Re: [HACKERS] How to compile, link and use a C++ extension
On 15 August 2015 at 00:51, Andres Freund wrote:
>> I started my tests by cloning the contrib/worker_spi code, and when
>> transforming the code into C++, I could only note that C++ is not supported
>> in the provided Makefiles.
>
> Yes, that doesn't surprise me. Postgres itself doesn't need to care
> about looking for a usable C++ compiler et al.
I think it'd be necessary to add C++ support to PGXS to do this nicely.
Because PostgreSQL's headers have C++
extern "C" {
wrappers in them, you could potentially compile the whole extension
g++, using "extern C" to expose unmangled symbols. You'll run into
some issues due to incompatible compiler flags, though:
$ PATH=$HOME/pg/95/bin:$PATH make USE_PGXS=1 CC=g++
g++ -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels
-Wmissing-format-attribute -Wformat-security -fno-strict-aliasing
-fwrapv -fexcess-precision=standard -O2 -fpic -I. -I./
-I/home/craig/pg/95/include/postgresql/server
-I/home/craig/pg/95/include/postgresql/internal -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o
worker_spi.o worker_spi.c
cc1plus: warning: command line option ‘-Wmissing-prototypes’ is valid
for C/ObjC but not for C++
cc1plus: warning: command line option ‘-Wdeclaration-after-statement’
is valid for C/ObjC but not for C++
cc1plus: sorry, unimplemented: -fexcess-precision=standard for C++
: recipe for target 'worker_spi.o' failed
make: *** [worker_spi.o] Error 1
> How exactly do you need to use the C++ code? The easiest probably would
> be to have a separate object file, built using your own makefile rule,
> that contains a the C++ and provides a C interface, and then use that
> from a background worker purely written in C.
This is what I would advise too.
It helps to separate the PostgreSQL bits from the C++ bits, providing
a clean interface across which exceptions are not thrown.
It isn't safe to access PostgreSQL API from within your C++ code
anyway, so the C++ code can be compiled without any PostgreSQL
includes, exposing a pure C interface that your extension can then
link to as just another library via PGXS's SHLIB_LINK option.
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Re: [HACKERS] How to compile, link and use a C++ extension
On 08/14/2015 02:10 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Yeah. The painful issues you're going to face are not that. They are
memory management (C++ "new" does not talk to palloc or vice versa)
and error handling ("throw" does not interoperate with PG_TRY()).
It's worse than that. Any use of longjmp() will cause undefined
behavior in C++. That's because each C++ object's destructor will not
be called (possibly other reasons, too).
I suggest looking at the PL/V8 code for an example of how to make C++
code work as a Postgres extension. IIRC they've made specific
trade-offs that might be useful for Jacques' use case too.
Yeah, although be aware that PLv8 still has odd buggy behaviours that I
am not sure are not related to some C/C++ impedance mismatch.
cheers
andrew
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Re: [HACKERS] How to compile, link and use a C++ extension
On 2015-08-14 11:10:14 -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Yeah. The painful issues you're going to face are not that. They are
> > memory management (C++ "new" does not talk to palloc or vice versa)
> > and error handling ("throw" does not interoperate with PG_TRY()).
>
> It's worse than that. Any use of longjmp() will cause undefined
> behavior in C++. That's because each C++ object's destructor will not
> be called (possibly other reasons, too).
Only if that longjmp goes through C++ code with non-POD objects. Which
you should pretty much never allow.
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Re: [HACKERS] How to compile, link and use a C++ extension
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Yeah. The painful issues you're going to face are not that. They are
> memory management (C++ "new" does not talk to palloc or vice versa)
> and error handling ("throw" does not interoperate with PG_TRY()).
It's worse than that. Any use of longjmp() will cause undefined
behavior in C++. That's because each C++ object's destructor will not
be called (possibly other reasons, too).
I suggest looking at the PL/V8 code for an example of how to make C++
code work as a Postgres extension. IIRC they've made specific
trade-offs that might be useful for Jacques' use case too.
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Re: [HACKERS] How to compile, link and use a C++ extension
Andres Freund writes:
> On 2015-08-14 18:38:36 +0200, jacques klein wrote:
>> However I coudn't find any doc. about how to solve the problem of linking
>> C++ code and libs into the .so of my extension,
>> and nothing to solve the runtime-loading problem of the c++ specific .so
>> files ( for ex. to make work a simple usage std::string )
> libstdc++ (or whatever your platform uses) should be automatically
> loaded, I don't think you'll need to worry about that.
Yeah. The painful issues you're going to face are not that. They are
memory management (C++ "new" does not talk to palloc or vice versa)
and error handling ("throw" does not interoperate with PG_TRY()).
If you can build a bulletproof interface layer between your C++ code and
the surrounding C-coded backend, you can make it work, but that part won't
be any fun. There's way too much temptation to just call assorted C-coded
functions from your C++, and *that won't work* with any reliability.
There are discussions of these issues in the pgsql-hackers archives.
regards, tom lane
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Re: [HACKERS] How to compile, link and use a C++ extension
Hi, On 2015-08-14 18:38:36 +0200, jacques klein wrote: > However I coudn't find any doc. about how to solve the problem of linking > C++ code and libs into the .so of my extension, > and nothing to solve the runtime-loading problem of the c++ specific .so > files ( for ex. to make work a simple usage std::string ) libstdc++ (or whatever your platform uses) should be automatically loaded, I don't think you'll need to worry about that. > I started my tests by cloning the contrib/worker_spi code, and when > transforming the code into C++, I could only note that C++ is not supported > in the provided Makefiles. Yes, that doesn't surprise me. Postgres itself doesn't need to care about looking for a usable C++ compiler et al. How exactly do you need to use the C++ code? The easiest probably would be to have a separate object file, built using your own makefile rule, that contains a the C++ and provides a C interface, and then use that from a background worker purely written in C. Greetings, Andres Freund -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
