Re: [Pharo-users] DynaCASE
> > With Alex and a student visiting my lab at the moment, we are working > on BPMN visualisation. > We would certainly be interested in that. Unfortunately it was completely out of me scope to implement BPMN this semester time-wise, that's why we settled for BORM and partially DEMO. Peter
Re: [Pharo-users] DynaCASE
I'm sorry for not replying for such long time. Thank you for sharing. I recommend loading via my baseline from github, which automatically loads all prerequisites including DynaCASE itself: Gofer new url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo40/main'; configurationOf: 'GitFileTree'; loadDevelopment. Metacello new baseline: 'DynaCASEPetriNets'; repository: 'github://bliznjan/dynacase-petrinets/repository'; load You can take a look. As I mentioned before, it is far from complete, but I keep improving it every day so it should be usable in few weeks (petri nets model and visualisation, i.e. without simulation, much sooner). Jan SergeStinckwich wrote > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jan B. < > bliznjan@.cvut > > wrote: >> Hi >> >> Thank you for CC-ing me, Peter, since I don't watch Pharo developers >> mailing >> list. > > Hi Jan, > >> About petri nets... My main goal is to implement simulation for DynaCASE >> (i.e. "make it move") and Petri nets are for me more like a tool for >> trying >> simulation prototypes than goal itself. I'm currently stuck with them on >> developing simulation itself and on Roassal (visualisation engine from >> Moose >> which we use) problems with composite shapes. >> >> Anyway, Serge, I will improve them in time and I would be glad to hear >> what >> do you expect from it - what should it support, do etc. >> Can't promise anything, but it might help us both. > > At the moment, I'm quite interested to be able to do Process Mining: > http://www.processmining.org/ > The idea is to be able to extract from logs a process. > I have already done some experiments some time ago. I'm using a basic > alpha algorithm and build a Petri net that represent the process: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdf80t32v-0 > > The repo is here: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~SergeStinckwich/Moose-XES > Maybe I can use your Petri Nets viz instead of mine. > How I can load your P/N viz code in my image ? > > Regards > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/DynaCASE-tp4816281p4817416.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] DynaCASE
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi Serge, Hi Peter, > I didn't want to hijack the original thread (more than I've already done), > so I made a new one instead. > >> Looks really impressive Peter ! >> I put some pictures on my twitter account: >> https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich/status/582799867409526784 > > Thanks! I'll guess I will have to start using twitter now. :) Yes, I think so ;-) >> Apparently there is an icon bug when you don't use the Eclipse set of >> icons. > > Yeah, that's my mistake. Thanks for the bugreport. > >> >> I'm interested by Petri Nets in order to do Process Mining. > > Petri Nets are being developed by my colleague Jan Blizničenko ( > https://github.com/bliznjan?tab=repositories ) so he may have some more > info. I've CCed him. > >> >> What kind of process models are you expected to implement ? >> Do you plan to draw activity diagrams ? > > Right now I'm working on BORM (Business and Object Relation Modeling) > http://ccm.fit.cvut.cz/methodologies/borm/ (some of the materials are in > Czech, but you can see diagrams in the first link in our current > Eclipse-based tool); the following will be DEMO > http://ccm.fit.cvut.cz/methodologies/demo/ With Alex and a student visiting my lab at the moment, we are working on BPMN visualisation. > I can imagine that it wouldn't be that complicated to extend current FSM to > have activity diagrams (it's just two extra elements), so if you are > interested in that I can look into it. Yes, I'm quite interested to do that in order to specify in a visual way to specify agent behaviour in a multi-agent system. Have a look to the CORMAS announce I made on the mailing-list > Also I still have to migrate documentation to github so other people can > extend it if they want. Yes ;-) -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
Re: [Pharo-users] DynaCASE
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jan B. wrote: > Hi > > Thank you for CC-ing me, Peter, since I don't watch Pharo developers mailing > list. Hi Jan, > About petri nets... My main goal is to implement simulation for DynaCASE > (i.e. "make it move") and Petri nets are for me more like a tool for trying > simulation prototypes than goal itself. I'm currently stuck with them on > developing simulation itself and on Roassal (visualisation engine from Moose > which we use) problems with composite shapes. > > Anyway, Serge, I will improve them in time and I would be glad to hear what > do you expect from it - what should it support, do etc. > Can't promise anything, but it might help us both. At the moment, I'm quite interested to be able to do Process Mining: http://www.processmining.org/ The idea is to be able to extract from logs a process. I have already done some experiments some time ago. I'm using a basic alpha algorithm and build a Petri net that represent the process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdf80t32v-0 The repo is here: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~SergeStinckwich/Moose-XES Maybe I can use your Petri Nets viz instead of mine. How I can load your P/N viz code in my image ? Regards -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
Re: [Pharo-users] DynaCASE
Hi Thank you for CC-ing me, Peter, since I don't watch Pharo developers mailing list. About petri nets... My main goal is to implement simulation for DynaCASE (i.e. "make it move") and Petri nets are for me more like a tool for trying simulation prototypes than goal itself. I'm currently stuck with them on developing simulation itself and on Roassal (visualisation engine from Moose which we use) problems with composite shapes. Anyway, Serge, I will improve them in time and I would be glad to hear what do you expect from it - what should it support, do etc. Can't promise anything, but it might help us both. Jan Peter Uhnák wrote > Hi Serge, > > I didn't want to hijack the original thread (more than I've already done), > so I made a new one instead. > > Looks really impressive Peter ! >> I put some pictures on my twitter account: >> https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich/status/582799867409526784 > > Thanks! I'll guess I will have to start using twitter now. :) > > Apparently there is an icon bug when you don't use the Eclipse set of > icons. >> > Yeah, that's my mistake. Thanks for the bugreport. > > >> I'm interested by Petri Nets in order to do Process Mining. >> > Petri Nets are being developed by my colleague Jan Blizničenko ( > https://github.com/bliznjan?tab=repositories ) so he may have some more > info. I've CCed him. > > >> What kind of process models are you expected to implement ? >> Do you plan to draw activity diagrams ? >> > Right now I'm working on BORM (Business and Object Relation Modeling) > http://ccm.fit.cvut.cz/methodologies/borm/ (some of the materials are in > Czech, but you can see diagrams in the first link in our current > Eclipse-based tool); the following will be DEMO > http://ccm.fit.cvut.cz/methodologies/demo/ > > I can imagine that it wouldn't be that complicated to extend current FSM > to > have activity diagrams (it's just two extra elements), so if you are > interested in that I can look into it. > Also I still have to migrate documentation to github so other people can > extend it if they want. > > Thanks! > Peter -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/DynaCASE-tp4816281p4816360.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
