of modules people are likely to use could be included that way. The way in which I've been doing it in the past is to manually copy things from ActiveState Perl's lib or site directories including the stuff in auto, until the script works and all dependencies are resolved. Not awfully smart but it get the job done before changes in binary compatibility. Another consideration is the licence policy, which wouldn't let me distribute such modified distroes if based on Active State. So any help greatly appreciated. I've Googled the Web and comp.lang.perl-misc with pretty bad results so far. Gotta go now. -- With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and programming: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila/ ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: PERL on a CD
"Michael D. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote at Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:31:37 -0500: > Is it possible to burn PERL and a script onto a CD and execute it from > there without installing perl on the host computer? > > There would be nothing in the registry. The path to perl.exe would > have to be included for the script to execute -- but beyond that, I'm > a blank. > Any thoughts appreciated. > > Actually, it would be unknown if PERL were installed on the host > computer or not -- is there any way to check first? -- as it would > definitely execute quicker off the hard drive than off a CD. The PAR module distribution can package a Perl script and its dependencies in a Perl ARchive. You can even build in your Perl interpreter to create a stand-alone executable program. Your script and its dependencies will be unpacked from the CD into a temporary directory on the host machine's hard disk. You didn't say whether you were sure the version of Perl on the host machine would be the same as yours, or list any modules used by your script, so I would advise going with a stand-alone executable. Some XS-based modules won't work when loaded by a Perl interpreter that is binary-incompatible with the one used to build the module. ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
RE: PERL on a CD
It's just expanding $ENV{TEMP} to get that directory, so you should
still be able to write the temporary files to the cache. There should
be no registry entries or DLL registries required, but I don't have a
lot of experience with PAR.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Michael D. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:09 PM
To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com
Subject: RE: PERL on a CD
I installed PAR using ppm. It seemed to work. It created an executable
file
that ran.
It seems that what it's doing is putting (installing?) Perl, or at least
a
big piece of it, in a "temp" file. Specifically: C:\Documents and
Settings\Administrator\Local
Settings\Temp\par-Administrator\cache-1153854792
If I wasn't logged on as admin, could it write to a file in that part of
the dir tree?
If it can do that, it "looks like" executing off the CD should be much
the
same thing, without installing a bunch of files on the host computer.
Unless that executable, in addition to those files, added registry
entries
as well. Hummm...
ms
At 01:16 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote:
> par-0.942 includes the Perl Packager. It worked well for me,
although
>a very short script came out to a 1.3 meg .exe file.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Lynn, Tom
>Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:14 AM
>To: 'Michael D. Smith'
>Subject: RE: PERL on a CD
>
>Why not just make your script an standalone executable program?
>
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RE: PERL on a CD
I installed PAR using ppm. It seemed to work. It created an executable file that ran. It seems that what it's doing is putting (installing?) Perl, or at least a big piece of it, in a "temp" file. Specifically: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Temp\par-Administrator\cache-1153854792 If I wasn't logged on as admin, could it write to a file in that part of the dir tree? If it can do that, it "looks like" executing off the CD should be much the same thing, without installing a bunch of files on the host computer. Unless that executable, in addition to those files, added registry entries as well. Hummm... ms At 01:16 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: > par-0.942 includes the Perl Packager. It worked well for me, although >a very short script came out to a 1.3 meg .exe file. > >-Original Message- >From: Lynn, Tom >Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:14 AM >To: 'Michael D. Smith' >Subject: RE: PERL on a CD > >Why not just make your script an standalone executable program? > ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
RE: PERL on a CD
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Timothy Johnson wrote: > The only disadvantage to running Perl from a CD is that the file > associations would not be there, so you would have to prepend perl.exe > to your command-line to launch your script. > > perl myscript.pl > > Other than that, you can just copy your perl directory to a CD and run > it from any machine with a similar architecture. Please note that you are not allowed to copy ActivePerl on a CD and redistribute it outside your organization without a redistribution license from ActiveState. > If you're going to be > redistributing scripts a lot, though, it might be worth looking into > the Perl Dev Kit from ActiveState. You can package your scripts into > executables and redistribute them without having to worry if the > client has Perl installed or not. That is certainly a possibility. The ActivePerl license explicitly allows distribution of executables created by wrapping programs like PAR, PerlApp or Perl2Exe [1]. Of course we prefer that you choose PerlApp from the Perl Dev Kit. :) Cheers, -Jan [1] This is a newer clarification in the license that has been added recently, so it is not stated explicitly in older ActivePerl documentation. ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: PERL on a CD
