Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 24 Jan 2017, at 13:39, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> 
> I also have has issues with FT fonts that were not named the same on various 
> boxes.
> 
> For example, the Hack font installed a few months ago on one machine had 
> names like "Hack-Oblique.ttf" and are not named like "Hack-Italic.ttf" on the 
> new installs. So, there is a primitive error showing up and blocking the 
> image.
> 
> Not saying that is the cause of other troubles but there should be a way to 
> switch back to in image fonts if such a case arises.
> 
> This for sure caused me a few headaches.

yep, but this is not a VM issue. 
In this case is correct that primitive fails… is just that FT2 image side 
doesn’t know how to manage the problem :(
So we need an issue with this, but I wouldn’t say is a blocking point to move 
latest to stable.

Esteban

> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Esteban Lorenzano  > wrote:
> Hi guys, 
> 
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 
> 
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 
> 
> I have this issues in mind: 
> 
> No write right on Windows with the new VM 
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] 
> 
>   -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: 
> http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289 
> , plus a fix Phil sent me. 
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows 
> 
> 
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
> 
> cheers, 
> Esteban
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 24 Jan 2017, at 13:34, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> 
> I am going to do some 64 bit in the coming weeks as I need to wrap a 64 bit 
> library using UnifiedFFI.

I’m working right now on having FFI-Kernel to work (the backend), because there 
are some problems with it. 
UFFI *should* be working right after (I already made the parts I think are 
needed on that side).

but VM 64bits + UFFI will need testing phase… maybe your bindings would be a 
good starting point :)

Esteban

> 
> Phil
> 
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Esteban Lorenzano  > wrote:
> 
>> On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:12, Thierry Goubier > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano > >:
>> Hi guys, 
>> 
>> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 
>> 
>> I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I have 
>> a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to work 
>> without segfaults from the command line).
> 
> - yes… sadly 64bit still will not reach stable
>   - and without reports, I cannot take action ;)
> - compiling is not harder than before, just instructions are not updated... 
> and in any case, that’s not a problem with moving latest to stable :P
> 
> Esteban
> 
>> 
>> Thierry
>>  
>> 
>> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 
>> 
>> I have this issues in mind: 
>> 
>> No write right on Windows with the new VM 
>> 
>> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] 
>> 
>>   -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: 
>> http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289 
>> , plus a fix Phil sent me. 
>> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows 
>> 
>> 
>> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>> 
>> cheers, 
>> Esteban
>> 
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[p...@highoctane.be]

I also have has issues with FT fonts that were not named the same on
various boxes.

For example, the Hack font installed a few months ago on one machine had
names like "Hack-Oblique.ttf" and are not named like "Hack-Italic.ttf" on
the new installs. So, there is a primitive error showing up and blocking
the image.

Not saying that is the cause of other troubles but there should be a way to
switch back to in image fonts if such a case arises.

This for sure caused me a few headaches.

Phil


On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Esteban Lorenzano 
wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>
> I have this issues in mind:
>
> No write right on Windows with the new VM
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]
> 
> -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.
> eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
> 
>
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[p...@highoctane.be]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Torsten Bergmann  wrote:

> HI Esteban,
>
> can you be more specific what the problem with "OSWindows" is?
>
> I guess you refer to my project "OSWindows" which is in Catalog and in
> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS/
> and belongs to my operating system series (OSWindows, OSLinuxUbuntu,
> OSUnix, OSOSX, OSRaspbian, ...) which
> is about wrapping native APIs and providing easier Pharo work on the
> different platforms.
> Each aspect of this project is covered by unit tests and it should be
> possible to find out what the problem is.
> If you remember it was a good testbed to find issues in UFFI.
>
> But maybe you refer to another project. Because there is also an
> "OSWindow" (without "s") project done later by Ronie
> Salgado which is about accessing a platform window from Pharo. This one is
> at: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OSWindow
>
> Still I wished that Ronie would have choosen a different name as this is
> now often very confusing
> to people to distinguish between "OSWindows" and "OSWindow".
> "NativeWindow" or something like that
> would have been better for what it is all about...
>

What about "HostWindow"?

