[Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3
Hi, Which library should I use for playing sounds in general and mp3 in particular? Thanks, Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury
[Pharo-dev] [GSoC ideas] Pharo
Ok, let's do this :) Hola Pharoers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Smalltalk, and Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! Guille
Re: [Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3
Hi Noury, You can use PharoSound. Here is the info for metacello: == spec project: 'Sound' with: [ spec className: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; file: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound' ; version: #stable; repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/Sound/main'. ]. == Jannik 2014-02-11 9:58 GMT+01:00 Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com: Hi, Which library should I use for playing sounds in general and mp3 in particular? Thanks, Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
[Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
Hi fellow Pharo hackers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill
[Pharo-dev] NB and assembly methods (WAS: a lot of non-constructive things I refuse to talk about :)
PS. I am hacking on protobuf in Pharo 3.0 and noticed cool NB assembler in some places - are such methods creeping into base libraries now? What does that mean for other CPUs? Sorry, for changing subject - feel free to reply under different subject. Hi Goran, Yes… since NB and Athens, there are some methods in assembler spread around. Is my opinion that all assembler-containing methods should be refactored into a more comprensible unit (and that can be changed by another set of assembly instrucction when we achieve multiplatform-NB). Today they are all along Athens, and if we continue this path they will be all along Pharo soon. I would better modularise that. But Igor maybe has something different to say :) Esteban
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
Project idea Description: Make Pharo a scripting language with its syntax and command-line tools (http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/) Skill level: intermediate Name of the mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fellow Pharo hackers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] Re: GSoC: call for ideas
Ahh I started a while ago another thread that said Pharo in the subject as adviced! :/ Should we keep this one or that one? On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: Project idea Description: Make Pharo a scripting language with its syntax and command-line tools (http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/) Skill level: intermediate Name of the mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fellow Pharo hackers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
Project idea Description: Integrate Git inside Pharo Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fellow Pharo hackers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] Re: GSoC: call for ideas
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh I started a while ago another thread that said Pharo in the subject as adviced! :/ Should we keep this one or that one? we can keep both I guess. Sorry about that, I didn't pay attention. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] [GSoC ideas] Pharo
Project idea Description: let users reorganize a group of changes into separate meaningful commits Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, let's do this :) Hola Pharoers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Smalltalk, and Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! Guille -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill
[Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
I try really hard to move to 3.0 at the moment. To me versionner became that important that this is a requirement for me to change the version. I’m testing the bleeding edge version of versionner in 3.0 and this looks really cool. But somehow I cannot create a development version of my project. Whatever I try the only thing I can achieve is that versionner is producing a new baseline method. I used all of the three buttons at the top and did also examine all of the menus (those that work). Any hints? Norbert
Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
hi Norbert. did you noticed that versionner is *already* in the image? cheers, Esteban On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: I try really hard to move to 3.0 at the moment. To me versionner became that important that this is a requirement for me to change the version. I’m testing the bleeding edge version of versionner in 3.0 and this looks really cool. But somehow I cannot create a development version of my project. Whatever I try the only thing I can achieve is that versionner is producing a new baseline method. I used all of the three buttons at the top and did also examine all of the menus (those that work). Any hints? Norbert
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] [GSoC ideas] Pharo
* New Pharo look and feel Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) Details: There have been already some efforts for making pharo look less alien for newcomers [1]. This project will be about designing a new welcoming interface/desktop. Examples of this would be a new search bar probably based on the work of Sean de Nigris [2], get rid of the unintuitive world menu and replace it by a more visible variant, and make the shortcuts consistent all over the system. [1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/New-Pharo-IDE/ [2] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~SeanDeNigris/SeansPlayground On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: Project idea Description: let users reorganize a group of changes into separate meaningful commits Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, let's do this :) Hola Pharoers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Smalltalk, and Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! Guille -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] [GSoC ideas] Pharo
