Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Hi Offray, interesting use case. I can see that Etherpad uses colors to emphasize author of each line (character). Is it important? Why? (I understand Spanish.) Cheers, Juraj 8. 8. 2015 v 19:44, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net: Hi Juraj, At the last data week and in the workshops, we have an interesting user case: sharing code snippets between assistants to the workshop. For that we setup an Etherpad at the beginning of the workshop where we share notes and code snippets by their url on http://ws.stfx.eu http://ws.stfx.eu/. This has worked pretty fine and the only thing I can think for an improvement would be having something like ethepads inside the Pharo Image, allowing participants to write collaboratively docs and scripts inside Pharo. You can see and examples of such case of use here: http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home (mostly in Spanish but the use of Etherpads and published playgrounds is understandable). Cheers, Offray On 07/08/15 08:23, Juraj Kubelka wrote: Hi! It is great that people are interested in sharing information between images. GTChatter was the first try and we will come with a new solution. What is the most urgent information you want to share between images? Source code? I am curious about your use cases: Do you want to share information between images on the same computer? Between your computers? Between co-workers? Cheers, Juraj On Aug 7, 2015, at 03:58, Peter Uhnák mailto:i.uh...@gmail.comi.uh...@gmail.com mailto:i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s ), but it was just prototype, I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ http://ws.stfx.eu/ (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRUhttp://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). Peter On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink mailto:shei...@yahoo.deshei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Sven, thank you! I will check it out. I'll have such situation more and more often. I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Hi Juraj, Coloring is a default on etherpad. Because we're sharing a physical space, color let us to find who wrote what to see who is giving advice or is needing help. So yes, is important because it let us learn better. Chévere que entiendas español :-) Cheers, Offray On 08/08/15 20:33, Juraj Kubelka wrote: Hi Offray, interesting use case. I can see that Etherpad uses colors to emphasize author of each line (character). Is it important? Why? (I understand Spanish.) Cheers, Juraj 8. 8. 2015 v 19:44, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net mailto:off...@riseup.net: Hi Juraj, At the last data week and in the workshops, we have an interesting user case: sharing code snippets between assistants to the workshop. For that we setup an Etherpad at the beginning of the workshop where we share notes and code snippets by their url on http://ws.stfx.eu. This has worked pretty fine and the only thing I can think for an improvement would be having something like ethepads inside the Pharo Image, allowing participants to write collaboratively docs and scripts inside Pharo. You can see and examples of such case of use here: http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home (mostly in Spanish but the use of Etherpads and published playgrounds is understandable). Cheers, Offray On 07/08/15 08:23, Juraj Kubelka wrote: Hi! It is great that people are interested in sharing information between images. GTChatter was the first try and we will come with a new solution. What is the most urgent information you want to share between images? Source code? I am curious about your use cases: Do you want to share information between images on the same computer? Between your computers? Between co-workers? Cheers, Juraj On Aug 7, 2015, at 03:58, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s ), but it was just prototype, I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). Peter On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Sven, thank you! I will check it out. I'll have such situation more and more often. I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Hi Offray, good point! I will keep in mind. Cheers, Juraj On Aug 10, 2015, at 19:10, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net wrote: Hi Juraj, Coloring is a default on etherpad. Because we're sharing a physical space, color let us to find who wrote what to see who is giving advice or is needing help. So yes, is important because it let us learn better. Chévere que entiendas español :-) Cheers, Offray On 08/08/15 20:33, Juraj Kubelka wrote: Hi Offray, interesting use case. I can see that Etherpad uses colors to emphasize author of each line (character). Is it important? Why? (I understand Spanish.) Cheers, Juraj 8. 8. 2015 v 19:44, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net mailto:off...@riseup.net: Hi Juraj, At the last data week and in the workshops, we have an interesting user case: sharing code snippets between assistants to the workshop. For that we setup an Etherpad at the beginning of the workshop where we share notes and code snippets by their url on http://ws.stfx.eu http://ws.stfx.eu/. This has worked pretty fine and the only thing I can think for an improvement would be having something like ethepads inside the Pharo Image, allowing participants to write collaboratively docs and scripts inside Pharo. You can see and examples of such case of use here: http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home (mostly in Spanish but the use of Etherpads and published playgrounds is understandable). Cheers, Offray On 07/08/15 08:23, Juraj Kubelka wrote: Hi! It is great that people are interested in sharing information between images. GTChatter was the first try and we will come with a new solution. What is the most urgent information you want to share between images? Source code? I am curious about your use cases: Do you want to share information between images on the same computer? Between your computers? Between co-workers? Cheers, Juraj On Aug 7, 2015, at 03:58, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com mailto:i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s ), but it was just prototype, I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ http://ws.stfx.eu/ (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRUhttp://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). Peter On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Sven, thank you! I will check it out. I'll have such situation more and more often. I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Hi Juraj, At the last data week and in the workshops, we have an interesting user case: sharing code snippets between assistants to the workshop. For that we setup an Etherpad at the beginning of the workshop where we share notes and code snippets by their url on http://ws.stfx.eu. This has worked pretty fine and the only thing I can think for an improvement would be having something like ethepads inside the Pharo Image, allowing participants to write collaboratively docs and scripts inside Pharo. You can see and examples of such case of use here: http://mutabit.com/deltas/repos.fossil/dataweek/home (mostly in Spanish but the use of Etherpads and published playgrounds is understandable). Cheers, Offray On 07/08/15 08:23, Juraj Kubelka wrote: Hi! It is great that people are interested in sharing information between images. GTChatter was the first try and we will come with a new solution. What is the most urgent information you want to share between images? Source code? I am curious about your use cases: Do you want to share information between images on the same computer? Between your computers? Between co-workers? Cheers, Juraj On Aug 7, 2015, at 03:58, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com mailto:i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s ), but it was just prototype, I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). Peter On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Sven, thank you! I will check it out. I'll have such situation more and more often. I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Hi! It is great that people are interested in sharing information between images. GTChatter was the first try and we will come with a new solution. What is the most urgent information you want to share between images? Source code? I am curious about your use cases: Do you want to share information between images on the same computer? Between your computers? Between co-workers? Cheers, Juraj On Aug 7, 2015, at 03:58, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s ), but it was just prototype, I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ http://ws.stfx.eu/ (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). Peter On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Sven, thank you! I will check it out. I'll have such situation more and more often. I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Although this would work better for scripts than classes. (Unless you could push fileouts through GTChatter). Peter On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s ), but it was just prototype, I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). Peter On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Sven, thank you! I will check it out. I'll have such situation more and more often. I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
