Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I have only been running nightly paralell regression runs since June 27,
 so it is possible that the paralell regression was broken in February,
 fixed in May, then broken some time after that.

Any further progress on this?

My best theory at the moment is that we have a problem with relcache
entry creation failing if it's interrupted by an SI inval message at
just the right time.  I don't much want to grovel through six months
worth of changelog entries looking for candidate mistakes, though.

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Bruce Momjian

I am testing this today.  I found 2003-03-03 to not generate a failure
in 20 tests, so I am moving forward to April/May.

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Robert Creager wrote:
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 I will stand by the fact that I cannot generate failures from
 2003-02-15 (200+ runs), and I can from 2003-02-16.  Just to make sure I
 didn't screw up the cvs usage, I'll try again tonight if I get the
 chance and re-download re-test these two days.
 
 I can set up a script that will step through weekly dates starting from
 'now' and see if the 02-16 problem might of been fixed and then
 re-introduced if you like.
 
 2003-02-16 fails 6/50
vacuum failed 1 times
misc failed 3 times
sanity_check failed 3 times
inherit failed 1 times
triggers failed 4 times
 
 Cheers,
 Rob
 
 On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:14:32 -0400
 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something like:
 
  Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I have only been running nightly paralell regression runs since June
   27, so it is possible that the paralell regression was broken in
   February, fixed in May, then broken some time after that.
  
  Any further progress on this?
  
  My best theory at the moment is that we have a problem with relcache
  entry creation failing if it's interrupted by an SI inval message at
  just the right time.  I don't much want to grovel through six months
  worth of changelog entries looking for candidate mistakes, though.
  
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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Bruce Momjian

I am now seeing this error in 2003-03-03.

  CREATE TABLE INSERT_CHILD (cx INT default 42,
cy INT CHECK (cy  x))
INHERITS (INSERT_TBL);
+ ERROR:  RelationClearRelation: relation 130996 deleted while still in use
  

---

Bruce Momjian wrote:
 
 I am testing this today.  I found 2003-03-03 to not generate a failure
 in 20 tests, so I am moving forward to April/May.
 
 ---
 
 Robert Creager wrote:
 -- Start of PGP signed section.
  
  I will stand by the fact that I cannot generate failures from
  2003-02-15 (200+ runs), and I can from 2003-02-16.  Just to make sure I
  didn't screw up the cvs usage, I'll try again tonight if I get the
  chance and re-download re-test these two days.
  
  I can set up a script that will step through weekly dates starting from
  'now' and see if the 02-16 problem might of been fixed and then
  re-introduced if you like.
  
  2003-02-16 fails 6/50
 vacuum failed 1 times
 misc failed 3 times
 sanity_check failed 3 times
 inherit failed 1 times
 triggers failed 4 times
  
  Cheers,
  Rob
  
  On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:14:32 -0400
  Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something like:
  
   Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have only been running nightly paralell regression runs since June
27, so it is possible that the paralell regression was broken in
February, fixed in May, then broken some time after that.
   
   Any further progress on this?
   
   My best theory at the moment is that we have a problem with relcache
   entry creation failing if it's interrupted by an SI inval message at
   just the right time.  I don't much want to grovel through six months
   worth of changelog entries looking for candidate mistakes, though.
   
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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am now seeing this error in 2003-03-03.

 CREATE TABLE INSERT_CHILD (cx INT default 42,
 cy INT CHECK (cy  x))
 INHERITS (INSERT_TBL);
 + ERROR:  RelationClearRelation: relation 130996 deleted while still in use

I have a theory about the failures that occur while creating tables.
If a relcache flush were to occur due to SI buffer overrun between
creation of the new rel's relcache entry by RelationBuildLocalRelation
and completion of the command, then you'd see an error exactly like the
above, because the relcache would try to rebuild the cache entry by
reading the pg_class and pg_attribute rows for the relation.  Which
would possibly not exist yet, and even if they did exist they'd be
invisible under SnapshotNow rules.

However this bug is of long standing, and it doesn't seem all that
probable as an explanation for your difficulties.  It would be worth
running the tests with log_min_messages set to DEBUG4 (along with the
verbosity setting, please) and see if you observe cache state reset
log entries just before the failures.

In any case this would not explain failures during DROP TABLE, so
there's another issue to look for.

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote:
 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I am now seeing this error in 2003-03-03.
 
CREATE TABLE INSERT_CHILD (cx INT default 42,
  cy INT CHECK (cy  x))
  INHERITS (INSERT_TBL);
  + ERROR:  RelationClearRelation: relation 130996 deleted while still in use
 
 Define now seeing.  Did you change something?  Did you just run more
 test cycles and it happened one time?  Did it suddenly start to happen a
 lot?

