Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[stepharo]

I will try. Now I do not know if I can script Nautilus.


Stef

On 21/5/14 10:51, Stephan Eggermont wrote:

Stef wrote:

Well I will let you for the book you will write and learn from you.
For me and my time, I will minimize the number of screenshots and if you
have some scripts
to generate these screenshots I will use the scripts.

Please do:
http://forum.world.st/Making-screenshots-programmatically-for-book-td4757560.html#a4758268

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Stephan Eggermont]

Stef wrote:
>Well I will let you for the book you will write and learn from you. 
>For me and my time, I will minimize the number of screenshots and if you 
>have some scripts 
>to generate these screenshots I will use the scripts. 

Please do:
http://forum.world.st/Making-screenshots-programmatically-for-book-td4757560.html#a4758268

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[stepharo]

And of course there is no need to have a lower number of screenshots
now you can generate them from the image.


Well I will let you for the book you will write and learn from you.
For me and my time, I will minimize the number of screenshots and if you 
have some scripts

to generate these screenshots I will use the scripts.

Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Stephan Eggermont]

And of course there is no need to have a lower number of screenshots 
now you can generate them from the image.

Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Tudor Girba]

Yes, but drawings should be vector graphics :)

Doru


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Stephan Eggermont  wrote:

> Damien Cassou wrote:
> >- PDF is a vector graphics format.
>
> Uhm, pdf is a compound format. It is an unsuitable format for figures. It
> just adds overhead.
> Screenshots should be png, photo's jpg.
>
> Stephan
>



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"Every thing has its own flow"

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Stephan Eggermont]

Damien Cassou wrote:
>- PDF is a vector graphics format. 

Uhm, pdf is a compound format. It is an unsuitable format for figures. It just 
adds overhead. 
Screenshots should be png, photo's jpg.

Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Damien Cassou]

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Ben Coman  wrote:
> Okay I see a benefit in annotations on top of the bitmap being re-editable
> later, but it makes the underlying bitmap harder to edit.  'll have see how
> this balance pans out in practice.  Maybe the bitmaps wont need much
> editing.


we need to find a solution that works for both pdf and html

-- 
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http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Damien Cassou]

On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:
>
> I noticed that many of the figures are pdf, so I am really curious why this
> was done and not left as a JPG or PNG?  It may not matter for a book but it
> seems awkward if a html version is needed at some point. Also I added a
> .gitignore since `git status` showed way too much irrelevant info to be
> useful - and the PDF-figures prevent *.pdf being a filter (but *.pier.pdf is
> an effective alternative for our purpose).

- PDF is a vector graphics format.
- JPG and PNG are not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_graphics


-- 
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Ben Coman]

stepharo wrote:

  
  
  On 10/5/14 17:51, Ben Coman wrote:
  
  


kilon alios wrote:

  Yes I am using MacTex too, it works like a charm.
I compile the pdf always before committing to Github to make sure I am
not braking enough. I also installed Texmaker which is an even better
editor for Tex files and compiling to pdf. 
  
  
  http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/
  
  
  
  Though so far emacs with pillar mode and compile.sh is more
than enough for my needs. Textmate also is good enough. 
  


Thanks Kilon. Good to know.

btw, I see that files are generated under that git-clone created. 
Being somewhat new to git, when I push back to my fork on github, then
issue a pull request to SquareBrackets, what stops the generated files
being included ?
  
  
no only the pier files are under git.
you should not add the others.
in essence you should 
  
git add .pier
git add figures/pdf if you change a pdf


I noticed that many of the figures are pdf, so I am really curious why
this was done and not left as a JPG or PNG?  It may not matter for a
book but it seems awkward if a html version is needed at some point.
Also I added a .gitignore since `git status` showed way too much
irrelevant info to be useful - and the PDF-figures prevent *.pdf being
a filter (but *.pier.pdf is an effective alternative for our purpose).
and 
git commit
git pull
git push
  

Thank for that.  Its good to have a quickstart. I'll read up on them
now to learn more. 
cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[stepharo]

On 10/5/14 17:51, Ben Coman wrote:

kilon alios wrote:
Yes I am using MacTex too, it works like a charm. I compile the pdf 
always before committing to Github to make sure I am not braking 
enough. I also installed Texmaker which is an even better editor for 
Tex files and compiling to pdf.


http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/

Though so far emacs with pillar mode and compile.sh is more than 
enough for my needs. Textmate also is good enough.