* Revisiting morphic widgets Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) Current widgets in morphic are not easily identifiable: the existance of the vanilla and Pluggable* forms makes it complex. Also, common behavior between widgets is scattered around. This project will aim to visit and refactor morphic widgets: - repackaging them - identifying and removing duplications - removing the #update: #changed mechanism and replace it by a - writes examples and documentation for people willing to write desktop applications in Pharo On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: * New Pharo look and feel Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) Details: There have been already some efforts for making pharo look less alien for newcomers [1]. This project will be about designing a new welcoming interface/desktop. Examples of this would be a new search bar probably based on the work of Sean de Nigris [2], get rid of the unintuitive world menu and replace it by a more visible variant, and make the shortcuts consistent all over the system. [1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/New-Pharo-IDE/ [2] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~SeanDeNigris/SeansPlayground On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: Project idea Description: let users reorganize a group of changes into separate meaningful commits Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, let's do this :) Hola Pharoers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Smalltalk, and Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! Guille -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] [GSoC ideas] Pharo
* New Pharo Text Model Skill level: advanced Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) maybe Igor Stasenko? Pharo transition to vector graphics needs a new TextModel. Some work related was done by Dennis and Igor [1] and Alain Plantec [2]. However, polishing and Athens integration is still waiting. In this project the student will look at the existing work and get a polished solution, integrate it with existing tools and Athens. Also, it is desirable to pay attention to Mars compatibility. [1] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sig/TxText [2] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~AlainPlantec/Rubric On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: * Revisiting morphic widgets Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) Current widgets in morphic are not easily identifiable: the existance of the vanilla and Pluggable* forms makes it complex. Also, common behavior between widgets is scattered around. This project will aim to visit and refactor morphic widgets: - repackaging them - identifying and removing duplications - removing the #update: #changed mechanism and replace it by a - writes examples and documentation for people willing to write desktop applications in Pharo On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: * New Pharo look and feel Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) Details: There have been already some efforts for making pharo look less alien for newcomers [1]. This project will be about designing a new welcoming interface/desktop. Examples of this would be a new search bar probably based on the work of Sean de Nigris [2], get rid of the unintuitive world menu and replace it by a more visible variant, and make the shortcuts consistent all over the system. [1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/New-Pharo-IDE/ [2] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~SeanDeNigris/SeansPlayground On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: Project idea Description: let users reorganize a group of changes into separate meaningful commits Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, let's do this :) Hola Pharoers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Smalltalk, and Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! Guille -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[Pharo-dev] Issue 12832 OpalCompiler / Debugger
Ben, Camille, can you take a look at this code |a b| a:='String'. b:='t'. a collectWithIndex:[:c :i | c b] Debug this code and step over until you reach the collectWithIndex: method, the context inspector will show a,b,c,i even though only a and b are in the current scope. And it'll show the wrong values a-'String' b-'String' c-'String' i-'t' (This does not happen with old compiler and it does not happen in 307052)
Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
Am 11.02.2014 um 10:07 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: hi Norbert. did you noticed that versionner is *already* in the image? Hahaha…no :) That’s soo me! Ok, but it does not have much influence on my question. I still don’t get how to just create a new development version or a new version at all. Norbert cheers, Esteban On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: I try really hard to move to 3.0 at the moment. To me versionner became that important that this is a requirement for me to change the version. I’m testing the bleeding edge version of versionner in 3.0 and this looks really cool. But somehow I cannot create a development version of my project. Whatever I try the only thing I can achieve is that versionner is producing a new baseline method. I used all of the three buttons at the top and did also examine all of the menus (those that work). Any hints? Norbert
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] [GSoC ideas] Pharo
Title: Quartz backend for Athens framework Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) Intermediate Possible mentor: (can be assigned later) Esteban Lorenzano Possible second mentor: (can be assigned later) Description Athens is a vectorial graphics library that supports different backends but now is restrained to Cairo. Also, current implementation uses NativeBoost, who at the time generates and executes dynamic code. This combination mades impossible to use the framework for iPad/iPhone applications and we have need to support them. The project then is to create a new backend for the Athens library that can be used both in macs and ipad/iphone platforms. Technical Details The student need to study the current Athens-Balloon and Athens-Cairoo implementation, and the Ballon plugin, to produce a Quartz plugin and to create the Athens extension to use it. Benefits to the Student The student will understand the plugin architecture and how it interacts with the environment, also he will have internals on native boost and vectorial libraries. Benefits to the Community The community will gain the ability of develop better applications for ipad/iphone mobile platforms. thanks, Esteban On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:42, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: * New Pharo Text Model Skill level: advanced Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) maybe Igor Stasenko? Pharo transition