Re: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question
Hello Harvey, I have the tap order written down and I will order today or tomorrow, I need to hear back from one person. If you have any other questions please let me know and send your address. Steve Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:35:53 -0800 From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question Steve, I would like 2 of the 1-56 taps. What size drill should be used in case you have to drill out a broken screw? Harvey Kravitz From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question Steve: I sure would like 2 of the 1-56. In the event you have them for the other Victor reproducers,( if different than 1-56, 2 of each as well. . Please let me know Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:17 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question 1-56 for the Exhibition. I am almost positive 1-72 on the 2, 4 and 5 Victor reproducers, I will double check unless someone else confirms. Do you need a 1-56 tap? I have some NOS ones. If a number of people want them I can put an order together as the cost will be under $2.50 for each one if they are still available. I like two, one I keep the point on and one I grind flat. I believe they are from the 1950's as they are deeply stamped. Steve From: maff...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:36:35 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor reproducer question Phono listers: What are the thread sizes for the thumb screw on: Victor: exhibition, n. 2, and 4a reproducers? again thanks Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Triumph Cygnet Horn Crane
I have two Triumphs with O reproducers. One has an original cygnet crane (10 to the bend) and the other is a reproduction (8 to the bend)..obviously the wrong crane for this machine. I am looking for either an original or reproduction Triumph crane. Many thanks. Bob Kolba ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Triumph Cygnet Horn Crane
Hello Bob and list, There are several types of cranes. The early ones do not have the spring at the top and require a metal tizit to work and are not as high as the later ones which are made higher at the top to accomodate the spring. The later ones have the spring at the top and need to be higher to accomodate the spring. There are cranes that are made for the horizontal carriage. There are cranes that are made for the 45 degree carriages. The difference is about three inches in where it falls. I would recommend Ron Sitko at 518-371-8549, you can call him in the evening between 7 and 10 pm, he is in New York. Another guy had the same problem and he called Ron and got the correct crane at a good price. Steve From: rkolba0...@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:53:31 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph Cygnet Horn Crane I have two Triumphs with O reproducers. One has an original cygnet crane (10 to the bend) and the other is a reproduction (8 to the bend)..obviously the wrong crane for this machine. I am looking for either an original or reproduction Triumph crane. Many thanks. Bob Kolba ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Triumph Cygnet Horn Crane
Hi Steve ~ I recall the Triumph horn crane issues coming up some time back on this forum. Can you elaborate if/when you have time, on the difference between the cranes made for the horizontal carriage vs. the cranes made for the angled carriage? I thought I'd resolve the tracking differences on my Triumph (Gfell Music Master, reproduction crane) with a Tiz-it, but was concerned about losing audio velocity as the carriage travels through its looser-fit positions during the course of playing a cylinder (snug-to-loose fit of Tiz-it to horn). With the rubber horn coupler (which I use to avoid Tiz-it losses), it's the usual problem of no matter how carefully the suspension spring is adjusted, there's a small portion of the tracking that fairly jams the carriage down to the straightedge, and the rest barely touches. A solution might be to secure the Tiz-it with an internal sleeve of rubber, to seal the upper (tapered) part of the Tiz-it to the inside of the horn stem, and allow the constant-diameter sleeve portion of the Tiz-it to ride up and down on the reproducer neck during play, the suspension spring being adjusted so the Tiz-it base just barely bottoms on the reproducer when the over all travel is at its closest position. This would be minimal loss of air pressure, but not as good as a rubber coupler, and would have the added disadvantage of wear to the nickel plating on the reproducer tube. A thin layer of white lithium grease, though a dust-catcher, might take care of these two deficits (sealing and friction wear). Would love to get your thoughts on this if you have time. Not urgent. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Steven Medved wrote: Hello Bob and list, There are several types of cranes. The early ones do not have the spring at the top and require a metal tizit to work and are not as high as the later ones which are made higher at the top to accomodate the spring. The later ones have the spring at the top and need to be higher to accomodate the spring. There are cranes that are made for the horizontal carriage. There are cranes that are made for the 45 degree carriages. The difference is about three inches in where it falls. I would recommend Ron Sitko at 518-371-8549, you can call him in the evening between 7 and 10 pm, he is in New York. Another guy had the same problem and he called Ron and got the correct crane at a good price. Steve From: rkolba0...@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:53:31 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph Cygnet Horn Crane I have two Triumphs with O reproducers. One has an original cygnet crane (10 to the bend) and the other is a reproduction (8 to the bend)..obviously the wrong crane for this machine. I am looking for either an original or reproduction Triumph crane. Many thanks. Bob Kolba ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Triumph Cygnet Horn Crane
