Re: [Phono-L] Model L?

2009-08-14 Thread Rich

They are just expensive.

Steven Medved wrote:

Hi,
 
  A friend is looking for a nice Model L reproducer (sapphire  stylus) for 
an Opera - what price range can he expect to pay these  days? I don't see 
any on eb*y at the moment.
 
Allen


$500 to $750 is the typical range.  These do not appear on eBay very often.  
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Re: [Phono-L] Model L?

2009-08-14 Thread Steven Medved

> Hi,
>  
>   A friend is looking for a nice Model L reproducer (sapphire  stylus) for 
> an Opera - what price range can he expect to pay these  days? I don't see 
> any on eb*y at the moment.
>  
> Allen

$500 to $750 is the typical range.  These do not appear on eBay very often.  
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[Phono-L] Model L?

2009-08-14 Thread AllenAmet
Hi,
 
  A friend is looking for a nice Model L reproducer (sapphire  stylus) for 
an Opera - what price range can he expect to pay these  days? I don't see 
any on eb*y at the moment.
 
Allen
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel Melvin
Here is a link on tinfoi.com to a good lesson on packing and shipping
cylinders. It's kind of fun to watch and is good information.

http://tinfoil.com/outtakes.htm

Dan
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Thomas Edison  wrote:

>
> I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now try to
> by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides, and wrap my
> cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then bubble wrap around
> that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3 rows of blanks.  There is
> nothing as disheartning as sending out a dozen cylinders which all an all is
> 12 hours of work, and a month of setting.  I usually double the insuance on
> them so the customer can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I
> much rather hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes
> that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so I do not
> make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I sell I make  when
> I can.I estimated that in the New York adventure, I had almost
> $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from me.   Never been quite able to
> recover from that, I work for DHS making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do
> phonographs.
>
> _
> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
>
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Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel Melvin
Actually, this is a better link to the video...

http://tinfoil.com/collectr.htm#packing

Dan

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Daniel Melvin wrote:

> Here is a link on tinfoi.com to a good lesson on packing and shipping
> cylinders. It's kind of fun to watch and is good information.
>
> http://tinfoil.com/outtakes.htm
>
> Dan
>   On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Thomas Edison <
> edisonphonowo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now try to
>> by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides, and wrap my
>> cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then bubble wrap around
>> that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3 rows of blanks.  There is
>> nothing as disheartning as sending out a dozen cylinders which all an all is
>> 12 hours of work, and a month of setting.  I usually double the insuance on
>> them so the customer can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I
>> much rather hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes
>> that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so I do not
>> make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I sell I make  when
>> I can.I estimated that in the New York adventure, I had almost
>> $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from me.   Never been quite able to
>> recover from that, I work for DHS making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do
>> phonographs.
>>
>> _
>> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
>>
>> http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
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Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150

2009-08-14 Thread Mike Stitt
Stuff the inside of the record too. Light pack it with paper.
Mike OC

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Bill Boruff  wrote:

> I have had success shipping cylinders in PVC pipe. I first put paper towels
> or some other support paper in the core of the record before putting the
> record in its box.  I then wrap the cylinder boxes in bubble wrap and  then
> put them in 5" diameter PVC pipe (thin wall to minimize weight) which is cut
> to 6" length. Then I package the PVC pieces (one or more cylinders)  in a
> box with suitable peanuts for shipping. To date I have not had one get
> broken.
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Edison wrote:
>
>
>> I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now try to
>> by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides, and wrap my
>> cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then bubble wrap around
>> that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3 rows of blanks.  There is
>> nothing as disheartning as sending out a dozen cylinders which all an all is
>> 12 hours of work, and a month of setting.  I usually double the insuance on
>> them so the customer can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I
>> much rather hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes
>> that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so I do not
>> make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I sell I make  when
>> I can.I estimated that in the New York adventure, I had almost
>> $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from me.   Never been quite able to
>> recover from that, I work for DHS making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do
>> phonographs.
>>
>> _
>> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
>> http://www.bing.com/cashback
>> ?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
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[Phono-L] Help me find a diaphragm?

