[ADMIN] Postgressql backup/restore question

2009-03-04 Thread samana srikanth
Hi all

Can we do a point-in-time restore of a single database out of n databases??.
--
I have 5 databases in the postgresql server.

I have taken full-backup of the entire data directory (/opt/postgresql/data)
and individual dumps also (for safety).
then i have taken all the log files till now.
Now, the server is crashed.

Is there anyway to restore only 1 database out of total 5 database to
particular point-in-time. (similar to Mysql)

I have individual dumps of each database and all corresponding log files
from that time.
Can i selectively restore the databases.

Can I use dump files + log files to restore the databases.
-

Please help me in this regards


Thanks
Srikanth


Re: [ADMIN] Postgressql backup/restore question

2009-03-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut

samana srikanth wrote:

Can we do a point-in-time restore of a single database out of n
databases??.


In principle no.  But you could invent workarounds such as recovering to 
the point where you are happy with your restored one database, and then 
restore the other n-1 databases from an SQL dump.



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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Carol Walter
The users are accessing the database using PhpPgAdmin.  I thought that  
this might happen if they closed the browser without closing logging  
off.  I know that if you do that the browser will return to where you  
left it, when you open it again.  I tried that with my own database,  
and I couldn't reproduce the condition.


Carol

On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote:


Carol Walter walt...@indiana.edu writes:

I'm not sure I understand.  If there is a lag time between when
someone exits the database and when the database knows that no one
is still in it, then that shouldn't be the problem here.  I tried a
number of time over the course of 24 hours to rename the database and
it always reported that the database was in use.  No one was logged  
in

but me, but the database still reported that the database was in use.


Hmph.  Are you sure nothing was connected?  One thing that frequently
trips people up here is uncommitted prepared transactions --- look in
pg_prepared_xacts.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Carol Walter

I'm using psql from the command line.  Doing an ALTER DATABASE command.

Carol

On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:36 AM, Julius Tuskenis wrote:


Hello, Carol.

how exactly are you trying to change the DB name? In console or  
using some management tool like pgAdmin?



Carol Walter rašė:
Periodically, my databases will give me a message that says that  
someone is using the database when it appears that no one is.  What  
causes this?  What can I do about it?


Thanks,
Carol





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Re: [ADMIN] getting 'full' names of functions?

2009-03-04 Thread Jan-Peter . Seifert
Hello Ashish, Hello Tom,

thank you very much for your quick and helpful replies - I really appreciate 
that.

  May be this will help you:
 
 Easier is just
   select oid::regprocedure from pg_proc where whatever

I guess I'll go with the very nifty type cast suggested by Tom though as this 
covers aggregate functions as well. This possibility should be mentioned in the 
docs - together with the system information functions 
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/functions-info.html

Too bad that this function syntax isn't part of information_schema.

Thank you very much to both of you.

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Re: [ADMIN] Backing up postgresql database

2009-03-04 Thread Kevin Grittner
 Jakov Sosic jakov.so...@srce.hr wrote: 
 How do you mean, do fewer updates?
 
Well, without knowing the application it's hard for me to say; but, as
a guess, perhaps the application could be modified to accumulate, say,
a minute's worth of data and update it in summary, rather than
updating each sample once per second.  That would leave you vulnerable
to losing up to a minute's worth of data, but would cut the rate of
WAL generation to less than 2% of its current rate.
 
 And what do you mean by keeping WAL's for less time?
 
Do base backups more frequently.  If you need to keep more than two
base backup's worth, only keep snapshots of older backups -- just
the base and enough WAL files to cover the range specified in the
*.backup file generated by the start and stop functions run during the
base backup.
 
 I've read about gziping WAL's, and I will do it offcourse, but that
 only makes problem a little smaller, doesn't solve it :)
 
Well, cutting the scope of a problem by two thirds is sometimes
enough.  If you combine that with the summary updates mentioned above,
you might reduce the space needed to store WAL files to less than 1%
of current requirements.  Judicious use of the snapshot technique
could let you keep a few snapshots going back 90 days and only require
a small fraction of 1% of what you're thinking it will take based on
current numbers.
 
