Re: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone
Thank you very much. I do collaborate with the an university. Gabriel Mensaje original De: lhera...@bu.edu Fecha: 15/03/2010 1:54 Para: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Asunto: Re: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone VWR does have international offices. Here's the one for Spain: http://es.vwr.com/app/Home Do you know anyone in a school lab who might be able to order it, if it is avaliable in Europe? They could also ask for a small sample. I've not confirmed it but I have been told that it is basically Trisodium phosphate which is readily available here in the USA as TSP, a cleaner/etchant for painted walls. You only need enough labtone to make the water feel slippery and I imagine the TSP would be the same. Check out some heavy duty painted wall cleaners. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Gabriel Marro Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 4:34 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone Can anyone help me to find where to buy Labtone cleaner? I have read about cleaning wax cylinders using labtone and want to buy a bottle, but in wvrlabshop.com there are no options for europeans, nor I can send a question if not selecting USA or Canada as my country. I live in Spain and want to know how can I buy it from here. Do you know any shop that send overseas? Thanks in advance, Gabriel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone
Can anyone help me to find where to buy Labtone cleaner? I have read about cleaning wax cylinders using labtone and want to buy a bottle, but in wvrlabshop.com there are no options for europeans, nor I can send a question if not selecting USA or Canada as my country. I live in Spain and want to know how can I buy it from here. Do you know any shop that send overseas? Thanks in advance, Gabriel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone
It is not exportable and is hard to get in this country unless you can look like a commercial user. Try Alconox which is at least available from some sources. If that fails the soap used for hand brush washing beer glasses will do just fine, and its much cheaper. You can get it from your local bar or from the supply store where they buy it. Gabriel Marro wrote: Can anyone help me to find where to buy Labtone cleaner? I have read about cleaning wax cylinders using labtone and want to buy a bottle, but in wvrlabshop.com there are no options for europeans, nor I can send a question if not selecting USA or Canada as my country. I live in Spain and want to know how can I buy it from here. Do you know any shop that send overseas? Thanks in advance, Gabriel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone
Thank you very much. I have seen different products from Alcanox for laboratory cleaning: LIQUI-NOX: phosphate-free to eliminate phosphate interference ALCOTABS: free rinsing for difficult pipette cleaning CITRANOX: enhanced acid for safer cleaning of trace metal residues SOLUJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free, liquid, alkaline detergent for laboratory washers TERGAJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free, powdered, alkaline detergent for laboratory washers CITRAJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free. liquid, acid rinse and trace metal cleaner for lab washers do you know wich one is good for wax cylinders? I didn't know the hand brush washing beer glasses they use in my local bar is different from the soap I use at home for my own beer glasses. Gabriel. El 14/03/2010, a las 22:21, Rich escribió: It is not exportable and is hard to get in this country unless you can look like a commercial user. Try Alconox which is at least available from some sources. If that fails the soap used for hand brush washing beer glasses will do just fine, and its much cheaper. You can get it from your local bar or from the supply store where they buy it. Gabriel Marro wrote: Can anyone help me to find where to buy Labtone cleaner? I have read about cleaning wax cylinders using labtone and want to buy a bottle, but in wvrlabshop.com there are no options for europeans, nor I can send a question if not selecting USA or Canada as my country. I live in Spain and want to know how can I buy it from here. Do you know any shop that send overseas? Thanks in advance, Gabriel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone
Gabriel, Labtone is a powder that you mix with distilled water you can order it from V W R International. I just googled them and they have shipping points all over the world. Item # is R3501-44/8vwr-that is the number for 8lbs and if you order that amount you will have enough for most of your life. I have given some away cleaned over a 1000 cylinders and 2000 records and still have a couple of pounds left Abe Feder On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Gabriel Marro gabrielma...@telefonica.netwrote: Can anyone help me to find where to buy Labtone cleaner? I have read about cleaning wax cylinders using labtone and want to buy a bottle, but in wvrlabshop.com there are no options for europeans, nor I can send a question if not selecting USA or Canada as my country. I live in Spain and want to know how can I buy it from here. Do you know any shop that send overseas? Thanks in advance, Gabriel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone
I have used the plain Alconox Detergent powder. The commercial beer glass soap/cleaner for hand washing is as potent as the Alconox or labtone and you miss the pleasure of buying a case of the stuff. Actually, the beer glass cleaner will take lipstick off of glassware by just dipping and the other 2 will not really cut into it as fast. I have used all 3 of them and they all work. Just remember this, if washing 4 min wax any temperature differential between record and water will result in record disassembly. The records to be washed and the water for wash and rinse have to all be at the same temperature, exactly. And you will still have a few fall apart. Gabriel Marro wrote: Thank you very much. I have seen different products from Alcanox for laboratory cleaning: LIQUI-NOX: phosphate-free to eliminate phosphate interference ALCOTABS: free rinsing for difficult pipette cleaning CITRANOX: enhanced acid for safer cleaning of trace metal residues SOLUJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free, liquid, alkaline detergent for laboratory washers TERGAJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free, powdered, alkaline detergent for laboratory washers CITRAJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free. liquid, acid rinse and trace metal cleaner for lab washers do you know wich one is good for wax cylinders? I didn't know the hand brush washing beer glasses they use in my local bar is different from the soap I use at home for my own beer glasses. Gabriel. El 14/03/2010, a las 22:21, Rich escribió: It is not exportable and is hard to get in this country unless you can look like a commercial user. Try Alconox which is at least available from some sources. If that fails the soap used for hand brush washing beer glasses will do just fine, and its much cheaper. You can get it from your local bar or from the supply store where they buy it. Gabriel Marro wrote: Can anyone help me to find where to buy Labtone cleaner? I have read about cleaning wax cylinders using labtone and want to buy a bottle, but in wvrlabshop.com there are no options for europeans, nor I can send a question if not selecting USA or Canada as my country. I live in Spain and want to know how can I buy it from here. Do you know any shop that send overseas? Thanks in advance, Gabriel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone
Hi All, The Library of Congress did test a number of other products including Alconox Detergent powder and settled on Labtone it has a lower possible residue factor-complete chemical analysis is available through V W R Abe On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: I have used the plain Alconox Detergent powder. The commercial beer glass soap/cleaner for hand washing is as potent as the Alconox or labtone and you miss the pleasure of buying a case of the stuff. Actually, the beer glass cleaner will take lipstick off of glassware by just dipping and the other 2 will not really cut into it as fast. I have used all 3 of them and they all work. Just remember this, if washing 4 min wax any temperature differential between record and water will result in record disassembly. The records to be washed and the water for wash and rinse have to all be at the same temperature, exactly. And you will still have a few fall apart. Gabriel Marro wrote: Thank you very much. I have seen different products from Alcanox for laboratory cleaning: LIQUI-NOX: phosphate-free to eliminate phosphate interference ALCOTABS: free rinsing for difficult pipette cleaning CITRANOX: enhanced acid for safer cleaning of trace metal residues SOLUJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free, liquid, alkaline detergent for laboratory washers TERGAJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free, powdered, alkaline detergent for laboratory washers CITRAJET: low-foaming, phosphate-free. liquid, acid rinse and trace metal cleaner for lab washers do you know wich one is good for wax cylinders? I didn't know the hand brush washing beer glasses they use in my local bar is different from the soap I use at home for my own beer glasses. Gabriel. El 14/03/2010, a las 22:21, Rich escribió: It is not exportable and is hard to get in this country unless you can look like a commercial user. Try Alconox which is at least available from some sources. If that fails the soap used for hand brush washing beer glasses will do just fine, and its much cheaper. You can get it from your local bar or from the supply store where they buy it. Gabriel Marro wrote: Can anyone help me to find where to buy Labtone cleaner? I have read about cleaning wax cylinders using labtone and want to buy a bottle, but in wvrlabshop.com there are no options for europeans, nor I can send a question if not selecting USA or Canada as my country. I live in Spain and want to know how can I buy it from here. Do you know any shop that send overseas? Thanks in advance, Gabriel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone
VWR does have international offices. Here's the one for Spain: http://es.vwr.com/app/Home Do you know anyone in a school lab who might be able to order it, if it is avaliable in Europe? They could also ask for a small sample. I've not confirmed it but I have been told that it is basically Trisodium phosphate which is readily available here in the USA as TSP, a cleaner/etchant for painted walls. You only need enough labtone to make the water feel slippery and I imagine the TSP would be the same. Check out some heavy duty painted wall cleaners. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Gabriel Marro Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 4:34 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Where to buy Labtone Can anyone help me to find where to buy Labtone cleaner? I have read about cleaning wax cylinders using labtone and want to buy a bottle, but in wvrlabshop.com there are no options for europeans, nor I can send a question if not selecting USA or Canada as my country. I live in Spain and want to know how can I buy it from here. Do you know any shop that send overseas? Thanks in advance, Gabriel. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