Thanks Kilon. Good to know.

btw, I see that files are generated under that git-clone created. 
Being somewhat new to git, when I push back to my fork on github, then 
issue a pull request to SquareBrackets, what stops the generated files 
being included ?


no only the pier files are under git.
you should not add the others.
in essence you should

git add .pier
git add figures/pdf if you change a pdf
and
git commit
git pull
git push




cheers -ben



On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ben Coman > wrote:


nacho wrote
> 2) Yes you have to have TEXLive installed.
> 3) If you install it on Mavericks check the paths. TexLive now
install
> into a weird location and you should add that location to your
path or
> else you'll get an error.

For me it was not a path issue.   I installed MacTex and it added
/usr/texbin to my PATH. That contains 23 links to pdftext (ls -l
| grep
pdftex).  However pdflatex was not one of them. Fixed my problem
with the
following:
# cd /usr/texbin
# sudo ln -s pdftex pdflatex

Other than that, it was quite straight forward.  So now I have
forked the
PharoLaserGameTutorial repo, and compiled it to a PDF, and can
start working
on it :)

cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Ben Coman]

kilon alios wrote:

  well in order to include a file in your git repo you
will have to add it. The fact that the file or folder exists inside
your repo folder does not mean anything to git. So you need to issue a
"git add" command. 
  
  
  Because when you git add a folder it git adds all the files and
sub folders it contain its possible to create a git ignore file that
will tell git what to ignore. Again files you add inside thoses folders
or new subfolders after the git add command will not be added so git
ignore is not needed for those.
  
  
  From what I see from working in UpdatedPharoByExample is that a
gitignore is already made for all compiled files like html, pdf and
anything else that pillar generated in the process of compilation so
you dont need to gitignore those. 
  
  
  its also possible to "git rm" this command will remove the file
or folder from your git repo but it wont delete it, the file/folder
will keep being inside your git repo local folder but it wont be part
of your git repo and wont be tracked.  
  
  
  I can't recommend GIT DOCs enough. These guys know how to write
documentation and will amazed you how simple yet powerful GIT really is.
  
  
  you can find the docs here -> http://git-scm.com/documentation
  
  
  also another thing, git add and rm commands need a git commit
and git push to be uploaded and committed to you online repo. Of course
you can do other modifications and actions and commit all of them with
one commit and push. 
  
  
  
  On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Ben Coman 
wrote:
  

kilon alios wrote:

  Yes I am using MacTex too, it works like a charm.
I
compile the pdf always before committing to Github to make sure I am
not braking enough. I also installed Texmaker which is an even better
editor for Tex files and compiling to pdf. 
  
  
  http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/
  
  
  
  Though so far emacs with pillar mode and compile.sh is more
than
enough for my needs. Textmate also is good enough. 
  



Thanks Kilon. Good to know.

btw, I see that files are generated under that git-clone created. 
Being somewhat new to git, when I push back to my fork on github, then
issue a pull request to SquareBrackets, what stops the generated files
being included ?

cheers -ben


    
  


  
  On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ben
Coman 
wrote:
  nacho
wrote
> 2) Yes you have to have TEXLive installed.
> 3) If you install it on Mavericks check the paths. TexLive now
install
> into a weird location and you should add that location to your
path or
> else you'll get an error.


For me it was not a path issue.   I installed MacTex and it added
/usr/texbin to my PATH. That contains 23 links to pdftext (ls -l | grep
pdftex).  However pdflatex was not one of them. Fixed my problem with
the
following:
# cd /usr/texbin
# sudo ln -s pdftex pdflatex

Other than that, it was quite straight forward.  So now I have forked
the
PharoLaserGameTutorial repo, and compiled it to a PDF, and can start
working
on it :)

cheers -ben
  
  
  




  
  
  
  

thanks kilon.  That is exactly what I needed to know.
cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[kilon alios]

well in order to include a file in your git repo you will have to add it.
The fact that the file or folder exists inside your repo folder does not
mean anything to git. So you need to issue a "git add" command.