-Kevin

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Carol Walter
That's interesting and is probably the answer to my question as to why  
this happens.  Thanks, Nick.  What it doesn't explain is why I was  
able to connect to a test database using PhpPgAdmin and close the  
browser, without logging out, and I was able to rename my test  
database.  I couldn't reproduce the behavior.  I wonder if it is a  
property of the particular browser or desktop platform.  I was using  
Firefox on a Mac.  The users use Windows.  I'm not sure which browser  
they are using.


I also still want to know if there is a way to gracefully break that  
persistent connection on the server side.  Using a PHP front end over  
the web, I don't always know who has a browser open.


Thanks,
Carol

On Mar 4, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Hajek, Nick wrote:



The users are accessing the database using PhpPgAdmin.  I
thought that this might happen if they closed the browser
without closing logging off.  I know that if you do that the
browser will return to where you left it, when you open it
again.  I tried that with my own database, and I couldn't
reproduce the condition.

Carol



A persistent connection is often used with PHP.  With this, PHP will
maintain the connection after a browser is closed or a user is logged
off so that the next time a db connection is required, the response  
time
is better.  To break any persistent connections would require  
restarting

the browser.

Nick Hajek



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[ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Stell
Testing pg_standby in 8.3.6.  I've gotten this standby into some sort of 
bind.  It seems like it may be waiting for some WAL.   How can I tell
what it is waiting on?  I don't really know how this works, so I may 

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Re: [ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:06 -0500, Ray Stell wrote:
 Testing pg_standby in 8.3.6.  I've gotten this standby into some sort of 
 bind.  It seems like it may be waiting for some WAL.   How can I tell
 what it is waiting on?  I don't really know how this works, so I may 


Looks like you were cut off a bit. What do the logs say and your ps
output on the standby?

Joshua D. Drake


 
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Re: [ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Stell
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:06:12PM -0500, Ray Stell wrote:
 Testing pg_standby in 8.3.6.  I've gotten this standby into some sort of 
 bind.  It seems like it may be waiting for some WAL.   How can I tell
 what it is waiting on?  I don't really know how this works, so I may 


say something silly.  The standby log says:

,2512,,2009-03-04 12:23:01.483 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,1,2009-03-04 12:23:01 EST,0, 
LOG:  database system was interrupted; last known up at 2009-03-04 12:20:29 EST
,2512,,2009-03-04 12:23:01.483 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,2,2009-03-04 12:23:01 EST,0, 
LOG:  starting archive recovery
,2512,,2009-03-04 12:23:01.484 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,3,2009-03-04 12:23:01 EST,0, 
LOG:  restore_command = '/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby  
/data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp %f %p %r  
/home/postgresql/log/alerts_oamp/recovery.log'


alerts_oamp]$ cat postmaster.pid 
2510
/data/pgsql/alerts_oamp
  5498001   4194312

alerts_oamp]$ ps -ef | grep 1005
1005   903   901  0 10:10 ?00:00:00 sshd: postgre...@pts/0
1005   904   903  0 10:10 pts/000:00:00 -bash
1005  1016  1013  0 10:21 ?00:00:00 sshd: postgre...@pts/1
1005  1017  1016  0 10:21 pts/100:00:00 -bash
1005  2510 1  0 12:23 pts/000:00:00 
/usr/local/pgsql836/bin/postgres -D /data/pgsql/alerts_oamp
1005  2511  2510  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 postgres: logger process
   
1005  2512  2510  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 postgres: startup process   
   
1005  2520  2512  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 sh -c 
/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby  /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp 
0002001C.00512178.backup pg_xlog/RECOVERYHISTORY 
  /home/postgresql/log/alerts_oamp/recovery.log
1005  2521  2520  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby 
/data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp 0002001C.00512178.backup 
pg_xlog/RECOVERYHISTORY 
1005  2615  1017  0 12:27 pts/100:00:00 tail -f 
alerts_oamp-2009-03-04_122301.log
1005  3271   904  0 15:11 pts/000:00:00 ps -ef
1005  3272   904  0 15:11 pts/000:00:00 grep 1005

alerts_oamp]$ ls -l /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp/
total 114828
-rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 11:28 
0002001A
-rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 11:29 
0002001B
-rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 12:24 
0002001C
-rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 12:25 
0002001D
-rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 12:26 
0002001E
-rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 14:45 
0002001F
-rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 14:45 
00020020

any ideas what this guy is hurt by?