to vector graphics needs a new TextModel. Some work related was done by Dennis and Igor [1] and Alain Plantec [2]. However, polishing and Athens integration is still waiting. In this project the student will look at the existing work and get a polished solution, integrate it with existing tools and Athens. Also, it is desirable to pay attention to Mars compatibility. [1] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sig/TxText [2] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~AlainPlantec/Rubric On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: * Revisiting morphic widgets Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) Current widgets in morphic are not easily identifiable: the existance of the vanilla and Pluggable* forms makes it complex. Also, common behavior between widgets is scattered around. This project will aim to visit and refactor morphic widgets: - repackaging them - identifying and removing duplications - removing the #update: #changed mechanism and replace it by a - writes examples and documentation for people willing to write desktop applications in Pharo On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: * New Pharo look and feel Mentor: Guillermo Polito (guillermopol...@gmail.com) Details: There have been already some efforts for making pharo look less alien for newcomers [1]. This project will be about designing a new welcoming interface/desktop. Examples of this would be a new search bar probably based on the work of Sean de Nigris [2], get rid of the unintuitive world menu and replace it by a more visible variant, and make the shortcuts consistent all over the system. [1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/New-Pharo-IDE/ [2] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~SeanDeNigris/SeansPlayground On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Project idea Description: let users reorganize a group of changes into separate meaningful commits Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, let's do this :) Hola Pharoers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Smalltalk, and Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! Guille -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Damien
Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
heh… answer that is Christophe's work :) On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:54, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 11.02.2014 um 10:07 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: hi Norbert. did you noticed that versionner is *already* in the image? Hahaha…no :) That’s soo me! Ok, but it does not have much influence on my question. I still don’t get how to just create a new development version or a new version at all. Norbert cheers, Esteban On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: I try really hard to move to 3.0 at the moment. To me versionner became that important that this is a requirement for me to change the version. I’m testing the bleeding edge version of versionner in 3.0 and this looks really cool. But somehow I cannot create a development version of my project. Whatever I try the only thing I can achieve is that versionner is producing a new baseline method. I used all of the three buttons at the top and did also examine all of the menus (those that work). Any hints? Norbert
Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to change the color of the window
yes I feared that things would be hard coded. But the Vistary theme dramatically changes the look of the windows, so it cant be that hard coded. Unless windows treat Vistary theme in some special way but I find that doubtful. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:22 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.bewrote: What I noticed is that some parts are using the Theme but the only theme that provides them is the Watery one. So, the rest looks like hardcoded. Esteban, do you have some kind of changeset ? Phil On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: On 10 Feb 2014, at 21:11, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: *Esteban has started a dark theme based on Darcula.* *I am eager to see/get some code based on that as a dark theme is really interesting for me due to eye problems.* *I tried with 2.0 but frankly, it is a massive mess to get things to diplay properly.* *One thing I did to see where things where happening is that I made Color white to respond something like a nuclear green instead of white and see where it was showing.* *Then you can pick the morphs and browse them. That's where you start crying.* *3.0 should be in a better shape.* yes its really a huge pile of mess this Morphic and close to no documentation does not make it any easier. It looks like I will not be avoiding creating my own GUI API on top of Athens which has some minimum documentation. Which will make my project tons of work or I will have to port probably back to python and using something like PyQT. I love Pharo and enjoy coding in it, but libraries are seriously hard to use because they are very messy and with very little to none documentation. I remember Esteban's dark theme, but I think it was more like an experiment than an ongoing project. oh well... is ongoing but with my times... I don't know when I will be able to continue it :( Esteban *Looks like colors have got a significant change...* *So, try:* *Color registerColor: (Color r: 0.0 g:1.0 b:0.0) named: #white.* *and things will be very green.* it would not be making much difference because I am not using color names but RGB values. Also I tried your approach, and though I can change white to another color and see the effect on window the color of the window remains unchangeable and I tried all types of Greys. By the way the veryVeryDarkGrey message had me laughing a lot. I propose the additions of the veryVeryVeryVeryVeryDarkGray and superDuperUberMaxGrey to be on the safe side :D *Hi.* *The default settings are remembered in a class instance variable so that they can be changed according to (user) preference.* *If you make a change to #newDefaultSettings you should send #resetDefaultSettings to your theme class* *so that they get reinitialized when next required (when an instance of your theme is next created).* *Hope that helps.* *Regards, Gary* Two problem with your proposition a) None of the theme classes use this message in the initialisation b) MNU maybe a Pharo 2 message that went MIA ? In any case I continue to study Morphic and see what will come out of this, not so pleasant , experience. Thank you all for your help.