Because when you git add a folder it git adds all the files and sub folders
it contain its possible to create a git ignore file that will tell git what
to ignore. Again files you add inside thoses folders or new subfolders
after the git add command will not be added so git ignore is not needed for
those.

>From what I see from working in UpdatedPharoByExample is that a gitignore
is already made for all compiled files like html, pdf and anything else
that pillar generated in the process of compilation so you dont need to
gitignore those.

its also possible to "git rm" this command will remove the file or folder
from your git repo but it wont delete it, the file/folder will keep being
inside your git repo local folder but it wont be part of your git repo and
wont be tracked.

I can't recommend GIT DOCs enough. These guys know how to write
documentation and will amazed you how simple yet powerful GIT really is.

you can find the docs here -> http://git-scm.com/documentation

also another thing, git add and rm commands need a git commit and git push
to be uploaded and committed to you online repo. Of course you can do other
modifications and actions and commit all of them with one commit and push.


On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:

>  kilon alios wrote:
>
> Yes I am using MacTex too, it works like a charm. I compile the pdf always
> before committing to Github to make sure I am not braking enough. I also
> installed Texmaker which is an even better editor for Tex files and
> compiling to pdf.
>
>  http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/
>
>  Though so far emacs with pillar mode and compile.sh is more than enough
> for my needs. Textmate also is good enough.
>
>
> Thanks Kilon. Good to know.
>
> btw, I see that files are generated under that git-clone created.  Being
> somewhat new to git, when I push back to my fork on github, then issue a
> pull request to SquareBrackets, what stops the generated files being
> included ?
>
> cheers -ben
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:
>
>> nacho wrote
>> > 2) Yes you have to have TEXLive installed.
>> > 3) If you install it on Mavericks check the paths. TexLive now install
>> > into a weird location and you should add that location to your path or
>> > else you'll get an error.
>>
>>  For me it was not a path issue.   I installed MacTex and it added
>> /usr/texbin to my PATH. That contains 23 links to pdftext (ls -l | grep
>> pdftex).  However pdflatex was not one of them. Fixed my problem with the
>> following:
>> # cd /usr/texbin
>> # sudo ln -s pdftex pdflatex
>>
>> Other than that, it was quite straight forward.  So now I have forked the
>> PharoLaserGameTutorial repo, and compiled it to a PDF, and can start
>> working
>> on it :)
>>
>> cheers -ben
>>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Ben Coman]

kilon alios wrote:

  Yes I am using MacTex too, it works like a charm. I
compile the pdf always before committing to Github to make sure I am
not braking enough. I also installed Texmaker which is an even better
editor for Tex files and compiling to pdf. 
  
  
  http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/
  
  
  
  Though so far emacs with pillar mode and compile.sh is more than
enough for my needs. Textmate also is good enough. 
  


Thanks Kilon. Good to know.

btw, I see that files are generated under that git-clone created. 
Being somewhat new to git, when I push back to my fork on github, then
issue a pull request to SquareBrackets, what stops the generated files
being included ?

cheers -ben

    
  


  
  On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ben Coman 
wrote:
  nacho
wrote
> 2) Yes you have to have TEXLive installed.
> 3) If you install it on Mavericks check the paths. TexLive now
install
> into a weird location and you should add that location to your
path or
> else you'll get an error.


For me it was not a path issue.   I installed MacTex and it added
/usr/texbin to my PATH. That contains 23 links to pdftext (ls -l | grep
pdftex).  However pdflatex was not one of them. Fixed my problem with
the
following:
# cd /usr/texbin
# sudo ln -s pdftex pdflatex

Other than that, it was quite straight forward.  So now I have forked
the
PharoLaserGameTutorial repo, and compiled it to a PDF, and can start
working
on it :)

cheers -ben
  
  
  

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[kilon alios]

Yes I am using MacTex too, it works like a charm. I compile the pdf always
before committing to Github to make sure I am not braking enough. I also
installed Texmaker which is an even better editor for Tex files and
compiling to pdf.

http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/

Though so far emacs with pillar mode and compile.sh is more than enough for
my needs. Textmate also is good enough.