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Re: [ADMIN] Postgressql backup/restore question

2009-03-04 Thread Simon Riggs

On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:59 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
 samana srikanth wrote:
  Can we do a point-in-time restore of a single database out of n
  databases??.
 
 In principle no.  But you could invent workarounds such as recovering to 
 the point where you are happy with your restored one database, and then 
 restore the other n-1 databases from an SQL dump.

It is possible, but we just don't currently support it.

My submission on rmgr plugins would have provided this feature though it
was rejected as not wanted.

I have code hooks required to do this, if people want to contact me
off-list.

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Re: [ADMIN] getting 'full' names of functions?

2009-03-04 Thread Jan-Peter . Seifert
Hello Ashish, Hello Tom,

  before I reinvent the wheel I'd like to know whether there's a shortcut
 for getting the 'full' name (incl. argtypes) of the functions within a
 database in order to REVOKE priviliges on them given to certain users.

I combined your suggestions into this query I'll be using for now:

SELECT DISTINCT n.nspname || '.' || p.oid::regprocedure::text FROM 
pg_catalog.pg_proc p LEFT JOIN pg_catalog.pg_namespace n ON n.oid = 
p.pronamespace WHERE pg_catalog.pg_function_is_visible(p.oid) AND nspname !~* 
'^pg_' AND nspname != 'information_schema';

Thank you very much again,

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Re: [ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Simon Riggs

On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:14 -0500, Ray Stell wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:06:12PM -0500, Ray Stell wrote:
  Testing pg_standby in 8.3.6.  I've gotten this standby into some sort of 
  bind.  It seems like it may be waiting for some WAL.   How can I tell
  what it is waiting on?  I don't really know how this works, so I may 
 
 
 say something silly.  The standby log says:
 
 ,2512,,2009-03-04 12:23:01.483 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,1,2009-03-04 12:23:01 EST,0, 
 LOG:  database system was interrupted; last known up at 2009-03-04 12:20:29 
 EST
 ,2512,,2009-03-04 12:23:01.483 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,2,2009-03-04 12:23:01 EST,0, 
 LOG:  starting archive recovery
 ,2512,,2009-03-04 12:23:01.484 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,3,2009-03-04 12:23:01 EST,0, 
 LOG:  restore_command = '/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby  
 /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp %f %p %r  
 /home/postgresql/log/alerts_oamp/recovery.log'

You've set archive_timeout?

http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/runtime-config-wal.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-WAL-ARCHIVING

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Re: [ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Stell

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 08:31:16PM +, Simon Riggs wrote:
 You've set archive_timeout?
 

no, but new WAL files seem to be getting created and replicated to the standby, 
just the pg_standby
command seems snagged on something.   I probably have done something dumb, 
ready, fire, aim.  I'm 
more interested in how to analyze the state.  Thanks.

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Re: [ADMIN] Postgressql backup/restore question

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Lane
Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
 On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:59 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
 samana srikanth wrote:
 Can we do a point-in-time restore of a single database out of n
 databases??.
 
 In principle no.  But you could invent workarounds such as recovering to 
 the point where you are happy with your restored one database, and then 
 restore the other n-1 databases from an SQL dump.

 It is possible, but we just don't currently support it.

It's not as easy as all that.  What will you do with updates to shared
catalogs?

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] getting 'full' names of functions?

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Lane
jan-peter.seif...@gmx.de writes:
 I combined your suggestions into this query I'll be using for now:

 SELECT DISTINCT n.nspname || '.' || p.oid::regprocedure::text FROM

This is flat *wrong*, as you'll soon find if you are working with
functions in more than one schema.  regprocedure already puts a
schema qualification on the name if one is needed.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] Postgressql backup/restore question

2009-03-04 Thread Simon Riggs

On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:37 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
 Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
  On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:59 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
  samana srikanth wrote:
  Can we do a point-in-time restore of a single database out of n
  databases??.
  
  In principle no.  But you could invent workarounds such as recovering to 
  the point where you are happy with your restored one database, and then 
  restore the other n-1 databases from an SQL dump.
 
  It is possible, but we just don't currently support it.
 
