Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted

[john robles]

Sorry, thought that was a private email.





 From: John Robles 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
 

I would think around 50.00. I haven't bought one in awhile.  Last time I paid 
45, a few years ago.
Thanks
J

> On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Steven Medved  wrote:
> 
> What does the carrige sell for?  I believe I have an extra.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
>> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:37:21 -0700
>> From: john9...@pacbell.net
>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
>> 
>> Great info Steve, as always! You are a credit to this group.
>> If anyone has a nice spare Fireside top mount carriage, I am in the market.
>> Thanks
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ____
>> From: Steven Medved 
>> To: Antique Phonograph List  
>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 10:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
>> 
>> 
>> The chips can be repaired, normally the chips are in the front and back 
>> where people tried to pry the reproducer out of the carriage.
>> 
>> JB weld or a similar epoxy, I use steel putty, returns the top shape to 
>> round and a chrome paint makes it match a bit better.  I use a large 
>> carriage broken in half courtesy of UPS to as a jig to fix the chips.  You 
>> put Saran Wrap on the carriage so the epoxy will not stick to the carriage 
>> and put the Saran Wrap on the top of the epoxy to smooth the repair.  
>> 
>> This is something an average person can do, I am not that dexterous. With 
>> Swiss files you can match the rim on the late dome tops and smooth the area 
>> to match on the flat top.  I am certain John could match the missing letters 
>> and sign his name on the side, but I am not that good.
>> 
>> Ron Sitko is having new tops made, he estimates around $75 for each one.  
>> 
>> Some people do not realize the O N R and S all have the same top, the serial 
>> number is the only way you can ID the difference between the O&N and the R&S 
>> tops.  The N-56 has R&S serial numbers as the N-56 was made from R&S tops 
>> when the R&S were obsolete.  
>> 
>> The N-56 appeared around 70,000 in the O&N serial numbers and around 31,000 
>> in the R&S serial numbers.
>> 
>> An unscrupulous seller recently took an R top and this allowed him to sell a 
>> cobbled O for $750.00.  I wonder how these money grubbers sleep, very well 
>> on their mattress stuffed with money I guess.
>> 
>> Using micarta and a hammer frozen tops come out of the carriage easily and 
>> without damage.  You want to remove the weight first and tap one side then 
>> the other seeing how far it moves each time by looking at the top of the 
>> top.  
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:06:17 -0700
>>> From: john9...@pacbell.net
>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
>>> 
>>> Hello all
>>> Anybody got a decent top for a model O reproducer? Same top as used on 
>>> models R and S.  I am trying to improve on the O that I recently obtained, 
>>> and the top has two chips in it.
>>> Thanks
>>> John
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted

[john robles]

Well now that I threw my opinion on price far and wide, what do the rest of you 
think? Is $50 a fair price for a Fireside top mount carriage?
John Robles





 From: Steven Medved 
To: Antique Phonograph List  
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
 

What does the carrige sell for?  I believe I have an extra.