On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:

> nacho wrote
> > 2) Yes you have to have TEXLive installed.
> > 3) If you install it on Mavericks check the paths. TexLive now install
> > into a weird location and you should add that location to your path or
> > else you'll get an error.
>
> For me it was not a path issue.   I installed MacTex and it added
> /usr/texbin to my PATH. That contains 23 links to pdftext (ls -l | grep
> pdftex).  However pdflatex was not one of them. Fixed my problem with the
> following:
> # cd /usr/texbin
> # sudo ln -s pdftex pdflatex
>
> Other than that, it was quite straight forward.  So now I have forked the
> PharoLaserGameTutorial repo, and compiled it to a PDF, and can start
> working
> on it :)
>
> cheers -ben
>
>
>
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>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Ben Coman]

nacho wrote
> 2) Yes you have to have TEXLive installed.
> 3) If you install it on Mavericks check the paths. TexLive now install
> into a weird location and you should add that location to your path or
> else you'll get an error.

For me it was not a path issue.   I installed MacTex and it added
/usr/texbin to my PATH. That contains 23 links to pdftext (ls -l | grep
pdftex).  However pdflatex was not one of them. Fixed my problem with the
following:
# cd /usr/texbin
# sudo ln -s pdftex pdflatex

Other than that, it was quite straight forward.  So now I have forked the
PharoLaserGameTutorial repo, and compiled it to a PDF, and can start working
on it :)

cheers -ben



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Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[pharo4s...@free.fr]

Is TEXLive required for the PDF compilation?
Maybe the setup I reported [1] for PBE1 on Windows would be similar?
However I now have access to a Mavericks machine.  Would that be a 
better option?  What tools would you use to edit with ? (this is my 
first Mac - something to google for would be useful)


I used either texmate or emacs (damien did a mode for pillar).
But do not bother too much if you edit and break ping me and I will fix 
problems.


Stef


I see that [2] runs  ./download.sh
so perhaps that is all that is required in this case for the LaserGame 
book?


[1] http://blog.openinworld.com/2012/05/contributing-to-pbe/ regarding
[2] 
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLaserGame/lastSuccessfulBuild/console


cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Damien Cassou]

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:

> Is TEXLive required for the PDF compilation?


yes. But you can use Pillar locally without PDF creation and let the
integration server do the job (
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLaserGame/). Just comment
the line starting with 'mypdflatex' in produce_pdf of the compile.sh file.


-- 
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing
enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Ignacio Sniechowski]

Ben,
1) Yes, it is possible. You could check the compile.sh script that is in
the PharoForTheEnterprise repository in GitHub. It does exactly that.
2) Yes you have to have TEXLive installed.
3) If you install it on Mavericks check the paths. TexLive now install into
a weird location and you should add that location to your path or else
you'll get an error.
4) To edit pillar text I use TextMate with Uko's bundle.
best
Nacho


*Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA*






On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:

>
> I've haven't been able to find any instructions on how to compile Pillar
> files locally. Any pointers?
> Is TEXLive required for the PDF compilation?
> Maybe the setup I reported [1] for PBE1 on Windows would be similar?
> However I now have access to a Mavericks machine.  Would that be a better
> option?  What tools would you use to edit with ? (this is my first Mac -
> something to google for would be useful)
>
> I see that [2] runs  ./download.sh
> so perhaps that is all that is required in this case for the LaserGame
> book?
>
> [1] http://blog.openinworld.com/2012/05/contributing-to-pbe/ regarding
> [2] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLaserGame/
> lastSuccessfulBuild/console
>
> cheers -ben
>
>
>

[Pharo-users] compiling Pillar files locally (for LaserGame book)

[Ben Coman]

I've haven't been able to find any instructions on how to compile Pillar 
files locally. Any pointers? 


Is TEXLive required for the PDF compilation?
Maybe the setup I reported [1] for PBE1 on Windows would be similar?
However I now have access to a Mavericks machine.  Would that be a 
better option?  What tools would you use to edit with ? (this is my 
first Mac - something to google for would be useful)


I see that [2] runs  ./download.sh
so perhaps that is all that is required in this case for the LaserGame book?

[1] http://blog.openinworld.com/2012/05/contributing-to-pbe/ regarding
[2] 
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLaserGame/lastSuccessfulBuild/console


cheers -ben