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] [GSoC ideas] Pharo
Porting Spec from Pharo to Amber. This can include finishing an Amber widget library named Moka, as well as porting Spec to Amber and plug it by default on Moka. Dialects involved: Pharo, Amber Skill level: Intermediate Mentors: Benjamin Van Ryseghem ( benjamin.vanryseg...@gmail.com ) and Nicolas Petton Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Ben Nico
Re: [Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3
For mp3s, I started wrapping the FMOD library with NB. It's on sthub. I ported enough to play an mp3 and porting other features should be straightforward at this point... HTH - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Playing-an-mp3-tp4742737p4742774.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 Status Video from Fosdem on Youtube
Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, The Pharo3 Status presentation is online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=son_bhZ93ec Marcus Really nice talk. One small enhancement, with the CI slide you spoke about16,000 tests being run each update. Consider writing that into the slides. cheers, Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] [GSoC ideas] Pharo
Phratch development with Arduino Description: Allowing to develop easily application for Arduino. As for http://s4a.cat/, but with a better integration with the Phratch environment Skill level: intermediate Mentors: Jannik Laval, Philippe Back 2014-02-11 11:04 GMT+01:00 Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com: Project idea Description: let users reorganize a group of changes into separate meaningful commits Skill level: intermediate Mentor: Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, let's do this :) Hola Pharoers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Smalltalk, and Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! Guille -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] GSoC: call for ideas
- (*Intermediate*) *Amber* - *Pharo* interaction via WebSocket. Specifically, Pharo as IDE for Amber -- as continuation of http://gsoc2013.esug.org/projects/amber-tools and http://gsoc2012.esug.org/projects/mmi-amber. Use new tools (Glamorous Toolkit, for example). - (*Advanced*) Boundless and zoomable interfaces with *Pharo*. Continuation of http://gsoc2012.esug.org/projects/esse using Athens [ https://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Athens]. This can be further development of the Esse presentation framework, or creating some development tools for Pharo. - (*Intermediate*) Implementation of Object Semantic Networks as a new knowledge-representation engine to be used inside *Pharo* (for various purposes). This task can include development of web interface for the system using *Amber*. Please, contact me directly for details. Dennis Schetinin email: chae...@gmail.com skype: dennis.schetinin -- Best regards, Dennis Schetinin 2014-02-11 13:42 GMT+04:00 Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com: Hi fellow Pharo hackers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Smalltalk GSoC mentors group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3
Hi Jannik, I searched on Smalltalkhub before sending my email. I noticed the project, but it is written : midi sound piano roll. So, I thought it does not support mp3. Noury On 11 févr. 2014, at 10:11, jannik laval wrote: Hi Noury, You can use PharoSound. Here is the info for metacello: == spec project: 'Sound' with: [ spec className: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; file: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound' ; version: #stable; repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/Sound/main'. ]. == Jannik 2014-02-11 9:58 GMT+01:00 Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com: Hi, Which library should I use for playing sounds in general and mp3 in particular? Thanks, Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/ Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury
Re: [Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3
Thanks Sean. Sounds cool. Noury On 11 févr. 2014, at 14:44, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: For mp3s, I started wrapping the FMOD library with NB. It's on sthub. I ported enough to play an mp3 and porting other features should be straightforward at this point... HTH - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Playing-an-mp3-tp4742737p4742774.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury
Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
Hi Norbert, Le 11 févr. 2014 à 11:05, Norbert Hartl a écrit : I try really hard to move to 3.0 at the moment. To me versionner became that important that this is a requirement for me to change the version. I’m testing the bleeding edge version of versionner in 3.0 and this looks really cool. But somehow I cannot create a development version of my project. Whatever I try the only thing I can achieve is that versionner is producing a new baseline method. I used all of the three buttons at the top and did also examine all of the menus (those that work). Any hints? I wrote a small documentation on Versionner: http://chercheurs.lille.inria.fr/~demarey/Tech/Versionner. With Versionner, a development version is always a baseline. If none is found, it will create one from the selected version. Why is it a baseline? because you don't want to update your configuration each time you publish new packages. When you are ready to release, Versionner creates: a numbered version with fixed packages revisions, and the next development version (a baseline). Tell me if you need more information. Regards, Christophe. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Pharo-dev] How I feel