Steve


> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:37:21 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
> 
> Great info Steve, as always! You are a credit to this group.
> If anyone has a nice spare Fireside top mount carriage, I am in the market.
> Thanks
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Steven Medved 
> To: Antique Phonograph List  
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
> 
> 
> The chips can be repaired, normally the chips are in the front and back where 
> people tried to pry the reproducer out of the carriage.
> 
> JB weld or a similar epoxy, I use steel putty, returns the top shape to round 
> and a chrome paint makes it match a bit better.  I use a large carriage 
> broken in half courtesy of UPS to as a jig to fix the chips.  You put Saran 
> Wrap on the carriage so the epoxy will not stick to the carriage and put the 
> Saran Wrap on the top of the epoxy to smooth the repair.  
> 
> This is something an average person can do, I am not that dexterous. With 
> Swiss files you can match the rim on the late dome tops and smooth the area 
> to match on the flat top.  I am certain John could match the missing letters 
> and sign his name on the side, but I am not that good.
> 
> Ron Sitko is having new tops made, he estimates around $75 for each one.  
> 
> Some people do not realize the O N R and S all have the same top, the serial 
> number is the only way you can ID the difference between the O&N and the R&S 
> tops.  The N-56 has R&S serial numbers as the N-56 was made from R&S tops 
> when the R&S were obsolete.  
> 
> The N-56 appeared around 70,000 in the O&N serial numbers and around 31,000 
> in the R&S serial numbers.
> 
> An unscrupulous seller recently took an R top and this allowed him to sell a 
> cobbled O for $750.00.  I wonder how these money grubbers sleep, very well on 
> their mattress stuffed with money I guess.
> 
> Using micarta and a hammer frozen tops come out of the carriage easily and 
> without damage.  You want to remove the weight first and tap one side then 
> the other seeing how far it moves each time by looking at the top of the top. 
>  
> 
> Steve
> 
> > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:06:17 -0700
> > From: john9...@pacbell.net
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
> > 
> > Hello all
> > Anybody got a decent top for a model O reproducer? Same top as used on 
> > models R and S.  I am trying to improve on the O that I recently obtained, 
> > and the top has two chips in it.
> > Thanks
> > John
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted

[John Robles]

I would think around 50.00. I haven't bought one in awhile.  Last time I paid 
45, a few years ago.
Thanks
J

> On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Steven Medved  wrote:
> 
> What does the carrige sell for?  I believe I have an extra.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
>> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:37:21 -0700
>> From: john9...@pacbell.net
>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
>> 
>> Great info Steve, as always! You are a credit to this group.
>> If anyone has a nice spare Fireside top mount carriage, I am in the market.
>> Thanks
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ____
>> From: Steven Medved 
>> To: Antique Phonograph List  
>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 10:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
>> 
>> 
>> The chips can be repaired, normally the chips are in the front and back 
>> where people tried to pry the reproducer out of the carriage.
>> 
>> JB weld or a similar epoxy, I use steel putty, returns the top shape to 
>> round and a chrome paint makes it match a bit better.  I use a large 
>> carriage broken in half courtesy of UPS to as a jig to fix the chips.  You 
>> put Saran Wrap on the carriage so the epoxy will not stick to the carriage 
>> and put the Saran Wrap on the top of the epoxy to smooth the repair.  
>> 
>> This is something an average person can do, I am not that dexterous. With 
>> Swiss files you can match the rim on the late dome tops and smooth the area 
>> to match on the flat top.  I am certain John could match the missing letters 
>> and sign his name on the side, but I am not that good.
>> 
>> Ron Sitko is having new tops made, he estimates around $75 for each one.  
>> 
>> Some people do not realize the O N R and S all have the same top, the serial 
>> number is the only way you can ID the difference between the O&N and the R&S 
>> tops.  The N-56 has R&S serial numbers as the N-56 was made from R&S tops 
>> when the R&S were obsolete.  
>> 
>> The N-56 appeared around 70,000 in the O&N serial numbers and around 31,000 
>> in the R&S serial numbers.
>> 
>> An unscrupulous seller recently took an R top and this allowed him to sell a 
>> cobbled O for $750.00.  I wonder how these money grubbers sleep, very well 
>> on their mattress stuffed with money I guess.
>> 
>> Using micarta and a hammer frozen tops come out of the carriage easily and 
>> without damage.  You want to remove the weight first and tap one side then 
>> the other seeing how far it moves each time by looking at the top of the 
>> top.  
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:06:17 -0700
>>> From: john9...@pacbell.net
>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
>>> 
>>> Hello all
>>> Anybody got a decent top for a model O reproducer? Same top as used on 
>>> models R and S.  I am trying to improve on the O that I recently obtained, 
>>> and the top has two chips in it.
>>> Thanks
>>> John
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted

[Steven Medved]

What does the carrige sell for?  I believe I have an extra.

