[GENERAL] news.postgresql.org down
Does anyone know what's happened to the news.postgresql.org server? I haven't been able to access it now for a couple of days. Regards, Ben CARILLION VALUES Openness - Collaboration - Mutual Dependency - Professional Delivery -Sustainable Profitable Growth - Innovation ** This e-mail transmission, including any attachments, is confidential to the intended recipient. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] You must not disclose its contents to anyone, retain, copy, distribute or take action in reliance upon it. Carillion may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Carillion plc: Registered in England No. 3782379 Registered Office: Birch Street Wolverhampton WV1 4HY. This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl http://www.blackspider.com/, however, Carillion does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this e-mail and any attachments. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
RE: [GENERAL] Outer joins
Title: RE: [GENERAL] Outer joins Postgres 7.1 does support Left, right outer joins. Functions are similar to stored procedures but they cannot return rows. I think that this limitation is being worked on for the next release (7.2). By the way should there be a 'Postgres Features' page on the website. This would save a large amount of these queries and reduce the amount of e-mails on this list. I'm sure that lots of interest is being raised because of the 'Redhat Database' Announcement. Some of these people will just want to know what Postgres is capable of. Regards Ben -Original Message- From: eddie iannuccelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 July 2001 18:51 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GENERAL] Outer joins Can anyone confirm me that Postgres 7.1 does not support outer join ? Are functions similar to classical stored procedure ? thanks -- ** Eddie IANNUCCELLI - tel: 05 61 28 54 44 INRA, Laboratoire de Génétique Cellulaire Chemin de Borde Rouge - Auzeville -BP27 31326 Castanet Tolosan ** ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sorry about the footer it's automatic. * This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and do not store, copy or disclose the content to any other person. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that opening this message and/or any of its attachments will not adversely affect its systems. No responsibility is accepted by the Company. *
RE: [GENERAL] Kylix, dbexpress PostgreSql
Title: RE: [GENERAL] Kylix, dbexpress PostgreSql Try using ZeosDBO at http://www.zeoslib.org/ this has just been ported to Kylix. Not sure how stable it is but the windows version is great :). Regards Ben -Original Message- From: Denis Gasparin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 May 2001 16:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GENERAL] Kylix, dbexpress PostgreSql Hi to all! I searched all the pgsql mailing list (and the internet) to find if there is a dbexpress driver or some way to get pgsql into Borland Kylix. The only solution i've found is the beta driver from EasySoft dbExpress Gateway to ODBC. Is there another way or is there any plan to support Kylix dbExpress? Please, let me know: i'm going to develop a program in kylix and i'm considering what db platform to use. If isn't there another way i've to choose Interbase instead of pgsql (with very very much regret...). Thank to all, Denis Gasparin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html * This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and do not store, copy or disclose the content to any other person. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that opening this message and/or any of its attachments will not adversely affect its systems. No responsibility is accepted by the Company. *
RE: [GENERAL] Starting postgresql on startup
Title: RE: [GENERAL] Starting postgresql on startup 'linuxconf' on Mandrake 7.1 should be able to set postgres to run at boot time as long as you set Postgresql up from an rpm. If you got to 'Control Panel' - 'Control service activity' - 'postgresql'. Set Startup to automatic and select the run levels you want Postgresql to run in, usually 3 5. If you compiled Postgresql from source then I think there is a script in /contrib (There is in 7.1 Beta :-) ) which sets-up an rc script. This should then make postgresql available in linuxconf. Regards Ben P.S. This works in Mandrake 7.0 7.2 so hopefully 7.1 -Original Message- From: Zak McGregor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 March 2001 05:05 To: antken Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Starting postgresql on startup On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:05:55 +0100 antken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how would i go about making postgresql start when linux boots? i dont understand what the install document is going on about either i am running linux mandrake 7.1 and postgres 7.0.3 The easiest way is to run ntsysv as root... if that doesn't work, you'll need to look at your rc scripts. Cheers Zak ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
RE: [GENERAL] PostGreSql 7.1
Title: RE: [GENERAL] PostGreSql 7.1 http://www.postgresql.org/sites.html has a list of mirrors try one of them near you and the RPMs should be in directory dev/test-rpms Regards Ben -Original Message- From: Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 March 2001 04:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GENERAL] PostGreSql 7.1 Hi, All Where can I get a PostGreSQL 7.1 lattest beta version with RPM installation? JACK * This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and do not store, copy or disclose the content to any other person. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that opening this message and/or any of its attachments will not adversely affect its systems. No responsibility is accepted by the Company. *
RE: [GENERAL] I wonder why I don't get an exception on delphi?
