Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Actually that same letter is available at sco's website. The one at SCO only has a list with all the "infringing" header files attached. On Wednesday 21 January 2004 10:30 pm, Alex Satrapa wrote: > Gavin M. Roy wrote: > > Feel free to link away :) > > > > Gavin > > > > Adam Ruth wrote: > >> ...Also, if you prefer, I can mirror it on > >> my server and post that link so as to not chew up your bandwidth. > > Just make sure you get someone to mirror it before it hits Slashdot. > That way it's someone else's server that gets turned to slag. > > Alex Satrapa > > > ---(end of broadcast)--- > TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend - -- UC - -- Open Source Solutions 4U, LLC 2570 Fleetwood Drive Phone: +1 650 872 2425 San Bruno, CA 94066 Cell: +1 650 302 2405 United States Fax:+1 650 872 2417 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAELRAjqGXBvRToM4RAnuRAJ9LB0Z8BOGmDDM62LjAVe8X8c5IwgCgzVpM K5YNgHcWO8gHXJ2argIVfGs= =yJ8O -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Gavin M. Roy wrote: Feel free to link away :) Gavin Adam Ruth wrote: ...Also, if you prefer, I can mirror it on my server and post that link so as to not chew up your bandwidth. Just make sure you get someone to mirror it before it hits Slashdot. That way it's someone else's server that gets turned to slag. Alex Satrapa ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Feel free to link away :) Gavin Adam Ruth wrote: I've mentioned your predicament to the Yahoo SCO message board, and some have asked to see the letter. Would you mind if I showed it (I won't if you'd prefer I don't) Also, if you prefer, I can mirror it on my server and post that link so as to not chew up your bandwidth. Also, the same request goes for your response. Thanks, Adam Ruth On Jan 21, 2004, at 11:28 AM, Gavin M. Roy wrote: My problem is the threat from SCO is not from the bleachers so to speak, but direct in writing :( http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/sco_threat.gif Gavin Harald Fuchs wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. Again, its pretty much a personal opinion ... we use FreeBSD for all our PgSQL work, and have several clients that are doing so also, and have been most happy with it .. Again, you have to consider that with the code-sharing that happens, drivers and such tend to be very similar, if not identical ... Moreover, what should prevent the SCO scumbags from molesting *BSD users if they would succeed in destroying Linux? There might be technical reasons to move from Linux to *BSD, but the SCO amok run should not be a reason to do so. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
I've mentioned your predicament to the Yahoo SCO message board, and some have asked to see the letter. Would you mind if I showed it (I won't if you'd prefer I don't) Also, if you prefer, I can mirror it on my server and post that link so as to not chew up your bandwidth. Also, the same request goes for your response. Thanks, Adam Ruth On Jan 21, 2004, at 11:28 AM, Gavin M. Roy wrote: My problem is the threat from SCO is not from the bleachers so to speak, but direct in writing :( http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/sco_threat.gif Gavin Harald Fuchs wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. Again, its pretty much a personal opinion ... we use FreeBSD for all our PgSQL work, and have several clients that are doing so also, and have been most happy with it .. Again, you have to consider that with the code-sharing that happens, drivers and such tend to be very similar, if not identical ... Moreover, what should prevent the SCO scumbags from molesting *BSD users if they would succeed in destroying Linux? There might be technical reasons to move from Linux to *BSD, but the SCO amok run should not be a reason to do so. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Excellent response! On Jan 21, 2004, at 3:50 PM, Gavin M. Roy wrote: Here is a copy of the letter which I've sent out today: http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/SCO%20Response.pdf We'll see their response and act accordingly. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Gavin Alex Satrapa wrote: Gavin M. Roy wrote: My problem is the threat from SCO is not from the bleachers so to speak, but direct in writing :( http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/sco_threat.gif That's a threat that SCO will take illegal action against you. It's the same as Luigi from The Family calling by to remind you that if you don't pay the insurance premium, bad things could happen to your office or your person. Ask them to detail: - The infringing code (and exactly how it infringes) - The ancestry of the code (where they got theirs from) - The licence that they expect you to sign (and note that their licence does not stop them from suing you further for using Linux, nor does it stop anyone else from suing you for using code that they've licenced to you) - The terms and conditions that accompany the licence - Their support policy - Their upgrade policy Make sure all the documentation is signed. That makes it easier to whack them with it if they take you to court. Check out these names in relation to the SCO case: Linus Torvalds and Eben Moglen. No doubt Eric Scott Raymond has made some comment on it. And as everyone else has stated, catch up with the latest at Groklaw. In the meantime, treat the SCO complaint as seriously as you'd treat a drunk cop who's just pulled you over and is trying to charge you with posession of drugs. He has no case, you just have to survive the immediate encounter. Don't sign anything, don't hand over any money, make no representation that you intend to agree with their demands, just keep them talking until you have enough evidence to hurt them with. Especially don't sign or pay for any "licence", since SCO is going to use the money and the fact as leverage (especially in court!) to get other, bigger companies to cave in to their demands. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Here is a copy of the letter which I've sent out today: http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/SCO%20Response.pdf We'll see their response and act accordingly. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Gavin Alex Satrapa wrote: Gavin M. Roy wrote: My problem is the threat from SCO is not from the bleachers so to speak, but direct in writing :( http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/sco_threat.gif That's a threat that SCO will take illegal action against you. It's the same as Luigi from The Family calling by to remind you that if you don't pay the insurance premium, bad things could happen to your office or your person. Ask them to detail: - The infringing code (and exactly how it infringes) - The ancestry of the code (where they got theirs from) - The licence that they expect you to sign (and note that their licence does not stop them from suing you further for using Linux, nor does it stop anyone else from suing you for using code that they've licenced to you) - The terms and conditions that accompany the licence - Their support policy - Their upgrade policy Make sure all the documentation is signed. That makes it easier to whack them with it if they take you to court. Check out these names in relation to the SCO case: Linus Torvalds and Eben Moglen. No doubt Eric Scott Raymond has made some comment on it. And as everyone else has stated, catch up with the latest at Groklaw. In the meantime, treat the SCO complaint as seriously as you'd treat a drunk cop who's just pulled you over and is trying to charge you with posession of drugs. He has no case, you just have to survive the immediate encounter. Don't sign anything, don't hand over any money, make no representation that you intend to agree with their demands, just keep them talking until you have enough evidence to hurt them with. Especially don't sign or pay for any "licence", since SCO is going to use the money and the fact as leverage (especially in court!) to get other, bigger companies to cave in to their demands. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Oh, I like that added touch :) On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >you should invite him in to talk, and let him know that you are > >investigating drop'ng Linux altogether and are curious as to what > >SCO/UnixServer could offer ... basically, tell him you are looking at > >options, and take up his time on 'the sales pitch' :) > > > > > But before you do this, rent a temporary office in the worst part of > town, and put up a bunch > of Voodoo relics. When he comes in, make your first question: > > Are you enlightened? > > ;) > > > > >On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > > > > > > > >>My problem is the threat from SCO is not from the bleachers so to speak, > >>but direct in writing :( > >>http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/sco_threat.gif > >> > >>Gavin > >> > >>Harald Fuchs wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >>>"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > > > > > >Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd > >for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is > >the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp > >high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. > > > > > > > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > Again, its pretty much a personal opinion ... we use FreeBSD for all our > PgSQL work, and have several clients that are doing so also, and have > been most happy with it .. > > > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > Again, you have to consider that with the code-sharing that happens, > drivers and such tend to be very similar, if not identical ... > > > > > >>>Moreover, what should prevent the SCO scumbags from molesting *BSD > >>>users if they would succeed in destroying Linux? > >>> > >>>There might be technical reasons to move from Linux to *BSD, but the > >>>SCO amok run should not be a reason to do so. > >>> > >>> > >>>---(end of broadcast)--- > >>>TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>---(end of broadcast)--- > >>TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 > > > >---(end of broadcast)--- > >TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > > > http://archives.postgresql.org > > > > > > > -- > Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth PostgreSQL - S/ODBC and S/JDBC > Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. > +1-503-667-4564 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.commandprompt.com > PostgreSQL Replicator -- production quality replication for PostgreSQL > > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Marc G. Fournier wrote: you should invite him in to talk, and let him know that you are investigating drop'ng Linux altogether and are curious as to what SCO/UnixServer could offer ... basically, tell him you are looking at options, and take up his time on 'the sales pitch' :) But before you do this, rent a temporary office in the worst part of town, and put up a bunch of Voodoo relics. When he comes in, make your first question: Are you enlightened? ;) On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: My problem is the threat from SCO is not from the bleachers so to speak, but direct in writing :( http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/sco_threat.gif Gavin Harald Fuchs wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. Again, its pretty much a personal opinion ... we use FreeBSD for all our PgSQL work, and have several clients that are doing so also, and have been most happy with it .. Again, you have to consider that with the code-sharing that happens, drivers and such tend to be very similar, if not identical ... Moreover, what should prevent the SCO scumbags from molesting *BSD users if they would succeed in destroying Linux? There might be technical reasons to move from Linux to *BSD, but the SCO amok run should not be a reason to do so. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth PostgreSQL - S/ODBC and S/JDBC Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. +1-503-667-4564 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.commandprompt.com PostgreSQL Replicator -- production quality replication for PostgreSQL