 

Steve
 

> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:37:21 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
> 
> Great info Steve, as always! You are a credit to this group.
> If anyone has a nice spare Fireside top mount carriage, I am in the market.
> Thanks
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Steven Medved 
> To: Antique Phonograph List  
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
> 
> 
> The chips can be repaired, normally the chips are in the front and back where 
> people tried to pry the reproducer out of the carriage.
> 
> JB weld or a similar epoxy, I use steel putty, returns the top shape to round 
> and a chrome paint makes it match a bit better.  I use a large carriage 
> broken in half courtesy of UPS to as a jig to fix the chips.  You put Saran 
> Wrap on the carriage so the epoxy will not stick to the carriage and put the 
> Saran Wrap on the top of the epoxy to smooth the repair.  
> 
> This is something an average person can do, I am not that dexterous. With 
> Swiss files you can match the rim on the late dome tops and smooth the area 
> to match on the flat top.  I am certain John could match the missing letters 
> and sign his name on the side, but I am not that good.
> 
> Ron Sitko is having new tops made, he estimates around $75 for each one.  
> 
> Some people do not realize the O N R and S all have the same top, the serial 
> number is the only way you can ID the difference between the O&N and the R&S 
> tops.  The N-56 has R&S serial numbers as the N-56 was made from R&S tops 
> when the R&S were obsolete.  
> 
> The N-56 appeared around 70,000 in the O&N serial numbers and around 31,000 
> in the R&S serial numbers.
> 
> An unscrupulous seller recently took an R top and this allowed him to sell a 
> cobbled O for $750.00.  I wonder how these money grubbers sleep, very well on 
> their mattress stuffed with money I guess.
> 
> Using micarta and a hammer frozen tops come out of the carriage easily and 
> without damage.  You want to remove the weight first and tap one side then 
> the other seeing how far it moves each time by looking at the top of the top. 
>  
> 
> Steve
> 
> > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:06:17 -0700
> > From: john9...@pacbell.net
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
> > 
> > Hello all
> > Anybody got a decent top for a model O reproducer? Same top as used on 
> > models R and S.  I am trying to improve on the O that I recently obtained, 
> > and the top has two chips in it.
> > Thanks
> > John
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted

[john robles]

Great info Steve, as always! You are a credit to this group.
If anyone has a nice spare Fireside top mount carriage, I am in the market.
Thanks
John





 From: Steven Medved 
To: Antique Phonograph List  
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
 

The chips can be repaired, normally the chips are in the front and back where 
people tried to pry the reproducer out of the carriage.

JB weld or a similar epoxy, I use steel putty, returns the top shape to round 
and a chrome paint makes it match a bit better.  I use a large carriage broken 
in half courtesy of UPS to as a jig to fix the chips.  You put Saran Wrap on 
the carriage so the epoxy will not stick to the carriage and put the Saran Wrap 
on the top of the epoxy to smooth the repair.  

This is something an average person can do, I am not that dexterous. With Swiss 
files you can match the rim on the late dome tops and smooth the area to match 
on the flat top.  I am certain John could match the missing letters and sign 
his name on the side, but I am not that good.

Ron Sitko is having new tops made, he estimates around $75 for each one.  

Some people do not realize the O N R and S all have the same top, the serial 
number is the only way you can ID the difference between the O&N and the R&S 
tops.  The N-56 has R&S serial numbers as the N-56 was made from R&S tops when 
the R&S were obsolete.  

The N-56 appeared around 70,000 in the O&N serial numbers and around 31,000 in 
the R&S serial numbers.

An unscrupulous seller recently took an R top and this allowed him to sell a 
cobbled O for $750.00.  I wonder how these money grubbers sleep, very well on 
their mattress stuffed with money I guess.

Using micarta and a hammer frozen tops come out of the carriage easily and 
without damage.  You want to remove the weight first and tap one side then the 
other seeing how far it moves each time by looking at the top of the top.  

Steve

> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:06:17 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
> 
> Hello all
> Anybody got a decent top for a model O reproducer? Same top as used on models 
> R and S.  I am trying to improve on the O that I recently obtained, and the 
> top has two chips in it.
> Thanks
> John
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted

[Steven Medved]

The chips can be repaired, normally the chips are in the front and back where 
people tried to pry the reproducer out of the carriage.
 
