Re: [SQL] Grass Root Protectionism
Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Boycott Tech Forums > wrote: > > I am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been > > unfairly treated with offshore software engineers who have the audacity to > > take our jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their > > technical challenges via Technical Forums (like this one). > > > > One solution is a bit of Grass Root Protectionism by boycotting technical > > forums. Perhaps if it takes an offshore engineer 2 hours to solve a problem, > > then the employer would see the real cost implication. > > > > I encourage American engineers who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to > > develop their skills not to give it away so freely. > > Without foreign engineers working on pgsql it wouldn't be nearly as > far along as it is today. It is larger than that. Without non-US developers, Postgres would be less than half what it is today, meaning that US Postgres users need to thank the non-US developers for their work over the past 12 years of community Postgres development. It is US people who are benefitting more from the relationship, not non-US people. This is true of many open source projects. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + -- Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (pgsql-sql@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-sql
Re: [SQL] Grass Root Protectionism
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:40:11 -0800 (PST) Boycott Tech Forums wrote: > I am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been unfairly > treated with offshore software engineers who have the audacity to take our > jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their technical > challenges via Technical Forums (like this one). Wow! Someone's email program is really borked. This message has obviously been stuck somewhere since the 19th century. Hey buddy, I know what I, a non-American, have done for this project. What have you done? What's next? Only help white folks? -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. -- Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (pgsql-sql@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-sql
Re: [SQL] Grass Root Protectionism
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: > What's next? Only help white folks? This guy doesn't really deserve being responded to. Just ignore him. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (pgsql-sql@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-sql
Re: [SQL] Grass Root Protectionism
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:39:26 -0500 Tom Lane wrote: > "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: > > What's next? Only help white folks? > > This guy doesn't really deserve being responded to. Just ignore him. Yes, as I was hitting the send key I wondered if he was just a troll but he managed to hit a few of my buttons. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't even reading this list. I removed him from this reply. Cheers. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. -- Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (pgsql-sql@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-sql
Re: [SQL] Grass Root Protectionism
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Boycott Tech Forums > wrote: >> I am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been >> unfairly treated with offshore software engineers who have the audacity to >> take our jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their >> technical challenges via Technical Forums (like this one). >> >> One solution is a bit of Grass Root Protectionism by boycotting technical >> forums. Perhaps if it takes an offshore engineer 2 hours to solve a problem, >> then the employer would see the real cost implication. >> >> I encourage American engineers who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to >> develop their skills not to give it away so freely. > > Without foreign engineers working on pgsql it wouldn't be nearly as > far along as it is today. > > I live and work in America, but I am not about to sign on to this shit. I don't think anyone should take this seriously. If your job is doing something that someone else can do almost as well, you're going to find yourself out of work once in a while. Hoarding trivial information is not going to help you with that - quite the opposite I think. Someone should point out to this "Senior Engineer" that America was built by foreigner labor. Heterogeneity is our greatest asset. But it's not going to be me because I think the whole thing is just a troll or an email harvester. I'm not sure which. Mike -- Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (pgsql-sql@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-sql
Re: [SQL] Grass Root Protectionism
Bruce Momjian writes: > Without non-US developers, Postgres would be less than half what it is > today Without non-US developers, Postgres would be _much_ less than half what it is today, just as it would be much less than half of what it is today without US developers. Cooperation, like trade, is a positive sum game. > It is US people who are benefitting more from the relationship, not > non-US people. All are benefitting. The notion that someone is "winning" and therefor someone else must be "losing" is the OP's false thesis. -- John Hasler j...@dhh.gt.org Elmwood, WI USA -- Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (pgsql-sql@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-sql
Re: [SQL] Grass Root Protectionism
D'Arcy J.M. Cain writes: > Hey buddy, I know what I, a non-American, have done for this project. > What have you done? I expect that this guy would tell you that all Free Software is evil and takes food out of the mouths of his children. -- John Hasler j...@dhh.gt.org Elmwood, WI USA -- Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (pgsql-sql@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-sql