It is a marathon on unknown paths. Those boot may come useful along the way. ObjC was given up for dead long time ago. A true miracle happened and now it is number three. Since it has roots in Smalltalk, let's try to find ways to take advantage of that. Smalltalk is still the best development environment. I won't switch until there is something better. I have faith in it. All the best, Aik-Siong Koh -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-I-feel-tp4742729p4742793.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3
Ok the description is not good. In phratch, I can load MP3. Jannik 2014-02-11 15:30 GMT+01:00 Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com: Thanks Sean. Sounds cool. Noury On 11 févr. 2014, at 14:44, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: For mp3s, I started wrapping the FMOD library with NB. It's on sthub. I ported enough to play an mp3 and porting other features should be straightforward at this point... HTH - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Playing-an-mp3-tp4742737p4742774.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
Am 11.02.2014 um 14:48 schrieb Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr: Hi Norbert, Le 11 févr. 2014 à 11:05, Norbert Hartl a écrit : I try really hard to move to 3.0 at the moment. To me versionner became that important that this is a requirement for me to change the version. I’m testing the bleeding edge version of versionner in 3.0 and this looks really cool. But somehow I cannot create a development version of my project. Whatever I try the only thing I can achieve is that versionner is producing a new baseline method. I used all of the three buttons at the top and did also examine all of the menus (those that work). Any hints? I wrote a small documentation on Versionner: http://chercheurs.lille.inria.fr/~demarey/Tech/Versionner. With Versionner, a development version is always a baseline. If none is found, it will create one from the selected version. Why is it a baseline? because you don't want to update your configuration each time you publish new packages. When you are ready to release, Versionner creates: a numbered version with fixed packages revisions, and the next development version (a baseline). Tell me if you need more information. I’m not sure I understand. On the symbolic version front we have bleedingEdge that is loading a baseline without exact version information (it loads the newest packages). Then we have development versions that have specific package versions but are not released (not tagged stable). And we have releases that have a sense of to-be-published. Now we have only baselines/development and released versions? I liked to have the three levels because it matches all the requirements in my workflow. That is baseline = development, development = be used by other projects/collaborators before it is released, stable = ready to be released. Anyway if it is the case that there is only baseline and released version I do not understand why the versions are having the blessing development. How are those supposed to be tagged stable? At the moment I find it quite confusing how it is. I need maybe one or two more hints. Norbert
Re: [Pharo-dev] NB and assembly methods (WAS: a lot of non-constructive things I refuse to talk about :)
On 11 February 2014 10:56, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: PS. I am hacking on protobuf in Pharo 3.0 and noticed cool NB assembler in some places - are such methods creeping into base libraries now? What does that mean for other CPUs? Sorry, for changing subject - feel free to reply under different subject. Hi Goran, Yes… since NB and Athens, there are some methods in assembler spread around. Is my opinion that all assembler-containing methods should be refactored into a more comprensible unit (and that can be changed by another set of assembly instrucction when we achieve multiplatform-NB). Today they are all along Athens, and if we continue this path they will be all along Pharo soon. I would better modularise that. But Igor maybe has something different to say :) Esteban not much to add to what i already been said: - have any other CPU which can run pharo JIT? No? Will talk when it will be available. Doing anything before that is just waste of time. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
Re: [Pharo-dev] NB and assembly methods (WAS: a lot of non-constructive things I refuse to talk about :)
On 11 February 2014 10:56, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: PS. I am hacking on protobuf in Pharo 3.0 and noticed cool NB assembler in some places - are such methods creeping into base libraries now? What does that mean for other CPUs? Sorry, for changing subject - feel free to reply under different subject. (replying Goran) Depends what you calling base libraries. Kernel, basic I/O is clean of it , and there's good reasons for keeping things that way. And because i know how painful it can be to maintain custom assembler code, i would never use it if i could have better alternative. Oh.. what i trying to prove: i just using it because i can :P But it is of course for projects which under my direct control.. i didn't rewrote random parts of Pharo with assembler code.. and never will. :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] GSoC: call for ideas
