Re: [Pharo-users] What is the idiomatic way to store data in pharo?

[HilaireFernandes]

Steve Quezadas wrote
> Do I connect to some sort mysql database or is there a better "smalltalk"
> way to do it?


The Pharo way is Fuel, it will let you persist a tree of object. The package
is present in Pharo by default. Easy and fast. It is documented in one of
the Pharo book.

Another way is JSON but I don't know it. Sven can speak about it. Its
advantage over Fuel, the file format is portable.

Hilaire



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[Pharo-users] [ANN] New Headless VM (Still Alpha, but getting better)

[teso...@gmail.com]

A new version of the headless VM is available.

It can be downloaded from:

https://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64-headless/win/PharoVM-8.3.0-b612fd5f-win64-bin.zip
https://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64-headless/linux/PharoVM-8.3.0-b612fd5-linux64-bin.zip
https://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64-headless/mac/PharoVM-8.3.0-b612fd5-mac64-bin.zip

Or more easily using ZeroConf:

With the image
$ wget -O - get.pharo.org/64/90+vmHeadlessLatest | bash

Without
$ wget -O - get.pharo.org/64/vmHeadlessLatest90 | bash

This new version has a series of bugfixes and the following features:

- Update TFFI to v1.2.0: Allowing better marshaling and callbacks from
outside threads.
- Update README.md
- Add instructions on how to create a vmmaker image.
- Fixing UnixOSProcessPlugin
- Redefinition of squeakFileOffset
- Generating include files as an artifact
- Adding a configurable strategy for reading / writing the image
- Building using Musl Libc
- A cleaner implementation of the print to stdout and file.
- OSX File Dialog
- OSX icon customization
- OSX customization for apps.
- Adding build on GitHub actions

I will like to thank all the contributors specially Guille, Esteban,
Ronnie. And also, Feenk and Schmidt that they are using it, reporting
issues and contributing.

Just a friendly reminder, if you want to contribute, you are always welcome!!

https://github.com/pharo-project/opensmalltalk-vm

Cheers,
Pablo

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Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk conferences

[Mariano Martinez Peck]

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:30 PM tbrunz  wrote:

> We need to start one.  Along with a North American version of ESUG.
>
>
There are a few Camp Smalltalk held in United States. The last one held by
Instantiations at Charlotte, NC last year [1] was more like a small
conference rather than a Camp and it a lot of fun as you can see in this
video [2]. Then there was another one at Portland too [3] that was
sponsored by many companies and vendors.

I guess that's a good start.

[1]
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/camp-smalltalk-charlotte-2019-tickets-52380940804#
[2] https://youtu.be/TLIHjbTipQw
[3]
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/camp-smalltalk-portland-2019-tickets-66639706155#



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Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk conferences

[Steve Quezadas]

Yeah, I went to the portland one, it was great. I regretted missing the
Charlotte one.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:46 AM Mariano Martinez Peck 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:30 PM tbrunz  wrote:
>
>> We need to start one.  Along with a North American version of ESUG.
>>
>>
> There are a few Camp Smalltalk held in United States. The last one held by
> Instantiations at Charlotte, NC last year [1] was more like a small
> conference rather than a Camp and it a lot of fun as you can see in this
> video [2]. Then there was another one at Portland too [3] that was
> sponsored by many companies and vendors.
>
> I guess that's a good start.
>
> [1]
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/camp-smalltalk-charlotte-2019-tickets-52380940804#
> [2] https://youtu.be/TLIHjbTipQw
> [3]
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/camp-smalltalk-portland-2019-tickets-66639706155#
>
>
>
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> Email: marianop...@gmail.com
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> 
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>

Re: [Pharo-users] Is Pharo is a good frontend system for a game console?

[tbrunz]

What makes Lua a cool programming language?

It shares a lot of great characteristics with Pharo...

- Can do OOP, functional programming, imperative -- it's your choice.
- There are only 8 data types, and all are first-class values.
- Multiple return values!  Constructs such as x,y = y,x.
- All functions are unnamed full lexical closures.
- Tables! Can be associative, arrays, or both -- simultaneously.
- Dynamic typing & dynamic structures; easily polymorphic.
- Loops can be controlled via user-defined iterator functions.
- Automatic memory management, 'weak' typing, finalizers.
- Can execute as a file, interactively in a REPL, or be embedded.
- Block comments can encapsulate code that includes comments.
- Highly portable, extensible, and has an excellent C API.
- Reflective global environment which can be replaced at run-time.
- Proper tail call elimination; allows deep recursion.
- Coroutines (for co-operative multi-tasking made simple).
- Strings are 8-bit clean & support unicode.
- You can have apps in other languages call out to Lua code.
- You can have Lua apps call out to code in other languages.