Title: RE: [GENERAL] I wonder why I don't get an exception on delphi? Have you tried the following components: http://www.zeos.dn.ua/download/zeosdbo-5.2.3-beta.zip They seem to work more reliably and much more quickly than the ODBC drivers. They also give the required errors ;-) Regards Ben P.S. Very New Home Page http://www.zeoslib.org -Original Message- From: Ligia M. Pimentel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 March 2001 23:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GENERAL] I wonder why I don't get an exception on delphi? I'm using Delphi (windows) to develop a database application using Postgres 7.1 in linux. When I use delphi with other databases and I try to insert a record that violates referential integrity I get an exception, but with postgres I don't, I tried to insert the same record on PSQL and I get an error, could it be the ODBC driver? Please help me, if you know... Thank you. Ligia ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
RE: [GENERAL] Data types?
Title: RE: [GENERAL] Data types? I thought: \dT This should do it Ben -Original Message- From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 March 2001 01:00 To: Christopher Sawtell Cc: Flemming Frøkjær; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Data types? Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:29, Flemming Frøkjær wrote: How do i find out what data types are available in PostgreSQL. Look in the regression tests. Interesting stuff. And there's always select * from pg_type ... not to mention the source code ... regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
RE: [GENERAL] Convert to upper
Title: RE: [GENERAL] Convert to upper
It may be better using a trigger. You don't then get the error message (from the constraint) the record is just updated with the uppercase version of what was inserted.
Regards
Ben
-Original Message-
From: Peter Schindler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 March 2001 16:16
To: Matthias Teege
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Convert to upper
Matthias,
the easiest way is to use CHECK constraints. see example below.
Servus,
Peter
Matthias Teege wrote:
is there any way to limit values to upper case strings?
Somthing like:
name char(15) DEFAULT (upper(name))
or must I use triggers?
test=# create table bla(bb char(10) CHECK (bb =UPPER(bb)));
CREATE
test=# \d bla
Table bla
Attribute | Type | Modifier
---+---+--
bb | character(10) |
Constraint: ((bb)::text = upper((bb)::text))
test=# insert into bla values ('OTTO');
INSERT 381409 1
test=# insert into bla values ('otto');
ERROR: ExecAppend: rejected due to CHECK constraint bla_bb
ERROR: ExecAppend: rejected due to CHECK constraint bla_bb
test=# select * from bla;
bb
OTTO
(1 row)
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RE: [GENERAL] Does PostgreSQL support Constant Expression (Alias Name)?
Title: RE: [GENERAL] Does PostgreSQL support Constant Expression (Alias Name)? Try SELECT fname as First Name, lname as Last Name FROM aTable; Regards Ben -Original Message- From: Raymond Chui [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 March 2001 14:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GENERAL] Does PostgreSQL support Constant Expression (Alias Name)? If a table has columns fname, lname. I want to do query like SELECT fname First Name, lname Last Name FROM aTable; This SELECT statement is fine in Oracle, Sybase and Informix. But I get an error message in PostgreSQL Because I want the output like First Name | Last Name -- fn | ln instead default like fname | lname --- fn | ln What is the correct way doing this in PostgreSQL? Thank you very much in advance! --Raymond
RE: [GENERAL] postgresql-tcl-7.03 requires libtcl8.0.so
Title: RE: [GENERAL] postgresql-tcl-7.03 requires libtcl8.0.so Mandrake 7.2 includes tcl-8.3.2-4mdk. Make sure this is installed then, as long as thats the only remaining dependency, install postgresql-tcl-7.0.3-2mdk with --nodeps and all seems to work ;-) Regards Ben -Original Message- From: Bill Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 February 2001 09:59 To: pg-general Subject: [GENERAL] postgresql-tcl-7.03 requires libtcl8.0.so The required library comes from tcl8.0 and I have been all over the web looking for it. Does anyone have a URL for this? Would like to run pgaccess. Downloading that one, however, leads me into another mess looking for 'main.tcl'. Running Mandrake 7.2. Thanks for your help. -Bill __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [GENERAL] Re: ALTER DROP COLUMN
Is there any chance of adding a note about this to the docs? It does not seem to be documented anywhere! Maybe a note in ALTER TABLE (sql-altertable.htm) and changing the FAQ slightly to mention what happen to triggers, views, constraints etc. Regards Ben -Original Message- From: Fred Yankowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 February 2001 21:41 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GENERAL] Re: ALTER DROP COLUMN I just tried this recommended procedure with a little test. It copied over the Attribute and Type information and the primary key index, but left everything else behind: not-null constraints, defaults, references constraints, check constraints, sequence generated for 'serial' type -- to name a few. So how is this useful for anything beyond a toy database? This inability to drop a column makes it hard to follow an "extreme programming" style of development, where one designs only as much into the database schema as is needed at the moment (DTSTTCPW, YAGNI). When I do that I often find that I need to drop columns (in favor of other columns of different types) as I evolve the schema to support ever more complex applications. PostgreSQL makes this a bit harder than it needs to be. On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 12:34:20PM -0800, Brent R. Matzelle wrote: I know it's a pain, but it isn't all that bad. Just rename your table like so: ALTER TABLE old_name RENAME TO another_name Then re-create the old table without the deleted column(s): SELECT col1, col2, col4 INTO TABLE old_name FROM another_name Then delete the old table: DROP TABLE another_name -- Fred Yankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +1.630.879.1312 Principal Consultant www.OntoSys.com fax: +1.630.879.1370 OntoSys, Inc 38W242 Deerpath Rd, Batavia, IL 60510, USA
RE: [GENERAL] 7.0 configuration
Title: RE: [GENERAL] 7.0 configuration On occasions I have had similar errors when starting up. I'm using Mandrake 7.0.3-2mdk RPMs on Mandrake 7.2. The server still starts and runs OK. Have done a complete reinstall since the last time I had this error so can be of little more help. Regards Ben -Original Message- From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2001 20:18 To: Belcher, Jim Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [GENERAL] 7.0 configuration Belcher, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the system boots, and Postgres is attempting to start, I get the following error: 564, unary operator expected. I don't believe any part of Postgres itself issues such an error code. Perhaps the message is coming out of your shell, which would suggest some portability problem in the pg_ctl shell script. Try running pg_ctl by hand and/or inserting debugging echo commands to see if you can narrow down where the problem is. What platform are you on, anyway? regards, tom lane
RE: [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition?