Hey guys. 1. Implicit variable declarations support in FAST Make FAST to work with one of the languages that do not have explicit declaration of variables. Preferable target language is Javascript. This should move FAST to new horizons. advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com, Anne Etien anne.et...@univ-lille1.fr 2. Interaction API for Roassal. Provide a nice api of Roassal to filter, select, delete, group… etc elements. This will be extra useful for reverse engineering tools. advanced - complex Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com 3. Tools to work with resources (non-text data). Even if serialising it as code is not a good solution we can make tools to load, serialise resources to code… easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com 4. Preferences persistence. Now prefs are only working while you are on the same image. We can put a button: save for all images, and serialise prefs to conf. folder when this button is checked. The same goes for user name. Why not to put checkbox: “Save for all next images”. This way we won’t have a lot of clones in monticello and make user’s life easier. You can use a startup scripts, but this is not cool. easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com Cheers Uko On 11 Feb 2014, at 10:42, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fellow Pharo hackers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
Hey guys. 1. Implicit variable declarations support in FAST Make FAST to work with one of the languages that do not have explicit declaration of variables. Preferable target language is Javascript. This should move FAST to new horizons. advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com, Anne Etien anne.et...@univ-lille1.fr 2. Interaction API for Roassal. Provide a nice api of Roassal to filter, select, delete, group… etc elements. This will be extra useful for reverse engineering tools. advanced - complex Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com 3. Tools to work with resources (non-text data). Even if serialising it as code is not a good solution we can make tools to load, serialise resources to code… easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com 4. Preferences persistence. Now prefs are only working while you are on the same image. We can put a button: save for all images, and serialise prefs to conf. folder when this button is checked. The same goes for user name. Why not to put checkbox: “Save for all next images”. This way we won’t have a lot of clones in monticello and make user’s life easier. You can use a startup scripts, but this is not cool. easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com Cheers Uko On 11 Feb 2014, at 10:42, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fellow Pharo hackers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use Reply to all) if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
4. Preferences persistence. Now prefs are only working while you are on the same image. We can put a button: save for all images, and serialise prefs to conf. folder when this button is checked. The same goes for user name. Why not to put checkbox: “Save for all next images”. This way we won’t have a lot of clones in monticello and make user’s life easier. You can use a startup scripts, but this is not cool. easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com In Settings there is a button Export which (should) export all you settings into your preferences file and therefore be spread among images. Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:49, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: 4. Preferences persistence. Now prefs are only working while you are on the same image. We can put a button: save for all images, and serialise prefs to conf. folder when this button is checked. The same goes for user name. Why not to put checkbox: “Save for all next images”. This way we won’t have a lot of clones in monticello and make user’s life easier. You can use a startup scripts, but this is not cool. easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com In Settings there is a button Export which (should) export all you settings into your preferences file and therefore be spread among images. Did you implement it? Uko Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:51, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:49, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: 4. Preferences persistence. Now prefs are only working while you are on the same image. We can put a button: save for all images, and serialise prefs to conf. folder when this button is checked. The same goes for user name. Why not to put checkbox: “Save for all next images”. This way we won’t have a lot of clones in monticello and make user’s life easier. You can use a startup scripts, but this is not cool. easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com In Settings there is a button Export which (should) export all you settings into your preferences file and therefore be spread among images. Did you implement it? I did, months ago :) Ben Uko Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
On 11 Feb 2014, at 17:12, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:51, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:49, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: 4. Preferences persistence. Now prefs are only working while you are on the same image. We can put a button: save for all images, and serialise prefs to conf. folder when this button is checked. The same goes for user name. Why not to put checkbox: “Save for all next images”. This way we won’t have a lot of clones in monticello and make user’s life easier. You can use a startup scripts, but this is not cool. easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com In Settings there is a button Export which (should) export all you settings into your preferences file and therefore be spread among images. Did you implement it? I did, months ago :) year(s) ago, in fact :) Ben Uko Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