Ran more cycles, that's all.  I had reported 2003-03-03 was fine, but
only ran a few tests that previous time.  I am looking at the
mid-February date range now.

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am now seeing this error in 2003-03-03.

   CREATE TABLE INSERT_CHILD (cx INT default 42,
 cy INT CHECK (cy  x))
 INHERITS (INSERT_TBL);
 + ERROR:  RelationClearRelation: relation 130996 deleted while still in use

Define now seeing.  Did you change something?  Did you just run more
test cycles and it happened one time?  Did it suddenly start to happen a
lot?

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Bruce Momjian

Tom, is the attached regression diff considered normal?  This was
generated by current CVS.

I am trying to determine what is a normal error and what is something to
be concerned about.

Also, I am up to Feb 25 with no errors, but am still testing.

---

Tom Lane wrote:
 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I am now seeing this error in 2003-03-03.
 
  CREATE TABLE INSERT_CHILD (cx INT default 42,
  cy INT CHECK (cy  x))
  INHERITS (INSERT_TBL);
  + ERROR:  RelationClearRelation: relation 130996 deleted while still in use
 
 I have a theory about the failures that occur while creating tables.
 If a relcache flush were to occur due to SI buffer overrun between
 creation of the new rel's relcache entry by RelationBuildLocalRelation
 and completion of the command, then you'd see an error exactly like the
 above, because the relcache would try to rebuild the cache entry by
 reading the pg_class and pg_attribute rows for the relation.  Which
 would possibly not exist yet, and even if they did exist they'd be
 invisible under SnapshotNow rules.
 
 However this bug is of long standing, and it doesn't seem all that
 probable as an explanation for your difficulties.  It would be worth
 running the tests with log_min_messages set to DEBUG4 (along with the
 verbosity setting, please) and see if you observe cache state reset
 log entries just before the failures.
 
 In any case this would not explain failures during DROP TABLE, so
 there's another issue to look for.
 
   regards, tom lane
 

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*** ./expected/constraints.out  Mon Jul 28 13:50:13 2003
--- ./results/constraints.out   Mon Jul 28 18:32:55 2003
***
*** 80,102 
  CREATE TABLE CHECK2_TBL (x int, y text, z int,
CONSTRAINT SEQUENCE_CON
CHECK (x  3 and y  'check failed' and z  8));
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (4, 'check ok', -2);
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (1, 'x check failed', -2);
! ERROR:  new row for relation check2_tbl violates CHECK constraint sequence_con
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (5, 'z check failed', 10);
! ERROR:  new row for relation check2_tbl violates CHECK constraint sequence_con
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (0, 'check failed', -2);
! ERROR:  new row for relation check2_tbl violates CHECK constraint sequence_con
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (6, 'check failed', 11);
! ERROR:  new row for relation check2_tbl violates CHECK constraint sequence_con
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (7, 'check ok', 7);
  SELECT '' AS two, * from CHECK2_TBL;
!  two | x |y | z  
! -+---+--+
!  | 4 | check ok | -2
!  | 7 | check ok |  7
! (2 rows)
! 
  --
  -- Check constraints on INSERT
  --
--- 80,100 
  CREATE TABLE CHECK2_TBL (x int, y text, z int,
CONSTRAINT SEQUENCE_CON
CHECK (x  3 and y  'check failed' and z  8));
+ ERROR:  relation 126581 deleted while still in use
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (4, 'check ok', -2);
+ ERROR:  relation check2_tbl does not exist
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (1, 'x check failed', -2);
! ERROR:  relation check2_tbl does not exist
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (5, 'z check failed', 10);
! ERROR:  relation check2_tbl does not exist
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (0, 'check failed', -2);
! ERROR:  relation check2_tbl does not exist
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (6, 'check failed', 11);
! ERROR:  relation check2_tbl does not exist
  INSERT INTO CHECK2_TBL VALUES (7, 'check ok', 7);
+ ERROR:  relation check2_tbl does not exist
  SELECT '' AS two, * from CHECK2_TBL;
! ERROR:  relation check2_tbl does not exist
  --
  -- Check constraints on INSERT
  --

==

*** ./expected/misc.out Mon Jul 28 13:50:13 2003
--- ./results/misc.out  Mon Jul 28 18:33:04 2003
***
*** 580,586 
   c
   c_star
   char_tbl
-  check2_tbl
   check_seq
   check_tbl
   circle_tbl
--- 580,585 
***
*** 660,666 
   toyemp
   varchar_tbl
   xacttest
! (96 rows)
  
  --SELECT name(equipment(hobby_construct(text 'skywalking', text 'mer'))) AS 
equip_name;
  SELECT hobbies_by_name('basketball');
--- 659,665 
   toyemp
   varchar_tbl
   xacttest
! (95 rows)
  
  --SELECT name(equipment(hobby_construct(text 'skywalking', text 'mer'))) AS 
equip_name;
  SELECT hobbies_by_name('basketball');

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Tom, is the attached regression diff considered normal?  This was
 generated by current CVS.