The early ones need the tizit or when the carriage moves the rubber will lift the horn up. The first crane with no spring was designed to work with the tizit which allows the horn to lift up as there is no spring to absorb the movement. The one that uses the spring and horn rubber seals in all the sound. I am not sure but I think the horizontal and 45 degree carriage is different, I will have to check with Sitko to be sure, if they differ the upper C would have the lower part 3 inches longer or shorter. If you do use a tizit you can seal the sound in with grease like vaseline, you have to watch it does not make a mess. The diamond C is designed with the grooves in the sound tube to be used with Vaseline for lubrication and sealing the sound in. You are correct, grease would solve the sound leak and movement issues. Steve From: a...@popyrus.com Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:19:54 -0700 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Triumph Cygnet Horn Crane Hi Steve ~ I recall the Triumph horn crane issues coming up some time back on this forum. Can you elaborate if/when you have time, on the difference between the cranes made for the horizontal carriage vs. the cranes made for the angled carriage? I thought I'd resolve the tracking differences on my Triumph (Gfell Music Master, reproduction crane) with a Tiz-it, but was concerned about losing audio velocity as the carriage travels through its looser-fit positions during the course of playing a cylinder (snug-to-loose fit of Tiz-it to horn). With the rubber horn coupler (which I use to avoid Tiz-it losses), it's the usual problem of no matter how carefully the suspension spring is adjusted, there's a small portion of the tracking that fairly jams the carriage down to the straightedge, and the rest barely touches. A solution might be to secure the Tiz-it with an internal sleeve of rubber, to seal the upper (tapered) part of the Tiz-it to the inside of the horn stem, and allow the constant-diameter sleeve portion of the Tiz-it to ride up and down on the reproducer neck during play, the suspension spring being adjusted so the Tiz-it base just barely bottoms on the reproducer when the over all travel is at its closest position. This would be minimal loss of air pressure, but not as good as a rubber coupler, and would have the added disadvantage of wear to the nickel plating on the reproducer tube. A thin layer of white lithium grease, though a dust-catcher, might take care of these two deficits (sealing and friction wear). Would love to get your thoughts on this if you have time. Not urgent. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Steven Medved wrote: Hello Bob and list, There are several types of cranes. The early ones do not have the spring at the top and require a metal tizit to work and are not as high as the later ones which are made higher at the top to accomodate the spring. The later ones have the spring at the top and need to be higher to accomodate the spring. There are cranes that are made for the horizontal carriage. There are cranes that are made for the 45 degree carriages. The difference is about three inches in where it falls. I would recommend Ron Sitko at 518-371-8549, you can call him in the evening between 7 and 10 pm, he is in New York. Another guy had the same problem and he called Ron and got the correct crane at a good price. Steve From: rkolba0...@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:53:31 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph Cygnet Horn Crane I have two Triumphs with O reproducers. One has an original cygnet crane (10 to the bend) and the other is a reproduction (8 to the bend)..obviously the wrong crane for this machine. I am looking for either an original or reproduction Triumph crane. Many thanks. Bob Kolba ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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I've blocked Jerry's emails until he gets his system cleaned up. In the meantime, please don't reply and include his original link, or click on that link - which could be infected. On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:40 AM, DeeDee Blais wrote: snip ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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So far they haven't been infected - just Jerry's way of helping the less fortunate Loran Hughes wrote: I've blocked Jerry's emails until he gets his system cleaned up. In the meantime, please don't reply and include his original link, or click on that link - which could be infected. On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:40 AM, DeeDee Blais wrote: snip ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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How Dare you put something like that on this list, I hope it does not give me a virus or something.I had to hit cancel or delete about ten times before I got away from it. Jerry F Bacon-Dallas,Tx ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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I seriously doubt that he posted that intentionally. One of the spammers must have grabbed his email address book, or taken over his computer. Jim On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:34 PM, jerry f bacon wrote: How Dare you put something like that on this list, I hope it does not give me a virus or something.I had to hit cancel or delete about ten times before I got away from it. Jerry F Bacon-Dallas,Tx ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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I don't Jerry had any control over it. He was hijacked. I agree with Darrell, I did not see any squawks from my virus program but that means little. I'd guess you will be OK. No one is at fault here, it can happen to anyone. Mike Oldcranky. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM, jerry f bacon artemp...@sbcglobal.netwrote: How Dare you put something like that on this list, I hope it does not give me a virus or something.I had to hit cancel or delete about ten times before I got away from it. Jerry F Bacon-Dallas,Tx ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Virus Link (was no subject)
I'm sorry that got out on the list - Phono-L has a pretty good track record of catching spam viruses. If you clicked on it, you will want to scan your computer. Jerry would not have posted that intentionally - someone has hijacked his email account. Regards, Loran On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: I seriously doubt that he posted that intentionally. One of the spammers must have grabbed his email address book, or taken over his computer. Jim On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:34 PM, jerry f bacon wrote: How Dare you put something like that on this list, I hope it does not give me a virus or something.I had to hit cancel or delete about ten times before I got away from it. Jerry F Bacon-Dallas,Tx ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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To clarify... I Googled the first part of the link before I clicked on the link and it took me a web page telling me something like I could make millions working at home an hour a day - that must be how Jerry got his collection money... ? But it could have been a damaging one so I wouldn't recommend clicking on a link you can't pre-check. Mike Stitt wrote: I don't Jerry had any control over it. He was hijacked. I agree with Darrell, I did not see any squawks from my virus program but that means little. I'd guess you will be OK. No one is at fault here, it can happen to anyone. Mike Oldcranky. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM, jerry f baconartemp...@sbcglobal.netwrote: How Dare you put something like that on this list, I hope it does not give me a virus or something.I had to hit cancel or delete about ten times before I got away from it. Jerry F Bacon-Dallas,Tx ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] (no subject)