JB weld or a similar epoxy, I use steel putty, returns the top shape to round 
and a chrome paint makes it match a bit better.  I use a large carriage broken 
in half courtesy of UPS to as a jig to fix the chips.  You put Saran Wrap on 
the carriage so the epoxy will not stick to the carriage and put the Saran Wrap 
on the top of the epoxy to smooth the repair.  
 
This is something an average person can do, I am not that dexterous. With Swiss 
files you can match the rim on the late dome tops and smooth the area to match 
on the flat top.  I am certain John could match the missing letters and sign 
his name on the side, but I am not that good.
 
Ron Sitko is having new tops made, he estimates around $75 for each one.  
 
Some people do not realize the O N R and S all have the same top, the serial 
number is the only way you can ID the difference between the O&N and the R&S 
tops.  The N-56 has R&S serial numbers as the N-56 was made from R&S tops when 
the R&S were obsolete.  
 
The N-56 appeared around 70,000 in the O&N serial numbers and around 31,000 in 
the R&S serial numbers.
 
An unscrupulous seller recently took an R top and this allowed him to sell a 
cobbled O for $750.00.  I wonder how these money grubbers sleep, very well on 
their mattress stuffed with money I guess.
 
Using micarta and a hammer frozen tops come out of the carriage easily and 
without damage.  You want to remove the weight first and tap one side then the 
other seeing how far it moves each time by looking at the top of the top.  
 
Steve
 
> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:06:17 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
> 
> Hello all
> Anybody got a decent top for a model O reproducer? Same top as used on models 
> R and S.  I am trying to improve on the O that I recently obtained, and the 
> top has two chips in it.
> Thanks
> John
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted

[john robles]

PS I would be willing to have one of the reproduction Model O tops also.
Thanks
John





 From: john robles 
To: phonolist  
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 4:06 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer top wanted
 

Hello all
Anybody got a decent top for a model O reproducer? Same top as used on models R 
and S.  I am trying to improve on the O that I recently obtained, and the top 
has two chips in it.
Thanks
John
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

[Vinyl Visions]

Thanks - I'll ask Charley - should have thought of him or Tim Fabrizio.

> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> From: zonophone2...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 04:54:20 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> 
> HI ALL
> CHARLEY HUMMEL HAD ONE A FEW YEARS AGO
> YOU MAY ASK HIM OR TIM OR PAUL
> GOOD LUCK
> ZONO
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vinyl Visions 
> To: phono-l 
> Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2011 10:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do you have a pic of your "new" Pathe? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On the subject of Pathe - does anyone have any idea of what a Pathe 
> advertising 
> 
> plaster rooster might be worth? I found one recently, but haven't been able 
> to 
> 
> convince the owner to part with it...  It is a display in an old store and no 
> 
> one knows what it is, since it's painted black. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700
> 
> > From: john9...@pacbell.net
> 
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> 
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> 
> > 
> 
> > Hello All
> 
> > I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
> 
> received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member 
> who 
> 
> responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and blackened, 
> and 
> 
> since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of the image. I 
> found 
> 
> a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the story is written on 
> the 
> 
> before and after image at this link:
> 
> > http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
> 
> > Thanks
> 
> > John Robles
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[Vinyl Visions]

Nice machine, looks to be in good condition - I "need" a Pathe disc machine...

> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 19:43:17 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> 
> It's worth $20 but I'll give you $25 :-)
> Pics are available at this link:
> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone/
> Does anyone else on the board have a Pathephone?
> Thanks
> John
> 
> --- On Sat, 4/16/11, Vinyl Visions  wrote:
> 
> From: Vinyl Visions 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Saturday, April 16, 2011, 7:00 PM
> 
> 
> Do you have a pic of your "new" Pathe? 
> 
> 
> On the subject of Pathe - does anyone have any idea of what a Pathe 
> advertising plaster rooster might be worth? I found one recently, but haven't 
> been able to convince the owner to part with it...  It is a display in an old 
> store and no one knows what it is, since it's painted black. 
> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700
> > From: john9...@pacbell.net
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> > 
> > Hello All
> > I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
> > received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member 
> > who responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and 
> > blackened, and since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of 
> > the image. I found a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the 
> > story is written on the before and after image at this link:
> > http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
> > Thanks
> > John Robles
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[zonophone2006]

HI ALL
CHARLEY HUMMEL HAD ONE A FEW YEARS AGO
YOU MAY ASK HIM OR TIM OR PAUL
GOOD LUCK
ZONO

 

 


 

 

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From: Vinyl Visions 
To: phono-l 
Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2011 10:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork




Do you have a pic of your "new" Pathe? 