 It's not as easy as all that.  What will you do with updates to shared
 catalogs?

Apply them.

So: its possible to do shared catalogs plus a subset of other databases.
I was assuming that updates to shared catalogs were small overall.

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[ADMIN] postgres: stats collector process

2009-03-04 Thread Leticia Larrosa
Hello

 

I want to see statistics about the use of my postgresql 8.3 in Ubuntu 8.04.1
(Hardy) Server. The package installed is
http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/postgresql
http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/postgresql

 

The statistic in this version of postgres are by default enabled, but I
didn't see that the process postgres: stats collector process as say in
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/monitoring-ps.html
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/s...toring-ps.html is running in my
server.

 

Thanks in advanced.

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Re: [ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Yauheni Labko
For some reason it is looking for 0002001C.00512178.backup 
file which is not the WAL file.
 
Are you sure that you made initial recovery properly?

Yauheni Labko (Eugene Lobko)
Junior System Administrator
Chapdelaine  Co.
(212)208-9150


On Wednesday 04 March 2009 03:14:51 pm Ray Stell wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:06:12PM -0500, Ray Stell wrote:
  Testing pg_standby in 8.3.6.  I've gotten this standby into some sort of
  bind.  It seems like it may be waiting for some WAL.   How can I tell
  what it is waiting on?  I don't really know how this works, so I may

 say something silly.  The standby log says:

 ,2512,,2009-03-04 12:23:01.483 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,1,2009-03-04 12:23:01
 EST,0, LOG:  database system was interrupted; last known up at 2009-03-04
 12:20:29 EST ,2512,,2009-03-04 12:23:01.483 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,2,2009-03-04
 12:23:01 EST,0, LOG:  starting archive recovery ,2512,,2009-03-04
 12:23:01.484 EST,49aeb8f5.9d0,3,2009-03-04 12:23:01 EST,0, LOG: 
 restore_command = '/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby 
 /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp %f %p %r 
 /home/postgresql/log/alerts_oamp/recovery.log'


 alerts_oamp]$ cat postmaster.pid
 2510
 /data/pgsql/alerts_oamp
   5498001   4194312

 alerts_oamp]$ ps -ef | grep 1005
 1005   903   901  0 10:10 ?00:00:00 sshd: postgre...@pts/0
 1005   904   903  0 10:10 pts/000:00:00 -bash
 1005  1016  1013  0 10:21 ?00:00:00 sshd: postgre...@pts/1
 1005  1017  1016  0 10:21 pts/100:00:00 -bash
 1005  2510 1  0 12:23 pts/000:00:00
 /usr/local/pgsql836/bin/postgres -D /data/pgsql/alerts_oamp 1005  2511 
 2510  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 postgres: logger process 1005  2512 
 2510  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 postgres: startup process 1005  2520 
 2512  0 12:23 ?00:00:00 sh -c /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby 
 /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp 0002001C.00512178.backup
 pg_xlog/RECOVERYHISTORY  
 /home/postgresql/log/alerts_oamp/recovery.log 1005  2521  2520  0 12:23
 ?00:00:00 /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby
 /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp 0002001C.00512178.backup
 pg_xlog/RECOVERYHISTORY  1005  2615  1017  0
 12:27 pts/100:00:00 tail -f alerts_oamp-2009-03-04_122301.log 1005 
 3271   904  0 15:11 pts/000:00:00 ps -ef
 1005  3272   904  0 15:11 pts/000:00:00 grep 1005

 alerts_oamp]$ ls -l /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp/
 total 114828
 -rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 11:28
 0002001A -rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4
 11:29 0002001B -rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216
 Mar  4 12:24 0002001C -rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql
 16777216 Mar  4 12:25 0002001D -rw--- 1 postgresql
 postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 12:26 0002001E -rw--- 1
 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 14:45 0002001F
 -rw--- 1 postgresql postgresql 16777216 Mar  4 14:45
 00020020

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Re: [ADMIN] Postgressql backup/restore question

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Lane
Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
 On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:37 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
 It's not as easy as all that.  What will you do with updates to shared
 catalogs?

 Apply them.

... which leaves your other databases in inconsistent states.

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Re: [ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Ray Stell
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:41:06PM -0500, Yauheni Labko wrote:
 For some reason it is looking for 0002001C.00512178.backup 
 file which is not the WAL file.
  