Well, this *looks* like it could be an example of the SI-overrun-
during-create behavior I was talking about.  But if you weren't running
a verbose log to show whether a cache flush occurred just before the
error, there's no way to know for sure.

Right at the moment I am more interested in the other cases though
(cache lookup failure during DROP) since I have no plausible
explanation for them.

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote:
 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Tom, is the attached regression diff considered normal?  This was
  generated by current CVS.
 
 Well, this *looks* like it could be an example of the SI-overrun-
 during-create behavior I was talking about.  But if you weren't running
 a verbose log to show whether a cache flush occurred just before the
 error, there's no way to know for sure.

OK.

 Right at the moment I am more interested in the other cases though
 (cache lookup failure during DROP) since I have no plausible
 explanation for them.

Thanks.  That's what I need to know.

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Tom Lane
I said:
 I have a theory about the failures that occur while creating tables.
 If a relcache flush were to occur due to SI buffer overrun between
 creation of the new rel's relcache entry by RelationBuildLocalRelation
 and completion of the command, then you'd see an error exactly like the
 above, because the relcache would try to rebuild the cache entry by
 reading the pg_class and pg_attribute rows for the relation.

After further study, though, the above theory falls flat on its face:
the relcache does *not* attempt to rebuild new relcache entries after
an SI overrun (see the comments to RelationCacheInvalidate).  So I'm
back to wondering what the heck is causing any of these messages.

I think we really need to see a stack trace from one of the failures.
Could you try running CVS tip with an abort() call replacing the
relation %u deleted while still in use elog?  (It's line 1797
in src/backend/utils/cache/relcache.c in CVS tip.)  Then when you
get the failure, get a stack trace with gdb from the core dump.

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-28 Thread Bruce Momjian

OK, on it now!

---

Tom Lane wrote:
 I said:
  I have a theory about the failures that occur while creating tables.
  If a relcache flush were to occur due to SI buffer overrun between
  creation of the new rel's relcache entry by RelationBuildLocalRelation
  and completion of the command, then you'd see an error exactly like the
  above, because the relcache would try to rebuild the cache entry by
  reading the pg_class and pg_attribute rows for the relation.
 
 After further study, though, the above theory falls flat on its face:
 the relcache does *not* attempt to rebuild new relcache entries after
 an SI overrun (see the comments to RelationCacheInvalidate).  So I'm
 back to wondering what the heck is causing any of these messages.
 
 I think we really need to see a stack trace from one of the failures.
 Could you try running CVS tip with an abort() call replacing the
 relation %u deleted while still in use elog?  (It's line 1797
 in src/backend/utils/cache/relcache.c in CVS tip.)  Then when you
 get the failure, get a stack trace with gdb from the core dump.
 
   regards, tom lane
 
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[HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-26 Thread Robert Creager

I found it (I think)...

Looks like something was done after the 15'th...

2003-02-15 passes 50/50 and 33/33 on second pass (so far)
2003-02-16 fails 6/50
   vacuum failed 1 times
   misc failed 3 times
   sanity_check failed 3 times
   inherit failed 1 times
   triggers failed 4 times
2003-02-18 fails 11/50
   constraints failed 5 times
   sanity_check failed 3 times
   misc failed 8 times
   inherit failed 2 times
   rules failed 1 times
   triggers failed 5 times

Cheers,
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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-26 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Creager [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Looks like something was done after the 15'th...

 2003-02-15 passes 50/50 and 33/33 on second pass (so far)
 2003-02-16 fails 6/50

As far back as that!  Okay, many thanks for the info --- that will help.

I'm buried in error message editing right now but will look at the diffs
in that timeframe tomorrow, unless someone beats me to it.

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-26 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Creager [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 2003-02-15 passes 50/50 and 33/33 on second pass (so far)
 2003-02-16 fails 6/50

I looked in the CVS logs while waiting for a compile, and the only patch
I see that goes anywhere near the locking or cache code around that time
is this one:

2003-02-17 21:13  momjian

* src/: backend/storage/lmgr/deadlock.c,
backend/storage/lmgr/lock.c, backend/storage/lmgr/proc.c,
backend/utils/adt/lockfuncs.c, include/storage/lock.h,
include/storage/proc.h: Rename 'holder' references to 'proclock'
for PROCLOCK references, for consistency.

which seems like a safe change (I assume it was just a
search-and-replace; do you recall, Bruce?) and anyway the time is not
quite right.