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[Pharo-users] Latest PharoJS Success Story

[N. Bouraqadi]

The latest PharoJS-powered smartphone app is now live.
Development has been made using Pharo.
Then, javascript code is generated using PharoJS.
Last, the app is built to target both iOS and Android thanks to Apache Cordova.

Learn more and Download at
https://nootrix.com/projects/brain-treats-app/

Noury

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo image processing library

[Pablo Navarro]

Hi everyone!

after what we talked about the other day, I started to work with the test cases 
of Form. I don´t know if the best form for share but I load some in my Github: 
https://github.com/pablo1n7/FormTest. There are still many tests to do but it's 
a beginning.

For the other hand, I created a repository for ImageForm: 
https://github.com/pablo1n7/ImageForm (Thanks to Julien Delplanque for the 
guide).

I made tests for all the methods (do this with images is so funny :D) and load 
some examples.

Thanks
Pablo.


El 27 de ene. de 2020 08:49 -0300, Any question about pharo is welcome 
, escribió:
>
> https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Numerics/blob/master/ImageProcessing.pck.st

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest PharoJS Success Story

[Steve Quezadas]

Does Apache cordova drain a lot of battery from the phone?

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:19 AM N. Bouraqadi  wrote:

> The latest PharoJS-powered smartphone app is now live.
> Development has been made using Pharo.
> Then, javascript code is generated using PharoJS.
> Last, the app is built to target both iOS and Android thanks to Apache
> Cordova.
>
> Learn more and Download at
> https://nootrix.com/projects/brain-treats-app/
>
> Noury
>

Re: [Pharo-users] What is the idiomatic way to store data in pharo?

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

Steve,

You could try with NeoJSON[1] and serialize the image as bytecodes (or
urls to pictures in the web). Is pretty simple and gives you a plain and
portable representation of your Quote of the Day data. Grafoscopio, the
prototype I made, uses NeoJSON to store its notebooks. It's also a
pretty well written library that has Sven's quality mark and you can
learn a lot from it.

[1] https://github.com/svenvc/NeoJSON
[2] https://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/en.html

Cheers,

Offray

On 27/01/20 8:15 p. m., Steve Quezadas wrote:
> I am writing a simple "quote-of-the-day" object for pharo that stores
> both quotes and pictures. What is the "idiomatic" way of storing data
> in pharo? Do I connect to some sort mysql database or is there a
> better "smalltalk" way to do it?
>
> Forgive the naive question.
>
> - Steve

[Pharo-users] Resources Page

[Richard Kenneth Eng]

I've added a Resources page to my new blog:
https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.

It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I
visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number of
links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.

Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to obscure
materials that people may not be interested in.

As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be
useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.

Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are
useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that you
believe I should consider, please let me know.

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest PharoJS Success Story

[Tim Mackinnon]

Hey - that’s really cool. Simple, but certainly inspired me... thanks for 
pushing on this!


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Sent from my iPhone
> On 28 Jan 2020, at 18:18, N. Bouraqadi  wrote:
> 
> The latest PharoJS-powered smartphone app is now live.
> Development has been made using Pharo.
> Then, javascript code is generated using PharoJS.
> Last, the app is built to target both iOS and Android thanks to Apache 
> Cordova.
> 
> Learn more and Download at
> https://nootrix.com/projects/brain-treats-app/
> 
> Noury

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest PharoJS Success Story

[tbrunz]

Indeed.  I've already reposted it, on my firm's inside chat tool (Slack), and
just got someone new interested in Pharo, from the middle of a discussion on
the confusion JavaScript is famous for:  

"This is my first time hearing of Pharo."

followed by (after reading my links to PharoJS and your post):

"Joined.  I'd say I'm Smalltalk curious."

So, another one has joined my Pharo Slack channel, and is looking forward to
some demos and tutoring to get started...

Thanks, Nouri!