On PharoDays, there was a demo of GTChatter ( https://youtu.be/Nmcou_5um2s?t=22m18s ), but it was just prototype, I don't think it's currently being developed. But maybe it could serve as a bases for code sharing between images/users. If anything you could simply push your code to http://ws.stfx.eu/ (Playground can do that with a button), and then paste the link through GTSpotter to the other user. If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). Peter On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Sven, thank you! I will check it out. I'll have such situation more and more often. I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Mariano, that is what I do, too. I mean a case where I sit next to somebody and he uses his own computer and we dabble around. After a while one sometimes want to just provide the other with some snippets or classes just implemented. Email and USB stick are not always an option... OK, I see now. So for that what I do is that I have a MarianoSandbox repository in Shub which is public write access and I simply commit there... But I don't remember if even if the project is public write, if someone would still need a Shub user, which in your case would not be fun. Cheers, Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:17 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Something I do since years is to have my own cross-image-shared package cache or explicit directory-based monticello repository (added to your projects) where I have everything. Then, you can simply commit to your local directory based monticello report and load it in the other image..quite simple. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi again, I find my self more and more often showing others Pharo and very often it might be great to just push code changes from one image directly to another. Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? I already thought about webannouncements as a solution to broadcast/push code within the network. Or a shared remote playground that keeps a websocket connection between images and would provide an easy way to copypaste snippets... @Stephan: How did you solve your latency issues with your remote introductions? Couldn't one just extend gui announcements by web announcements to remote control other images? Sebastian -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Peter Uhnák wrote If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the option to open playground on it (eg. try pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ). [OT]Wow![/OT] - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/direct-image-code-exchange-tp4841384p4841465.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
On 8/6/15, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Something I do since years is to have my own cross-image-shared package cache or explicit directory-based monticello repository (added to your projects) where I have everything. Then, you can simply commit to your local directory based monticello report and load it in the other image..quite simple. Simple and efficient indeed! +1 On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi again, I find my self more and more often showing others Pharo and very often it might be great to just push code changes from one image directly to another. Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? I already thought about webannouncements as a solution to broadcast/push code within the network. Or a shared remote playground that keeps a websocket connection between images and would provide an easy way to copypaste snippets... @Stephan: How did you solve your latency issues with your remote introductions? Couldn't one just extend gui announcements by web announcements to remote control other images? Sebastian -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Something I do since years is to have my own cross-image-shared package cache or explicit directory-based monticello repository (added to your projects) where I have everything. Then, you can simply commit to your local directory based monticello report and load it in the other image..quite simple. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi again, I find my self more and more often showing others Pharo and very often it might be great to just push code changes from one image directly to another. Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? I already thought about webannouncements as a solution to broadcast/push code within the network. Or a shared remote playground that keeps a websocket connection between images and would provide an easy way to copypaste snippets... @Stephan: How did you solve your latency issues with your remote introductions? Couldn't one just extend gui announcements by web announcements to remote control other images? Sebastian -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
[Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Hi again, I find my self more and more often showing others Pharo and very often it might be great to just push code changes from one image directly to another. Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? I already thought about webannouncements as a solution to broadcast/push code within the network. Or a shared remote playground that keeps a websocket connection between images and would provide an easy way to copypaste snippets... @Stephan: How did you solve your latency issues with your remote introductions? Couldn't one just extend gui announcements by web announcements to remote control other images? Sebastian
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Hi Mariano, that is what I do, too. I mean a case where I sit next to somebody and he uses his own computer and we dabble around. After a while one sometimes want to just provide the other with some snippets or classes just implemented. Email and USB stick are not always an option... Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:17 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Something I do since years is to have my own cross-image-shared package cache or explicit directory-based monticello repository (added to your projects) where I have everything. Then, you can simply commit to your local directory based monticello report and load it in the other image..quite simple. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de mailto:shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi again, I find my self more and more often showing others Pharo and very often it might be great to just push code changes from one image directly to another. Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? I already thought about webannouncements as a solution to broadcast/push code within the network. Or a shared remote playground that keeps a websocket connection between images and would provide an easy way to copypaste snippets... @Stephan: How did you solve your latency issues with your remote introductions? Couldn't one just extend gui announcements by web announcements to remote control other images? Sebastian -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Re: [Pharo-users] direct image code exchange
Hi Sven, thank you! I will check it out. I'll have such situation more and more often. I'll let you know when I might have extended the code by some addons Sebastian On 2015-08-06 3:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Aug 2015, at 00:13, Sebastian Heidbrink shei...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there a in-image monticello server available that would mimic a repository server? Yes, it is called ZnMonticelloServerDelegate - it is meant as an example, but it works.