What time of day did your successive pulls correspond to, anyway?
(I believe my cvs2cl printout above is showing me EST.)

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-26 Thread Bruce Momjian

I am seeing repeatable success from a CVS of 2003-05-01, and repeatable
failure from current CVS.

I have only been running nightly paralell regression runs since June 27,
so it is possible that the paralell regression was broken in February,
fixed in May, then broken some time after that.

I will test June 1 now.

---

Robert Creager wrote:
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 I found it (I think)...
 
 Looks like something was done after the 15'th...
 
 2003-02-15 passes 50/50 and 33/33 on second pass (so far)
 2003-02-16 fails 6/50
vacuum failed 1 times
misc failed 3 times
sanity_check failed 3 times
inherit failed 1 times
triggers failed 4 times
 2003-02-18 fails 11/50
constraints failed 5 times
sanity_check failed 3 times
misc failed 8 times
inherit failed 2 times
rules failed 1 times
triggers failed 5 times
 
 Cheers,
 Rob
 
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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-26 Thread Robert Creager
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:24:56 -0400
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something like:

 
 What time of day did your successive pulls correspond to, anyway?
 (I believe my cvs2cl printout above is showing me EST.)
 
   regards, tom lane
 
 

I'm MST, and I did not specify a timezone on the cvs updates.  just cvs
update -D 2003-02-16

I can re-do with a specific time/date if you tell me what you want.  Or
give me a range.  I take a few minutes to do a complete cvs download.

Later,
Rob

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Re: [HACKERS] Regression test failure date.

2003-07-26 Thread Robert Creager
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:08:46 -0400 (EDT)
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something like:

 
 I am seeing repeatable success from a CVS of 2003-05-01, and
 repeatable failure from current CVS.
 
 I have only been running nightly paralell regression runs since June
 27, so it is possible that the paralell regression was broken in
 February, fixed in May, then broken some time after that.
 
 I will test June 1 now.
 

I don't know about that Bruce.  When I grabbed 2003-05-01, I have 2
failures in 15 runs so far.  One item I did have to change was to move
from bison 1.5 to bison 1.875.

I've attached included the first failure one.

*** ./expected/triggers.out Sat Nov 23 11:13:22 2002
--- ./results/triggers.out  Sat Jul 26 20:10:18 2003
***
*** 87,92 
--- 87,93 
  NOTICE:  check_pkeys_fkey_cascade: 1 tuple(s) of fkeys are deleted
  NOTICE:  check_pkeys_fkey_cascade: 1 tuple(s) of fkeys2 are deleted
  DROP TABLE pkeys;
+ ERROR:  cache lookup of relation 129432 failed
  DROP TABLE fkeys;
  DROP TABLE fkeys2;
  -- -- I've disabled the funny_dup17 test because the new semantics

==

*** ./expected/sanity_check.out Mon Aug 19 13:33:36 2002
--- ./results/sanity_check.out  Sat Jul 26 20:10:20 2003
***
*** 58,68 
   pg_statistic| t
   pg_trigger  | t
   pg_type | t
   road| t
   shighway| t
   tenk1   | t
   tenk2   | t
! (52 rows)
  
  --
  -- another sanity check: every system catalog that has OIDs should
have--- 58,69 
   pg_statistic| t
   pg_trigger  | t
   pg_type | t
+  pkeys   | t
   road| t
   shighway| t
   tenk1   | t
   tenk2   | t
! (53 rows)
  
  --
  -- another sanity check: every system catalog that has OIDs should
have

==

*** ./expected/misc.out Sat Jul 26 20:03:48 2003
--- ./results/misc.out  Sat Jul 26 20:10:22 2003
***
*** 633,638 
--- 633,639 
   onek2
   path_tbl
   person
+  pkeys
   point_tbl
   polygon_tbl
   ramp
***
*** 657,663 
   toyemp
   varchar_tbl
   xacttest
! (93 rows)
  
  --SELECT name(equipment(hobby_construct(text 'skywalking', text
'mer'))) AS equip_name;  SELECT hobbies_by_name('basketball');
--- 658,664 
   toyemp
   varchar_tbl
   xacttest
! (94 rows)
  
  --SELECT name(equipment(hobby_construct(text 'skywalking', text
'mer'))) AS equip_name;  SELECT hobbies_by_name('basketball');

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