Re: [Phono-L] Blanks for Sale and Rich Goodin Contact me.
Sent from Mario's iPhone On 26/09/2010, at 1:44 PM, Thomas Edison wrote: > > Hi Phono L, I have 3 dozen new brown wax blanks for sale, they have channeled > North American rims, and all but 2 blanks are various shades of brown, there > is a white, and a yellow cream colored one in the lots, made of the same > formula, they are just from an earlier batch before I started cast iron > cooking them. Cooking them with cast iron gives them a different surface and > homoginizes the wax better, and duplicates the original brown color, with > slight reddish cast) these blanks fill the entire phonograph mandrel to > facilitate a longer recording, (almost 2:45 @ 160) and may be plated to make > moulds, these blanks have fine spiral ribs inside, much finer than the > original Edison blanks, probably the only way to tell my blanks apart from > one made in 1892! These blanks use high grade Ceresine as the tempering > agent. Price is 150.00 per dozen. Contact me via email or call me at (815) > 608-0024. I might have one more dozen to cast, then I am out of materials. > Since 2000 I ha > ve made around 2,000 pounds of banks. > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] WTB Gold Needle tin
Back again looking for something.. I'm looking for a Nice Gold Needle tin for a standup Victrola. Really, I just need a nice Gold lid to a needle tin so if that's all you have and are missing the bottom half, I'd like to hear from you! Anybody need an Excellent Gold Exhibition Reproducer with box? email me off list if your so inclined ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Blanks for Sale and Rich Goodin Contact me.
Hi Phono L, I have 3 dozen new brown wax blanks for sale, they have channeled North American rims, and all but 2 blanks are various shades of brown, there is a white, and a yellow cream colored one in the lots, made of the same formula, they are just from an earlier batch before I started cast iron cooking them. Cooking them with cast iron gives them a different surface and homoginizes the wax better, and duplicates the original brown color, with slight reddish cast) these blanks fill the entire phonograph mandrel to facilitate a longer recording, (almost 2:45 @ 160) and may be plated to make moulds, these blanks have fine spiral ribs inside, much finer than the original Edison blanks, probably the only way to tell my blanks apart from one made in 1892! These blanks use high grade Ceresine as the tempering agent. Price is 150.00 per dozen. Contact me via email or call me at (815) 608-0024. I might have one more dozen to cast, then I am out of materials. Since 2000 I ha ve made around 2,000 pounds of banks. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Diamond D and heavy weight C reproducer
Hello Greg, The heavy weight C is a diamond C with an extra weight attached to its weight with three screws and set up like an Edisonic. The Diamond D is a Diamond C found on the Amberola 60 and 80 with the extra weight attached to the weight and the spring on the stylus head attached to a hook like the Edisonic. They came out around 1926 and little is known about the C. The pot metal of the weight often expands in the lead of the extra weight and when people separate them damage is done to both pieces. Photos send upon request. Steve > From: gbogan...@charter.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:18:26 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond D and heavy weight C reproducer > > Steve, > > I've never actually seen either a Diamond D or a heavy weight C. What's > the difference between them? Can you post some pictures of them? > > Greg Bogantz > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steven Medved" > To: "Phono-l" ; "phonolist" > > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:30 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Diamond D and heavy weight C reproducer > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > This will have a very narrow band of interest and will likely not produce > > any responses but I will try anyhow. I collect photos and serial number > > of reproducers, below are ones I am interested in. > > > > First I am interested in diamond B reproducers with serial numbers above > > 108,000. > > > > Second I am interested in any diamond C with the brass sound tube that is > > painted black. > > > > Third I am interested in any diamond C above 300,000. If you do not want > > to provide photos a description would be appreciated. All info will be > > kept confidential. You can cut my e-mail and just reply to me if you > > like. > > > > I am interested in information about the Amberola 60 and 80. First if the > > reproducers are rebuilt how do they sound when compared with the Amberola > > 50? I have heard the Diamond D does not sound that good but I wonder how > > much difference the larger horn makes. > > > > Do you have any idea how many were made and how many survive? > > > > I just recently noticed the extra weight on the Diamond D and the Heavy > > weight C is made of lead. I have only 2 of the heavy weight attachments > > and just the weights from 2 diamond D reproducers and 2 of the heavy > > weight C reproducers. The serial numbers from the Diamond D reproducers I > > have seen and my weights are in the 307,000 and 308,000 range. The serial > > number of the only heavy weight C I know of is in the A31000 range. > > Fortunately for me the diamond D weights have the serial numbers. > > > > I also noticed both the diamond B and C weights started out narrow and > > were widened. I will have to see if I can tell when this happened. > > > > Regarding the 80 I know of one in New Zealand, one in Canada, two that > > people I of know own in the US and one that sold on eBay. The NZ one has > > a serial number of 1015. 