Phil


>
> Thanks
> Torsten
>
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 24. Januar 2017 um 10:58 Uhr
> *Von:* "Esteban Lorenzano" 
> *An:* "Pharo Development List" 
> *Betreff:* Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I
> need feedback !
> btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the
> short term as is… please do not point to that :)
>
> Esteban
>
>
> On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano  wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>
> I have this issues in mind:
>
> No write right on Windows with the new VM
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]
> 
> -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.
> eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
> 
>
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[p...@highoctane.be]

I am going to do some 64 bit in the coming weeks as I need to wrap a 64 bit
library using UnifiedFFI.

Phil

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Esteban Lorenzano 
wrote:

>
> On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:12, Thierry Goubier 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> 2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>>
>
> I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I
> have a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to
> work without segfaults from the command line).
>
>
> - yes… sadly 64bit still will not reach stable
> - and without reports, I cannot take action ;)
> - compiling is not harder than before, just instructions are not
> updated... and in any case, that’s not a problem with moving latest to
> stable :P
>
> Esteban
>
>
> Thierry
>
>
>>
>> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>>
>> I have this issues in mind:
>>
>> No write right on Windows with the new VM
>> 
>> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]
>> 
>> -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here:
>> http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
>> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
>> 
>>
>> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Esteban
>>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Tudor Girba]

Hi,

Esteban and I are referring to OS-Window (the graphical component).

Cheers,
Doru


> On Jan 24, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Torsten Bergmann  wrote:
> 
> HI Esteban,
> 
> can you be more specific what the problem with "OSWindows" is?
>  
> I guess you refer to my project "OSWindows" which is in Catalog and in 
> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS/
> and belongs to my operating system series (OSWindows, OSLinuxUbuntu, OSUnix, 
> OSOSX, OSRaspbian, ...) which
> is about wrapping native APIs and providing easier Pharo work on the 
> different platforms.
> Each aspect of this project is covered by unit tests and it should be 
> possible to find out what the problem is.
> If you remember it was a good testbed to find issues in UFFI.
> 
> But maybe you refer to another project. Because there is also an "OSWindow" 
> (without "s") project done later by Ronie
> Salgado which is about accessing a platform window from Pharo. This one is 
> at: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OSWindow
> 
> Still I wished that Ronie would have choosen a different name as this is now 
> often very confusing
> to people to distinguish between "OSWindows" and "OSWindow". "NativeWindow" 
> or something like that
> would have been better for what it is all about...
> 
> Thanks
> Torsten
>  
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2017 um 10:58 Uhr
> Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" 
> An: "Pharo Development List" 
> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need 
> feedback !
> btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the 
> short term as is… please do not point to that :)
>  
> Esteban
>  
> On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano  wrote:
>  
> Hi guys, 
>  
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 
>  
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 
>  
> I have this issues in mind: 
>  
> No write right on Windows with the new VM
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]  -> for this I’m 
> testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, 
> plus a fix Phil sent me. 
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
>  
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>  
> cheers, 
> Esteban

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?"

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Torsten Bergmann]

HI Esteban,

can you be more specific what the problem with "OSWindows" is?

 

I guess you refer to my project "OSWindows" which is in Catalog and in http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS/
and belongs to my operating system series (OSWindows, OSLinuxUbuntu, OSUnix, OSOSX, OSRaspbian, ...) which

is about wrapping native APIs and providing easier Pharo work on the different platforms.

Each aspect of this project is covered by unit tests and it should be possible to find out what the problem is.

If you remember it was a good testbed to find issues in UFFI.


But maybe you refer to another project. Because there is also an "OSWindow" (without "s") project done later by Ronie
Salgado which is about accessing a platform window from Pharo. This one is at: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OSWindow



Still I wished that Ronie would have choosen a different name as this is now often very confusing
to people to distinguish between "OSWindows" and "OSWindow". "NativeWindow" or something like that
would have been better for what it is all about...

Thanks

Torsten

 


Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2017 um 10:58 Uhr
Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" 
An: "Pharo Development List" 
Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !


btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the short term as is… please do not point to that :)
 

Esteban
 


On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano  wrote:
 


Hi guys, 
 

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 

 

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 

 

I have this issues in mind: 

 

No write right on Windows with the new VM

Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]  -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me. 

Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

 

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

 

cheers, 

Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Thierry Goubier]

2017-01-24 11:56 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :

>
> On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:12, Thierry Goubier 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> 2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>>
>
> I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I
> have a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to
> work without segfaults from the command line).
>
>
> - yes… sadly 64bit still will not reach stable
> - and without reports, I cannot take action ;)
>

I did report two months ago, to no effect nor answer.


> - compiling is not harder than before, just instructions are not
> updated... and in any case, that’s not a problem with moving latest to
> stable :P
>

I'm trying to look through your travis setup to find out how things should
be done. Is not working too well yet.

The 32bits version looks fine.

Regards,

Thierry


>
> Esteban
>
>
> Thierry
>
>
>>
>> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>>
>> I have this issues in mind:
>>
>> No write right on Windows with the new VM
>> 
>> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]
>> 
>> -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here:
>> http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
>> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
>> 
>>
>> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Esteban
>>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:12, Thierry Goubier  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano  >:
> Hi guys, 
> 
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 
> 
> I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I have a 
> hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to work 
> without segfaults from the command line).

- yes… sadly 64bit still will not reach stable
- and without reports, I cannot take action ;)
- compiling is not harder than before, just instructions are not updated... and 
in any case, that’s not a problem with moving latest to stable :P

Esteban

> 
> Thierry
>  
> 
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 
> 
> I have this issues in mind: 
> 
> No write right on Windows with the new VM 
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] 
> 
>   -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: 
> http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289 
> , plus a fix Phil sent me. 
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows 
> 
> 
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
> 
> cheers, 
> Esteban
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Tudor Girba]

Hi,

To accommodate the need to work with OSWindows, I suggest to create a custom 
download with the current stable so that we can work on OSWindows until the 
latest gets fixed. What do you think?

Cheers,
Doru


> On Jan 24, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Esteban Lorenzano  wrote:
> 
> btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the 
> short term as is… please do not point to that :)
> 
> Esteban
> 
>> On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys, 
>> 
>> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 
>> 
>> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 
>> 
>> I have this issues in mind: 
>> 
>> No write right on Windows with the new VM
>> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]  -> for this I’m 
>> testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, 
>> plus a fix Phil sent me. 
>> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
>> 
>> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>> 
>> cheers, 
>> Esteban
> 

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com 

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Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:11, Pavel Krivanek  wrote:
> 
> itimer version?

both :)

> 
> 2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano  >:
> Hi guys, 
> 
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 
> 
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 
> 
> I have this issues in mind: 
> 
> No write right on Windows with the new VM 
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] 
> 
>   -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: 
> http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289 
> , plus a fix Phil sent me. 
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows 
> 
> 
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
> 
> cheers, 
> Esteban
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Thierry Goubier]

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :

> Hi guys,
>
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>

I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I have
a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to work
without segfaults from the command line).

Thierry


>
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>
> I have this issues in mind:
>
> No write right on Windows with the new VM
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]
> 
> -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.
> eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
> 
>
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Pavel Krivanek]

itimer version?

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :

> Hi guys,
>
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>
> I have this issues in mind:
>
> No write right on Windows with the new VM
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]
> 
> -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.
> eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
> 
>
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Denis Kudriashov]

And what the link? https://dl.bintray.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/?

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :

> Hi guys,
>
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>
> I have this issues in mind:
>
> No write right on Windows with the new VM
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format]
> 
> -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.
> eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
> 
>
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Esteban Lorenzano]

btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the short 
term as is… please do not point to that :)

Esteban

> On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys, 
> 
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 
> 
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 
> 
> I have this issues in mind: 
> 
> No write right on Windows with the new VM 
> 
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] 
> 
>   -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: 
> http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289 
> , plus a fix Phil sent me. 
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows 
> 
> 
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
> 
> cheers, 
> Esteban

[Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

[Esteban Lorenzano]

Hi guys, 

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course). 

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you 

I have this issues in mind: 

No write right on Windows with the new VM 

Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] 

  -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: 
http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289 , 
plus a fix Phil sent me. 
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows 


… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers, 
Esteban