Re: [perl6/specs] 614b6f: doc with/without

2015-08-10 Thread yary
with, without look awesome.

-y

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, GitHub nore...@github.com wrote:

   Branch: refs/heads/master
   Home:   https://github.com/perl6/specs
   Commit: 614b6f36e1cae4c787e378bc6ab2afa1f86de1f0

 https://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/614b6f36e1cae4c787e378bc6ab2afa1f86de1f0
   Author: TimToady la...@wall.org
   Date:   2015-08-08 (Sat, 08 Aug 2015)

   Changed paths:
 M S04-control.pod

   Log Message:
   ---
   doc with/without





Re: [perl #125780] redefining $?FILE silently allowed

2015-08-10 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
Fixed with 571b4fab525d4ebf7e0f63c , closable with tests

 On 10 Aug 2015, at 14:48, Elizabeth Mattijsen (via RT) 
 perl6-bugs-follo...@perl.org wrote:
 
 # New Ticket Created by  Elizabeth Mattijsen 
 # Please include the string:  [perl #125780]
 # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. 
 # URL: https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=125780 
 
 
 [14:13:25]  azawawi $?FILE is not working as expected
 [14:13:48]  azawawi $?FILE is still refering to 
 /home/azawawi/perl6-electron/.panda-work/1439208484_1/lib/Electron/App.pm6
 [14:14:12]  azawawi which panda create, installed and deleted that temp 
 directory
 [14:14:18]  azawawi s/create/created
 [14:14:45]  lizmat  m: say $?FILE; { my $?FILE = foo; say $?FILE }
 [14:14:47]  +cameliarakudo-moar a32c14: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error 
 while compiling /tmp/jsbZpo1Blk␤Cannot use ? twigil on my variable␤at 
 /tmp/jsbZpo1Blk:1␤-- say $?FILE; { my $?FILE⏏ = foo; say $?FILE }␤»
 [14:14:56]  lizmat  m: say $?FILE; { my constant $?FILE = foo; say $?FILE 
 }
 [14:14:57]  +cameliarakudo-moar a32c14: 
 OUTPUT«/tmp/bMlCVlwet8␤/tmp/bMlCVlwet8␤»
 [14:15:04]  lizmat  hmmm
 [14:18:32]  azawawi lizmat: what's the point in having a compiled $?FILE 
 which panda totally ignores? :)
 [14:19:11]  azawawi my use case is that i need to find resources residing 
 in lib/Foo/resources directory
 [14:19:55]  lizmat  there's %RESOURCE specced for that, alas NYI
 [14:20:00]  lizmat  hmmm
 [14:20:26]  lizmat  m: say $?FILE; { my constant $?FILE = foo; say $?FILE 
 }   # actually feels like a bug
 [14:20:29]  +cameliarakudo-moar a32c14: 
 OUTPUT«/tmp/StJKSHy18K␤/tmp/StJKSHy18K␤»
 [14:21:03]  lizmat  and I guess $?FILE should really be more runtime...
 [14:21:14]  azawawi $*FILE ?
 [14:21:39]  azawawi like http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/__FILE__.html
 [14:22:42]  lizmat  yeah, but P5 doesn't have the concept of precomp, so 
 __FILE__ is always about the file that was just opened to be parsed
 [14:33:07]  jnthn   I'd say the bug is that constant $?FILE = ... doesn't 
 complain the way my $?FILE = ... does.
 [14:33:39]  jnthn   You shouldn't be able to declare $? things yourself, 
 they're special things for the compiler to resolve. And thus they're also 
 compile-time constants and frozen in pre-comp
 [14:34:05]  jnthn   And no, $?FILE should not become more runtime.
 [14:34:41]  azawawi jnthn: what about when panda compiles them in a temp 
 folder .panda-work and then installs them? :)
 [14:34:45]  lizmat  ok, I'll take that from there then
 [14:36:09]  jnthn   azawawi: As I understand it, it probably should be 
 giving the files to a CompUnitRepo object to install, and leaving pre-comp to 
 Rakudo, in which case it can copy the file in place and pre-comp it in place.
 [14:41:24]  lizmat  jnthn: eh, you should be able to define $?FOO yourself, 
 no?  just not redefine existing ones?
 [14:42:39]  jnthn   lizmat: I'm...not sure it makes a lot of sense to allow 
 that?
 [14:43:45]  lizmat  ok, so no userland $?vars then
 [14:44:03]  lizmat  I guess that'll make it easier to be sure to prevent 
 future collisions
 [14:44:24]  jnthn   Right, it means we'll easily be able to introduce new 
 ones in the future knowing only the compiler gets to set them
 



[perl #125782] Uncaught exceptions in start { } blocks get no backtrace when raised via await

2015-08-10 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by  Rob Hoelz 
# Please include the string:  [perl #125782]
# in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. 
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See the attached script.

The original backtrace of an exception seems to vanish when awaiting a Promise 
throws that exception.


