Re: [HACKERS] Where to see the patch queue (was Re: [PATCHES] Patch

2005-03-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Robert Treat wrote:
> On Thursday 03 March 2005 19:08, Neil Conway wrote:
> > Thomas F.O'Connell wrote:
> > committers, myself included, deserve some blame for not making more
> > rapid progress on the queue of unapplied patches for 8.1. In the
> > meanwhile, the queue should be easier for folks to find (why is the
> > "pgpatches" queue the only one linked from postgresql.org, but it is
> > almost empty?)
> >
> 
> Wow, I hadn't realized just how big that queue had gotten. I've got no qualms 
> adding another link to the website, but can we get a scheme wrt to links for 
> the various patche queues?  Is pgpatches for the current stable branch and 
> pgpatches2 for the current development branch?  (Well, that can't be true 
> since before 8.0 release they were both for unstable branches...)  
> 
> Incidentally, I think DEV_FAQ 1.4 should be modified to include mentioning 
> the 
> patch queues. 

Done:

1.4) What do I do after choosing an item to work on?

Send an email to pgsql-hackers with a proposal for what you want to do
(assuming your contribution is not trivial). Working in isolation is not
advisable: others may be working on the same TODO item; you may have
misunderstood the TODO item; your approach may benefit from the review
of others.

A web site is maintained for patches that are ready to be applied,
http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches, and those that are
being kept for the next release,
http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches2.

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Re: [HACKERS] Where to see the patch queue (was Re: [PATCHES] Patch

2005-03-04 Thread Robert Treat
On Thursday 03 March 2005 19:08, Neil Conway wrote:
> Thomas F.O'Connell wrote:
> committers, myself included, deserve some blame for not making more
> rapid progress on the queue of unapplied patches for 8.1. In the
> meanwhile, the queue should be easier for folks to find (why is the
> "pgpatches" queue the only one linked from postgresql.org, but it is
> almost empty?)
>

Wow, I hadn't realized just how big that queue had gotten. I've got no qualms 
adding another link to the website, but can we get a scheme wrt to links for 
the various patche queues?  Is pgpatches for the current stable branch and 
pgpatches2 for the current development branch?  (Well, that can't be true 
since before 8.0 release they were both for unstable branches...)  

Incidentally, I think DEV_FAQ 1.4 should be modified to include mentioning the 
patch queues. 

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Re: [HACKERS] Where to see the patch queue (was Re: [PATCHES] Patch

2005-03-03 Thread Neil Conway
Thomas F.O'Connell wrote:
I have a feeling Bruce was referring to item 1.4:
http://developer.postgresql.org/readtext.php?src/FAQ/ 
FAQ_DEV.html+Developers-FAQ#1.4
It has never been standard practice to ask for comments before the 
development of small features, such as this one. The recently duplicated 
work on allowing multiple "-t" and "-n" options in pg_dump is another 
example (although that is complex enough an RFC might be worth doing).

Anyway, I think this is missing the point. Checking "has this work 
already been done and is sitting in some patch queue somewhere?" before 
doing anything presupposes the existence of a sizeable queue of 
unapplied patches that is hard to find. I don't think either of those 
should be true. I think Matthias' comment is well-founded: the 
committers, myself included, deserve some blame for not making more 
rapid progress on the queue of unapplied patches for 8.1. In the 
meanwhile, the queue should be easier for folks to find (why is the 
"pgpatches" queue the only one linked from postgresql.org, but it is 
almost empty?)

