Re: [Phono-L] Any modern-produced 78s?
There are at least a dozen pressing plants in the US alone that still produce 33 1/3 and 45 RPM records. These are predominantly for record collectors and audiophiles. I to some degree doubt that they could produce a viable 78rpm record that people would want as they are using Vinyl presses and any older 78rpm phonograph would destroy them with one play. You can get a lot of amazing material still on LP, I have an older Linn turntable from scotland and it really has a sound that is amazing even compared to modern equipment. Bill On 6/30/13 8:54 PM, Matthew Bullis matthewbul...@runbox.com wrote: Hello from hot Phoenix. I'm wondering if there are any modern 78s that have been produced any time recently? The only one I ever heard of was the one produced in the 70s by R. Crumb, of novelty songs. I bought the three pieces that comprise a modern cartridge for my Stanton turntable, so that my existing 78s play as well as they can for my ability to transfer them digitally. This ability made me think of my question. I know that some analog manufacturers, especially of the Bluenote label, have been producing lps that are the size of 33s but actually play at 45 speed. Perhaps the reason they don't consider 78 speed is because you need to use a wider needle. I've never understood why the manufacturers of those USB turntables don't get a double stylus so that you don't wreck your 78s with a 33 needle, but that's a different subject. Anyhow, any thoughts about my original question? Matthew ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Interesting or Uninteresting Suitcase standard observation.
I picked up a suitcase standard very inexpensively today (of the 2 clip variety). I got it and started to look at it and realized that it's mechanism is different than the banner model A standard. The spring barrel is smaller and appears to use a different spring and the turn off mechanism appears different and just presses on the governor yolk instead of having a felt brake of it's own. In addition, it appears no gear cover ever existed for this machine as there are no holes and no way to affix the model A 2 minute gear cover without drilling a hole. I thought the mechanisms were identical, so I guess it was just a bit of education. Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Interesting or Uninteresting Suitcase standard observation.
It has a winged C and older style carriage thumbscrew. Serial #3624 Bill On 3/25/13 8:23 PM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: Hello Bill, What is the serial number of the Standard? The early ones do not have a gear cover. Did it have a reproducer? Steve Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:56:46 -0500 From: b...@taney.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Interesting or Uninteresting Suitcase standard observation. I picked up a suitcase standard very inexpensively today (of the 2 clip variety). I got it and started to look at it and realized that it's mechanism is different than the banner model A standard. The spring barrel is smaller and appears to use a different spring and the turn off mechanism appears different and just presses on the governor yolk instead of having a felt brake of it's own. In addition, it appears no gear cover ever existed for this machine as there are no holes and no way to affix the model A 2 minute gear cover without drilling a hole. I thought the mechanisms were identical, so I guess it was just a bit of education. Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Amberola 50 gear cover wanted to buy
I picked up a Amberola Model 50 today and it is missing the gear cover and screws, otherwise it's in really great shape. Does anyone have an extra Amberola 50 gear cover and hopefully screws they would like to sell? On another less pressing note, I am looking for a mint fireside model A. Anyone have any leads on either of these I would appreciate it. Thanks Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion
Anyone have an opinion on these horns or know the origin? http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUNNING-REPRODUCTION-MAHOGANY-WOOD-CYGNET-HORN-EDI SON-OPERA-PHONOGRAPH-/28100366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4170375b9 e Bill On 1/25/13 9:17 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Hi Mike, It is for a friend, Kirk, so I am forwarding your e-mail to him. Thanks, Ronald L'Herault Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division B.U. School of Dental Medicine 801 Albany Street S203 Roxbury, MA 02119 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:17 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Eclipse governor Ron, What exactly do you need? The whole offset governor, the governor assembly with shaft or the governor assembly without shaft? The governor is a two ball type and uses the normal Edison governor disc and small end, but with two holes instead of 3 or 4. A 3 can be adjusted to suit and the governor springs are standard Edison springs as per Standards etc. Mike Tucker On 25/01/2013 2:32 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: A good friend of mine needs a governor for an Eclipse. Did any other Edison machines use this same governor? Anyone got one? Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion
Are these similar to the Gfell horns? Any opinion on the quality, authenticity of one vs the other? I am seriously tempted to buy this horn, I think it would look great on my opera. I have a nice opera with an original horn that the previous owner a mediocre restoration job and now it is coming apart again. Bill On 1/25/13 2:18 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: These are from Lima, Peru and I believe they are made by the same guy who makes Victor six cabinets, columns, capitals, etc. - so good you can't tell the difference, especially in 10-20 years, when the finish ages. Judging by the quality of the horn in the pic, it will probably have a negative effect on the price of a good quality original Edison... I know that I wouldn't pay big bucks for one, when I can get one that looks just as good for this price. This is part of the same problem that devalued Vogue Picture discs, not just eBay, but when a company like Bear records in Germany reproduces Vogues and they look the same (except for a black edge) it devalues the originals. It's all about supply and demand - if someone provides an adequate supply, demand and price decrease... Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:58:58 -0600 From: b...@taney.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion Anyone have an opinion on these horns or know the origin? http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUNNING-REPRODUCTION-MAHOGANY-WOOD-CYGNET-HORN-E DI SON-OPERA-PHONOGRAPH-/28100366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4170375 b9 e Bill On 1/25/13 9:17 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Hi Mike, It is for a friend, Kirk, so I am forwarding your e-mail to him. Thanks, Ronald L'Herault Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division B.U. School of Dental Medicine 801 Albany Street S203 Roxbury, MA 02119 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:17 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Eclipse governor Ron, What exactly do you need? The whole offset governor, the governor assembly with shaft or the governor assembly without shaft? The governor is a two ball type and uses the normal Edison governor disc and small end, but with two holes instead of 3 or 4. A 3 can be adjusted to suit and the governor springs are standard Edison springs as per Standards etc. Mike Tucker On 25/01/2013 2:32 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: A good friend of mine needs a governor for an Eclipse. Did any other Edison machines use this same governor? Anyone got one? Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Edison Portable - some should jump on this
Not really interested myself in lateral machines, but here is a rarity going cheep. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-1929-Edison-P-2-Needle-Type-Portable-P honograph-/251094688850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7668e452#ht_5537wt _1026 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Diamond Model A
Anyone have an extra diamond model A they want to part with? Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Union wishlist
Brice, where will you be? Thanks Bill On 6/7/12 10:42 PM, Brice Paris antqf...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill see brice Paris he brought a Very nice original one with receipt and instructions book On Jun 7, 2012, at 11:03 AM, William Taney b...@taney.com wrote: I have a friend looking for a nice oak Amberola 75 Bill On 6/7/12 10:35 AM, Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net wrote: If anyone has a Remove this Tag to attach Tapered Arm metal tag for a Victor, please contact me at the Union Phonograph show. I set up in the back room in the Northeast corner. I am also on the hunt for Victor volume controls and wooden Victor reproducer boxes. I plan on bringing a large amount of horns, reproducers and other miscellaneous parts for sale along with a project Victor III and some Edison Homes. Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Union wishlist
I have a friend looking for a nice oak Amberola 75 Bill On 6/7/12 10:35 AM, Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net wrote: If anyone has a Remove this Tag to attach Tapered Arm metal tag for a Victor, please contact me at the Union Phonograph show. I set up in the back room in the Northeast corner. I am also on the hunt for Victor volume controls and wooden Victor reproducer boxes. I plan on bringing a large amount of horns, reproducers and other miscellaneous parts for sale along with a project Victor III and some Edison Homes. Thanks, Ken Brekke ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism
My understanding is you don't even need to swap mechanisms, you can install a second spring barrel in a model 30 and have the same result. Bill On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Bob Maffit wrote: Phono Folks: I have heard in the past that one can take an Edison Amberola 50 mechanism and drop it in an Amberola 30 case with no problem, and have a machine (sort of a hotrod which has the attributes' of the longer playing 50 in a smaller case. Is this so? What modifications if any, is needed to do this? Discussion regarding this matter would be appreciated. later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Any interest in a mahogany A-150 Diamond Disk?