[perl #125783] callsame does not work more than once (callsame; callsame; callsame;)

2015-08-10 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by  Alex Jakimenko 
# Please include the string:  [perl #125783]
# in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. 
# URL: https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=125783 


Code:
sub foo { say 'X' };
foo.wrap:{ callsame; callsame; callsame };
foo;

Result:
X

I expected this:
X
X
X


Another interesting code snippet:
sub foo { say 'X' };
foo.wrap:{ callsame; callsame; nextsame; say 'y' };
foo;

Which, surprisingly, prints this:
X
y


IRC log: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2015-08-10#i_11036336 and
http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2015-08-11#i_11036346


[perl #125784] Negative overflow in Str.index $startpos

2015-08-10 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by  Alex Jakimenko 
# Please include the string:  [perl #125784]
# in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. 
# URL: https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=125784 


Code:
say index 'xxy', 'y',
-999;
say index 'xxy', 'y',
-;

Result:
Nil
2


[perl #125771] Rakudo on OS X 10.6.8

2015-08-10 Thread Will Coleda via RT
On Sun Aug 09 20:09:50 2015, coke wrote:
 On Sun Aug 09 20:04:17 2015, coke wrote:
 
  If we're using autodie in the perl5 Configure script, that's an
  implicit dependency on 5.10.1 ; the declared dep is on 5.10.0,
  however.
 
  I'll update the scripts to make it explicit, but in the meantime,
  please try the build with a newer version of Perl 5.
 
  Regards.
 
 Looks like MoarVM was the only place this happened. The next Star
 release should include this bugfix - in the meantime, if you use a
 recent version of perl5, you should be fine.

Shortly after I did this, someone submitted a patch that removes the 
requirement for 5.10.1 and made it 5.10.0 compatible.

If you apply 
https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/e075ba6993c6296999bceca4a9415dc5e5f58a17
 to the copy of MoarVM shipped with Rakudo Star (ignoring the line that puts 
the version back to the original version, since you don't have that change), 
then you should be able to build with 5.10.0

Regards.
-- 
Will Coke Coleda


[perl #125780] redefining $?FILE silently allowed

2015-08-10 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by  Elizabeth Mattijsen 
# Please include the string:  [perl #125780]
# in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. 
# URL: https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=125780 


[14:13:25]  azawawi   $?FILE is not working as expected
[14:13:48]  azawawi   $?FILE is still refering to 
/home/azawawi/perl6-electron/.panda-work/1439208484_1/lib/Electron/App.pm6
[14:14:12]  azawawi   which panda create, installed and deleted that temp 
directory
[14:14:18]  azawawi   s/create/created
[14:14:45]  lizmatm: say $?FILE; { my $?FILE = foo; say $?FILE }
[14:14:47]  +camelia  rakudo-moar a32c14: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while 
compiling /tmp/jsbZpo1Blk␤Cannot use ? twigil on my variable␤at 
/tmp/jsbZpo1Blk:1␤-- say $?FILE; { my $?FILE⏏ = foo; say $?FILE }␤»
[14:14:56]  lizmatm: say $?FILE; { my constant $?FILE = foo; say $?FILE 
}
[14:14:57]  +camelia  rakudo-moar a32c14: 
OUTPUT«/tmp/bMlCVlwet8␤/tmp/bMlCVlwet8␤»
[14:15:04]  lizmathmmm
[14:18:32]  azawawi   lizmat: what's the point in having a compiled $?FILE 
which panda totally ignores? :)
[14:19:11]  azawawi   my use case is that i need to find resources residing 
in lib/Foo/resources directory
[14:19:55]  lizmatthere's %RESOURCE specced for that, alas NYI
[14:20:00]  lizmathmmm
[14:20:26]  lizmatm: say $?FILE; { my constant $?FILE = foo; say $?FILE 
}   # actually feels like a bug
[14:20:29]  +camelia  rakudo-moar a32c14: 
OUTPUT«/tmp/StJKSHy18K␤/tmp/StJKSHy18K␤»
[14:21:03]  lizmatand I guess $?FILE should really be more runtime...
[14:21:14]  azawawi   $*FILE ?
[14:21:39]  azawawi   like http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/__FILE__.html
[14:22:42]  lizmatyeah, but P5 doesn't have the concept of precomp, so 
__FILE__ is always about the file that was just opened to be parsed
[14:33:07]  jnthn I'd say the bug is that constant $?FILE = ... doesn't 
complain the way my $?FILE = ... does.
[14:33:39]  jnthn You shouldn't be able to declare $? things yourself, 
they're special things for the compiler to resolve. And thus they're also 
compile-time constants and frozen in pre-comp
[14:34:05]  jnthn And no, $?FILE should not become more runtime.
[14:34:41]  azawawi   jnthn: what about when panda compiles them in a temp 
folder .panda-work and then installs them? :)
[14:34:45]  lizmatok, I'll take that from there then
[14:36:09]  jnthn azawawi: As I understand it, it probably should be 
giving the files to a CompUnitRepo object to install, and leaving pre-comp to 
Rakudo, in which case it can copy the file in place and pre-comp it in place.
[14:41:24]  lizmatjnthn: eh, you should be able to define $?FOO yourself, 
no?  just not redefine existing ones?
[14:42:39]  jnthn lizmat: I'm...not sure it makes a lot of sense to allow 
that?
[14:43:45]  lizmatok, so no userland $?vars then
[14:44:03]  lizmatI guess that'll make it easier to be sure to prevent 
future collisions
[14:44:24]  jnthn Right, it means we'll easily be able to introduce new 
ones in the future knowing only the compiler gets to set them