-Neil
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Re: [HACKERS] Where to see the patch queue (was Re: [PATCHES] Patch

2005-03-01 Thread Thomas F.O'Connell
I have a feeling Bruce was referring to item 1.4:
http://developer.postgresql.org/readtext.php?src/FAQ/ 
FAQ_DEV.html+Developers-FAQ#1.4

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On Mar 1, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Neil Conway wrote:
Bruce Momjian wrote:
Have you read the developer's FAQ.  It is a requirement to get  
involved.
How does the developer's FAQ address this concern?
-Neil
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Re: [HACKERS] Where to see the patch queue (was Re: [PATCHES] Patch

2005-03-01 Thread Neil Conway
Bruce Momjian wrote:
Have you read the developer's FAQ.  It is a requirement to get involved.
How does the developer's FAQ address this concern?
-Neil
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Re: [HACKERS] Where to see the patch queue (was Re: [PATCHES] Patch for Postmaster

2005-03-01 Thread Bruce Momjian

Have you read the developer's FAQ.  It is a requirement to get involved.

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Matthias Schmidt wrote:
> Hi *,
> 
> I have submitted a patch which does exactly this. Somebody edited it 
> and Bruce put it on
> the queue for 8.1.
> 
> Now we both did the same work twice. This is a good example how a 
> public accessible
> Bugtracker and TODO-List where one can claim things (or get assigned to 
> some workitem)
> can save valuable time.
> 
> Image someone likes to get in touch with the codebase by fixing some 
> bugs first. To my
> understanding, there is no Bug Database for Postgres (correct me, if I 
> am wrong).
>   Where can this volunteer lookup Bugs? I don't want to restart the 
> Bugzilla Discussion,
> since I personally don't have any preference which Trouble-Ticket 
> System to use.
> But I think the idea of having one is worth considering.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> Am 25.02.2005 um 03:51 schrieb Bruce Momjian:
> 
> > Eric Crampton wrote:
> >> On Feb 24, 2005, at 5:38 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Eric Crampton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  I noticed in the TODO that there is an item requesting a function
>  which
>  returns the uptime of the postmaster. I've wanted that as well. So,
>  I've
>  added just such a thing: server_start_time(). This function returns
>  the
>  time when the postmaster was started; a simple now() -
>  server_start_time()
>  returns the uptime.
> >>>
> >>> Isn't there one of these in the patch queue already?
> >>
> >> There could be, but I didn't see one because perhaps I'm looking in 
> >> the
> >> wrong place. I referenced the TODO list here:
> >>
> >>http://developer.postgresql.org/todo.php
> >>
> >> and I referenced the unapplied patches here:
> >>
> >>http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches
> >>
> >> Where should I be looking?
> >>
> >
> > Sure:
> >
> > http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches2
> >
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Re: [HACKERS] Where to see the patch queue (was Re: [PATCHES] Patch for Postmaster

2005-03-01 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Hi *,
I have submitted a patch which does exactly this. Somebody edited it 
and Bruce put it on
the queue for 8.1.

Now we both did the same work twice. This is a good example how a 
public accessible
Bugtracker and TODO-List where one can claim things (or get assigned to 
some workitem)
can save valuable time.

Image someone likes to get in touch with the codebase by fixing some 
bugs first. To my
understanding, there is no Bug Database for Postgres (correct me, if I 
am wrong).
 Where can this volunteer lookup Bugs? I don't want to restart the 
Bugzilla Discussion,
since I personally don't have any preference which Trouble-Ticket 
System to use.
But I think the idea of having one is worth considering.

cheers,
Matthias
Am 25.02.2005 um 03:51 schrieb Bruce Momjian:
Eric Crampton wrote:
On Feb 24, 2005, at 5:38 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
"Eric Crampton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I noticed in the TODO that there is an item requesting a function
which
returns the uptime of the postmaster. I've wanted that as well. So,
I've
added just such a thing: server_start_time(). This function returns
the
time when the postmaster was started; a simple now() -
server_start_time()
returns the uptime.
Isn't there one of these in the patch queue already?
There could be, but I didn't see one because perhaps I'm looking in 
the
wrong place. I referenced the TODO list here:

http://developer.postgresql.org/todo.php
and I referenced the unapplied patches here:
http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches
Where should I be looking?
Sure:
http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches2
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