 Are you sure that you made initial recovery properly?

I could have fouled this in any number of ways.  Like I said
I'm trying to understand how to analyze the situation and maybe
learn something.

OK, so my recovery.conf is set like this:

restore_command='/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby  /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp 
%f %p %r  /home/postgresql/log/alerts_oamp/recovery.log'

So, the %f arg sent to the pg_standby command has a value of
0002001C.00512178.backup, right?  Is that wrong?
If so, where could that have come from or how could I have trashed
the thing.  

I love fishing.

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Carol Walter
This has happened or is happening to me again, only this time, it's a  
database that I just created.  I restored another database into a test  
database.  One of the tables is empty.  I want to drop the test  
database and create a new one.  When I try to drop the test database,  
I get this error -

template1=# drop database km_tezt;
ERROR:  database km_tezt is being accessed by other users

template1=# select * from pg_prepared_xacts;
 transaction | gid | prepared | owner | database
-+-+--+---+--
(0 rows)

This database is one that I created just a few hours ago just to test  
some things myself.  There can be no one in it except me.  I  
completely closed out of the database, closed out of the system, and  
closed my terminal session.  Still I get the error.  This time the  
database has not been accessed through PHP at all.


Carol

On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote:


Carol Walter walt...@indiana.edu writes:

I'm not sure I understand.  If there is a lag time between when
someone exits the database and when the database knows that no one
is still in it, then that shouldn't be the problem here.  I tried a
number of time over the course of 24 hours to rename the database and
it always reported that the database was in use.  No one was logged  
in

but me, but the database still reported that the database was in use.


Hmph.  Are you sure nothing was connected?  One thing that frequently
trips people up here is uncommitted prepared transactions --- look in
pg_prepared_xacts.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread John Lister
Have you got any copies of psql or tools like pgadmin open. I've been 
caught out by this. try


select * from pg_stat_activity

it should tell you what connections are open on the table (look at the 
datname column)



Carol Walter wrote:
This has happened or is happening to me again, only this time, it's a 
database that I just created.  I restored another database into a test 
database.  One of the tables is empty.  I want to drop the test 
database and create a new one.  When I try to drop the test database, 
I get this error -

template1=# drop database km_tezt;
ERROR:  database km_tezt is being accessed by other users

template1=# select * from pg_prepared_xacts;
 transaction | gid | prepared | owner | database
-+-+--+---+--
(0 rows)

This database is one that I created just a few hours ago just to test 
some things myself.  There can be no one in it except me.  I 
completely closed out of the database, closed out of the system, and 
closed my terminal session.  Still I get the error.  This time the 
database has not been accessed through PHP at all.


Carol

On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote:


Carol Walter walt...@indiana.edu writes:

I'm not sure I understand.  If there is a lag time between when
someone exits the database and when the database knows that no one
is still in it, then that shouldn't be the problem here.  I tried a
number of time over the course of 24 hours to rename the database and
it always reported that the database was in use.  No one was logged in
but me, but the database still reported that the database was in use.


Hmph.  Are you sure nothing was connected?  One thing that frequently
trips people up here is uncommitted prepared transactions --- look in
pg_prepared_xacts.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Lane
Carol Walter walt...@indiana.edu writes:
 This has happened or is happening to me again, only this time, it's a  
 database that I just created.  I restored another database into a test  
 database.  One of the tables is empty.  I want to drop the test  
 database and create a new one.  When I try to drop the test database,  
 I get this error -
 template1=# drop database km_tezt;
 ERROR:  database km_tezt is being accessed by other users

 template1=# select * from pg_prepared_xacts;
   transaction | gid | prepared | owner | database
 -+-+--+---+--
 (0 rows)

Nothing in pg_stat_activity either?

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Carol Walter walt...@indiana.edu wrote:
 This has happened or is happening to me again, only this time, it's a
 database that I just created.  I restored another database into a test
 database.  One of the tables is empty.  I want to drop the test database and
 create a new one.  When I try to drop the test database, I get this error -
 template1=# drop database km_tezt;
 ERROR:  database km_tezt is being accessed by other users

 template1=# select * from pg_prepared_xacts;
  transaction | gid | prepared | owner | database
 -+-+--+---+--
 (0 rows)

What does select * from pg_stat_activity say about this db?

