Re: [GENERAL] Help me about postgreSql code

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

John R Pierce wrote:

Elian Laura wrote:
i understand, but why my teacher wrote in his paper..Probably the 
most obvious case is a database engine where the user defines, at run 
time, if a field is integer, char, float, etc. but, it is not 
necessary to compile the program again. All this felxibility must be 
.


I am not a PostgreSQL developer but I think the thing to understand here 
is that there are two stages involved. If I say much more I think I'll 
be guilty of doing your homework for you, I suggest that you look very 
carefully at the examples John gave you earlier and consider that from 
the viewpoint of the database engine they are being entered at runtime.


   CREATE TABLE users (uid INTEGER, username TEXT, firstname TEXT,
 lastname TEXT);

   INSERT INTO users (uid, username) VALUES (103, 'jpierce', 'John',
 'Pierce'), ('104', 'elaura', 'Elian', 'Laura');

   SELECT username,firstname,lastname FROM users WHERE uid=103;

If you think about it one of those statements is giving the system 
information which it can store (I'm not sure the way it does this is 
really important) and re-use.


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Re: [GENERAL] Help me about postgreSql code

2010-01-21 Thread John R Pierce

Elian Laura wrote:
i understand, but why my teacher wrote in his paper..Probably the 
most obvious case is a database engine where the user defines, at run 
time, if a field is integer, char, float, etc. but, it is not 
necessary to compile the program again. All this felxibility must be 
.


I have no idea why your teacher wrote that.   You should ask them.

in a relational database, all data fields are typed.   the only user 
input that Postgres processes is the SQL language, and thats a full 
blown complex language parser, the internals of which I have little 
desire to take apart.




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[GENERAL] Help me about postgreSql code

2010-01-19 Thread Elian Laura
Hello,
I´m an undergraduate in Peru in systems engineering.
I need to know about how does postgres work with the definition of data type
in run time.
I downloaded de source code of postgres, but es very complex, at least I
would like to know in which part of the code is the recognition of a data
that the user enters. I write a data in a field and the postgress must know
what kind it is, as it do that?

I hope your help.

Thanks

Atte.
Elian


Re: [GENERAL] Help me about postgreSql code

2010-01-19 Thread John R Pierce

Elian Laura wrote:

Hello,
I´m an undergraduate in Peru in systems engineering.
I need to know about how does postgres work with the definition of 
data type in run time.
I downloaded de source code of postgres, but es very complex, at least 
I would like to know in which part of the code is the recognition of a 
data that the user enters. I write a data in a field and the postgress 
must know what kind it is, as it do that?


postgres is, at the core,  a relational database engine with a SQL 
language processor, it doesn't know what a 'field' is.


the fundamental storage units of a relational database are tables made 
of rows made of columns.  a column of a row of a given table is akin to 
a field, but on disk these are stored in a binary representation, the 
typing information required to decode it is part of the table definition.


the only user 'input' is SQL statements, such as...

   CREATE TABLE users (uid INTEGER, username TEXT, firstname TEXT, 
lastname TEXT);


   INSERT INTO users (uid, username) VALUES (103, 'jpierce', 'John', 
'Pierce'), ('104', 'elaura', 'Elian', 'Laura');


   SELECT username,firstname,lastname FROM users WHERE uid=103;

(I use all upper case letters for SQL keywords to distinguish them, in 
fact, SQL doesn't care)


Things like forms, fields, human input decoding  are the domain of the 
user application software, which will generate and execute SQL 
statements to store the data in the database.



Is this clear enough?




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