On the subject of Pathe - does anyone have any idea of what a Pathe advertising 

plaster rooster might be worth? I found one recently, but haven't been able to 

convince the owner to part with it...  It is a display in an old store and no 

one knows what it is, since it's painted black. 





> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700

> From: john9...@pacbell.net

> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org

> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

> 

> Hello All

> I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 

received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member who 

responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and blackened, 
and 

since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of the image. I found 

a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the story is written on the 

before and after image at this link:

> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/

> Thanks

> John Robles

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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

[Brad abell]

Hi-  About 14 years ago a well-known record dealer visited my house and 
purchased many nice records. He also saw my newly acquired Pathe Rooster with a 
piece of the base broken (I had the piece) He offered $500 for it- I had paid 
substantially less just a couple weeks earlier and was pleased to make the 
sale, knowing he had much more appreciation for it then I did.  I felt it was a 
fair price at the time and for the condition. I have no clue if they are worth 
more now-- but they are as rare as rooster's teeth.  :)

Brad






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Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2011 10:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork



o you have a pic of your "new" Pathe? 

n the subject of Pathe - does anyone have any idea of what a Pathe advertising 
laster rooster might be worth? I found one recently, but haven't been able to 
onvince the owner to part with it...  It is a display in an old store and no 
ne knows what it is, since it's painted black. 

 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
 
 Hello All
 I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
eceived a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member who 
esponded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and blackened, and 
ince it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of the image. I found 
 decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the story is written on the 
efore and after image at this link:
 http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
 Thanks
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

[john robles]

It's worth $20 but I'll give you $25 :-)
Pics are available at this link:
http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone/
Does anyone else on the board have a Pathephone?
Thanks
John

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Date: Saturday, April 16, 2011, 7:00 PM


Do you have a pic of your "new" Pathe? 


On the subject of Pathe - does anyone have any idea of what a Pathe advertising 
plaster rooster might be worth? I found one recently, but haven't been able to 
convince the owner to part with it...  It is a display in an old store and no 
one knows what it is, since it's painted black. 


> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> 
> Hello All
> I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
> received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member 
> who responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and 
> blackened, and since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of 
> the image. I found a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the 
> story is written on the before and after image at this link:
> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
> Thanks
> John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

[john robles]

Thanks Curt
I love to figure out ideas to enhance the phono collecting bug!

--- On Sat, 4/16/11, Vinyl Visions  wrote:

From: Vinyl Visions 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Saturday, April 16, 2011, 6:55 PM


Hi John,


That looks good... I did the same thing several years ago on a backmount 
Zonophone machine that had the correct reproducer, but was missing the needle 
bar. I used an Exhibition reproducer which fit perfectly, then scanned the 
front of the Zonophone reproducer, printed it out and put a paper disc in the 
Exhibition behind the mica. It looks like a Zonophone reproducer, until I find 
the correct needle bar assembly to rebuild the original Zono...


Yours really turned out great.


Curt 


> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> 
> Hello All
> I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
> received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member 
> who responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and 
> blackened, and since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of 
> the image. I found a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the 
> story is written on the before and after image at this link:
> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
> Thanks
> John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

[Vinyl Visions]

Do you have a pic of your "new" Pathe? 


On the subject of Pathe - does anyone have any idea of what a Pathe advertising 
plaster rooster might be worth? I found one recently, but haven't been able to 
convince the owner to part with it...  It is a display in an old store and no 
one knows what it is, since it's painted black. 


> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> 
> Hello All
> I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
> received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member 
> who responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and 
> blackened, and since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of 
> the image. I found a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the 
> story is written on the before and after image at this link:
> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
> Thanks
> John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

[Vinyl Visions]

Hi John,


That looks good... I did the same thing several years ago on a backmount 
Zonophone machine that had the correct reproducer, but was missing the needle 
bar. I used an Exhibition reproducer which fit perfectly, then scanned the 
front of the Zonophone reproducer, printed it out and put a paper disc in the 
Exhibition behind the mica. It looks like a Zonophone reproducer, until I find 
the correct needle bar assembly to rebuild the original Zono...


Yours really turned out great.


Curt 


> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:37:39 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork
> 
> Hello All
> I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
> received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member 
> who responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and 
> blackened, and since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of 
> the image. I found a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the 
> story is written on the before and after image at this link:
> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
> Thanks
> John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

[Barry Kasindorf]

Nice.
-Barry


On 4/16/2011 3:37 PM, john robles wrote:

Hello All
I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member who 
responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and blackened, 
and since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of the image. I 
found a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the story is written 
on the before and after image at this link:
http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
Thanks
John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer??

[Ward Sandstrom]

This is a Edison uncased Model A (drip pan) Gem with a original Edison 
reproducer, The reproducer is fixed to the carrage arm. It is the same one I 
have on my machine. Ward
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To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:58 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer??



Homemade reproducer on this machine??? Anyone know?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160433826782&ssPageName=A
DME:B:SS:US:1123

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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer??

[harvey kravitz]

This looks like the early Gem reproducer that is integral with the carriage. I 
could be wrong.
Harvey Kravitz






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Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 5:58:41 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer??

Homemade reproducer on this machine??? Anyone know?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160433826782&ssPageName=A
DME:B:SS:US:1123

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Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer??

[Ron L'Herault]

It looks pretty well done if it is home-made.  It looks like a recorder
though.  I wonder if it is held on with a home-maade ring.  The machine
looks like it has been under water!

Ron L

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Behalf Of Hummel Family
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:59 PM
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Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer??

Homemade reproducer on this machine??? Anyone know?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160433826782&ssPageName=A
DME:B:SS:US:1123

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Re: [Phono-L] reproducer identification

[dan s]

thank you gentlemen for your help on this matter it is greatly appreciated.
i did find an original orthophonic reproducer and will hopefully have it by
mon. or tue. and by that time i will hopefully(?) have finished putting it
all back together. as i have completely stripped it down and sanded every
piece of wood bare. i am now in the process of restaining it and cleaning,
polishing the rest of the components. the cabinet suffered quite a bit of
water damage due to a major flood we had here in the fifties. which is
probably when the reproducer broke and was replaced by one from the fifties.
i'm looking for a thumbscrew for the pal so i can try to sell it to offset
the cost of the reproducer i bought. so i can say to my wife look honey i
sold something (for a change). thanks again to all.
 best regards
  dan

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD) <
brya...@dshs.wa.gov> wrote:

> The VV 4-3 "Consolette" - I have the second cabinet style of this
> machine - is an orthophonic.  The orthophonic reproducers that were made
> of cast metal are prone to cracks with age, and maybe that is what
> happened to the reproducer on your machine - maybe a previous owner
> replaced it with this one.  I'd track down a correct replacement
> orthophonic reproducer.
> Regards,
> Ron B, Seattle.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
> On Behalf Of dan s
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:01 AM
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer identification
>
>  hello everyone i was wondering if anyone could tell me what the make and
> or
> model of reproducer this is. i bought a victrola orthophonic v v 4-3 and
> this reproducer came with it. judging by the sloppy fit to the tone arm
> i
> would have to guess this is not the original one but i don't know. it is
> in
> need of a thumb screw which is why i would like to know which make it
> is.
> any information would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. thank you
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Re: [Phono-L] reproducer identification

[Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD)]

The VV 4-3 "Consolette" - I have the second cabinet style of this
machine - is an orthophonic.  The orthophonic reproducers that were made
of cast metal are prone to cracks with age, and maybe that is what
happened to the reproducer on your machine - maybe a previous owner
replaced it with this one.  I'd track down a correct replacement
orthophonic reproducer.
Regards, 
Ron B, Seattle. 