 This database is one that I created just a few hours ago just to test some
 things myself.  There can be no one in it except me.  I completely closed

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that enough  ((just you) to cause
the drop database to fail?

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Carol Walter
I had forgotten that I had used Aqua Data Studio to draw ERD's for  
this test database.  Even though, I closed it, it still had the  
database open.  When I reopened it, and did a disconnect, if allowed  
me to drop the database.


Thanks,

Carol

On Mar 4, 2009, at 4:45 PM, John Lister wrote:

Have you got any copies of psql or tools like pgadmin open. I've  
been caught out by this. try


select * from pg_stat_activity

it should tell you what connections are open on the table (look at  
the datname column)



Carol Walter wrote:
This has happened or is happening to me again, only this time, it's  
a database that I just created.  I restored another database into a  
test database.  One of the tables is empty.  I want to drop the  
test database and create a new one.  When I try to drop the test  
database, I get this error -

template1=# drop database km_tezt;
ERROR:  database km_tezt is being accessed by other users

template1=# select * from pg_prepared_xacts;
transaction | gid | prepared | owner | database
-+-+--+---+--
(0 rows)

This database is one that I created just a few hours ago just to  
test some things myself.  There can be no one in it except me.  I  
completely closed out of the database, closed out of the system,  
and closed my terminal session.  Still I get the error.  This time  
the database has not been accessed through PHP at all.


Carol

On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote:


Carol Walter walt...@indiana.edu writes:

I'm not sure I understand.  If there is a lag time between when
someone exits the database and when the database knows that no  
one

is still in it, then that shouldn't be the problem here.  I tried a
number of time over the course of 24 hours to rename the database  
and
it always reported that the database was in use.  No one was  
logged in
but me, but the database still reported that the database was in  
use.


Hmph.  Are you sure nothing was connected?  One thing that  
frequently
trips people up here is uncommitted prepared transactions --- look  
in

pg_prepared_xacts.

   regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Yauheni Labko
No. %f is the WAL filename which is needed by the server to start recovery.  
0002001C.00512178.backup will give you start and end of WAL 
segment, the WAL filename containing this segment and your label to identify 
where it might be. That's why I asked you about your backup.

What is the archive_command for primary server?


Yauheni Labko (Eugene Lobko)
Junior System Administrator
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(212)208-9150


On Wednesday 04 March 2009 04:35:00 pm you wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:41:06PM -0500, Yauheni Labko wrote:
  For some reason it is looking for
  0002001C.00512178.backup file which is not the WAL file.
 
  Are you sure that you made initial recovery properly?

 I could have fouled this in any number of ways.  Like I said
 I'm trying to understand how to analyze the situation and maybe
 learn something.

 OK, so my recovery.conf is set like this:

 restore_command='/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_standby 
 /data/pgsql/wals/alerts_oamp %f %p %r 
 /home/postgresql/log/alerts_oamp/recovery.log'

 So, the %f arg sent to the pg_standby command has a value of
 0002001C.00512178.backup, right?  Is that wrong?
 If so, where could that have come from or how could I have trashed
 the thing.

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Carol Walter


On Mar 4, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote:

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Carol Walter walt...@indiana.edu  
wrote:

This has happened or is happening to me again, only this time, it's a
database that I just created.  I restored another database into a  
test
database.  One of the tables is empty.  I want to drop the test  
database and
create a new one.  When I try to drop the test database, I get this  
error -

template1=# drop database km_tezt;
ERROR:  database km_tezt is being accessed by other users

template1=# select * from pg_prepared_xacts;
 transaction | gid | prepared | owner | database
-+-+--+---+--
(0 rows)


What does select * from pg_stat_activity say about this db?

This database is one that I created just a few hours ago just to  
test some
things myself.  There can be no one in it except me.  I completely  
closed


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that enough  ((just you) to cause
the drop database to fail?

Yes, of course, just me is enough for it to fail.  I thought that I  
wasn't in it, either. That's what I meant.  As it turned out, I was in  
it, having used Aqua Data Studio to draw an ERD.  Everything worked  
after I got back into Aqua Data and disconnected from the database.  I  
was able to drop the database.


