Re: [NOVICE] Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
Just to clarify a minor point - on Windows NT and newer, the COMSPEC environment variable determines which executable runs a batch script whether the extension is .bat or .cmd - on NT and newer this defaults to cmd.exe. -Original Message- From: pgsql-novice-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-novice-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Craig Ringer Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:51 PM To: Kushal Vaghani Cc: Scott Marlowe; pgsql-general@postgresql.org; pgsql-nov...@postgresql.org Subject: [NOVICE] Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 16:48 +1000, Kushal Vaghani wrote: > okay guys I will get 8.2.13, so would running the install.pl would be > different. > > I will try and see if I can compile and run as mentioned from the > docs. But would there be any script after install.pl to run the > postmaster, initDB You'll probably want to initdb, edit the postgresql.conf created by initdb as desired, then start the postmaster manually using pg_ctl (making sure to point pg_ctl at the data directory you created). It's not hard. If you want to automate it, just write a batch file. Remember to use ".cmd" not ".bat" so you run under the win32 cmd.exe script processor not the ancient dos emulation monster command.com . -- Craig Ringer -- Sent via pgsql-novice mailing list (pgsql-nov...@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-novice -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
okay guys I will get 8.2.13, so would running the install.pl would be different. I will try and see if I can compile and run as mentioned from the docs. But would there be any script after install.pl to run the postmaster, initDB Thanks. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Kushal Vaghani > wrote: > > Hey Craig > > > > I am doing a research project on a particular branch of postgreSQL and we > > have already had some code written on top of 8.2.4 base release few years > > back. I am doing some extensions to it. So thats the reason of not using > the > > latest releases. There would be lot of extra patching etc. > > No, there wouldn't. Going from 8.2.4 to 8.2.latest should be > painless, or nearly so. It's when the first two numbers change that > behaviour changes. Generally speaking a point release is just > security patches and bug fixes. On some very rare occasions there is > some behavioural change, but that's very rare and prominantly listed > in the release notes. >
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
Thanks Scott and Craig, I will give this a go today evening. Will let you know if it worked. Kushal On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Craig Ringer wrote: > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 16:48 +1000, Kushal Vaghani wrote: > > okay guys I will get 8.2.13, so would running the install.pl would be > > different. > > > > I will try and see if I can compile and run as mentioned from the > > docs. But would there be any script after install.pl to run the > > postmaster, initDB > > You'll probably want to initdb, edit the postgresql.conf created by > initdb as desired, then start the postmaster manually using pg_ctl > (making sure to point pg_ctl at the data directory you created). It's > not hard. > > If you want to automate it, just write a batch file. Remember to use > ".cmd" not ".bat" so you run under the win32 cmd.exe script processor > not the ancient dos emulation monster command.com . > > -- > Craig Ringer > >
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
Craig Ringer, 24.08.2009 08:51: You'll probably want to initdb, edit the postgresql.conf created by initdb as desired, then start the postmaster manually using pg_ctl (making sure to point pg_ctl at the data directory you created). It's not hard. Yep, I have done that as well (to quickly set up development databases). The command would be: pg_ctl -s -D "\Path\To\Datadir" start If you want to automate it, just write a batch file. Remember to use ".cmd" not ".bat" so you run under the win32 cmd.exe script processor not the ancient dos emulation monster command.com . I don't think there is any difference between .cmd and .bat in any of the NT based Windows versions. At least on my WinXP (and earlier with W2K) double-clicking a .bat file always starts cmd.exe *not* command.com Regards Thomas -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 16:48 +1000, Kushal Vaghani wrote: > okay guys I will get 8.2.13, so would running the install.pl would be > different. > > I will try and see if I can compile and run as mentioned from the > docs. But would there be any script after install.pl to run the > postmaster, initDB You'll probably want to initdb, edit the postgresql.conf created by initdb as desired, then start the postmaster manually using pg_ctl (making sure to point pg_ctl at the data directory you created). It's not hard. If you want to automate it, just write a batch file. Remember to use ".cmd" not ".bat" so you run under the win32 cmd.exe script processor not the ancient