Re: [HACKERS] One of our own begins a new life

2006-09-17 Thread Enver ALTIN
On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 09:38 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
 Hello,

Hi Joshua,

 Yeah, this is a cross post and it is slightly off topic but IMHO this is 
 important.
 
 Tomorrow one of our own, Devrim Gunduz is becoming a man. He is sucking 
 it up, and committing to the cvs repo of project marriage.
 
 May the patches reviewers be kind to him!
 
 Congratz Devrim, have a good honey moon and we look forward to having 
 you back in a couple of weeks!

I have done a quick post-commit review of his recent patch, it looked
(very) good to me :) I'd also like to raise the point of how good he's
on pretending to be a belly dancer.
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Re: [Pgsqlrpms-hackers] [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM initscript

2006-08-25 Thread Enver ALTIN
Merhaba,

On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 10:30:56AM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
 It is extremely careful. The point is that the NFS mount will hide the 
 existing datadir from initdb.

Am I the only one who believes that PostgreSQL project is not supposed
to fix (or include workarounds for) some other systems that actually
don't work very well?

If NFS is causing trouble, let it be.

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Re: [HACKERS] Transaction Speed

2006-07-21 Thread Enver ALTIN
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 02:36:53PM +0200, moises wrote:
 For example Inserts, Update, delete, etc.

If you need a storage for structured data, database servers are good to
go. If you need a very fast flow of not-so-needed and
okay-to-miss-we-can-regenerate type of data storage you can go with
in-memory storage such as memcache[1] or PostgreSQL's temporary
table[2] feature. I think the latter would slightly perform better.

Enjoy,

[1] http://www.danga.com/memcached/
[2] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/sql-createtable.html
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[HACKERS] pgNixInstaller: Making PostgreSQL relocatable

2006-03-22 Thread Enver ALTIN

Hi,

We have been having a short talk with Devrim this evening about the
pgnixInstaller[1] project he started[2] a while ago.

I have briefly read over the thread following the project announce, 
particularly comments on issues about package systems of distributions 
and integration with them.


I believe the project will add some value to the PostgreSQL community, 
so I'd like to join and add my grain of salt.


Main goal of the project appears to be making installation and 
configuration of PostgreSQL server a no-brainer, not easier. Any moron 
you can get to the /mouse/[3] should be able to get PostgreSQL up and 
running in some short time period. And that moron should be able to do 
it in some fashion that's not so good, but the installation should work.


Fortunately we're not alone in the universe, several other projects 
suffered from the very same problem. Including the much larger 
OpenOffice.org project. I think some of you have installed it on your 
favorite Unix-alike OS using it's click-click-and-go installer, when 
distributions did not have packages of it -- ancient times.


We'll be doing that for PostgreSQL, I think it's a fantastic way for me 
to get involved.


In order to achieve this *properly*, I intend to make PostgreSQL 
relocatable, that is, PostgreSQL should be able to run if you `copy` 
it's binaries somewhere else -- no matter where you `./configure 
--prefix`ed it. I took a very quick look at some parts of the codebase 
and it seems doable to me.


Apparently we'll be avoiding package systems integration and 
development-packages-requirement issues mentioned in the thread.


Next step would be a simple, possibly shell-script and xdialog/zenity[4] 
based prototype installer. I personally can't afford the Python thing, 
Solaris and possibly others don't have it yet and embedding Python in a 
shell script is not the brightest idea obviously.


Now the question, would you accept patches for this, or are we going to 
maintain some set of patches?


May you have suggestions about any other direction, I'd be more than 
happy to know.


Cheers,

[1] http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgnixinstaller/
[2] http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2006-01/msg00943.php
[3] http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog24.html
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Re: [HACKERS] pgNixInstaller: Making PostgreSQL relocatable

2006-03-22 Thread Enver ALTIN

Hey,

Enver ALTIN wrote:
Next step would be a simple, possibly shell-script and xdialog/zenity[4] 
based prototype installer. I personally can't afford the Python thing, 
Solaris and possibly others don't have it yet and embedding Python in a 
shell script is not the brightest idea obviously.


[4] http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/zenity/

:)
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Re: [HACKERS] pgNixInstaller: Making PostgreSQL relocatable

2006-03-22 Thread Enver ALTIN

Hi Tom,

Tom Lane wrote:

Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In order to achieve this *properly*, I intend to make PostgreSQL 
relocatable, that is, PostgreSQL should be able to run if you `copy` 
it's binaries somewhere else -- no matter where you `./configure 
--prefix`ed it. I took a very quick look at some parts of the codebase 
and it seems doable to me.


s/doable/already done/, no?


I did a Google search on relocatable PostgreSQL and the first 
result[1] said it's already done. Apparently it didn't work for me on 
Solaris 8 (linking problems). I'll be looking at it sometime today.


Thanks for your immediate response :)

[1] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html
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