On 11 Feb 2014, at 17:12, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:51, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:49, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: 4. Preferences persistence. Now prefs are only working while you are on the same image. We can put a button: save for all images, and serialise prefs to conf. folder when this button is checked. The same goes for user name. Why not to put checkbox: “Save for all next images”. This way we won’t have a lot of clones in monticello and make user’s life easier. You can use a startup scripts, but this is not cool. easy - advanced Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com In Settings there is a button Export which (should) export all you settings into your preferences file and therefore be spread among images. Did you implement it? I did, months ago :) Ben C’est cool. Thank you Ben. I had some more ideas like making a common STON format for prefs. But maybe you have some more ideas. Or we can just kill this proposal. Uko Uko Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
It's hard to think this one through without use cases… On the positive, it may be better to mark every numbered version as #'release' and then use semantic versioning to update if you run into trouble (i.e. release 2.0 and if you have to adjust the packages, 2.0.1). Because now that we have stable versions, there seem to be two competing systems - the tag of the numbered version and the symbolic version. In practice, it looks like a lot of numbered versions never get updated (i.e. versions that are symbolic #'stable' are not #'release' in the version spec) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharo-3-0-versionner-and-creating-a-development-version-tp4742756p4742849.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
Le 11 févr. 2014 à 16:15, Norbert Hartl a écrit : Am 11.02.2014 um 14:48 schrieb Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr: Hi Norbert, Le 11 févr. 2014 à 11:05, Norbert Hartl a écrit : I try really hard to move to 3.0 at the moment. To me versionner became that important that this is a requirement for me to change the version. I’m testing the bleeding edge version of versionner in 3.0 and this looks really cool. But somehow I cannot create a development version of my project. Whatever I try the only thing I can achieve is that versionner is producing a new baseline method. I used all of the three buttons at the top and did also examine all of the menus (those that work). Any hints? I wrote a small documentation on Versionner: http://chercheurs.lille.inria.fr/~demarey/Tech/Versionner. With Versionner, a development version is always a baseline. If none is found, it will create one from the selected version. Why is it a baseline? because you don't want to update your configuration each time you publish new packages. When you are ready to release, Versionner creates: a numbered version with fixed packages revisions, and the next development version (a baseline). Tell me if you need more information. I’m not sure I understand. On the symbolic version front we have bleedingEdge that is loading a baseline without exact version information (it loads the newest packages). Then we have development versions that have specific package versions but are not released (not tagged stable). And we have releases that have a sense of to-be-published. Now we have only baselines/development and released versions? Yes. It is quite strange to have three levels of stability. A few users use that and we tried to find a simple process to manage configurations. As in many other languages, you develop, release, then develop again. In another way, I can also understand that you prefer another process or that you need an extra level. I liked to have the three levels because it matches all the requirements in my workflow. That is baseline = development, development = be used by other projects/collaborators before it is released, stable = ready to be released. your definition of the development version looks like a release-candidate. Why not publish (yes release ;) ) a RC version for this purpose? Anyway if it is the case that there is only baseline and released version I do not understand why the versions are having the blessing development. How are those supposed to be tagged stable? They shouldn't. I fixed that friday and it will be integrated soon. At the moment I find it quite confusing how it is. I need maybe one or two more hints. I understand. Versionner was thought to encourage people to follow a workflow that may be different of their current one. But there is still place to discussion, move and adding some other functionalities. Versionner needs feedback and will evolve from feedback. Thanks, Christophe. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 versionner and creating a development version
Am 11.02.2014 um 16:43 schrieb Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr: Le 11 févr. 2014 à 16:15, Norbert Hartl a écrit : Am 11.02.2014 um 14:48 schrieb Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr: Hi Norbert, Le 11 févr. 2014 à 11:05, Norbert Hartl a écrit : I try really hard to move to 3.0 at the moment. To me versionner became that important that this is a requirement for me to change the version. I’m testing the bleeding edge version of versionner in 3.0 and this looks really cool. But somehow I cannot create a development version of my project. Whatever I try the only thing I can achieve is that versionner is producing a new baseline method. I used all of the three buttons at the top and did also examine all of the menus (those that work). Any hints? I wrote a small documentation on Versionner: http://chercheurs.lille.inria.fr/~demarey/Tech/Versionner. With Versionner, a development version is always a baseline. If none is found, it will create one from the selected version. Why is it a baseline? because you don't want to update your configuration each time you publish new packages. When you are ready to release, Versionner creates: a numbered version with fixed packages revisions, and the next development version (a baseline). Tell me if you need more information. I’m not sure I understand. On the symbolic