Re: [PestList] How is everyone sealing up storage boxes from pests? Storage isolation bag supplier?

2020-10-09 Thread jmcin...@famsf.org 
Thanks, Rachel!

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 10:08:52 AM UTC-7 rachaelarenstein wrote:

> Hi Julie,
> Bill Smith of Heritage Packaging is a U.S. vendor who has been working 
> with a number of participants in the MuseumPests Working Group on various 
> projects so he has a good sense of what our goals are in using barrier 
> films. You can find contact information at
> https://www.heritagepackaging.com/general/company/about-us
>
> Best,
> Rachael
>
> Rachael Perkins Arenstein
> A.M. Art Conservation, LLC
> rac...@amartconservation.com
> www.amartconservation.com
>
>
>

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Re: [PestList] How is everyone sealing up storage boxes from pests? Storage isolation bag supplier?

2020-10-08 Thread Rachael Arenstein 
Hi Julie,
Bill Smith of Heritage Packaging is a U.S. vendor who has been working with
a number of participants in the MuseumPests Working Group on various
projects so he has a good sense of what our goals are in using barrier
films. You can find contact information at
https://www.heritagepackaging.com/general/company/about-us

Best,
Rachael

Rachael Perkins Arenstein
A.M. Art Conservation, LLC
rach...@amartconservation.com
www.amartconservation.com

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Re: [PestList] How is everyone sealing up storage boxes from pests? Storage isolation bag supplier?

2020-10-07 Thread Stephan Biebl 
Hi Julie,

you can look for some pictures of different films at
Long Life for Art (from Germany)

https://llfa.de/folien-und-beutel.html

Mobil from iPhone

Best Stephan

Stephan Biebl
Ingenieurbüro für Holzschutz
83671 Benediktbeuern
Germany
www.holzwurmfluesterer.de

Am 08.10.2020 um 04:23 schrieb "jmcin...@famsf.org" :

Hi Alex,

Interesting! What material are the barrier bags made of? I did a quick google 
search and see that term used fairly loosely. Is there a manufacturer you go to?

Julie

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-7 Alex Roach wrote:
Hi Julie
We've found that sealing objects in pe can actually increase problems, as the 
object's 'smell' can build up and create an even bigger attraction to pests 
(sort of like the pheromone from hell).
We've been sealing objects in barrier bags, either with a heat sealer or a 
dead-fold as you've described. The barrier bags don't allow the odour to 
escape, making the object 'invisible' to bugs, or those pests relying on smell 
anyway.
Best wishes
Alex


Alex Roach
Director
Modified Atmospheres
M: 0414 663 472
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 10:18, jmci...@famsf.org  wrote:
Hello, Pestlist

Hope you all are well.

I am beginning a project of adding an extra layer of protection between pests 
(specifically moths) and our high-danger collections.

Storage boxes are generally made of corrugated plastic sheeting, and 
historically we have taped the seams. However, this is time consuming and 
creates a messy looking box after repeated opening and sealing.

Now, we are looking at placing these boxes inside of large plastic bags, and 
rolling the open end tightly up against itself, then clamping, to create a 
hopefully insect-proof seal.

Is this a technique anyone here is familiar with or perfected? I'd love to hear 
advice. Is anyone making the bags (sealing their own with heat perhaps) to 
custom size? Is there a retailer of plastic bags (square bottomed preferred) in 
various sizes that can be recommended?

Any tips or suggestions appreciated. Feel free to reach out directly.

Best,

Julie McInnis
jmci...@famsf.org
Collection Care Specialist
Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco

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Re: [PestList] How is everyone sealing up storage boxes from pests? Storage isolation bag supplier?

2020-10-07 Thread Alex Roach 
Hi Julie
They’re a laminate material, typically a barrier layer (i.e. biaxially
oriented nylon, aluminum) sandwiched between a heat-sealable film.
Try searching for companies selling cryovac or film for use in food
manufacturing.
Best wishes
Alex