Title: RE: [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition? You can use: pgdump -s outfile which will dump all the schema for the database. It should be in there somewhere ;) Regards Ben -Original Message- From: Josh Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2001 16:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition? I am a Postgresql convert from MySQL so I am fairly new to this system but I am catching on quick. I had a question that I couldn't find in any of the docs or in the FAQ's. I was creating a rule on a view and was wondering if there was a way to look at the rule definition once it has been saved? I envision myself creating a few rules here and there but if I move off this DB project and someone else takes over I would like them to have a way to see what I did. I was able to figure out that all the rules for a particular DB are stored in the pg_rewrite table but that seems almost unreadable for a human. What I would like is a command that spits out the create syntax I used when the rule was first created. On that same line of thinking, is there a command to get a list of all rules that have been put on a table? I guess if all else fails I will just have to pull up a good old text editor and detail exactly what rules I build in. Thanks, Josh Goodman
Recall: [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition?
Title: Recall: [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition? Trewern, Ben would like to recall the message, [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition?.
RE: [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition?
Title: RE: [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition? You can use: pg_dump -s dbase outfile which will dump all the schema for the database. It should be in there somewhere ;) Regards Ben -Original Message- From: Josh Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2001 16:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GENERAL] How to see a RULE definition? I am a Postgresql convert from MySQL so I am fairly new to this system but I am catching on quick. I had a question that I couldn't find in any of the docs or in the FAQ's. I was creating a rule on a view and was wondering if there was a way to look at the rule definition once it has been saved? I envision myself creating a few rules here and there but if I move off this DB project and someone else takes over I would like them to have a way to see what I did. I was able to figure out that all the rules for a particular DB are stored in the pg_rewrite table but that seems almost unreadable for a human. What I would like is a command that spits out the create syntax I used when the rule was first created. On that same line of thinking, is there a command to get a list of all rules that have been put on a table? I guess if all else fails I will just have to pull up a good old text editor and detail exactly what rules I build in. Thanks, Josh Goodman
RE: [GENERAL] Updating pg_attribute - Permission denied
Looks like I have turned off usecatupd in pg_shadow. Doh! Was mucking around with permissions some time ago but not had any trouble up till now. Any ideas how to switch it back? Update pg_shadow SET usecatupd . gives me Permission denied!!! Ben. -Original Message- From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 October 2000 04:08 To: Trewern, Ben Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Updating pg_attribute - Permission denied "Trewern, Ben" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was trying to update attnotnull = 't' in the pg_attribute to add Not Null constraint to a table. It gave me a Permission denied. Is this standard? Am I not allowed to change system catalogues (I am using the postgres superuser!) I don't believe it --- are you *sure* you were superuser? Or perhaps you'd turned off pg_shadow's usecatupd for yourself? I get this behavior: play= update pg_attribute set attnotnull = 't' where attrelid = 334893 and play- attname = 'f1'; ERROR: pg_attribute: Permission denied. play= \c - postgres You are now connected as new user postgres. play=# update pg_attribute set attnotnull = 't' where attrelid = 334893 and play-# attname = 'f1'; UPDATE 1 play=# Or can you only change attnotnull to false i.e. remove a not null constraint? I suppose this would make some kind of sense, as there could already be Nulls in the field. It's up to you to worry about that sort of consistency issue if you reach in and hack pg_attribute directly. Certainly the permission check is not concerned with it. regards, tom lane
[GENERAL] INHERITANCE
Title: INHERITANCE I have just been trying out Create Table .. Inherits ( ..); Am I right in saying you create a table that inherits fields default values, but not triggers. I have not tried rules or anything else yet. Where can I read more about inheritance and where to use it. Thanks in advance, Ben Trewern