1033 and 1071 are the serial numbers I have for > > two of the machines I am aware of. If the serial number started with 1000 > > then at least 71 were made, but this is merely an uneducated guess on my > > part. > > > > The heavy weight is made universal so it will fit both the diamond D or > > the heavy weight C. > > > > I have not seen any Diamond D or C above 309,000 and they share serial > > numbers. I have seen a diamond C nickel plated and made of pot metal with > > a serial number over 308,000 so Edison made the diamond C and D at the > > same time. Any information on the heavy weight diamond C would be > > appreciated. My black pot metal one is 306702. > > > > Some facts about the diamond C. All the tops are made of pot metal, > > according to the Frow book the sound tubes were brass for about two years. > > 82804 is the highest nickel plated one I have seen with the brass tube, > > all of them appear to be nickel plated up to 93169 which is painted black > > and has a brass tube, I do not know who painted it. 95497 has the pot > > metal tube and is painted black. > > > > I do not know when the diamond B A series started, but 108700 is the > > highest of the regular series. The first ones have the same limit pin as > > the model O, but by 11965 the later limit pin was used. The late O and N > > reproducers also have the later pin. > > > > Steve > > > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Triumph bedplated wanted
Hey all! I'm seeking to replace my Triumph B bedplate with a "minty" or "pristine" original. I would consider any of the following in order to achieve this: the bedplate alone, bedplate with motor assembly, or would consider the complete bottom works including cabinet. Ideal would be a complete Model D etc cabinet/works (no horn) set up for 2/4 minute to make a swap with my existing wood cygnet horn. any suggestions, offers, helpplease email me off list at hexaph...@sbcglobal.net Thanks! Ron ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Diamond D and heavy weight C reproducer
Steve, I've never actually seen either a Diamond D or a heavy weight C. What's the difference between them? Can you post some pictures of them? Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: "Steven Medved" To: "Phono-l" ; "phonolist" Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Diamond D and heavy weight C reproducer Hello all, This will have a very narrow band of interest and will likely not produce any responses but I will try anyhow. I collect photos and serial number of reproducers, below are ones I am interested in. First I am interested in diamond B reproducers with serial numbers above 108,000. Second I am interested in any diamond C with the brass sound tube that is painted black. Third I am interested in any diamond C above 300,000. If you do not want to provide photos a description would be appreciated. All info will be kept confidential. You can cut my e-mail and just reply to me if you like. I am interested in information about the Amberola 60 and 80. First if the reproducers are rebuilt how do they sound when compared with the Amberola 50? I have heard the Diamond D does not sound that good but I wonder how much difference the larger horn makes. Do you have any idea how many were made and how many survive? I just recently noticed the extra weight on the Diamond D and the Heavy weight C is made of lead. I have only 2 of the heavy weight attachments and just the weights from 2 diamond D reproducers and 2 of the heavy weight C reproducers. The serial numbers from the Diamond D reproducers I have seen and my weights are in the 307,000 and 308,000 range. The serial number of the only heavy weight C I know of is in the A31000 range. Fortunately for me the diamond D weights have the serial numbers. I also noticed both the diamond B and C weights started out narrow and were widened. I will have to see if I can tell when this happened. Regarding the 80 I know of one in New Zealand, one in Canada, two that people I of know own in the US and one that sold on eBay. The NZ one has a serial number of 1015. 1033 and 1071 are the serial numbers I have for two of the machines I am aware of. If the serial number started with 1000 then at least 71 were made, but this is merely an uneducated guess on my part. The heavy weight is made universal so it will fit both the diamond D or the heavy weight C. I have not seen any Diamond D or C above 309,000 and they share serial numbers. I have seen a diamond C nickel plated and made of pot metal with a serial number over 308,000 so Edison made the diamond C and D at the same time. Any information on the heavy weight diamond C would be appreciated. My black pot metal one is 306702. Some facts about the diamond C. All the tops are made of pot metal, according to the Frow book the sound tubes were brass for about two years. 82804 is the highest nickel plated one I have seen with the brass tube, all of them appear to be nickel plated up to 93169 which is painted black and has a brass tube, I do not know who painted it. 95497 has the pot metal tube and is painted black. I do not know when the diamond B A series started, but 108700 is the highest of the regular series. The first ones have the same limit pin as the model O, but by 11965 the later limit pin was used. The late O and N reproducers also have the later pin. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Diamond D and heavy weight C reproducer