I still have my original question though.  Is there a graceful way to  
close all connections to a database from the server side.  I'm in an  
academic environment and I can count on people not writing bad code.   
I don't want it to close down in the midst of someone's query, but I  
would like to be able to disconnect users if the aren't running  
queries.  We have regular system maintenance on Friday evenings.   
Currently, the only way I have to break these connections is to stop  
the database.  That stops it for all databases, when only one may be  
the problem.  I would like to be able to do this when there is a  
problem with a database and not have to wait until my scheduled  
maintenance.

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Re: [ADMIN] Postgressql backup/restore question

2009-03-04 Thread Simon Riggs

On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 16:27 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
 Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
  On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:37 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
  It's not as easy as all that.  What will you do with updates to shared
  catalogs?
 
  Apply them.
 
 ... which leaves your other databases in inconsistent states.

Which is not a problem if you didn't want to restore them in the first
place. You might complain that we would need safeguards to protect
people from trying to access non-restored databases and then failing to
understand why they aren't there. 

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Re: [ADMIN] Postgressql backup/restore question

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Lane
Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
 On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 16:27 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
 Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
 On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 15:37 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
 It's not as easy as all that.  What will you do with updates to shared
 catalogs?
 
 Apply them.
 
 ... which leaves your other databases in inconsistent states.

 Which is not a problem if you didn't want to restore them in the first
 place.

Only for small values of not a problem.  For example, you might have
pg_shdepend entries saying that various objects in some other database
depend on some role.  If you then want to drop the role, you can't;
and you can't attach to the other database to get rid of the objects,
since it's not there.  You'd also still have pg_database entries
pointing at the not-there databases.

This behavior might be all right for an emergency recovery kind of tool,
but I can't see us considering it a supported feature.

The larger point though is that I suspect what the OP really is looking
for is restore just this one database into my existing cluster, without
breaking the other databases that are already in it.  There is zero
chance of ever doing that with a WAL-based backup --- transaction ID
inconsistencies would break it, even without considering the contents
of shared catalogs.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] standby waiting for what?

2009-03-04 Thread Yauheni Labko
Btw i think you may remove %r from the restore command.

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Re: [ADMIN] Database in use?

2009-03-04 Thread Tom Lane
Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com writes:
 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Carol Walter walt...@indiana.edu wrote:
 This database is one that I created just a few hours ago just to test some
 things myself.  There can be no one in it except me.

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that enough  ((just you) to cause
 the drop database to fail?

If you try to drop the current session's database, you get a different
error message.

regression=# drop database regression;
ERROR:  cannot drop the currently open database

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] warm standby, pg_standby, invalid checkpoint record

2009-03-04 Thread Lee Azzarello
does a file named 000100CD exist anywhere on your disk?

-lee

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Brad Wiemerslage wieme...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm attempting to get warm standby up and running with a pair of servers 
 running ubuntu 8.04 and postgresql 8.3.  Been following the docs:

 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/warm-standby.html
 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/pgstandby.html

 Also, basically following the ideas here in this blog post:

 http://scale-out-blog.blogspot.com/2009/02/simple-ha-with-postgresql-point-in-time.html

 I've customized the original script he refers to in the article, which is 
 here in its entirety for reference:

 https://s3.amazonaws.com/extras.continuent.com/standby.sh

 Here is the meat of my customized script, which runs on the standby.  The 
 postgresql server on the standby is stopped first.

 start_backup=SELECT pg_start_backup('my_backup');
 stop_backup=SELECT pg_stop_backup();
 echo $start_backup | $psql -h$PRIMARY -U myuser -d mydb -e
 rsync --delete -avz -e ssh -i /path/to/key myu...@$primary:$PG_DATA/ 
 $PG_DATA
 echo $stop_backup | $psql -h $PRIMARY -U myuser -d mydb -e

 The files seem to copied over to the standby machine just fine.  Success is 
 reported with respect to the backup commands.  Permissions seem fine.

