Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Refactoring Tool
ashub...@scs.ryerson.ca wrote: should consider. My starting point is to bring Pharo up to the level of Eclipse (seehttp://help.eclipse.org/helios/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.user/concepts/concept-refactoring.htm ) but I would love to hear from experienced Smalltalkers about refactorings that are important to them. A reasonable equivalence with eclipse would be awesome (Ideally, if you can find some time to observe java developers using Intelli-J - you really say how they play the IDE like a piano). We are often too mouse-y in Smalltalk, but we don't have to be (its been great seeing some of the keyboard shortcuts introduced in Pharo). Some really useful refactorings are: - extract setUp method (this one is missing in all IDE's). Write a test with no setup, and then you want to take the initialisation of a variable at the top of a method and move it to a test setup method (possibly extracting an instance variable as well). - extract sub-component (or delegate or policy) - eg. extract out a method into another class and call it via an instance variable (eg. delegate behavior) - extract to local variable, and inline local variable are also very common eclipsy things that we seem to miss at a local method level in smalltalk as well Tim
[Pharo-project] Should refactoring cope with symbols in Pharo or should we avoid symbols?
I logged issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2817 where I noted that code using a symbol like the following example doesn't get refactored in pharo (e.g. changing the modelChanged method doesn't change this code): model announcer subscribe: ElephantModelChanged send: #modelChanged to: self I was surprised by this as in Dolphin it works - and I never thought twice about it - to me, symbol = selector. Renaming a method, or adding a parameter to a method would also affect matching symbols. So I guess my wider question is, should I simply never use symbols in Pharo? Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: Redirect compiler warnings to file
Philippe Marschall wrote: And an easy way to redirect to sdtout or stderr would help for things like Hudson. I found that in Dolphin when I was running with Cruise Control, that I installed a subclassed Transcript that logged both to the screen and to a file. I wonder if that might be an easy fix for Pharo? Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] TestSprinter
On 02/09/2010 23:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: A keyboard shortcut to run the tests directly without a mouse (ideally a way to run the single test my cursor is on, its suite of tests, and all tests like you imply above). Are you aware of Cmd-t in OB(2) ? I have to confess that is an area I don't understand in Pharo - which Browser system am I using? OB, OB2, isn't there another one as well? I don't understand why there seems to be different types of browsers - and it seems that different versions of pharo have shipped with different ones making it even more confusing? So in 1.1 am I just using OB? And should I be using OB2? (Or why wouldn't I use OB2?) I'll move this to the user list if thats more appropriate. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] TestSprinter
On 02/09/2010 23:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: A keyboard shortcut to run the tests directly without a mouse (ideally a way to run the single test my cursor is on, its suite of tests, and all tests like you imply above). Are you aware of Cmd-t in OB(2) ? I have to confess that is an area I don't understand in Pharo - which Browser system am I using? OB, OB2, isn't there another one as well? I don't understand why there seems to be different types of browsers - and it seems that different versions of pharo have shipped with different ones making it even more confusing? So in 1.1 am I just using OB? And should I be using OB2? (Or why wouldn't I use OB2?) I'll move this to the user list if thats more appropriate. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] TestSprinter
On 02/09/2010 23:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: A keyboard shortcut to run the tests directly without a mouse (ideally a way to run the single test my cursor is on, its suite of tests, and all tests like you imply above). Are you aware of Cmd-t in OB(2) ? I have to confess that is an area I don't understand in Pharo - which Browser system am I using? OB, OB2, isn't there another one as well? I don't understand why there seems to be different types of browsers - and it seems that different versions of pharo have shipped with different ones making it even more confusing? So in 1.1 am I just using OB? And should I be using OB2? (Or why wouldn't I use OB2?) I'll move this to the user list if thats more appropriate. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] TestSprinter