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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[tbrunz]

Very good, Richard -- this is helpful, and is a great page to refer people
to.

The image(?) under "Miscellaneous" is broken (at least in my browser; the
other links all work.)

You might consider adding a link to "A Terse Guide to Pharo", 
https://gist.github.com/jdevoo/8e8866cd6087e05790841d0f20b2e377

Another thing to consider is a section (or page) for Smalltalk demos
(postings that demonstrate Smalltalk strengths and attractive aspects); you
already have one, "Seven minutes of Pharo for Rubyists".  There are many
more...

-t



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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[Richard Sargent]

Thank you, Richard.

Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that we 
have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use.

Thanks again for all your hard work!


On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng 
 wrote:
>I've added a Resources page to my new blog:
>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
>
>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I
>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number
>of
>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
>
>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to
>obscure
>materials that people may not be interested in.
>
>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be
>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
>
>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are
>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that
>you
>believe I should consider, please let me know.

Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[horrido]

tbrunz wrote
> Very good, Richard -- this is helpful, and is a great page to refer people
> to.
> 
> The image(?) under "Miscellaneous" is broken (at least in my browser; the
> other links all work.)

Fixed. Thanks.


> You might consider adding a link to "A Terse Guide to Pharo", 
> https://gist.github.com/jdevoo/8e8866cd6087e05790841d0f20b2e377

Learn Smalltalk in Y Minutes   
has nearly identical contents and I cited it in the Smalltalk Resources
section.


> Another thing to consider is a section (or page) for Smalltalk demos
> (postings that demonstrate Smalltalk strengths and attractive aspects);
> you
> already have one, "Seven minutes of Pharo for Rubyists".  There are many
> more...

Perhaps you can provide a few more examples? Thanks.




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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[horrido]

Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.

Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.



Richard Sargent (again) wrote
> Thank you, Richard.
> 
> Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that
> we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use.
> 
> Thanks again for all your hard work!
> 
> 
> On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <

> horrido.hobbies@

> > wrote:
>>I've added a Resources page to my new blog:
>>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
>>
>>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I
>>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number
>>of
>>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
>>
>>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to
>>obscure
>>materials that people may not be interested in.
>>
>>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be
>>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
>>
>>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are
>>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that
>>you
>>believe I should consider, please let me know.





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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[Richard Sargent]

Thanks.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido  wrote:

> Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
>
> Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.
>

I believe they do.



>
>
> Richard Sargent (again) wrote
> > Thank you, Richard.
> >
> > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that
> > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal
> use.
> >
> > Thanks again for all your hard work!
> >
> >
> > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <
>
> > horrido.hobbies@
>
> > > wrote:
> >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog:
> >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
> >>
> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I
> >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number
> >>of
> >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
> >>
> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to
> >>obscure
> >>materials that people may not be interested in.
> >>
> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be
> >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
> >>
> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are
> >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that
> >>you
> >>believe I should consider, please let me know.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[Dale Henrichs]

I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an 
open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1].


Dale

[1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html

On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote:

Thanks.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido > wrote:


Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.

Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.


I believe they do.





Richard Sargent (again) wrote
> Thank you, Richard.
>
> Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point
out that
> we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only
personal use.
>
> Thanks again for all your hard work!
>
>
> On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <

> horrido.hobbies@

> > wrote:
>>I've added a Resources page to my new blog:
>>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
>>
>>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because
when I
>>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the
number
>>of
>>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
>>
>>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to
>>obscure
>>materials that people may not be interested in.
>>
>>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe
will be
>>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
>>
>>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others
feel are
>>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that
>>you
>>believe I should consider, please let me know.





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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[horrido]

I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm considered,
it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefinitely.



Dale Henrichs-3 wrote
> I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an 
> open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1].
> 
> Dale
> 
> [1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html
> 
> On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote:
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido <

> horrido.hobbies@

>  
> >  horrido.hobbies@

> >> wrote:
>>
>> Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
>>
>> Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.
>>
>>
>> I believe they do.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Sargent (again) wrote
>> > Thank you, Richard.
>> >
>> > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point
>> out that
>> > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only
>> personal use.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for all your hard work!
>> >
>> >
>> > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <
>>
>> > horrido.hobbies@
>>
>> > > wrote:
>> >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog:
>> >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
>> >>
>> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because
>> when I
>> >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the
>> number
>> >>of
>> >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
>> >>
>> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to
>> >>obscure
>> >>materials that people may not be interested in.
>> >>
>> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe
>> will be
>> >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
>> >>
>> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others
>> feel are
>> >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links
>> that
>> >>you
>> >>believe I should consider, please let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users]

--- Begin Message ---
I don't know if it's still the case but "trial version" for VAST, in the 
past, only meant that you could use the product forever but you didn't 
have the possibility to create an executable iirc.