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM jmcin...@famsf.org 
wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Interesting! What material are the barrier bags made of? I did a quick
> google search and see that term used fairly loosely. Is there a
> manufacturer you go to?
>
> Julie
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-7 Alex Roach wrote:
>
>> Hi Julie
>> We've found that sealing objects in pe can actually increase problems, as
>> the object's 'smell' can build up and create an even bigger attraction to
>> pests (sort of like the pheromone from hell).
>> We've been sealing objects in barrier bags, either with a heat sealer or
>> a dead-fold as you've described. The barrier bags don't allow the odour to
>> escape, making the object 'invisible' to bugs, or those pests relying on
>> smell anyway.
>> Best wishes
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> *Alex Roach*
>> *Director*
>> Modified Atmospheres
>> *M:* 0414 663 472
>> ABN: 66 164 577 557
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 10:18, jmci...@famsf.org  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Pestlist
>>>
>>> Hope you all are well.
>>>
>>> I am beginning a project of adding an extra layer of protection between
>>> pests (specifically moths) and our high-danger collections.
>>>
>>> Storage boxes are generally made of corrugated plastic sheeting, and
>>> historically we have taped the seams. However, this is time consuming and
>>> creates a messy looking box after repeated opening and sealing.
>>>
>>> Now, we are looking at placing these boxes inside of large plastic bags,
>>> and rolling the open end tightly up against itself, then clamping, to
>>> create a hopefully insect-proof seal.
>>>
>>> Is this a technique anyone here is familiar with or perfected? I'd love
>>> to hear advice. Is anyone making the bags (sealing their own with heat
>>> perhaps) to custom size? Is there a retailer of plastic bags (square
>>> bottomed preferred) in various sizes that can be recommended?
>>>
>>> Any tips or suggestions appreciated. Feel free to reach out directly.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Julie McInnis
>>> jmci...@famsf.org
>>> Collection Care Specialist
>>> Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco
>>>
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Re: [PestList] How is everyone sealing up storage boxes from pests? Storage isolation bag supplier?

2020-10-07 Thread jmcin...@famsf.org 
Hi Alex,

Interesting! What material are the barrier bags made of? I did a quick 
google search and see that term used fairly loosely. Is there a 
manufacturer you go to?

Julie

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-7 Alex Roach wrote:

> Hi Julie
> We've found that sealing objects in pe can actually increase problems, as 
> the object's 'smell' can build up and create an even bigger attraction to 
> pests (sort of like the pheromone from hell).
> We've been sealing objects in barrier bags, either with a heat sealer or a 
> dead-fold as you've described. The barrier bags don't allow the odour to 
> escape, making the object 'invisible' to bugs, or those pests relying on 
> smell anyway.
> Best wishes
> Alex
>
>
> *Alex Roach*
> *Director*
> Modified Atmospheres
> *M:* 0414 663 472
> ABN: 66 164 577 557
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 10:18, jmci...@famsf.org  wrote:
>
>> Hello, Pestlist
>>
>> Hope you all are well.
>>
>> I am beginning a project of adding an extra layer of protection between 
>> pests (specifically moths) and our high-danger collections. 
>>
>> Storage boxes are generally made of corrugated plastic sheeting, and 
>> historically we have taped the seams. However, this is time consuming and 
>> creates a messy looking box after repeated opening and sealing. 
>>
>> Now, we are looking at placing these boxes inside of large plastic bags, 
>> and rolling the open end tightly up against itself, then clamping, to 
>> create a hopefully insect-proof seal.
>>
>> Is this a technique anyone here is familiar with or perfected? I'd love 
>> to hear advice. Is anyone making the bags (sealing their own with heat 
>> perhaps) to custom size? Is there a retailer of plastic bags (square 
>> bottomed preferred) in various sizes that can be recommended?
>>
>> Any tips or suggestions appreciated. Feel free to reach out directly.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Julie McInnis
>> jmci...@famsf.org
>> Collection Care Specialist
>> Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco
>>
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>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
> -- 
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> *Director*
> Modified Atmospheres
> *M:* 0414 663 472
> ABN: 66 164 577 557
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Re: [PestList] How is everyone sealing up storage boxes from pests? Storage isolation bag supplier?

2020-10-07 Thread Alex Roach 
Hi Julie
We've found that sealing objects in pe can actually increase problems, as
the object's 'smell' can build up and create an even bigger attraction to
pests (sort of like the pheromone from hell).
We've been sealing objects in barrier bags, either with a heat sealer or a
dead-fold as you've described. The barrier bags don't allow the odour to
escape, making the object 'invisible' to bugs, or those pests relying on
smell anyway.
Best wishes
Alex


*Alex Roach*
*Director*
Modified Atmospheres
*M:* 0414 663 472
ABN: 66 164 577 557


On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 10:18, jmcin...@famsf.org  wrote:

> Hello, Pestlist
>
> Hope you all are well.
>
> I am beginning a project of adding an extra layer of protection between
> pests (specifically moths) and our high-danger collections.
>
> Storage boxes are generally made of corrugated plastic sheeting, and
> historically we have taped the seams. However, this is time consuming and
> creates a messy looking box after repeated opening and sealing.
>
> Now, we are looking at placing these boxes inside of large plastic bags,
> and rolling the open end tightly up against itself, then clamping, to
> create a hopefully insect-proof seal.
>
> Is this a technique anyone here is familiar with or perfected? I'd love to
> hear advice. Is anyone making the bags (sealing their own with heat
> perhaps) to custom size? Is there a retailer of plastic bags (square
> bottomed preferred) in various sizes that can be recommended?
>
> Any tips or suggestions appreciated. Feel free to reach out directly.
>
> Best,
>
> Julie McInnis
> jmcin...@famsf.org
> Collection Care Specialist
> Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco
>
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>
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