Re: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine
Hello Chuck: Yes, this is an ICS Language Edison machine. The speed control on the Standard was removed with the end of the Model A *except* for the ICS machines which played at 90 RPM so the records would play for a longer time at the expense of sound quality. You had to dial the speed down for the ICS record so voice would not sound too high in pitch. I would immediately tell the museum they are destroying their 2 minute wax records by playing them with the Model H Reproducer. The increase in sound quality with the correct Model C that has been serviced by someone like Steve Medved would astound them. As for the lift lever, I would think that it was removed at some point. A close look might reveal the screw hole where the lever would have been mounted. The repeat bar for the ICS was so that phrases could be played over and over and is a plus feature but not much use for a normal record. I would urge the museum to seek a professional look at the machine. If it were close to me I would do it for free and find them a lift lever or lift pin, whichever it needed. Sent them my email address if they have any interest in making it right. If this serial number of the machine is above 245000 then you should find the motor on springs rather than being snug up against the bedplate with rubber dampers and it will be a Model B Standard. Best wishes, Al -Original Message- From: chuck richards To: phono-l Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 6:08 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine Recently I saw a working Edison Standard (model B I think) machine at the Dewitt County Museum. It has a few odd things about it: It has a carriage that has no lift lever. This carriage has teeth on the bottom which engage a spring-loaded rack that's bolted to the carriage-rest. When the rack is moved via its button, the carriage lifts and drops back a couple of grooves. Is this the language-teaching setup? What's odd about it is that there's no way to rest the carriage in the up position, which makes changing records a real hassle. This machine has an end gate, and it also has 2/4 gearing although I can't get it to budge so far out of the 2M gearing. It only has a model H reproducer, which the museum is using to play Gold Moulded 2M records! This machine has the funky early "half-a-gearcase-cover" So, is this carriage perhaps just missing its left lever? Seems to me that the rack assembly might need to be removed from the carriage rest, and maybe a different carriage substituted, (one that has a lift lever or the button). I am quite familiar with the Standard model D, but those earlier ones such as this one the museum has, are sort of new to me. It has the speed adjustment on the top of the bedplate. Any ideas about what the best thing to do might be to get that carriage so that it can at least rest in the up position? Thanks, Chuck Richards $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine
I also have an Edison ICS phonograph (has white International Correspondence School nameplate on the front). It's an Edison Standard Model C. It has the toothed lever for moving the reproducer back a few grooves. It also has a lift lever on the left side, held onto the carriage with a screw. If you do a Google search for "ICS Edison Phonograph" you'll see number of Edison Standards with the levers on either the left or right side. Jim Nichol On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:44 PM, David Dazer wrote: > Sounds like an ICS language machine. I have a couple of them. > Dave > > > > From: chuck richards > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:52 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine > > > Recently I saw a working Edison Standard (model B I think) > machine at the Dewitt County Museum. > > It has a few odd things about it: > > It has a carriage that has no lift lever. > This carriage has teeth on the bottom which engage a > spring-loaded rack that's bolted to the carriage-rest. > When the rack is moved via its button, the carriage > lifts and drops back a couple of grooves. > > Is this the language-teaching setup? > > What's odd about it is that there's no way to rest the > carriage in the up position, which makes changing records > a real hassle. > > This machine has an end gate, and it also has 2/4 gearing > although I can't get it to budge so far out of the 2M > gearing. > > It only has a model H reproducer, which the museum is > using to play Gold Moulded 2M records! > > This machine has the funky early "half-a-gearcase-cover" > > So, is this carriage perhaps just missing its left lever? > > Seems to me that the rack assembly might need to be > removed from the carriage rest, and maybe a different > carriage substituted, (one that has a lift lever > or the button). > > I am quite familiar with the Standard model D, but > those earlier ones such as this one the museum has, > are sort of new to me. > > It has the speed adjustment on the top of the bedplate. > > Any ideas about what the best thing to do might be > to get that carriage so that it can at least rest in > the up position? > > Thanks, Chuck Richards > > > > > $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x > faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See > http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine
Sounds like an ICS language machine. I have a couple of them. Dave From: chuck richards To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine Recently I saw a working Edison Standard (model B I think) machine at the Dewitt County Museum. It has a few odd things about it: It has a carriage that has no lift lever. This carriage has teeth on the bottom which engage a spring-loaded rack that's bolted to the carriage-rest. When the rack is moved via its button, the carriage lifts and drops back a couple of grooves. Is this the language-teaching setup? What's odd about it is that there's no way to rest the carriage in the up position, which makes changing records a real hassle. This machine has an end gate, and it also has 2/4 gearing although I can't get it to budge so far out of the 2M gearing. It only has a model H reproducer, which the museum is using to play Gold Moulded 2M records! This machine has the funky early "half-a-gearcase-cover" So, is this carriage perhaps just missing its left lever? Seems to me that the rack assembly might need to be removed from the carriage rest, and maybe a different carriage substituted, (one that has a lift lever or the button). I am quite familiar with the Standard model D, but those earlier ones such as this one the museum has, are sort of new to me. It has the speed adjustment on the top of the bedplate. Any ideas about what the best thing to do might be to get that carriage so that it can at least rest in the up position? Thanks, Chuck Richards $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine
Recently I saw a working Edison Standard (model B I think) machine at the Dewitt County Museum. It has a few odd things about it: It has a carriage that has no lift lever. This carriage has teeth on the bottom which engage a spring-loaded rack that's bolted to the carriage-rest. When the rack is moved via its button, the carriage lifts and drops back a couple of grooves. Is this the language-teaching setup? What's odd about it is that there's no way to rest the carriage in the up position, which makes changing records a real hassle. This machine has an end gate, and it also has 2/4 gearing although I can't get it to budge so far out of the 2M gearing. It only has a model H reproducer, which the museum is using to play Gold Moulded 2M records! This machine has the funky early "half-a-gearcase-cover" So, is this carriage perhaps just missing its left lever? Seems to me that the rack assembly might need to be removed from the carriage rest, and maybe a different carriage substituted, (one that has a lift lever or the button). I am quite familiar with the Standard model D, but those earlier ones such as this one the museum has, are sort of new to me. It has the speed adjustment on the top of the bedplate. Any ideas about what the best thing to do might be to get that carriage so that it can at least rest in the up position? Thanks, Chuck Richards $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