 Next, there are some steps which blow out some files.  As I understand it, 
 you no longer need the files on the standby that were in pg_xlog on the 
 primary.

 rm -f $PG_DATA/recovery.*
 rm -f $PG_DATA/8.3/main/logfile
 rm -f $PG_DATA/8.3/main/postmaster.pid
 rm -f $PG_DATA/8.3/main/pg_xlog/0*
 rm -f $PG_DATA/8.3/main/pg_xlog/archive_status/0*

 This step seems to work fine.

 Then, the archives are pulled.  They are pulled to /mnt/postgresql_archives 
 with this command:

 rsync --delete -avz -e ssh -i /path/to/key myu...@$primary:$PG_ARCHIVES/ 
 $PG_ARCHIVES

 Everything looks good.  I end up with an up to date list of WAL files in 
 /mnt/postgresql_archives on the standby.  Here is a listing:

 r...@standby:/mnt/postgresql_archives# ls
 total 688996
 drwxr-xr-x  2 postgres postgres     4096 2009-02-27 01:13 .
 drwxr-xr-x 14 root     root         4096 2009-02-27 01:17 ..
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 00:19 
 000100CB
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 00:29 
 000100CC
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 00:38 
 000100CD
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres      245 2009-02-27 00:38 
 000100CD.0020.backup
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 00:48 
 000100CE
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 00:54 
 000100CF
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 00:58 
 000100D0
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 01:01 
 000100D1
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 01:03 
 000100D2
 -rw-rw  1 postgres postgres 16777216 2009-02-27 01:13 
 000100D3

 Then, the recovery.conf is put in place.  I've tried two different versions, 
 which end up giving me the same error.  Here are the two different versions.

 #1: restore_command = '/usr/lib/postgresql/8.3/bin/pg_standby -c -d -s 2 -t 
 /mnt/postgresql_archives/pgsql.trigger /mnt/postgresql_archives %f %p  
 /mnt/postgresql_archives/standby.log 12'

 #2: restore_command = 'cp /mnt/server/archivedir/%f %p'

 I don't believe that #2 is suitable for warm standby, but just tried it to 
 debug after #1 wouldn't work.  Now, I try to start up the server.  For it to 
 work in standby mode, additional archive files will be pulled from the 
 primary machine on a periodic basis.  I'm using this command, which deletes 
 them on the primary when they are no longer necessary.  It also seems to work 
 fine.

 rsync -avz -e ssh -i /path/to/key myu...@$primary:$PG_ARCHIVES/ $PG_ARCHIVES

 I guess I'm a little confused about exactly what is happening here when the 
 server comes up, but here is the error message I'm getting.  It seems to be 
 looking for the files in pg_pxlog, which is cleared out.  So, the error makes 
 sense.  But isn't it supposed to be looking in /mnt/postgresql_archives per 
 the restore_command(s)?  The files are available there.

 2009-02-27 01:26:52.867 EST,,,7422,,49a787ac.1cfe,2,,2009-02-27 01:26:52 
 EST,,0,LOG,58P01,could not open file pg_xlog/000100CD 
 (log file 0, segment 20
 5): No such file or directory
 2009-02-27 01:26:52.867 EST,,,7422,,49a787ac.1cfe,3,,2009-02-27 01:26:52 
 EST,,0,LOG,0,invalid checkpoint record
 2009-02-27 01:26:52.867 EST,,,7422,,49a787ac.1cfe,4,,2009-02-27 01:26:52 
 EST,,0,PANIC,XX000,could not locate required checkpoint record,,If you are 
 not restoring from a
  backup, try removing the file 
 /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main/backup_label.,,
 2009-02-27 01:26:52.868 

Re: [ADMIN] getting 'full' names of functions?

2009-03-04 Thread raf
jan-peter.seif...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hello Ashish, Hello Tom,
 
 thank you very much for your quick and helpful replies - I really appreciate 
 that.
 
   May be this will help you:
  
  Easier is just
  select oid::regprocedure from pg_proc where whatever
 
 I guess I'll go with the very nifty type cast suggested by Tom though as this 
 covers aggregate functions as well. This possibility should be mentioned in 
 the docs - together with the system information functions 
 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/functions-info.html
 
 Too bad that this function syntax isn't part of information_schema.
 
 Thank you very much to both of you.
 

note that this method doesn't produce a complete function
signature. the precision and scale of numerics are not
included in the output. hopefully, that won't matter for
your needs.

cheers,
raf


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