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
you should invite him in to talk, and let him know that you are investigating drop'ng Linux altogether and are curious as to what SCO/UnixServer could offer ... basically, tell him you are looking at options, and take up his time on 'the sales pitch' :) On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > My problem is the threat from SCO is not from the bleachers so to speak, > but direct in writing :( > http://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/sco_threat.gif > > Gavin > > Harald Fuchs wrote: > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > >>On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd > >>>for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is > >>>the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp > >>>high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > >>Again, its pretty much a personal opinion ... we use FreeBSD for all our > >>PgSQL work, and have several clients that are doing so also, and have > >>been most happy with it .. > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>Again, you have to consider that with the code-sharing that happens, > >>drivers and such tend to be very similar, if not identical ... > >> > >> > > > >Moreover, what should prevent the SCO scumbags from molesting *BSD > >users if they would succeed in destroying Linux? > > > >There might be technical reasons to move from Linux to *BSD, but the > >SCO amok run should not be a reason to do so. > > > > > >---(end of broadcast)--- > >TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > ---(end of broadcast)--- > TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Moreover, what should prevent the SCO scumbags from molesting *BSD users if they would succeed in destroying Linux? There might be technical reasons to move from Linux to *BSD, but the SCO amok run should not be a reason to do so. I agree with this. SCO has really done nothing but prove that Linux is a threat to many companies business model. They are in a loosing fight with IBM, RedHat and Novell. If you read Groklaw or just research their claims (claiming copyright on code that Linus wrote himself), you will see that it is a wild goose chase. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth PostgreSQL - S/ODBC and S/JDBC Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. +1-503-667-4564 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.commandprompt.com PostgreSQL Replicator -- production quality replication for PostgreSQL ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Jim Mercer wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:16:46PM -0800, Gavin M. Roy wrote: Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. i've built several billing systems for long distance companies using pgsql on FreeBSD since '97. i've found them to be quite stable and robust, including uniprocessor and SMP, using raw big disks, hardware RAID, and also the incumbent vinum software RAID. i've found upgrading the core OS, as well as upgrading pgsql and other apps, to be fairly clean and troublefree. Since this is a "me too" kinda thread, I'll just say "me too". Not nearly as long a history, only been working with PostgreSQL for about 2 years, but I've been relying on FreeBSD since 98/99, and it's never let me down. Not saying that NetBSD and OpenBSD aren't great systems as well, I just started with FreeBSD, and I've never had need for anything else. Gavin Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: I'm currently one of the targets of SCO's linux licensing extortion business plan, and am contemplating switching to one of the BSD's to avoid any potential problems. I'm curious which BSD people prefer for large scale databases and why. Any pointers as to which I should test out? for the longest time, the BSDs have been split as: FreeBSD - i386 rock solid NetBSD - work on as many platforms as possible OpenBSD - be as secure as possible There is alot of code sharing between them all though, so, IMHO, alot of it is personal preferences ... I've been using FreeBSD since '95, and other then having a habit of finding (and, usually pushing) its limits, I've been most happy with it ... -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
On 21/01/2004 04:21 Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Stephen Robert Norris wrote: > Of course SCO is planning to sue the BSD users, too, so it's not really > a solution. We figure that SCO will either be bought out, or go bankrupt, before we have to worry about them :) If they tried their scam on me, I'd report them to the police. There are laws against that sort of thing in the UK. By a strange coincidence, SCO don't have an office this country... -- Paul Thomas +--+-+ | Thomas Micro Systems Limited | Software Solutions for the Smaller Business | | Computer Consultants | http://www.thomas-micro-systems-ltd.co.uk | +--+-+ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd > for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is > the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp > high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. Fact: OpenBSD is not ready for SMP systems (yet). That leaves you with 2 choices left (Free- and Net-). Opinion: I'd go with FreeBSD because I'd expect better performance and more help available from other people (since it's more common). Bye, Chris. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:16:46PM -0800, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd > for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is > the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp > high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. i've built several billing systems for long distance companies using pgsql on FreeBSD since '97. i've found them to be quite stable and robust, including uniprocessor and SMP, using raw big disks, hardware RAID, and also the incumbent vinum software RAID. i've found upgrading the core OS, as well as upgrading pgsql and other apps, to be fairly clean and troublefree. > > Gavin > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > > > > > > > >>I'm currently one of the targets of SCO's linux licensing extortion > >>business plan, and am contemplating switching to one of the BSD's to > >>avoid any potential problems. I'm curious which BSD people prefer for > >>large scale databases and why. Any pointers as to which I should test > >>out? > >> > >> > > > >for the longest time, the BSDs have been split as: > > > >FreeBSD - i386 rock solid > >NetBSD - work on as many platforms as possible > >OpenBSD - be as secure as possible > > > >There is alot of code sharing between them all though, so, IMHO, alot of > >it is personal preferences ... I've been using FreeBSD since '95, and > >other then having a habit of finding (and, usually pushing) its limits, > >I've been most happy with it ... > > > > > > > >Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 > > > > > > > > ---(end of broadcast)--- > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster -- [ Jim Mercer[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 416 410-5633 ] [ I want to live forever, or die trying.] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd > for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is > the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp > high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. Again, its pretty much a personal opinion ... we use FreeBSD for all our PgSQL work, and have several clients that are doing so also, and have been most happy with it .. Again, you have to consider that with the code-sharing that happens, drivers and such tend to be very similar, if not identical ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Stephen Robert Norris wrote: > Of course SCO is planning to sue the BSD users, too, so it's not really > a solution. We figure that SCO will either be bought out, or go bankrupt, before we have to worry about them :) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 11:55, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > > > I'm currently one of the targets of SCO's linux licensing extortion > > business plan, and am contemplating switching to one of the BSD's to > > avoid any potential problems. I'm curious which BSD people prefer for > > large scale databases and why. Any pointers as to which I should test out? > > for the longest time, the BSDs have been split as: > > FreeBSD - i386 rock solid > NetBSD - work on as many platforms as possible > OpenBSD - be as secure as possible > > There is alot of code sharing between them all though, so, IMHO, alot of > it is personal preferences ... I've been using FreeBSD since '95, and > other then having a habit of finding (and, usually pushing) its limits, > I've been most happy with it ... > > > > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 > > ---(end of broadcast)--- > TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your > joining column's datatypes do not match Of course SCO is planning to sue the BSD users, too, so it's not really a solution. Just ignore them :) Stephen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
Thanks for the feedback thus far. I should also mention I use freebsd for other stuff, but I am mainly asking in peoples experience, which is the best for PostgreSQL to live on specifically. In terms of a nice smp high end scsi system. Sorry for the lack of specifics on that before. Gavin Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: I'm currently one of the targets of SCO's linux licensing extortion business plan, and am contemplating switching to one of the BSD's to avoid any potential problems. I'm curious which BSD people prefer for large scale databases and why. Any pointers as to which I should test out? for the longest time, the BSDs have been split as: FreeBSD - i386 rock solid NetBSD - work on as many platforms as possible OpenBSD - be as secure as possible There is alot of code sharing between them all though, so, IMHO, alot of it is personal preferences ... I've been using FreeBSD since '95, and other then having a habit of finding (and, usually pushing) its limits, I've been most happy with it ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
--On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 14:06:35 -0800 "Gavin M. Roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm currently one of the targets of SCO's linux licensing extortion business plan, and am contemplating switching to one of the BSD's to avoid any potential problems. I'm curious which BSD people prefer for large scale databases and why. Any pointers as to which I should test out? I like FreeBSD. It's PORTS system is WONDERFUL! LER Thanks, Gavin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [GENERAL] SCO Extortion
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > I'm currently one of the targets of SCO's linux licensing extortion > business plan, and am contemplating switching to one of the BSD's to > avoid any potential problems. I'm curious which BSD people prefer for > large scale databases and why. Any pointers as to which I should test out? for the longest time, the BSDs have been split as: FreeBSD - i386 rock solid NetBSD - work on as many platforms as possible OpenBSD - be as secure as possible There is alot of code sharing between them all though, so, IMHO, alot of it is personal preferences ... I've been using FreeBSD since '95, and other then having a habit of finding (and, usually pushing) its limits, I've been most happy with it ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