dos emulation monster command.com . -- Craig Ringer -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Kushal Vaghani wrote: > okay guys I will get 8.2.13, so would running the install.pl would be > different. > > I will try and see if I can compile and run as mentioned from the docs. But > would there be any script after install.pl to run the postmaster, initDB On Unix the program to start things up is pg_ctl... Is there a program by that name in the windows build? -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Kushal Vaghani > wrote: >> Hey Craig >> >> I am doing a research project on a particular branch of postgreSQL and we >> have already had some code written on top of 8.2.4 base release few years >> back. I am doing some extensions to it. So thats the reason of not using the >> latest releases. There would be lot of extra patching etc. > > No, there wouldn't. Going from 8.2.4 to 8.2.latest should be > painless, or nearly so. It's when the first two numbers change that > behaviour changes. Generally speaking a point release is just > security patches and bug fixes. On some very rare occasions there is > some behavioural change, but that's very rare and prominantly listed > in the release notes. P.s. you're far more likely to be bitten by some obscure bug in an old release (8.2.4) versus the latest 8.2 release. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Kushal Vaghani wrote: > Hey Craig > > I am doing a research project on a particular branch of postgreSQL and we > have already had some code written on top of 8.2.4 base release few years > back. I am doing some extensions to it. So thats the reason of not using the > latest releases. There would be lot of extra patching etc. No, there wouldn't. Going from 8.2.4 to 8.2.latest should be painless, or nearly so. It's when the first two numbers change that behaviour changes. Generally speaking a point release is just security patches and bug fixes. On some very rare occasions there is some behavioural change, but that's very rare and prominantly listed in the release notes. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
Hey Craig I am doing a research project on a particular branch of postgreSQL and we have already had some code written on top of 8.2.4 base release few years back. I am doing some extensions to it. So thats the reason of not using the latest releases. There would be lot of extra patching etc. I mean when i run src\tools\msvc\install.pl DESTINATION DIRECTORY, I do get 3 folder with 3 exe's in the bin directory. So is there a script on wondows I can run to fireoff postmaster then load the new DB and connect via pgADMIN ? Many thanks. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Craig > Ringer wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 15:25 +1000, Kushal Vaghani wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have downloaded and built the 8.2.4 postgreSQL from source. This was > >> done by running the build.bat file under src\tools\msvc. I do get a > >> few errors with some contrib projects, but I do not care about them. > > > > Why such an ancient version? Rapid improvements have been made in > > PostgreSQL's Windows support, and you'll have much better results with > > 8.4 or even 8.3 . > > At the very least the most up to date version of 8.2, which is WAY > higher than .4 >
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Craig Ringer wrote: > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 15:25 +1000, Kushal Vaghani wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have downloaded and built the 8.2.4 postgreSQL from source. This was >> done by running the build.bat file under src\tools\msvc. I do get a >> few errors with some contrib projects, but I do not care about them. > > Why such an ancient version? Rapid improvements have been made in > PostgreSQL's Windows support, and you'll have much better results with > 8.4 or even 8.3 . At the very least the most up to date version of 8.2, which is WAY higher than .4 -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Install from Source On Windows - University of Sydney Research
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 15:25 +1000, Kushal Vaghani wrote: > Hello, > > I have downloaded and built the 8.2.4 postgreSQL from source. This was > done by running the build.bat file under src\tools\msvc. I do get a > few errors with some contrib projects, but I do not care about them. Why such an ancient version? Rapid improvements have been made in PostgreSQL's Windows support, and you'll have much better results with 8.4 or even 8.3 . > When i do install(install.pl), there is a destination directory > created. Now my question is how do i run postgreSQL from within here. > Is there a command line script etc. for this ? Typically you'll want to create a service account for PostgreSQL, then add a service that runs the postmaster via pg_ctl.exe under the new service account. If you're not comfortable doing that, perhaps you should be using the binary installer for a recent version? -- Craig Ringer -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