On 02/09/2010 23:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: A keyboard shortcut to run the tests directly without a mouse (ideally a way to run the single test my cursor is on, its suite of tests, and all tests like you imply above). Are you aware of Cmd-t in OB(2) ? I have to confess that is an area I don't understand in Pharo - which Browser system am I using? OB, OB2, isn't there another one as well? I don't understand why there seems to be different types of browsers - and it seems that different versions of pharo have shipped with different ones making it even more confusing? So in 1.1 am I just using OB? And should I be using OB2? (Or why wouldn't I use OB2?) I'll move this to the user list if thats more appropriate. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] TestSprinter
On 02/09/2010 23:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: A keyboard shortcut to run the tests directly without a mouse (ideally a way to run the single test my cursor is on, its suite of tests, and all tests like you imply above). Are you aware of Cmd-t in OB(2) ? I have to confess that is an area I don't understand in Pharo - which Browser system am I using? OB, OB2, isn't there another one as well? I don't understand why there seems to be different types of browsers - and it seems that different versions of pharo have shipped with different ones making it even more confusing? So in 1.1 am I just using OB? And should I be using OB2? (Or why wouldn't I use OB2?) I'll move this to the user list if thats more appropriate. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] TestSprinter
On 02/09/2010 23:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: A keyboard shortcut to run the tests directly without a mouse (ideally a way to run the single test my cursor is on, its suite of tests, and all tests like you imply above). Are you aware of Cmd-t in OB(2) ? I have to confess that is an area I don't understand in Pharo - which Browser system am I using? OB, OB2, isn't there another one as well? I don't understand why there seems to be different types of browsers - and it seems that different versions of pharo have shipped with different ones making it even more confusing? So in 1.1 am I just using OB? And should I be using OB2? (Or why wouldn't I use OB2?) I'll move this to the user list if thats more appropriate. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] TestSprinter
On 02/09/2010 23:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: A keyboard shortcut to run the tests directly without a mouse (ideally a way to run the single test my cursor is on, its suite of tests, and all tests like you imply above). Are you aware of Cmd-t in OB(2) ? I have to confess that is an area I don't understand in Pharo - which Browser system am I using? OB, OB2, isn't there another one as well? I don't understand why there seems to be different types of browsers - and it seems that different versions of pharo have shipped with different ones making it even more confusing? So in 1.1 am I just using OB? And should I be using OB2? (Or why wouldn't I use OB2?) I'll move this to the user list if thats more appropriate. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Wiki spam experience
Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Any wiki. If you want something more specific, does our Pharo site wiki remain unscarred because we control who can edit it, or is there something to stop me from doing bad things to it if I were so inclined? I am asking on behalf of somone who has had problems with a wider audience. You could refer to James Robertson's blog posts on how he handles comments for his blog (I recall he has lots of different strategies that he's incorporated) Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: break point
I was guilty of harvesting that for 3.7 or 3.6... (Squeak that is). Thanks for trying to get it in, it would be so nice if we could have easy ui breakpoints like other smalltalks and languages. I remain hopeful from your other comments though. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Should I be able to hang my pharo 1.1 image so easily?
Hi guys - it seems really easy to hang my seaside image and then have to force quit and restart. I thought that cmd-. was supposed to recover, but it never seems to work for me. Am I doing something wrong? (I am using a pharo 1.1 seaside3.0rc3 image with the mac 4.2.5 vm). I had the following code: modelUpdate self pusher javascript: [ :jsScript | jsScript (self generateUpdateScriptWith: jsScript) ] generateUpdateScriptWith: jsScript ^aJScript goto: anActionUrl withoutQuery I think that the operator is adding something that has already been added via aJScript goto: - and so its recursive. Anyway - when I hit this with my browser - the cpu of my Pharo image goes to 99% and I can hit Cmd-. all I want, but eventually it just dies - or I have to do a force quit. Should it be so easy to kill an image like this? Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Should I be able to hang my pharo 1.1 image so easily?
Henrik Johansen wrote: Is this code run in a separate process? UserInterruptHandlerhandleUserInterrupt specifically interrupts the UI-process, rather than f.ex. the last process consuming cycles. Whether that is desired behaviour or not, is up for discussion :) I'm not sure - as its seaside is that a UI-process (I don't think it is). By browser - I mean web browser. And then I notice my cpu spike and if I switch back to squeak, its hosed. Tim ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