Not really interested in a A-150. Am still on the lookout for the perfect A-250. Bill On Sep 11, 2011, at 9:06 PM, DeeDee Blais wrote: If anyone has any interest in an Edison A-150 please let me know. It's an original mahogany example in good shape. It needs a stylus and the on/off control. I am happy to send photos. Jerry Blais ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Mystery box (Edison)
I didn't know that edison ever made a lateral option with his DD phono's except the last gasp Edisonics. Does anyone have one of these or a picture of one? On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Philip Carli wrote: I know on the earlier part of this forum someone mentioned the possibility of the box holding the DD reproducer for shipping, and this was disproven -- but could the box have been, in part, to hold the Edison _lateral_ reproducer option that was briefly marketed into 1914? PC From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of Andrew Baron [a...@popyrus.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:49 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery box (Edison) I'm sure someone on this forum must know the answer, but wasn't sure some of you might have seen it based on the previous subject line. My original inquiry is copied below. The 3/4 holes are also bored at a slant. Wonder if they're for tubes of grease or? - Original Message - From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:52:51 PM Subject: [Phono-L] A-200, A-250 early DD question Can someone educate me on what the small wood box was for, that's found in the horn compartment in some early Edison Disc Phonographs? The size is 7 long by 3.5 wide, by 3 tall, and it has a wedge shaped block inside that has two 3/4 holes side by side that are 3 to 3.5 inches deep. The wedge block, which is glued in, occupies about half of the interior volume of the box. I assume this contained a kit of lubricants, possibly an oil can, etc., but it would be great to know in more detail what its original purpose was, and greater still to see a photo of how it was equipped when new. Does anyone know when they stopped doing this? Thanks in advance for any insights. Andrew Baron Santa Fe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Odd pairing
could be 100 bucks in parts there... Note that there is a damper rod near the back for volume. Could the rest be some kind of brunswick? Bill On Aug 15, 2011, at 9:32 AM, john robles wrote: I hate to see people get taken in by this type of shenanigan. Possibly the seller doesn't know what it is, but it is still sad. John Robles From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:26 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Odd pairing This is at least two machines. The one clearly is Victor, the other is a cabinet from? The cabinet may be truncated. Anyone know what it's made from? eBay Item number:250872404619 Andy Baron Santa Fe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] auctioning phonos
Can you post a list of the Edison machines and Cylinder records? Bill On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:23 PM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Do you have the record collection in a word document or other file that you can send out for review. Any record collector worth his salt is going to want to know that is in the collection ie: Titles, artists, labels, condition, etc. in order justify shelling out the cash for the price you wish to get for the records ! - Original Message - From: ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ge...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:10:22 PM Subject: [Phono-L] auctioning phonos I talked to Stanton a couple of years ago. He wanted to buy outright, would not auction. He practically told me that the records and horns were worth nothing! But then, of course, things were not as well organized as I have them now. Meanwhile, I still want to sell everything at once, not just the Hexaphone. Selling just the Hex leaves me with the other machines and hundreds of records, dozen horns, etc. which I can't pack to ship, so it'd be a struggle to piece it all out separately. Th anks again for input. - Original Message - From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:00:00 PM Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 218 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. Re: auction fees (George) 2. Re: auction fees (bruce78...@comcast.net) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:12:17 -0400 From: George victr...@triton.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees Message-ID: 4FA6140BE4E74754BE9F4F1B3D0EBC31@VALUEDCB7D4C82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Maybe you ought to contact Stanton's Auctions and talk to them about a consignment. They have their fall phonograph auction coming up in Nov. They do pickup. Steve knows his stuff and is very honest and reliable. Thank you, George Vollema Great Lakes Antique Phonograph Newaygo MI 49337-8556 www.victroladoctor.com - Original Message - From: ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ge...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:48 PM Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 20% and to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe auctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized later, that a ringer could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a few hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no charge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a put-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the replies I got here. Thanks folks, many thanks!!! Ger If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, please let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real this time. ;) Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer area incorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a bunch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue Amberols (a couple of other odd ones too some good wax). Everything is catalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with diamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be cherry-picked. :) PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their immediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on daily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that too. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:23:03 + (UTC) From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees Message-ID: 1246061143.275096.1311013383617.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net Content-Type:
Re: [Phono-L] cylinder speed tester
For 12 bucks you really can't go wrong with the laser, it is way more reliable and surefire than counting manually and all the cylinder strobes I have seen pretty much suck. And yes, new lightbulbs render them useless, CFL's don't flicker @ 60hz.. Bill On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Steven Medved wrote: I tried this, I had to count the times it hit my finger. From: tom...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:58:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] cylinder speed tester Please don't laugh, but I stick a small piece of paper under the edge of the cylinder on the mandrel and use a stop watch and count how many times the little piece of paper comes around. Just a little bit of basic math and you can accurately adjust the speed of your machine. I like to do things the hard way though. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Norman Bruderhofer Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:42 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] cylinder speed tester Hi Mike, You are certainly thinking of a laser techometer. These have become so cheap, that I can recommend to anyone as a useful tool. I bought my first one about five years ago for approx. $100, now they're down to as low as $12. I have one of these cheapos too. It has the same precision as my expensive one. You may want to consider this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/150600097532 And you don't need a special reflective tape, plain white paper will also work fine. Works also great with disc machines and modern turntables. Best, Norman On 06.07.2011 08:00, mdsor...@aol.com wrote: Hello everyone, Sometime about a year ago, there was discussion on phono-l about a way to test cylinder speed using an electronic instrument that could be cheaply found on ebay. Anyone remember what this was? I meant to buy one at the time, but lost all of the information. Any help is appreciated! Mike Sorter ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Sent from my Thunderbird OpenSource Mail Client ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] looking for a report on union
There was one out in the tent directly past the door to the hall. Bill On Jun 13, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Bruce wrote: I didn't see a VTLA but Doug Defeis did have a Circassion 16 for sale. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of nick manolakis Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:51 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] looking for a report on union Hi you all, I heard that someone had a nice VTLA CIRCASSION WALNUT. Does anyone know if it was sold? Or, if it possibly was not sold, does anyone have the sellers name contact information? Thank you, Nick - Original Message - From: Scott M phonogra...@charter.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] looking for a report on union HI Rob; Union was great this year. There were so many high-quality phonographs, tons of records, lots of brown wax, and things seemed to be selling. This was the year of Victor 6s, Edison Operas, Zonophones(at least 3 Model A's and a model B.) The show didn't get crowded until late morning and from the people I spoke with, they said they sold fairly well. Some of the highlights I saw were: Bell-Tainter Model G North American Edison Bell Commercial Mahogany Victor 5 Columiba S Coin-op with its base I didn't really check the prices, since I wasn't much of a buyer this year. I'm sure someone else can fill this in. Overall, prices were fair, but on the high-end items, the prices were high. It just shows that the best of the best keeps going up and can be a good investment. Scott -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:39 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] looking for a report on union hi all ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Amberola D-X flutter troubleshooting
Got a question. I have a Amberola D-X that has a flutter or water sound when playing. I have made it a new belt, it is clean lubricated and the motor runs strong. The only thing I have to suspect is the mandrel pulley. Do those swell or become deformed. The mandrel pulley is pot metal and appears to have flakes, I cleaned it but am wondering if it is out of round? If you watch the motor run the tensioner moves in and out more than I would expect leading me to believe something is out of round or a shaft is bent... Any advice? Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] How long do you leave Kotton Kleanser on.
I am about to clean up a cabinet with Kotton Kleanser and want to know how long should it be left on before wiping? Is it safe on the decals? Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Barney Google Blue Amberol
It's Blue Amberol 4757 On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:57 AM, D P Ingram wrote: Cylinder number ? ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦ ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦ www.ingram.fi ¦ ¦ ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi ¦ ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001 ¦ On 5 jun 2011, at 07.37, Bill Taney wrote: If anyone has an extra copy that they would like to sell at Union, let me know. Bill Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy
I bid on one of them too. I think I stopped at about 700 and also had the feeling it would be a machine that might wind up in storage and felt that would be a waste (what good is a machine if you don't play it occasionally) Bill On May 27, 2011, at 10:40 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Makes you wonder what happened to all of the AN machines that went over to the Battlefields of Europe to entertain the Troups, and what happened to all of them after the War was over. How many were abandoned over there and never brought back, and if not, what the did the respective Military units do with the machines that eventually found there way back to the USA ? Bruce - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercer maxbu...@wowway.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I agree with Bill. I've seen four or five A/N on ebay in that time span. I remember the cheapest was 650.00, the others were right at 800.00. One was in very nice cosmetic condition with some paperwork. I almost bid on it myself it was so nice, then came to my senses about 'where' I would put it. Check religiously and one will pop up. Bruce - Original Message - From: Bill Taney b...