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On Behalf Of dan s
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:01 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer identification

hello everyone i was wondering if anyone could tell me what the make and
or
model of reproducer this is. i bought a victrola orthophonic v v 4-3 and
this reproducer came with it. judging by the sloppy fit to the tone arm
i
would have to guess this is not the original one but i don't know. it is
in
need of a thumb screw which is why i would like to know which make it
is.
any information would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. thank you
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Re: [Phono-L] reproducer identification

[john9ten]

I belive that is a reproducer from a PAL portable phonograph from the 50s.
John
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From: dan s 
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:01:01 
To: 
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer identification

hello everyone i was wondering if anyone could tell me what the make and or
model of reproducer this is. i bought a victrola orthophonic v v 4-3 and
this reproducer came with it. judging by the sloppy fit to the tone arm i
would have to guess this is not the original one but i don't know. it is in
need of a thumb screw which is why i would like to know which make it is.
any information would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. thank you
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Re: [Phono-L] reproducer research

[DanKj]

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agnard/collection3/amberola60.htm

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agnard/collection3/amberola80.htm


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From: "Bob" 

To: "Antique Phonograph List" 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] reproducer research


I've never heard of an Amberola 60 or 80, only 30, 50, and 75.  What are4 
they?  Thanks


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Re: [Phono-L] reproducer research

[Bob]

I've never heard of an Amberola 60 or 80, only 30, 50, and 75.  What are4 
they?  Thanks
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From: "Steven Medved" 

To: "Phono-l" 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer research




What I am looking for are the serial numbers from Edison model O 
reproducers, especially those around 5000

and below and any above 6.  I am trying to get an estimate on how many
of the all brass top O's were made.  I am also interested getting the 
serial

number from a heavy weight diamond B.  The extra weight attachment was
made universal so it fit either the diamond D or the heavy weight B.



Below is a short history of the large tops.  If anyone would like any
photos please let me know.  I have included photos of the heavy weight
attachment.  This particular one came from an Amberola 80's diamond D
reproducer.  I only have the photo, but I would be interested in
knowing if anyone knows of any Amberola 60's or 80's.  I know of three
80's, one that was on eBay, one in New Zealand, and one in the US.  If
requested information will be kept confidential.



Steve



Around 3500 was an all brass top, 5080 is iron and brass, 12557 is iron 
and
brass, 13156 is pot metal, around 25000 the N joins in, around 27000 the 
tops
says TAE, 41,000 the early dome and trowel weight joins in, around 47000 
the
late dome joins in, by 50,000 the late dome is predominant, around 65000 
the

last O is made, 73,000 is the highest N I have seen.  Then the A series
starts and A350 is the highest one I know of.



First N was round weight flat top, around 46000 the trowel O makes short
appearance, by 5 the bent weight N appeared, there are five varieties, 
in

March 1913 the N-56 appears.  It has both N and R & S serial numbers.



The large top was strictly O until around 27000.  When the R and S
appeared the large tops were eventually made universal so the large top 
could

be made into an O, bent weight N, R or later and S reproducers.  To
accomplish this three holes were tapped and drilled on the bottom of the 
body
1-64 that way one hole could be used for the large top hinge block or the 
three
screws that held on the shoe adapter that allows the large top to become 
an R

or S.  A hole was drilled and tapped 0-110 for the limit pin of the
O.  If you look at an R or S you will see it is just a large top with a
shoe adapter, remove the shoe adapter and if the top is not swollen it 
will fit

in the large carriage.  The early R and S reproducers have a brass shoe
adapter, the late ones are pot metal.  The O is the only large top that
was not always pot metal, this includes the diamond B and C.  For the
first two years the diamond C had a brass sound tube but the top was 
always pot

metal.  307 is the earliest one I have ever worked on.  By 5 the
large tops have a stable pot metal that some have thought was brass.
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