Hello all, This will have a very narrow band of interest and will likely not produce any responses but I will try anyhow. I collect photos and serial number of reproducers, below are ones I am interested in. First I am interested in diamond B reproducers with serial numbers above 108,000. Second I am interested in any diamond C with the brass sound tube that is painted black. Third I am interested in any diamond C above 300,000. If you do not want to provide photos a description would be appreciated. All info will be kept confidential. You can cut my e-mail and just reply to me if you like. I am interested in information about the Amberola 60 and 80. First if the reproducers are rebuilt how do they sound when compared with the Amberola 50? I have heard the Diamond D does not sound that good but I wonder how much difference the larger horn makes. Do you have any idea how many were made and how many survive? I just recently noticed the extra weight on the Diamond D and the Heavy weight C is made of lead. I have only 2 of the heavy weight attachments and just the weights from 2 diamond D reproducers and 2 of the heavy weight C reproducers. The serial numbers from the Diamond D reproducers I have seen and my weights are in the 307,000 and 308,000 range. The serial number of the only heavy weight C I know of is in the A31000 range. Fortunately for me the diamond D weights have the serial numbers. I also noticed both the diamond B and C weights started out narrow and were widened. I will have to see if I can tell when this happened. Regarding the 80 I know of one in New Zealand, one in Canada, two that people I of know own in the US and one that sold on eBay. The NZ one has a serial number of 1015. 1033 and 1071 are the serial numbers I have for two of the machines I am aware of. If the serial number started with 1000 then at least 71 were made, but this is merely an uneducated guess on my part. The heavy weight is made universal so it will fit both the diamond D or the heavy weight C. I have not seen any Diamond D or C above 309,000 and they share serial numbers. I have seen a diamond C nickel plated and made of pot metal with a serial number over 308,000 so Edison made the diamond C and D at the same time. Any information on the heavy weight diamond C would be appreciated. My black pot metal one is 306702. Some facts about the diamond C. All the tops are made of pot metal, according to the Frow book the sound tubes were brass for about two years. 82804 is the highest nickel plated one I have seen with the brass tube, all of them appear to be nickel plated up to 93169 which is painted black and has a brass tube, I do not know who painted it. 95497 has the pot metal tube and is painted black. I do not know when the diamond B A series started, but 108700 is the highest of the regular series. The first ones have the same limit pin as the model O, but by 11965 the later limit pin was used. The late O and N reproducers also have the later pin. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phonotop any one can play it
I see at least one person has a severe case of Gotthaveititus. I bet playing a record on that thing is "challenging" to say the least. Lets see you need on e of the old flat Dixie Cups that used to live in the dispenser next to the water cooler, an old top, needle taped to bottom of paper cup and an old record. Speed control is going to be a bit unstable though. Steven Medved wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/220673656596 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Phonotop any one can play it
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[Phono-L] Fireside crank found
Hello all I found an original Fireside crane thanks to someone on the board. Thanks to all who offered assistance! John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Spear Kids Phonograph
I have had very good luck with the reproducers that are riveted together by dropping several drops of oil onto the gaskets and then kinda rolling it around to make sure they are well coated all the way around. You might be amazed by how much it helps! Denise C. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:58 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Spear Kids Phonograph I've drilled out the rivets to rebuild one and then re-riveted but one can certainly use nuts and bolts to put it back together. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob V. Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:44 PM To: Phono L List Subject: [Phono-L] Spear Kids Phonograph I'm downsizing and going through some odds and ends I found a Spear phonograph from the 40's or 50's. I can't remember when or where I acquired it but it must have been a long time ago when I was a novice at phonograph collecting and bought some real junk. The case is lithographed tin and it has an electric motor. The graphics on it were pretty good so I decided to clean it up a little and give it a spin. Even for a cheap kids machine I can't believe how bad it sounded. the motor is noisy and the reproducer is abysmal. I can't find any damage but I'm sure it had to sound better when new to be a saleable product. Any of you ever try to fix one of these? I can't figure out how to get the reproducer off the plastic tone arm much less disassemble it. The two halves are held together with rivets. I'm sure most of you will think that I'm nuts or have too much time on my hands to be fiddling with this thing. I'd like to get it sounding a little better to give to one of my grand children. Anyone have any ideas what can be done with one of these to improve the sound quality? Thanks ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Maroon Gem photos
I think a nice phono is worth sharing, so here's a link to the Maroon Gem I just got. I had the horn already, so I paired them up. This is why I wanted an original Fireside crane. John http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Edison%20Gem%20Model%20D/ PS Photobucket is an easy and free medium for uploading your photos to the web. You can set it for private or public photos and videos. I'd like to see some of your favorite phonos!! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] PS to last post
If you mouse over the picture and click, it will be magnified. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