2009-08-14 Thread john robles
Hmm, sounds weird..
Anyhow, I am looking for 1 or better yet 2 original Edison Diamond C reproducer 
diaphragms with intact cotton link for the stylus bar.  I have a Diamond C with 
a repro diaphragm that sounds like crap and I love the warm sound of an 
original.
All assistance is appreciated!
Thanks
John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Boruff
I have had success shipping cylinders in PVC pipe. I first put paper  
towels or some other support paper in the core of the record before  
putting the record in its box.  I then wrap the cylinder boxes in  
bubble wrap and  then put them in 5" diameter PVC pipe (thin wall to  
minimize weight) which is cut to 6" length. Then I package the PVC  
pieces (one or more cylinders)  in a box with suitable peanuts for  
shipping. To date I have not had one get broken.


On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Edison wrote:



I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now  
try to by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides,  
and wrap my cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then  
bubble wrap around that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3  
rows of blanks.  There is nothing as disheartning as sending out a  
dozen cylinders which all an all is 12 hours of work, and a month  
of setting.  I usually double the insuance on them so the customer  
can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I much rather  
hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes  
that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so  
I do not make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I  
sell I make  when I can.I estimated that in the New York  
adventure, I had almost $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from  
me.   Never been quite able to recover from that, I work for DHS  
making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do phonographs.


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Re: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface

2009-08-14 Thread Abe Feder
Chris,glad things worked out for you -Abe

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Chris Kocsis  wrote:

> Maybe bugs, they're so neat and round, like carpenter bee holes.  But not
> much deeper than wide.
>
> The seller was very nice and refunded the purchase instantly.
>
> Abe Feder wrote:
>
>> Those holes or divits look like needle drops-or bugs did it
>> Abe
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Steven Medved 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I believe I used candle wax to fill in holes on one of my cylinders, but
>>> I
>>> would have used a broken record.  I think it was a wax amberol and I was
>>> able to play the record.
>>>
>>> Are they chipped or melted?
>>>
>>> I have no idea how the holes got there, but the seller should give you a
>>> full refund and pay return postage.  E+ does not have holes.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400
 From: chris...@cox.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface

 I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody
 Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked.  It was advertised as in
 excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked
 like it was.  But as I turned it to examine it closely, I found a
 strange, almost patterned number of deep circular pits among the
 grooves.  I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus catches in these
 holes and gets ripped out.  I'm attaching a picture.

 I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these holes
 could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never
 seen anything like them before).

 Many thanks,

 Chris
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Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150

2009-08-14 Thread Thomas Edison

I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now try to by 
the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides, and wrap my cylinder 
boxes in that and tape them up real good, then bubble wrap around that. The 
inside has bubble wrap between the 3 rows of blanks.  There is nothing as 
disheartning as sending out a dozen cylinders which all an all is 12 hours of 
work, and a month of setting.  I usually double the insuance on them so the 
customer can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I much rather hand 
deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes that have 12 tube 
pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so I do not make as many 
anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I sell I make  when I can.I 
estimated that in the New York adventure, I had almost $300,000.00 worth of 
material stolen from me.   Never been quite able to recover from that, I work 
for DHS making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do phonographs.

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Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show

2009-08-14 Thread Stan Stanford
Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were interesting 
machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs 
and many related small items.The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott 
and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over the 
past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the 
projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the 
pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all this we 
heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David 
Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!


Stan Stanford, President
Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society



- Original Message - 
From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" 

To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show



For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show 
has
been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus 
reproducer)

for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale.
One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get 
down

here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the
show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 
lots,

and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a
range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & 
Hardy's

immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult
time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching 
him

crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment.
The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard 
a

concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, what
volume!
Mark your calendars for next August!

-Scott & Denise Corbett

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On

Behalf Of rrocr...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
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Any information of CAPS convention?


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Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show

2009-08-14 Thread Scott and Denise Corbett
For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show has
been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus reproducer)
for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale.
One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get down
here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the
show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 lots,
and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a
range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & Hardy's
immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult
time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching him
crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment.
The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard a
concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, what
volume!
Mark your calendars for next August!

-Scott & Denise Corbett

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of rrocr...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150

Any information of CAPS convention?
 

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