version front we have bleedingEdge that is loading a baseline without exact version information (it loads the newest packages). Then we have development versions that have specific package versions but are not released (not tagged stable). And we have releases that have a sense of to-be-published. Now we have only baselines/development and released versions? Yes. It is quite strange to have three levels of stability. A few users use that and we tried to find a simple process to manage configurations. As in many other languages, you develop, release, then develop again. In another way, I can also understand that you prefer another process or that you need an extra level. I liked to have the three levels because it matches all the requirements in my workflow. That is baseline = development, development = be used by other projects/collaborators before it is released, stable = ready to be released. your definition of the development version looks like a release-candidate. Why not publish (yes release ;) ) a RC version for this purpose? Anyway if it is the case that there is only baseline and released version I do not understand why the versions are having the blessing development. How are those supposed to be tagged stable? They shouldn't. I fixed that friday and it will be integrated soon. At the moment I find it quite confusing how it is. I need maybe one or two more hints. I understand. Versionner was thought to encourage people to follow a workflow that may be different of their current one. But there is still place to discussion, move and adding some other functionalities. Versionner needs feedback and will evolve from feedback. Ok. What I wrote above is just what I’m used to and what is my current way of working. But I must confess that this extra level of mine is probably not necessary. At least it complicates things and you can always argue that if you want three then the next one wants to have four levels. I need to think about a way how to build up my workflow on top of versionner not within. thanks for the great work! The new UI looks really great! Norbert
Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas
On 11 Feb 2014, at 17:28, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: C’est cool. Thank you Ben. I had some more ideas like making a common STON format for prefs. But maybe you have some more ideas. Or we can just kill this proposal.\\ Maybe we should discuss it then :) Ben
[Pharo-dev] Fosdem Videos and Pharo. 4 presentation
Hi, The videos from FOSDEM website also include a video from Marcuss presentation about PHARO 4. Unfortunately the video starts with the title Marcus Denker and Pharo 4 but include the presentation about another talk about Objectivesmalltalk which is therefore available twice. Dont know who recorded or did the postprocessing of the videos. Anyone able to correct this and upload the correct presentation about PHARO4. Thx T. sent from outer space using a Pharo driven mobile phone
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] ScriptManager 1.7 Release for upcoming Pharo 3.0
Hi Torsten, On 11 Feb 2014, at 22:12, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Thanks to Sven van Caekenberghe the ScriptManager tool hosted in project http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/ScriptManager/ now also provides the ability to import/export not only to a single binary fuel file but also to a folder with readable scripts. This is a good idea and may also help to use external editors or versioning systems like git or others on the custom scripts. I also reworked the menues to be in alignment with the common style and polished the package for Pharo 3.0 as a new release version 1.7. Just open the config browser in Pharo 3.0 and load ScriptManager. After loading it will be available under Tools - ScriptManager. Have fun T. Thanks for including this. The only 'issue' that I had is that the line end convention used for writing the workspaces is CR (at least on my Mac), which is not cool when you want to work with the files outside the image (should be Unix style LF). Now, the File Browser does the same when creating files, as does Workspace when exporting. That is why I left it like that. BTW: I have been using your Bootstrap code all day long and it is seriously cool - I will have feedback in the coming weeks ;-) Sven
Re: [Pharo-dev] Fosdem Videos and Pharo. 4 presentation
Hi: On 11 Feb 2014, at 23:53, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: The videos from FOSDEM website also include a video from Marcus's presentation about PHARO 4. Unfortunately the video starts with the title Marcus Denker and Pharo 4 but include the presentation about another talk about Objectivesmalltalk which is therefore available twice. These videos are not yet final: https://fosdem.org/2014/news/2014-02-03-videos/ https://fosdem.org/2014/news/2014-02-06-first-videos/ Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr INRIA Lille - Nord Europe http://stefan-marr.de/research/
[Pharo-dev] CI Build Slaves ?
Hi, Does anyone know when all CI Build Slaves will become available again ? Right now, I seems at least Windows is no longer there. It is a bit hard to do integrations like that. Thx, Sven
Re: [Pharo-dev] Fosdem Videos and Pharo. 4 presentation
Hi, They already know it, but they are busy. be patient On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 08:06:03PM -0200, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: Hi, the following video http://video.fosdem.org/2014/K4401/Saturday/Pharo4_Plans_and_Dreams.webm doesn't contain the presentation by marcus denker, instead it contains the Objective Smalltalk presentation by Marcel Weiher. Could someone fix this, please? Thanks for letting us know. The video team will take a look as soon as they can, but please understand if it takes a while as they are still busy!