This has happened on quite a few lists recently. To add to what others have said, it's important to *never* click on a link in an email when there's no accompanying note to describe what it is, especially if the email also has no subject line and/or is addressed to multiple recipients. This is always spam or a virus. -- Bill On 2/27/2012 7:11 PM, Mike Stitt wrote: I don't Jerry had any control over it. He was hijacked. I agree with Darrell, I did not see any squawks from my virus program but that means little. I'd guess you will be OK. No one is at fault here, it can happen to anyone. Mike Oldcranky. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM, jerry f baconartemp...@sbcglobal.netwrote: How Dare you put something like that on this list, I hope it does not give me a virus or something.I had to hit cancel or delete about ten times before I got away from it. Jerry F Bacon-Dallas,Tx ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Newton's Law to prevent hacking
Hello to all, The key thing I have noted lately is when a person's e-mail is hacked there is (no subject) in the subject. There are two main types of hacking, the first someone discovers your e-mail password and send from you e-mail, this is easy to fix with a new password. I have used roboform for years and I have over 100 passwords, it really helps. The second type they just make it look like it came from your e-mail, but there is nothing in your sent box. This is embarassing, no one will intentionally send something like that on the list. If your password is weak add characters and read what the famous Mr. Newton has to say: Please read... this is important: There have been an increasing number of times over the past 6 months where spammers have signed up to email lists or managed to hack into mail list email accounts and thus making you a victim of this rapidly increasing spamming method. Here's how and what happens and how to prevent you falling for this: === A spammer hacks into your email account and uses it to send spam to your entire address book making it look like YOU have sent the spam. It is usually selling phony Viagra, other drugs, promoting porn sites or a make money fast scam, ALL of which are skillfully designed to part you with your hard earned money. If you have a fairly sizable address list the spammer will break up the list and send a number of different messages to cover your entire address book without raising undue suspicion. You won't probably know anything about this until it is too late or until someone advises you about the phony messages sent under your name, apparently by you. HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS AND STOP IT: = Once you become aware of this, you need to immediately sign in to your account, if you still can, and change to a secure password ASAP! The spammers usually don't change your password because they don't want to raise your suspicions that anything is out of the ordinary. They will keep coming back and send more spam under your name until YOU stop them! See below for what is secure for a new password. I suggest you immediately advise everyone in your email address book. Look in your SENT mail... you will likely see everyone who got the messages. You will probably receive bounced returns as well. If those returns were all out of your address book, you can bet the spammer sent to every one of them, a few at a time so as not to raise your ISP's suspicions with a pile of outgoing identical emails! You ask... how did they find your password? My bet is they did a dictionary attack. Was your password a small 6-8 character common word? You are one of many who has had this problem in the past few months. I'd give your friends a heads up... remember the spammer now has ALL their addresses and you can bet they'll be doing dictionary attacks on them as well. If you don't change your password, they'll be back with more spam. Change it to something secure from a dictionary attack... use something like:- apple*sauce other symbols are also good~^+=| Two words separated by a symbol is secure (but don't use my example!). Oh yes... If you haven't had this happen to you, AND you still use a weak password on your email account, then it is only a matter of time before a spammer rolls you over! They love email accounts because they usually lead to a pile of email address that they can use to send their drivel to. Go to your email account NOW WHILE YOU THINK ABOUT THIS CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD TO SOMETHING SECURE! I've written about this before recently, and people who ignored my warning have since been taken by the spammers... you can bet there will be more! ... Graham Newton ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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This happened to my about four years ago, I ran five different virus programs and it happened a second time. I changed my password to one with characters (following Newton's Law) and I have not had any problems since. Jerry has a sterling character and the best bunch of friends you could ask for. He is one of the few people I will buy from sight unseen. Steve I don't Jerry had any control over it. He was hijacked. I agree with Darrell, I did not see any squawks from my virus program but that means little. I'd guess you will be OK. No one is at fault here, it can happen to anyone. Mike Oldcranky. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM, jerry f bacon artemp...@sbcglobal.netwrote: How Dare you put something like that on this list, I hope it does not give me a virus or something.I had to hit cancel or delete about ten times before I got away from it. Jerry F Bacon-Dallas,Tx ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] 'Under The Anheuser Bush' cylinder wanted
A friend of mine who works for Budweiser dropped his copy of 'Under The Anheuser Bush' today and his wife is trying to replace it for him. If anyone has a clean spare copy for sale, please let me know and I'll hook it up. Thanks! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