The other option is to "compile" / package the Perl script into a stand alone executable -- which could then be readily run from a CD -- without having to address getting all of the Perl environment and path variables right. There are two solutions for "compiling" / packaging Perl scripts: (1) ActiveState's Perl Dev Kit -- which you must license for a fee and (2) PAR (Perl Archive Toolkit) which is an open source tool released on CPAN. PAR comes with a ulitilty, "PP" which will create a stand alone Win32 executable from a Perl script / Perl installation. For info on AS's Perl Dev Kit, see the following URL. http://www.activestate.com/Products/Perl_Dev_Kit/?mp=1 For info on PAR, see the follwing URLs. http://search.cpan.org/~smueller/PAR-0.942/lib/PAR.pm http://search.cpan.org/~smueller/PAR-0.942/script/pp You can get Win32 PPMs for *current versions* of PAR from Randy Kobes' U Winnipeg PPM repository and from the Bribes PPM repository. See the following. http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/ http://www.bribes.org/perl/ppm/ ActiveState's own repository seems to have problems with creating PPMs from the PAR CPAN distributions. My experience is that PPMs for new versions of PAR are routinely available on the Kobes and Bribes repositories within a few days of the release on CPAN. I intentionally quoted "complile" Perl script because ActiveState Perl Dev Kit and PAR are different. While both produce stand alone executables under Windows, I'm sure that Jan Dubois and the others at ActiveState can legitimately / correctly document how Perl Dev Kit produces much more optimized Win32 executables than does PAR / PP. In fact, the PP documentation states that it does not compile the source. It just bundles everything into a runtime executable. Regards, D. Dewey Allen "Michael D. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/25/2006 01:31 PM To cc Subject Re: PERL on a CD Is it possible to burn PERL and a script onto a CD and execute it from there without installing perl on the host computer? There would be nothing in the registry. The path to perl.exe would have to be included for the script to execute -- but beyond that, I'm a blank. Any thoughts appreciated. Actually, it would be unknown if PERL were installed on the host computer or not -- is there any way to check first? -- as it would definitely execute quicker off the hard drive than off a CD. TIA ms ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
RE: PERL on a CD
The only disadvantage to running Perl from a CD is that the file associations would not be there, so you would have to prepend perl.exe to your command-line to launch your script. perl myscript.pl Other than that, you can just copy your perl directory to a CD and run it from any machine with a similar architecture. If you're going to be redistributing scripts a lot, though, it might be worth looking into the Perl Dev Kit from ActiveState. You can package your scripts into executables and redistribute them without having to worry if the client has Perl installed or not. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael D. Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:32 AM To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com Subject: Re: PERL on a CD Is it possible to burn PERL and a script onto a CD and execute it from there without installing perl on the host computer? There would be nothing in the registry. The path to perl.exe would have to be included for the script to execute -- but beyond that, I'm a blank. Any thoughts appreciated. Actually, it would be unknown if PERL were installed on the host computer or not -- is there any way to check first? -- as it would definitely execute quicker off the hard drive than off a CD. TIA ms ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: PERL on a CD
Hi, Search with Google for "microweb". You will find that perl, php, MySQL and Apache can run from a CD, with no installation needed. Teddy - Original Message - From: "Michael D. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: PERL on a CD > > Is it possible to burn PERL and a script onto a CD and execute it from > there without installing perl on the host computer? > > There would be nothing in the registry. The path to perl.exe would have to > be included for the script to execute -- but beyond that, I'm a blank. > > Any thoughts appreciated. > > Actually, it would be unknown if PERL were installed on the host computer > or not -- is there any way to check first? -- as it would definitely > execute quicker off the hard drive than off a CD. > > TIA > > ms > > ___ > Perl-Win32-Users mailing list > Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com > To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
Re: PERL on a CD
Is it possible to burn PERL and a script onto a CD and execute it from there without installing perl on the host computer? There would be nothing in the registry. The path to perl.exe would have to be included for the script to execute -- but beyond that, I'm a blank. Any thoughts appreciated. Actually, it would be unknown if PERL were installed on the host computer or not -- is there any way to check first? -- as it would definitely execute quicker off the hard drive than off a CD. TIA ms ___ Perl-Win32-Users mailing list Perl-Win32-Users@listserv.ActiveState.com To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