On 2020-01-28 20:37, horrido wrote:

I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm considered,
it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefinitely.



Dale Henrichs-3 wrote

I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an
open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1].

Dale

[1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html

On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote:

Thanks.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido <

horrido.hobbies@
  
> > wrote:

 Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.

 Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.


I believe they do.





 Richard Sargent (again) wrote
 > Thank you, Richard.
 >
 > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point
 out that
 > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only
 personal use.
 >
 > Thanks again for all your hard work!
 >
 >
 > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <

 > horrido.hobbies@

 > > wrote:
 >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog:
 >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
 >>
 >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because
 when I
 >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the
 number
 >>of
 >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
 >>
 >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to
 >>obscure
 >>materials that people may not be interested in.
 >>
 >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe
 will be
 >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
 >>
 >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others
 feel are
 >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links
that
 >>you
 >>believe I should consider, please let me know.





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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[horrido]

If someone can confirm that this is still true, I'll update the Resources
Page.



Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list wrote
> I don't know if it's still the case but "trial version" for VAST, in the 
> past, only meant that you could use the product forever but you didn't 
> have the possibility to create an executable iirc.
> 
> On 2020-01-28 20:37, horrido wrote:
>> I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm
>> considered,
>> it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefinitely.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dale Henrichs-3 wrote
>>> I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an
>>> open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1].
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html
>>>
>>> On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote:
 Thanks.

 On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido <
>>> horrido.hobbies@
>>>   
>>> > >> horrido.hobbies@
>>> >> wrote:
  Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.

  Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.


 I believe they do.





  Richard Sargent (again) wrote
  > Thank you, Richard.
  >
  > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point
  out that
  > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only
  personal use.
  >
  > Thanks again for all your hard work!
  >
  >
  > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <

  > horrido.hobbies@

  > > wrote:
  >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog:
  >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
  >>
  >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because
  when I
  >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the
  number
  >>of
  >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
  >>
  >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point
 to
  >>obscure
  >>materials that people may not be interested in.
  >>
  >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe
  will be
  >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
  >>
  >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others
  feel are
  >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links
 that
  >>you
  >>believe I should consider, please let me know.





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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[Mariano Martinez Peck]

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:26 PM Richard Sargent <
richard.sarg...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido  wrote:
>
>> Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
>>
>> Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.
>>
>
> I believe they do.
>
>
Yes we do.

I would say there are 3 main entry points to using VAST.
We have an *evaluation version* that is intended for those folks or
enterprises interested in the platform and our professional services for
their commercial needs.
The second two entry points are more a measure of goodwill and community
investment.  They don't tend to impact our commercial business model
favorably or unfavorably, but we are glad to participate.
Those are *academic licenses*, available to professors and their students.
We also offer, or sometimes donate, *open-source licenses* of VAST to
students, attendees of our technical workshops or folks that give their
time to community involvement.

And this is not something new: it's there in our websites since a long time:

https://www.instantiations.com/products/academic-license-program.html
https://www.instantiations.com/company/open-source.html

Hope this clarifies.

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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[Mariano Martinez Peck]

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:35 PM Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users <
pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:

> I don't know if it's still the case but "trial version" for VAST, in the
> past, only meant that you could use the product forever but you didn't
> have the possibility to create an executable iirc.
>

No, that's not the case and AFAIK it has never been. The correct statement
is what I said before:

1) Trial versions are 45 days limit
2) Trial versions are the full version of the product, that is, there is no
kind of limit or missing functionality (like creating executables).

Best,

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Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

[Vince Refiti]

Hi Richard

For Dolphin Smalltalk there are youtube videos by Andy Bower (co-creator of 
Dolphin) showing Dolphin Successfully running in MacOS under Wineskin 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9HhHFJn5gg). It should almost certainly run 
under Wine as well.

So maybe you mighlt like to add that it can run under Wineskin at least.

Vince