[Pharo-users] Re: P12 new Tonel formatting and PR implications

2024-05-12 Thread Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-users 

Hi,

This is indeed a noisy change. That's the reason it was a change we were 
holding back during years, but at a point we needed to do it (there is a 
spec for tonel format we made together with Gemstone people and at a 
point, we needed to go to the agreed definition.


So, yes... this will cause annoying moments until all projects are 
migrated. My recommendation is to make a PR with the new format and work 
from there.


Esteban

ps: there will be still some noise, next year, since we need to clean up 
a bit around... I am sorry in advance.


On 12/05/2024 23:55, stephane ducasse wrote:
The team will be back from vacation…. last week was a three free days 
week :).


S


On 12 May 2024, at 06:21, Tim Mackinnon  wrote:

Asking this here as it didn’t get much traction on Discord - but with 
the move to P12, the category format in Tonel has changed from a 
symbol to a string e.g.  { #category : #examples } vs { #category : 
'examples' } - this causes mega noise when submitting tiny PR's - how 
is everyone else handling this? Should projects resave every project 
module to get the new format while people are out of the pool? Or is 
there a way to force the old format on specific projects until they 
can be upgraded ?


It seems like a change whose consequences need some attention ?

What are others doing?

Tim


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[Pharo-users] Re: P12 new Tonel formatting and PR implications

2024-05-12 Thread stephane ducasse 
The team will be back from vacation…. last week was a three free days week :).

S

> On 12 May 2024, at 06:21, Tim Mackinnon  wrote:
> 
> Asking this here as it didn’t get much traction on Discord - but with the 
> move to P12, the category format in Tonel has changed from a symbol to a 
> string e.g.  { #category : #examples } vs { #category : 'examples' } - this 
> causes mega noise when submitting tiny PR's - how is everyone else handling 
> this? Should projects resave every project module to get the new format while 
> people are out of the pool? Or is there a way to force the old format on 
> specific projects until they can be upgraded ?
> 
> It seems like a change whose consequences need some attention ?
> 
> What are others doing?
> 
> Tim

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06 30 93 66 73

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[Pharo-users] P12 new Tonel formatting and PR implications

2024-05-12 Thread Tim Mackinnon 
Asking this here as it didn’t get much traction on Discord - but with the move 
to P12, the category format in Tonel has changed from a symbol to a string e.g. 
 { #category : #examples } vs { #category : 'examples' } - this causes mega 
noise when submitting tiny PR's - how is everyone else handling this? Should 
projects resave every project module to get the new format while people are out 
of the pool? Or is there a way to force the old format on specific projects 
until they can be upgraded ?

It seems like a change whose consequences need some attention ?

What are others doing?

Tim

[Pharo-users] Re: Window size: look at ClyBrowserMorph>>initialExtent

2024-05-12 Thread stephane ducasse 
+ 1000

S

> On 10 May 2024, at 13:03, Tim Mackinnon  wrote:
> 
> Davide - why don't you submit a PR? I'm sure you can figure out how to add a 
> settings to the system (can't offhand remember, but there are examples - and 
> you can ask on the discord) and it would be a nice contribution to make .
> 
> Its all the little contributions that make the system better - I know I've 
> been there, and saw how the others do it and so had a go.
> 
> Tim
> 
> On Fri, 10 May 2024, at 5:25 PM, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>> It seems to me the default size of a lot of windows is too small, so after 
>> some search and thanks to this 
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55102480/how-do-i-change-the-default-height-of-the-system-browser
>>  by Marko Grdinić
>> 
>> I discovered I can change the default size of many type of windows simply 
>> changing ClyBrowserMorph>>initialExtent.
>> HTH
>> 
>> It would be good to be able to manage the size of windows in Settings
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Davide

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06 30 93 66 73

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[Pharo-users] Re: The System Browser has recently started showing 2 comments tabs - one is text and one is formatted pretty. That seems odd and is not wanted...

2024-05-12 Thread stephane ducasse 
Not really. Did you check in Pharo 12? 
We got too busy on more important issues.

S

> On 9 May 2024, at 11:43, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Any news about this issue? It's happening also to me.
> 
> Cheers
> Davide
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 07:03:43 AM GMT+1, Mark O'Donoghue 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Stephane
> 
>  
> Many thanks for following up on the issue with the extra comment tab in the 
> System Browser.
> 
>  
> As requested, I have included more information below:
> 
>  
> Versions
> 
> Over the last few days, I have seen the issue in
> 
> Build information: 
> Pharo-10.0.0+build.536.sha.2314c3f457171dcde477ff6575b578835f1fd519 (64 Bit)
> 
> I believe this is the latest stable P10 release for Windows 64.
> 
> It was created as a new image via Pharo Launcher version: 3.0.1
> 
>  
> Previously I was using
> 
> Build information: 
> Pharo-10.0.0+build.515.sha.b18847fed2389428342d35b0056824644a1ce5fe (64 Bit)
> 
> And I was getting the normal comment tab behaviour.
> 
> I still can see that when I fire up that old image.
> 
>  
> Background
> 
> I had not used Pharo since July 2022, and before resuming work I decided to 
> create a fresh new P10 image to work with.
> 
> Using the launcher, I created a new image based on the Pharo 10 (stable) 
> image. And of course it updated the Windows 64 VM as well for me.
> 
> I then reloaded my code base and started work. Pretty soon I noticed the odd 
> behaviour with the System Browser.
> 
> I then posed the question on discord for guidance.
> 
>  
> Since then, I tried to simplify the issue by creating another new image based 
> on Pharo 10 (stable).
> 
> This time I didn’t make any changes, alter settings, or loading any code or 
> libraries.
> 
> I checked the simple image and verified that the System Browser issue was 
> happening.
> 
> Because this is just the ‘vanilla’ image, unchanged by me, I a hoping it will 
> be easy to verify this behaviour at your end…
> 
>  
>  
> Cheers and regards
> 
> Mark
> 
> Perth, Western Australia
> 
>  
> From: stephane ducasse  
> Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:43 PM
> To: Any question about pharo is welcome 
> Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: The System Browser has recently started showing 2 
> comments tabs - one is text and one is formatted pretty. That seems odd and 
> is not wanted - has anyone else seen this? Pharo 10 stable image - windows 64 
> - all reloaded recently...
> 
>  
> Hi mark 
> 
>  
> Which version of Pharo are you using?
> 
> In P11 I saw some regressions.
> 
> S
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 Jan 2023, at 14:30, mark.odonoghue.2...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  

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06 30 93 66 73

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