@taney.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I have seen 4 up for sale in the last 2 years on eBay. They seem to be worth about 800 bucks. Bill Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2011, at 8:47 AM, ny victrolaman victrola...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. I've read the Frow book many times, but I was hoping for something more recent and maybe crowd-sourced. How about the second half of my inquiry: How difficult would it be to find one today in fairly good condition, and how much should such an example command in today's market? On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Philip Carli philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu wrote: Check the Frow book -- he certainly gives production history for the model. PC From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 6:55 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I am not sure whether those statistics exist anywhere. If anyone would know it would be Author and Edison Historian and expert Ron Dethlefson or possibly the curator of the Edison Historic Site. I have an original Army Navy, and it has serial number 2934, which is one of the highest serial numbers I have encountered for AN Edison phonographs. How many still exist ? I could wager a wild guess and say, maybe less then 100 ? again, just a guess. I am not sure what % survival estimates, phonograph historians place on models where the actual production output is known. Bruce - Original Message - From: ny victrolaman victrola...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:33:07 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy Does anyone have any idea how many Edison Army Navy phonographs were made during World War I, and how many might still exist? How hard would it be to find one in good (preferably original) condition, and what should one expect to pay for one? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Kotton Cleanser / New Life Wood Conditioner technique advice
What would the recommendation be for cleaning up a cabinet the clearly does not warrent refinishing but is dirty and a bit alligatored and darkened? It is an Edison cylinder machine. Also what do you do about the banner, are these safe on the decals? Also which of these two is the better and less destructive.. Bill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] You gotta love this... Museum Quality Black PattiRecord
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Antique-Early-Edison-Phonograph-w-Cygnet-horn-/120725347090?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1bca9b12#ht_1213wt_948 This is a pretty awesome external horn Amberola 30 if anyone has a grand floating around for that type of greatness. Bill On May 18, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Albert wrote: I also had a good experience with Richard Tussey. I was able to purchase a vast collection of 78s from an estate. It was in my early days of collecting and I really didnt want to be a record collector so I put the word out and he called me. I went to his home and it was floor to ceiling records a real compulsive disorder type. No room for household goods. I dont think he even had heat. With the purchase of my collection he surely had the largest 78 rpm collection I have ever seen. but most of the records were juked to death. He paid me mostly cash but the rest in rare records. Mostly Black swans and needle cut electrics. He had them all. I did trade him for some Black Blues music. I always wondered what happened to him. His eyesight was so bad he could not drive so he rode a bicycle. I wish him well. Al Menashe in Portland. - Original Message - From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] You gotta love this... Museum Quality Black PattiRecord I dealt with this seller some time ago. His name is Frederick Tussey. Perhaps the Richard comes from the fact that his full name is Frederick R. Tussey - or it's just a coincidence on the last name. But the coincidence of the poor eyesight statement from Mike would lead me to believe it's the same person. Anyway, in my dealings with him 4 years ago it was pleasant as we traded some things after I made a purchase. I've been told he's legally blind so grading is somewhat of a mystery and perhaps why he chooses the route he does now. Not defending it, just making a statement. I find it difficult to buy something ungraded. Interestingly, at the time he was saying he had plans to do a book on record sleeves and that's what he traded for. This guy has generated a lot of banter on 78-l as well. Who knows what's lead him to his current state - perhaps fallen on hard times - but it's his choice to try and sell records at high prices. Some will bite, many won't. It would be in his best interest, though, if he worked to keep his customers happy. The seller that called the record a repro is a knowledgeable collector. Too bad he didn't work it out with his customer. Glenn From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 10:16:19 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] You gotta love this... Museum Quality Black Patti Record Good morning again all, Found the last name. It is The Record Ranger. Richard Tussey. It 's public. I knew he was near St. Louis. This is odd as Richard knows what these are worth. He has very poor eye sight so one not prone to fishing. I split a label collection with him years ago. Other than a few very hard to get labels he has, I have them too. I would sell them all for the price of just one of those records. Mike Oldcranky On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com wrote: Good moring all. Al I'm waking up and drinking coffee; so I don't see a last name. A Portland collector did move to Missouri some years back. The Record Ranger. I'll leave his last name out of it but this doesn't seem his style. Lived off of MLK Blvd. You could hardly walk around in the old house, straining to stay up right under the load. Al missed you at Salem. Would have liked to see yo. Next time. Mike Oldcranky On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Albert cen...@comcast.net wrote: Very strange, he has tons of feedback and every record sold for exactly the same amount, $24.99. Portland Collectors, notice this guys last name. Several years back there was an obsessive record collector here in Portland, entire home, floor to ceiling 78's, Same last name! - Original Message - From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] You gotta love this... Museum Quality Black Patti Record Yes and here is another absolute bargain on an early Improved Gramophone Record, by the same seller. There are loads of bargains like this offered by this World Renown Collector of Museum Quality Records.!! Scanning through his listings is loads of cheap fun !! http://cgi.ebay.com/78-RPM-MUSEUM-QUALITY-1901-IMPROVED-GRAMOPHONE-NO-GRADE-/390307006718?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5ae01c48fe e - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:06:10 PM Subject:
Re: [Phono-L] You gotta love this... Museum Quality Black Patti Record
He may just be crazy not know what these things are worth.. Most of his sales were $25 dollar Champion/Gennett Country and Western records and if you are looking for a particular title or record 25 bucks is not that much to pop for. How he came up with 12,500 for that Victor Sousa record I just can't imagine… On May 16, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Don Dellmann wrote: - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] You gotta love this... Museum Quality Black Patti Record This guy is not only a joke, but something very strange is going on with his eBay account. I checked his feedback - back to January of this year and found a very peculiar situation. One buyer named lgirmscher has supposedly bought and left positive feedback for 79 records since January 13 and paid anywhere from $24.99 - $83.52 each. The peculiar part of this is that lgirmscher had a rating of (209) purchases on Jan. 13 and on May 13 after buying at least 79 items, his rating is still (209)... what's up with that? There are other multiple purchasers, but this one stands out as odd. I can't imagine buying any records at his prices, but someone bought one for $750 - left negative feedback, claiming the record was a repro and eBay backed this seller. The feedback number isn't strange if he did indeed buy only from this gentleman. You can but 5000 items, if they're all from the same buyer/seller it counts your feedback score as one. However, not buying or selling anything to or from anyone else in that time period IS very very suspicious. I would also think that if someone is going to try and move an item for four or five figures they could have some better pictures, at least a description of the particular item, and some sort of grading. I mean even I could scan some photos of labels out of a book and go on eBay claiming to sell rare records. Don Don Dellmann don.dellm...@prodigy.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/don_dellmann/ http://www.youtube.com/user/CreamCityTraction Owner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vintageHO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scenery ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 143
Why would it strike horror? I would think that would be a very prestigious and important job for music preservation… On May 15, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Thomas Edison wrote: I know this will strike horror in some collectors,. However when LOC moved the archives from D.C. To Culpepper, I applied for a job as an audio expert there, and did make it the first interview, stage which I thought was quite an accomplishment. I am still a consultant. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Todd Augsburger
I agree that I also see no evidence of a kindly, merciful being which oversaw Nature and the world, however no one really knows. However, that's not the point, ALS is just an awful disease, I knew someone who had it - anything that gives someone with this hope and comfort or gives some kind of peace amongst the ravages of the horrible and inevitable fate ALS brings should be encouraged and embraces. We can all only hope that we are never faced with that kind of debilitating disease. It's sad to see anyone go through that. If you want to help out or do something to honor him I would suggest donating to the Les Turner foundation - they seem to be working hard to find a cure and to better treat ALS. They used to do a huge record sale in the Chicago area called the Mammoth Music Mart years back as a fund raiser, I believe them to be a very worthwhile organization. http://www.lesturnerals.org/~lesturne/make-a-difference/donate-now/ Bill On May 10, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Dan Kj wrote: I'm about at Edison's level of faith, less his occasional (and very real) need to protect his businesses by pandering to the religious crowd when reporters pushed him on the God subject. He saw no evidence of a kindly, merciful being which oversaw Nature and the world. (Think of Mina trying to get him to attend a service to thank God for victory in Cuba. Shouldn't we also thank God for the yellow fever which killed our soldiers?, he asked. ) I see Life as an opportunity obligation to get through our years without being nasty, cruel, thoughtless, greedy, etc - but we WILL be those things at some point, and can only try to make up for that maybe leave the world a tiny bit better than when we entered. Being decent doesn't require a mythical father-figure floating in the sky. - Original Message - From: Stephen Madara bowl...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Todd Augsburger If you have a chance read his blog where he discusses his struggles and faith coping with ALS ( Lou Gehrig's Disease ). ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
Yes, you have been taken, you should sell your C-1 to me for $1200 dollars and consider yourself lucky as it does not have nearly the paint job of that GEM ;-) Bill On Apr 11, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Bruce Mercer wrote: UH-OH, have I been taken? I was told that my Edison C-1 is one of six known. According to the known serial numbers mine is the latest making it the last (accounted for) Diamond Disc machine. I sincerely hope that is not the case. Bruce - Original Message - From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? My response as to how does he know it's factory was tongue in cheek. When I hear stuff like that or only 3 know to exist I always ask or think who told you that. I remember hearing only three of these phongraphs exist. I smiled and thought well I have one, that makes 4. I didn't say it tho' Mike Oldcranky ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
